To Keith: Regarding the Loesch family and Uchtelfangen: What a coincidence! I have films from Illingen, Gennweiler and Uchtelfangen on permanent loan at the FHL on Slate Run Rd. I am also researching Catholic families from that area that immigrated to Southern Indiana. The Loesch family is connected to my Renn and Engle lines from St Joe Hill. The Church in Illingen (very near Uchtelfangen) is St Stephan. I have pictures of the Church as one of my Renn relatives visited there last year and a Popp relation was there this past summer. I will try to contact with more later. Diane Murphy, Louisville, KY DZMroots@aol.com