Hi, Russell-- Could you please do a look up for me in the book "Emigration to the Americas from the Bittburg Region in the 19th Century." 1858, Joannes Geiffes, wife Maria Eva Lemmler, child Margaret, in-laws Henricus and Gertrude Mary Drees Lemmler--believe they all came to Schenectady,NY together. They were actually from Bad Bertrich and the Lutzeraf area. thanks joan