I located 'jdbgmgr.exe' on my 'C' drive, however it has been there since early 1999; doubt that it is the same. If you are using AOL, Microsoft, or Netscape it is highly doubtful that you will have a problem. The usual course is through bulletin boards or corporate networks, not the major ISP's; have been using them since '92 without a hint of trouble. JJ Korman Hermagoras, The Rhetor