In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:04:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > In my German-English dictionnary I found "Synodale" =3D synod member. > And in my English dictionary I found under Synod : 1. an ecclesistical > governing or advisory council: as a) the governing assembly of an Episcop= > al > province b) a Presbyterian governing body ranking between the presbytery > and the general assembly c) a regional or national organization of Luthe= > ran > congregations 2. the ecclesistical district governed by a synod. > > In my search I have seen this "profession" only in the Protestant church, > the catholic synod exists also but their members cannot marry. > > Barbara > My ancestor Paul MIRKES, who lived in Niedergeckler in the 1600s, was listed as a Synodale. He was Catholic and was married. I think it was some kind of lay position in the church. Jim Ross

According to my German dictionary there are 3 possible definitions of synod(e) : 1. Highest organisation of the Russian-Orthodox church 2. Protestant church : Assembly composed of representatives of the community which deals with questions of the church's organisation and teaching as well as administrating the church. 3. Catholic church : Assembly composed of bishops in a Council giving counsels, taking decisions and making the rules. According to this the Synodale was certainly a layman in the protestant church, but not in the catholic church. Now either the catholic synod didn't correspond to this definition in 1600 or the bishops had the right to marry at that time (which is well possible the celibate has not always been the rule in the catholic church and it was a big battle for the church to impose the celibate of the priests). Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : <[email protected]> À : <[email protected]> Envoyé : samedi 27 juillet 2002 21:16 Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Synodale > In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:04:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > In my German-English dictionnary I found "Synodale" =3D synod member. > > And in my English dictionary I found under Synod : 1. an ecclesistical > > governing or advisory council: as a) the governing assembly of an Episcop= > > al > > province b) a Presbyterian governing body ranking between the presbytery > > and the general assembly c) a regional or national organization of Luthe= > > ran > > congregations 2. the ecclesistical district governed by a synod. > > > > In my search I have seen this "profession" only in the Protestant church, > > the catholic synod exists also but their members cannot marry. > > > > Barbara > > > > My ancestor Paul MIRKES, who lived in Niedergeckler in the 1600s, was listed > as a Synodale. He was Catholic and was married. I think it was some kind of > lay position in the church. > > Jim Ross > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

Hello, Thank you all for your information. Here is the translation I have received for Paulinischer Meier, Synodale and Gerichtsschöe in Oberleuken. "Paulinischer" is a reference to the church St. Paulin in Trier. The church owned an estate in Oberleuken, and Franz as "Paulinischer Meier" took care of the estate. "Synodale" has some position in his religion and ruling authority. Barbara mentioned she looked this up in her German dictionary. I decided I would look it up in my English, The World Book Dictionary. syn od al (sin' e del), adj. having to do with a synod, "synod" n 1. an assembly called together to discuss and decide church affairs; church council. 2. a governing body or council of the Presbyterian Church ranking next above the Presbytery. 3. an assembly; convention,or council of any kind. SYN: convocation, meeting [< Late Latin: synodus < Greek synodos assembly, meeting, conjunction ( of planets) < syn- together + hodos a going, a way] Gerichtsschöffe in Oberleuken = a court juror in Oberleuken When in Germany before 1765, was a court juror; in a civil court, church court, or a court of who ever owned the land ? Thanks again, Alice barbara schnubel wrote: > > According to my German dictionary there are 3 possible definitions of > synod(e) : > 1. Highest organisation of the Russian-Orthodox church > 2. Protestant church : Assembly composed of representatives of the community > which deals with questions of the church's organisation and teaching as > well as administrating the church. > 3. Catholic church : Assembly composed of bishops in a Council giving > counsels, taking decisions and making the rules. > > According to this the Synodale was certainly a layman in the protestant > church, but not in the catholic church. > Now either the catholic synod didn't correspond to this definition in 1600 > or the bishops had the right to marry at that time (which is well possible > the celibate has not always been the rule in the catholic church and it was > a big battle for the church to impose the celibate of the priests). > > Barbara > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : <[email protected]> > À : <[email protected]> > Envoyé : samedi 27 juillet 2002 21:16 > Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Synodale > > > In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:04:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > > > > > In my German-English dictionnary I found "Synodale" =3D synod member. > > > And in my English dictionary I found under Synod : 1. an ecclesistical > > > governing or advisory council: as a) the governing assembly of an > Episcop= > > > al > > > province b) a Presbyterian governing body ranking between the > presbytery > > > and the general assembly c) a regional or national organization of > Luthe= > > > ran > > > congregations 2. the ecclesistical district governed by a synod. > > > > > > In my search I have seen this "profession" only in the Protestant > church, > > > the catholic synod exists also but their members cannot marry. > > > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > My ancestor Paul MIRKES, who lived in Niedergeckler in the 1600s, was > listed > > as a Synodale. He was Catholic and was married. I think it was some kind > of > > lay position in the church. > > > > Jim Ross > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe