To Michael Palmer: Regarding your answer to Keith Kurtz in which you quote Josef Mergen's book, where can one find a copy of "Den Auswanderun aus den ehemals preußishen Teilen des Saarlandes in 19. Jahrhundert"? The on-line FHL had a call number, but when I asked to order the book at the local FHL today, they advised me that books cannot be sent to the library, only film and fishe. Do you think it is available by inter library loan to a regular local library? If you have immediate access to that volume, would you mind looking up the Renn family, in particular Peter Renn and Mary Schmidt with son Mathias. I am interested in any families with the name Renn. They were from the Gennweiler/Illingen/Uchtelfangen area of Trier. Thanks so much for your input. Diane Murphy, Louisville, KY DZMroots@aol.com