Would like to advise that there is a new BOVE forum page and also a GIEFER forum page at www.genforum.com. Type either name (or any other you are looking for) and submit. My Boves and Giefers were from Aachen, Dollendorf, Uedelhoven, Ahrdorf, Blankenheim,, and more. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com