Hi Kathy: Thanks for your reply. William Young's son is George Edward Young and his birthdate is listed as July 4, 1855. He survived until April 8, 1949 in Chicago. In that 1870 Census I mentioned George is shown as the son. Both William and George appear to be single births, very unusual for the time. I say this because I have another branch of the family, also from Germany about the same period of time, these six brothers all immigrate to Wisconsin, and in the first generation from them some 61 children were born, and I have traced some 2500 descendents from them. Wonderful German name----Stellpflug. Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: kql <lenerz@worldnet.att.net> To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 11:37:12 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Finding ancestral hometowns [was Perl and Borg] Michael Young wrote: > I have only one official document and that is the 1870 census which > shows him in Chicago. Unfortunately that document does not talk about > naturalization. If your gggrandfather had children in 1870, their birth states would be listed on the census. From that and their ages, you may be able to determine the earliest date he was in this country. > Do you know whether there is a site or perhaps several of them that > list church baptismal records for the city of Trier around 1825 or > so? No. Only a tiny fraction of all the records (as opposed to indexes) available for doing genealogical research are available online, and those are mostly American records via Ancestry.com. I did give you a site indexing Familienbücher for the Trier area (below). Familienbücher were largely compiled from church records, so they're the next best thing. The complete Familienbücher aren't online, just the indexes: >> Although the determination of an ancestor's origins is usually >> through using American sources, you can also check out the indexes >> to Trier area Familienbücher online: >> http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/ To search all >> indexes at once, use Google Advanced Search and put the above URL >> in the "Domain" field. > The only other piece of information I have is that Rochester New York > is where his son lists as his(the son's) birth place. Was Rochester an > immigration port, as opposed to New York City? Would a ship come up > the St Lawrence riverway and landed at Rochester? No, they would have landed in NYC then taken one of two routes: 1. a steamer up the Hudson River to near Albany, then the Erie Canal to Rochester 2. train from NYC to Rochester Coincidently, my ancestors lived in Rochester for a few years before migrating to Wisconsin. There were several German Catholic churches there. One of the earlier ones was SS. Peter and Paul. Its church books have been microfilmed and are available through the Family History Library. Two of the three SS. P&P films are on permanent loan at my FHC, where I will be volunteering tomorrow. If you can give me the name of the person born there and date, I can look to see if his baptism is on the film. (Please respond offlist.) The other German Catholic churches in Rochester and founding dates can be found here, along with the film numbers for their records: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymonroe/church1.htm In my research in Rochester, I found few Trierisch families; most Germans there seemed to be from Baden or Bavaria. Also check out the Monroe County USGenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymonroe/ If you've never been to a Family History Center or examined microfilmed records from the Family History Library, you should really look into it. They have millions of reels of microfilmed records from around the world and lend them to local Family History Centers where you can rent and view them. Get more information by checking your local phone book for a Mormon church near you. (They won't proselytize you; most of their volunteers, like me, aren't Mormon.) As much of this discussion has to do with how to do genealogical research, rather than with genealogy in the Trier area, you may be interested in another RootsWeb list on genealogy methods: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Newsgroup_Gateways/GENMTD.html Good luck! Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message