OK, everybody, you're right; it was Murlenbach, not Muellenbach where the POPPELREITERs are. Most POPPELREITERs in America seem to come from this Murlenbach branch. My own POPPELREITERs come from Mettendorf, the offspring of Johann POPPELREITER (1785-1827) and Margaretha BOMMES. Has anyone ever connected theses two lines? I recall that Werner Lichter was working on that. Jim Ross