Werner, here's a little data for your files. Four brothers, sons of Johann Gilles and Margaret Palms emigrated to Wisconsin in 1846. Their village in Germany was Schoenfeld, near Stadtkyll. They settled in the town of Marshfield in Fond du Lac County -- subsequently moved on to northeastern Iowa and western Wisconsin. Germans to America: 1840-1850 shows Sille, Johon, age 26, traveling with Anna, age 29, and Gertrude, age 3 months. Bark Stadt Antwerpen, from Antwerp to New York, docking in New York July 1, 1846. On the same ship were Gille, Nicolos age 18, traveling with Paul age 20 and Thomos age 24. From the Castle Island online data base. Fname Lname Occupatn Age Sex Arrived Origin Ship JOHON SILLE Farmer 26 M 1846-07-01 Germany Stadt Antwerpen ANNA SILLE Farmer 29 F 1846-07-01 Germany Stadt Antwerpen GERTRUDE SILLE Infant 903 F 1846-07-01 Germany Stadt Antwerpen NICOLOS GILLE Farmer 18 M 1846-07-01 Germany Stadt Antwerpen PAUL GILLE Farmer 20 M 1846-07-01 Germany Stadt Antwerpen THOMOS GILLE Farmer 24 M 1846-07-01 Germany Stadt Antwerpen Best of luck in your work! Catherine in Wisconsin --- Werner.Lichter@kabeldeutschland.de wrote: > Dear Kathy, > > is it possible to start a Trans-Atlantic connection > ? > I am trying to create a database of the most > emigrants from Trier region. > But I stopped until the last year because of beeing > busy, mooving from Gilzem to Trier > with my girl friend from Trier). > > Friends in Luxemburg trying to do the same for their > country. > > The region is related very close to eachother, but > also connected to Loraine > in France and East-Belgium (west of Luxemburg near > Athus up to Malmedy in the north). > > Very early emigrants 1842-1857 came from: > > a) Bitburg, Matzen, Moetsch, Fliessem, Nattenheim, > Kyllburg, Wilsecker > (a circle of 15 miles north and northeast of > Bitburg). > b) the area between Daun and Mayen (a lot of smal > and poor villages) (starting 40 miles east of Trier) > c) Kell (near Schillingen), Schillingen, Waldweiler > (all 20 miles south of Trier) > d) a lot of early emigrants from Luxemburg can be > found in "The Luxembourgers in the new World", > by Nicolas Gonner/Dubuque/IA). > > Werner J. Lichter > Lindenstr. 1 > D-54298 Trier > mailto:werner.lichter@kabeldeutschland.de > > Informieren Sie sich jetzt über die faszinierenden > Möglichkeiten des digitalen Fernsehens und über > Kabel Digital HOME - auf dem Kabel Deutschland > Infokanal. > > Den Kabel Deutschland Infokanal gibt’s in den > Kabelnetzen von, Bayern, Berlin, Brandenburg, > Bremen, Hamburg, Niedersachsen, Rheinland-Pfalz, > Saarland, Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt und Thüringen. > > > Diese E-Mail und etwaige Anhänge enthalten > vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte > Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat > sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, > benachrichtigen Sie bitte den Absender, indem Sie > auf diese Nachricht antworten und vernichten Sie > anschließend diese Mail und die Anlagen. Das > unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe > und Verbreitung dieser Mail und den Anhängen ist > nicht gestattet. Kabel Deutschland kann für durch > Viren entstandene Schäden, die über diese Mail > übermittelt worden sind, nicht haftbar gemacht > werden. > > This e-mail and its attachments may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged information. > If you are not the intended recipient (or have > received this e-mail in error) please immediately > notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and > then delete this e-mail and its attachments from > your system / computer. Any unauthorised copying, > disclosure, dissemination or distribution of the > material in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. > Kabel Deutschland accepts no liability for any > damage caused by any virus transmitted by this > email. > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe > > __ Sister Catherine Gilles Administrative Leadership Coordinator Silver Lake College cgilles@silver.sl.edu Grad Ed Web: http://www.sl.edu/graded/ Local: 686-6377 or 1-800-236-4752x377 "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Kortenkamp, Daniel wrote: > Catherine [KISCH] OETH named her first child (a son) "William". > Maria/Mary [KISH] SAUTER named her first son "William". Perhaps (if > Catherine & Mary were sisters) they named their first sons after their > deceased father. It was the tradition in the Trier area to name children after their baptismal sponsors. Although grandparents were often sponsors for their grandchildren, that couldn't have happened in this instance if the grandfather were already deceased. The indexes to dozens of Familinbücher are online here: http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/ Why don't you check them out to see if you can find any clues? It seems to me that the birth name of Antoinette is a big clue. It was a very unusual name in the Trier area. Serial emigration was very common, so another way to approach this is to find the hometowns of others who settled in their area of Iowa. Good luck! Kathy

Kathy/Werner - As a follow-up to my post in this list in 2002 and as indicated in the list of Auswanderer (emigrants) online at http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/ Nicholas SCHUMACHER and Maria KLASSEN born in Trimport, Trier, Germany emigrated in 1851 and 1847, respectively, to Roxbury, Dane County, Wisconsin where they were married in 1855. Family info: Nicholas SCHUMACHER 14 Apr 1824 - 11 Feb 1905 married to Maria KLASSEN 18 Dec 1837 - 5 Nov 1917 Nicholas Schumacher parents: Petri SCHUMACHER and Mariae MORITZ Maria KLASSEN parents: Peter KLASSEN 23 Oct 1807 Langsur - Jun 1884 Eva BRANDT 11 Dec 1817 Trimport - Jan 1882 If anyone reading this note might have any hints on how I could find out more about this family I would much appreciate hearing from you. Regards, Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: <Werner.Lichter@kabeldeutschland.de> To: <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] RE: Trier emigrants to Wisconsin Dear Kathy, .... Very early emigrants 1842-1857 came from: a) Bitburg, Matzen, Moetsch, Fliessem, Nattenheim, Kyllburg, Wilsecker (a circle of 15 miles north and northeast of Bitburg). b) the area between Daun and Mayen (a lot of smal and poor villages) (starting 40 miles east of Trier) c) Kell (near Schillingen), Schillingen, Waldweiler (all 20 miles south of Trier) d) a lot of early emigrants from Luxemburg can be found in "The Luxembourgers in the new World", by Nicolas Gonner/Dubuque/IA). Werner J. Lichter Lindenstr. 1 D-54298 Trier mailto:werner.lichter@kabeldeutschland.de ############################################################## Von: TRIER-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juni 2006 06:47 An: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com I'm trying to identify any families who emigrated from the Trier area and settled in northwestern Dane County, Wisconsin. If you're researching any family from the Trier area who settled in the Towns of Berry, Cross Plains, Springfield, Roxbury, Dane or nearby in Wisconsin, please contact me. Kathy Lenerz

I have ancestors from the Trier area but they didn't emigrate to Wisconsin... They emigrated to the Chicago IL!! And I am sure there were many more who also ended up in Illinois!! My Franzen's came from Sülm/Röhl, Bitburg area... http://www.budlink.us/JT_webcards/wc01/wc01_462.htm A wonderful volunteer named Cindy (I had computer problems early last year so lost most of my correspondence with her...) was also looking & researching in the Trier area. She put me on to MY ancestors when I never thought I would find them ;-) I think she lives in Iowa but I'm not sure... Jeannette Orangevale CA > From: <Werner.Lichter@kabeldeutschland.de> > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:01:16 +0200 > To: "TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com" <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] RE: Trier emigrants to Wisconsin > Resent-From: "TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com" <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 02:41:00 -0600 > > Dear Kathy, > > is it possible to start a Trans-Atlantic connection ? > I am trying to create a database of the most emigrants from Trier region. > But I stopped until the last year because of beeing busy, mooving from Gilzem > to Trier > with my girl friend from Trier). > > Friends in Luxemburg trying to do the same for their country. > > The region is related very close to eachother, but also connected to Loraine > in France and East-Belgium (west of Luxemburg near Athus up to Malmedy in the > north). > > Very early emigrants 1842-1857 came from: > > a) Bitburg, Matzen, Moetsch, Fliessem, Nattenheim, Kyllburg, Wilsecker > (a circle of 15 miles north and northeast of Bitburg). > b) the area between Daun and Mayen (a lot of smal and poor villages) (starting > 40 miles east of Trier) > c) Kell (near Schillingen), Schillingen, Waldweiler (all 20 miles south of > Trier) > d) a lot of early emigrants from Luxemburg can be found in "The Luxembourgers > in the new World", > by Nicolas Gonner/Dubuque/IA). > > Werner J. Lichter > Lindenstr. 1 > D-54298 Trier > mailto:werner.lichter@kabeldeutschland.de > > ############################################################## > Von: TRIER-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juni 2006 06:47 > An: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > I'm trying to identify any families who emigrated from the Trier area > and settled in northwestern Dane County, Wisconsin. If you're > researching any family from the Trier area who settled in the Towns of > Berry, Cross Plains, Springfield, Roxbury, Dane or nearby in Wisconsin, > please contact me. > > Kathy Lenerz > > > Informieren Sie sich jetzt über die faszinierenden Möglichkeiten des digitalen > Fernsehens und über Kabel Digital HOME - auf dem Kabel Deutschland Infokanal. > > Den Kabel Deutschland Infokanal gibt¹s in den Kabelnetzen von, Bayern, Berlin, > Brandenburg, Bremen, Hamburg, Niedersachsen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Saarland, > Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt und Thüringen. > > > Diese E-Mail und etwaige Anhänge enthalten vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich > geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese > E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, benachrichtigen Sie bitte den Absender, > indem Sie auf diese Nachricht antworten und vernichten Sie anschließend diese > Mail und die Anlagen. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe > und Verbreitung dieser Mail und den Anhängen ist nicht gestattet. Kabel > Deutschland kann für durch Viren entstandene Schäden, die über diese Mail > übermittelt worden sind, nicht haftbar gemacht werden. > > This e-mail and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally > privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have > received this e-mail in error) please immediately notify the sender by > replying to this e-mail and then delete this e-mail and its attachments from > your system / computer. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure, dissemination or > distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Kabel > Deutschland accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus > transmitted by this email. > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

Liebe Freunde Förscher, Heute suche ich in Ihren Gegend Auskünften auf METZMACHER Johann Peter Théodor, geboren um 1841 zu Monschau, Aachen verheiratet mit Maria Adolfina LECOQ Vielleicht kann Jemanden mich helfen. Danke im Vorraus, Philippe aus Malmedy, Belgien

Have anyone found this name in the records they have searched? This is my mother's maiden name. Johnann Sollman came from Trier in July 1770 to register in Vienna. I can't find him in Trier records that I have searched. He came with some other people. Then there is a listing of a George Sollman and a Lawrence Sollman in the early 1800s. Any informatin would be appreciated. Lynette Nimtz ctn55044@centurytel.net

Werner, Thanks for your info on the very early 1842-1857 immigrants from Trier. For 16 years I have been trying to trace my wife's KISCH ancestors, supposedly from Trier. Here is all the info I have: KISCH; KIESCH; KISH, Antoinette (mother) & Catherine (daughter). Antoinette [maiden name unknown] KISCH, born 1811? [15 Jan 1873 obituary reads, "aged 61 years" ]. Catherine/"Kate" KISCH, born "February 24, 1840, Trier, Germany." [funeral card]. [Same date on her gravestone.] [For another birth year, see 1900 Census below.] "... born in Trier, Germany, February 24, eighty-five years ago and came to this country with her parents when ten years old. For two years the family lived in Syracuse [Onondaga County], N.Y. Since that time Mrs. OETH has been a resident of Dubuque." [obituary, March 1925] [NOTE: Dubuque is just across the Mississippi River from Wisconsin.] 1860 Census -- "Catherine KEISH"; age "19"; "Place of birth" - "Prussia" [she was living with the "Thomas & Mary FAHRTY" family in Dubuque. Thomas was "age 30, born in Wisconsin," and Mary was "age 28, born in Ohio." They had three children - Alma (4), Anastasia (3), and John (1). I don't know for sure if this is my Catherine; I don't know this family.] Married Peter OETH, St. Mary Catholic Church, Dubuque, 9 Mar 1861. 1880 Census -- age "34"; "Place of Birth" - "Prussia". 1900 Census -- age "59"; "born Feb 1841"; "Germany"; "Year of immigration" - [nothing entered]; "Years in the U.S." - M" [a mark that looks like an "M" but probably means she couldn't remember. Other persons on this page have years entered.] 1910 Census - age "69"; "Year of immigration" - "1850"? "1853"? [I cannot read the handwriting.] 1920 Census - age "79"; "Place of birth" -- "Germany"; "Year of immigration" - "M"; "Years in the U.S" - "M". The name of Catherine's father is not known, nor the dates and places of his birth, marriage and death. Antoinette and ? KISCH may have had at least two children -- Catherine/"Kate" (b.1840/41), and Maria/Mary (b. c1847). NOTE: In a Dubuque birth/baptismal record, Catherine/"Kate" [KISCH] OETH named her first daughter "Maria Catherine" (godmother: "A. Maria Kiesch"). In another Dubuque birth/baptismal record, a Maria/Mary ["KISH"] SAUTER named her first daughter "Katie." Perhaps Catherine/"Kate" [KISCH] OETH and A. Maria/Mary ["KISH"] SAUTER were sisters. Catherine [KISCH] OETH named her first child (a son) "William". Maria/Mary [KISH] SAUTER named her first son "William". Perhaps (if Catherine & Mary were sisters) they named their first sons after their deceased father. The SAUTER family is in the 1870 Dubuque Co. Federal Census, but not any of the future censuses (I think I have traced them to Perry Co., Ohio; although I have not found an obit for Maria/Mary). -------------------------------- I have not been able to document this KISCH family in Trier, or in Syracuse; or on a passenger list. I have searched many variations of this surname, including those with "R" such as KIRSCH. However, I do not recall seeing "KIRSCH" in any of the family records. Perhaps this KISCH family came from near Trier; perhaps even from Luxembourg. My wife and I have 24 immigrant ancestors. I have traced 22 to their hometowns in Europe. I have not been able to trace KISCH. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Daniel Daniel J. Kortenkamp Stevens Point, WI 54481 http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dk/danielpg.htm

Another Trier immigrant was Michael Blindauer who settled in Dane Co., Wisconsin. I have not found a connection to Peter Blindauer as yet. Judith

Peter Blindauer immigrated from Trier about 1865, settled in Washington Co., Wi. Later he moved to Brown Co. Judith

Dear Kathy, is it possible to start a Trans-Atlantic connection ? I am trying to create a database of the most emigrants from Trier region. But I stopped until the last year because of beeing busy, mooving from Gilzem to Trier with my girl friend from Trier). Friends in Luxemburg trying to do the same for their country. The region is related very close to eachother, but also connected to Loraine in France and East-Belgium (west of Luxemburg near Athus up to Malmedy in the north). Very early emigrants 1842-1857 came from: a) Bitburg, Matzen, Moetsch, Fliessem, Nattenheim, Kyllburg, Wilsecker (a circle of 15 miles north and northeast of Bitburg). b) the area between Daun and Mayen (a lot of smal and poor villages) (starting 40 miles east of Trier) c) Kell (near Schillingen), Schillingen, Waldweiler (all 20 miles south of Trier) d) a lot of early emigrants from Luxemburg can be found in "The Luxembourgers in the new World", by Nicolas Gonner/Dubuque/IA). Werner J. Lichter Lindenstr. 1 D-54298 Trier mailto:werner.lichter@kabeldeutschland.de ############################################################## Von: TRIER-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juni 2006 06:47 An: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com I'm trying to identify any families who emigrated from the Trier area and settled in northwestern Dane County, Wisconsin. If you're researching any family from the Trier area who settled in the Towns of Berry, Cross Plains, Springfield, Roxbury, Dane or nearby in Wisconsin, please contact me. Kathy Lenerz Informieren Sie sich jetzt über die faszinierenden Möglichkeiten des digitalen Fernsehens und über Kabel Digital HOME - auf dem Kabel Deutschland Infokanal. Den Kabel Deutschland Infokanal gibt’s in den Kabelnetzen von, Bayern, Berlin, Brandenburg, Bremen, Hamburg, Niedersachsen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Saarland, Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt und Thüringen. Diese E-Mail und etwaige Anhänge enthalten vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, benachrichtigen Sie bitte den Absender, indem Sie auf diese Nachricht antworten und vernichten Sie anschließend diese Mail und die Anlagen. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe und Verbreitung dieser Mail und den Anhängen ist nicht gestattet. Kabel Deutschland kann für durch Viren entstandene Schäden, die über diese Mail übermittelt worden sind, nicht haftbar gemacht werden. This e-mail and its attachments may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and then delete this e-mail and its attachments from your system / computer. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Kabel Deutschland accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.

I'm trying to identify any families who emigrated from the Trier area and settled in northwestern Dane County, Wisconsin. If you're researching any family from the Trier area who settled in the Towns of Berry, Cross Plains, Springfield, Roxbury, Dane or nearby in Wisconsin, please contact me. Kathy Lenerz

I am looking for information on the small community named BUTZWEILER. I have traced some of my family with the surname FISCH to this community and I would like to know if anyone knows if there is a Catholic Church located there. If so what's its name and would they have the records from the 1800's and possibly prior to the 1800's. If they do not have the records there where might I look to locate birth records? I am trying to verify data on Theodor FISCH who reportedly was born there 23 August 1831 and then immigrated to the United States leaving from Antwerp in 1852 bound for New York. He later settled in Iowa and then Minnesota where he died 4 Jan 1911. I believe he may have been the son of Nicholas FISCH and Annae RUETER, but I do not know this for certain. If you have any information regarding any of this I would be very pleased to get your response. Thanks. Michael J. Fisch fisch@kern.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael J. Fisch The Bakersfield Californian fisch@.gem.kern.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hallo, 19-Juni 2006 Ich bin am suchen nahr meine Vorfahren FANEL/FANDEL aus Lauperath. Danke im Vorraus für Ihre Hilfe Philippe F KRINGS, aus Malmedy, Belgien FANEL ; FANDEL ; VANDEL Catharina, geboren am 19/03/1760 zu Lauperath, Waxweiler, gestorben am 28/03/1832 zu Malmédy, B-4960

Can anyone help with the Osweiler from Fliessem? MArk

I didn't realize a little comraderie was "verboten" by the site overseer - my apology to any others who were offended. Chuck Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] testing > On Thursday 15 June 2006 5:39 pm, Chuck wrote: >> Mike your message came through just fine - it has been slow - nothing >> the >> last 2 days but that is all the messages I been able to back on after >> deleting older stuff >> >> Chuck >> .Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] testing >> >> > havent received any mail in several days mike > > Rather than filling the archives with test messages, why not send an > actual > query to the list? If the lack of list mail leads you to suspect there is > a > problem, there are a couple of other steps you should take: > > 1. Ask Password Central whether or not you are still subbed. > http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com . Soon you will be able to see all > your > information just by logging in to Rootsweb. You can try that out now by > clicking on the LOGIN link on the upper right-hand of the main page. LOGIN > is > still in the testing phase. > > 2. Check the list archives. http://archiver.rootsweb.com > > All the best, > > Valorie

Mike your message came through just fine - it has been slow - nothing the last 2 days but that is all the messages I been able to back on after deleting older stuff Chuck .Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] testing > havent received any mail in several days mike

On Thursday 15 June 2006 5:39 pm, Chuck wrote: > Mike your message came through just fine - it has been slow - nothing the > last 2 days but that is all the messages I been able to back on after > deleting older stuff > > Chuck > .Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] testing > > > havent received any mail in several days mike Rather than filling the archives with test messages, why not send an actual query to the list? If the lack of list mail leads you to suspect there is a problem, there are a couple of other steps you should take: 1. Ask Password Central whether or not you are still subbed. http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com . Soon you will be able to see all your information just by logging in to Rootsweb. You can try that out now by clicking on the LOGIN link on the upper right-hand of the main page. LOGIN is still in the testing phase. 2. Check the list archives. http://archiver.rootsweb.com All the best, Valorie

havent received any mail in several days mike

Hi all for those interested in the Hunsruck area south of trier, there is an excellent database at http://www.online-ofb.de/hochwald/index.php? click on the map then surnames on the left . I have most of my ancestors there . Mike Schummer

There is an extensive Pauley family in Shelby County, Iowa, beginning with Theodore b 1838. I do not know his origin beyond Prussia.