I'm finding this discussion very informative. Thanks to all you have contributed. I have the same situation with the name Gross or Grohs -- also found as Grafs on a U.S. church record. Catherine Gilles in Wisconsin -----Original Message----- From: Werner Lichter [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Cross-Crofs Dear Thomas, this is my oppinion: yes it is correct, in Germany they wrote my Reisen family in the 18th and 19th century also as Reihsen and in other documents as Reissen (they came from Gindorf to Kordel by marriage). Later on the writing was only Reisen. The hs in the name is today often seen as double s but it isn´t. The spelling was Reisen. Because the h in Germany is a "demotion h" and often used in names with double s (written as hs) to show up that the spelling is like a single s. Crofs can only be a misreading of Crohs, because of beeing unawared of this kind of writing. Werner ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribe