----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Culver To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: Fw: Andres decedents ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Culver To: Trier-roots@roots web.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: Andres decedents I am looking for any family members of Maria Andres B: 1 Jan. 1860 in Hermeskeil Germany. Father: Johann Andres B. 23 Sept. 1830 in Gusenburg Germany. Mother:Catherine Kriesbach B. 22 Dec. 1833 in Speicher Germany. Johann & Catherine were married 5 Feb. 1857 in Hermeskeil Germany. Maria Andres married Matthias Kreisbach (B: 6 Aug. 1859 Berglicht Germany) on 1 Feb. 1884. His parents were Johann Joseph Kriesbach and Maria Schloder. Also looking for any family members of Maria Andres sister Dorothea Andres (same parents). Dorothea was B: 14 Mar.1868 in Damflos Germany. She married Johann Barthel on 16 Nov.1885. He ws B: 25 Aug. 1863 in Hermeskeil. His parents were Matthias Barthel and Catherine Jost. My grandfather was Nikolous Andres (brother of Maria & Dorothea) he was B: 4 June 1872 in Hermeskeil. He married Barbara Arend (born 1 Mar. 1876 in Damflos) on 31 Jan 1894 in Hermeskeil. Nikolous and Barbara immigrated to America in 1929. Also another brother Peter Andres (B: 28 Dec. 1861 in Damflos) and a another sister Catherine Andres (B:17 Jan. 1864 in Damflos) immigrated to America before Nikolous did. Any information about Maria or Dorothea Andres families would be helpfull. Ann Culver

----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Culver To: Trier-roots@roots web.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:11 AM Subject: Andres decedents I am looking for any family members of Maria Andres B: 1 Jan. 1860 in Hermeskeil Germany. Father: Johann Andres B. 23 Sept. 1830 in Gusenburg Germany. Mother:Catherine Kriesbach B. 22 Dec. 1833 in Speicher Germany. Johann & Catherine were married 5 Feb. 1857 in Hermeskeil Germany. Maria Andres married Matthias Kreisbach (B: 6 Aug. 1859 Berglicht Germany) on 1 Feb. 1884. His parents were Johann Joseph Kriesbach and Maria Schloder. Also looking for any family members of Maria Andres sister Dorothea Andres (same parents). Dorothea was B: 14 Mar.1868 in Damflos Germany. She married Johann Barthel on 16 Nov.1885. He ws B: 25 Aug. 1863 in Hermeskeil. His parents were Matthias Barthel and Catherine Jost. My grandfather was Nikolous Andres (brother of Maria & Dorothea) he was B: 4 June 1872 in Hermeskeil. He married Barbara Arend (born 1 Mar. 1876 in Damflos) on 31 Jan 1894 in Hermeskeil. Nikolous and Barbara immigrated to America in 1929. Also another brother Peter Andres (B: 28 Dec. 1861 in Damflos) and a another sister Catherine Andres (B:17 Jan. 1864 in Damflos) immigrated to America before Nikolous did. Any information about Maria or Dorothea Andres families would be helpfull. Ann Culver

Maureen Girard wrote: > My ancestor was Johann Jacob Jung, b. 25 Jul 1826 at Neunkirchen, near > Trier. Which Neunkirchen? There is one SSE of Trier in present-day Saarland, one northeast of Trier, and one due east of Trier. kql

Have you searched http://www.familysearch.org/ENG/Search/frameset_search.asp Lots of Johann Jungs, also try various searches on Google. Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Girard" <maureen@redshift.com> To: <trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] Jung in Trier > Hello-- > > My ancestor was Johann Jacob Jung, b. 25 Jul 1826 at Neunkirchen, near > Trier. He came to the U.S. when he was 16 years old, about 1842. He was > a > Lutheran in Germany, but he converted to the Methodist church after he > arrived in New York City. He later became a Methodist minister, serving > churches in Missouri, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, etc. Nothing > more is known about his life in Europe. > > Does anyone on the list have Jungs in the family? Can anyone point me to > sources that would help me find this man in Trier? > > Thank you, > > Maureen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello-- My ancestor was Johann Jacob Jung, b. 25 Jul 1826 at Neunkirchen, near Trier. He came to the U.S. when he was 16 years old, about 1842. He was a Lutheran in Germany, but he converted to the Methodist church after he arrived in New York City. He later became a Methodist minister, serving churches in Missouri, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin, etc. Nothing more is known about his life in Europe. Does anyone on the list have Jungs in the family? Can anyone point me to sources that would help me find this man in Trier? Thank you, Maureen

I am looking for any family members of Maria Andres born 1 Jan. 1860 in Hermeskeil Germany. Her Father: Johann Andres born 23 Sept. 1830 in Gusenburg Germany. Mother: Catherine Kriesbach, born: 22 Dec. 1833 in Speicher Germany. They were married on 5 Feb. 1857 in Hermeskeil, Germany. Maria Andres married Matthias Kriesbach born 6 Aug 1859 in Berglicht Germany on 1 Feb.1884. His parents were Johann Joseph Kriesbach and Maria Schloder. Also looking for any family members of Dorothea Andres, (who is the sister of the above Maria Andres, same parents). Dorothea was born 14 Mar. 1868 in Damflos, Germany. She married Johann Barthel on 16 Nov. 1885. He was born 25 Aug. 1863 in Hermeskeil Germany. His parents were Matthias Barthel and Catherine Jost. My grand father was Nikolous Andres ( the brother of Maria and Dorothea) Nikolous was born 4 June 1872 in Hermeskeil. He married Barbara Arend (born 1 Mar. 1876 in Damflos) on 31 Jan 1894 in Hermeskeil. Nikolous and Barbara immigrated to the US.A. in 1929. Also another brother Peter Andres born 28 Dec. 1861 in Damflos and another sister Katherina Andres born 17 Jan 1864 in Damflos immigrated to the U.S. before Nikolous did. Any information about Maria or Dorothea Andres families would be helpfull. Ann Culver

In a message dated 9/24/2006 2:28:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, margegh@charter.net writes: In case you have not checked the nearest Family History Center (LDS), they may be able to order microfilm of church records. Also, have you tried "Google"?-- I'm a regular at our FHC. Problem is: 1. I have no village identified for the birthplace - only the Kreis. 2. All the Kreis Daun records that are microfilmed are Catholic and I think the family was protestant. 3. Even then, there is a large number of parishes - too many to just randomly order films. 4. Most of the various immigration books - Burgert, Hacker - have not been microfilmed. I have checked the online indices for the Familybooks from the area. Again - nearly all seem to be Catholic. Even just checking for a similar sounding surname I just haven't had any luck. I'd hoped I'd come across a similar sounding surname - and then at least have a smaller geographical area identified. I do thank you for your response. Maybe we can get some brain storming started. Jennifer

Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Cullen To: Trier-RootsL@rootsweb.com Sent: 9/24/2006 1:52:58 PM Subject: Familenbuch In reply to the question by KQL about which Familenbuch I used: I had several films from a Kirchbuch, 1669-1930, The Katholische Kirch Schweich (Kr.Trier). The films were: Taufen, Heiraten, 1669-1775, 1798-1881 (FHL INTL film 556066; and Familenbuch 1740-1910 (which is where I found my grandfather, Johann Barthelmes. Thank you for any help you might give. Mary Cullen Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Cullen To: Trier-RootsL@rootsweb.com Sent: 9/24/2006 1:52:58 PM Subject: Familenbuch In reply to the question by KQL about which Familenbuch I used: I had several films from a Kirchbuch, 1669-1930, The Katholische Kirch Schweich (Kr.Trier). The films were: Taufen, Heiraten, 1669-1775, 1798-1881 (FHL INTL film 556066; and Familenbuch 1740-1910 (which is where I found my grandfather, Johann Barthelmes. Thank you for any help you might give. Mary Cullen Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

Peter Simon BAIDEMANN arrived in Philadelphia on the Ship Boston on 9 Nov 1764. His brother Johann Heinrich BAYDEMANN arrived on the Ship Hamilton on 6 Oct 1767. In a newspaper advert dated 15 Jun 1773, Peter, who settled in the Mohawk Valley of NY states he is searching for his brother who was last known in the Lancaster, PA area. He also states they were from Kr. Daun. The surname appears in later years as Bidelman or Bidleman - never Beidelman. There are numerous other spellings of the surname in the late 1700s- both with and without the "L" . Among the spellings are Beuttelman, Bydamen. These brothers are not at all related to the Beidelman/Bidleman family who settled in Pennsylvania. That group is from Assenheim and Hochdorf. (I've already exhausted those resources). I'm assuming the brothers were protestant as the family attended protestant churches in the Mohawk Valley. I've searched the online German phone book with any number of spellings, familysearch.org, etc. My questions: 1. Has anyone seen this name or something similar in their German research? 2. Given the various spellings, does anyone have suggestions for German spellings of the name. 3. Any suggestions for where to search next? I appreciate any and all input, suggestions, etc. Jennifer Clark

Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter Cullen To: Trier-RootsL@rootsweb.com Sent: 9/24/2006 1:52:58 PM Subject: Familenbuch In reply to the question by KQL about which Familenbuch I used: I had several films from a Kirchbuch, 1669-1930, The Katholische Kirch Schweich (Kr.Trier). The films were: Taufen, Heiraten, 1669-1775, 1798-1881 (FHL INTL film 556066; and Familenbuch 1740-1910 (which is where I found my grandfather, Johann Barthelmes. Thank you for any help you might give. Mary Cullen Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

In case you have not checked the nearest Family History Center (LDS), they may be able to order microfilm of church records. Also, have you tried "Google"?-- Good luck!!! --- Original Message ----- From: <CLARK1528@aol.com> To: <trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] BAIDEMANN from Kr. Daun - 1764 > Peter Simon BAIDEMANN arrived in Philadelphia on the Ship Boston on 9 Nov > 1764. His brother Johann Heinrich BAYDEMANN arrived on the Ship Hamilton > on 6 > Oct 1767. > > In a newspaper advert dated 15 Jun 1773, Peter, who settled in the Mohawk > Valley of NY states he is searching for his brother who was last known in > the > Lancaster, PA area. He also states they were from Kr. Daun. > > The surname appears in later years as Bidelman or Bidleman - never > Beidelman. There are numerous other spellings of the surname in the late > 1700s- both > with and without the "L" . Among the spellings are Beuttelman, Bydamen. > > These brothers are not at all related to the Beidelman/Bidleman family who > settled in Pennsylvania. That group is from Assenheim and Hochdorf. > (I've > already exhausted those resources). > > I'm assuming the brothers were protestant as the family attended > protestant > churches in the Mohawk Valley. > > I've searched the online German phone book with any number of spellings, > familysearch.org, etc. > > My questions: > 1. Has anyone seen this name or something similar in their German > research? > 2. Given the various spellings, does anyone have suggestions for German > spellings of the name. > 3. Any suggestions for where to search next? > > I appreciate any and all input, suggestions, etc. > > Jennifer Clark > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jack, The message is in the format commonly used in ortssippenbucher: =========================== FANEL or FANDEL, Jacob from Bettingen, Lauperath a farmer b: Bettingen d: Niederpiescheid buried? 17 Feb1795 Waxweiler ??? 16 Feb 1795 died in Niederpierscheid ???. married 10 Jan 1753 SCHMITZ, Margaretha (No. 1795.1) ; Lauperath - farmer's wife (Note: No. 1795.1 refers to child 1 in family tree #1795 in an ortssippenbüch) b: Lauperath ~ 19 Jun 1732 Waxweiler d: buried? 03./04 Feb 1800 Lauperath/Waxweiler Parents: Margaretha Schmitz ; Johann Mayers, Manderscheid ========================== BTW, it is not necessary to know German to read these entries. At 12:01 AM 9/24/2006, you wrote: >From: <jknott41@sbcglobal.net> >Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] FANEL, FANDEL und SCHMITZ Margareta um > 1715-1735 >>> Bettingen, Lauperath, Waxweiler und Umgebung >To: <trier-roots@rootsweb.com> > >We have some common relatives, but my German is not good enough to >understand your email! >I have the following in my family tree: Schmitz, Knott, Manderfeld, Ross, >and others from Manderfeld, and surrounding villages, who came to America in >the 1850-1870 to Minnesota! > >Jack Knott > >Phone: 314-265-7778 >Fax: 636-352-0181 >jknott41@sbcglobal.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Philippe F. Krings" <pfkrings@euregio.net> >Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:08 AM >Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] FANEL,FANDEL und SCHMITZ Margareta um 1715-1735 >>> >Bettingen,Lauperath, Waxweiler und Umgebung > > >Liebe Familienf?rscher ! > >Ich such nach meine Vorfahren : > >Fanel oder Fandel, Jakob ; Bettingen, Lauperath - Ackerer >* Bettingen + Niederpiescheid beerdigt 17.02.1795 Waxweiler >Er wurde am 16.02.1795 tot in Niederpierscheid aufgefunden. >heiratet am 10.01.1753 >Schmitz, Margaretha (No. 1795.1) ; Lauperath - Ackerin >* Lauperath ~ 19.06.1732 Waxweiler >+/beerdigt 03./04.02.1800 Lauperath/Waxweiler >Paten: Margaretha Schmitz ; Johann Mayers, Manderscheid > >Herzlichen Dank f?r Ihre Hilfe. >Gr??e aus Malmedy, Belgien

We have some common relatives, but my German is not good enough to understand your email! I have the following in my family tree: Schmitz, Knott, Manderfeld, Ross, and others from Manderfeld, and surrounding villages, who came to America in the 1850-1870 to Minnesota! Jack Knott Phone: 314-265-7778 Fax: 636-352-0181 jknott41@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippe F. Krings" <pfkrings@euregio.net> To: "QUEST EIFEL" <eifel-l@genealogy.net>; "QUEST OW PREUSSEN" <OW-Preussen-L-request@genealogy.net>; "QUEST TRIER" <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>; "Westfalen-L" <westfalen-l@genealogy.net> Cc: "QUEST WGFF" <wgff-l@genealogy.net>; "Heinsberg-L" <heinsberg-l@genealogy.net>; "QUEST KOELN-BONN" <koeln-bonn-l@genealogy.net> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:08 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] FANEL,FANDEL und SCHMITZ Margareta um 1715-1735 >>> Bettingen,Lauperath, Waxweiler und Umgebung Liebe Familienförscher ! Ich such nach meine Vorfahren : Fanel oder Fandel, Jakob ; Bettingen, Lauperath - Ackerer * Bettingen + Niederpiescheid beerdigt 17.02.1795 Waxweiler Er wurde am 16.02.1795 tot in Niederpierscheid aufgefunden. heiratet am 10.01.1753 Schmitz, Margaretha (No. 1795.1) ; Lauperath - Ackerin * Lauperath ~ 19.06.1732 Waxweiler +/beerdigt 03./04.02.1800 Lauperath/Waxweiler Paten: Margaretha Schmitz ; Johann Mayers, Manderscheid Herzlichen Dank für Ihre Hilfe. Grüße aus Malmedy, Belgien ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Liebe Familienförscher ! Ich such nach meine Vorfahren : Fanel oder Fandel, Jakob ; Bettingen, Lauperath - Ackerer * Bettingen + Niederpiescheid beerdigt 17.02.1795 Waxweiler Er wurde am 16.02.1795 tot in Niederpierscheid aufgefunden. heiratet am 10.01.1753 Schmitz, Margaretha (No. 1795.1) ; Lauperath - Ackerin * Lauperath ~ 19.06.1732 Waxweiler +/beerdigt 03./04.02.1800 Lauperath/Waxweiler Paten: Margaretha Schmitz ; Johann Mayers, Manderscheid Herzlichen Dank für Ihre Hilfe. Grüße aus Malmedy, Belgien

Walter Cullen wrote: > I looked in a familenbuch for the Trier area for my granfdfather, Johannes Barthelmes. It said his mother was Ms. Litsch from a place that I couldn't quite make out. It looked something like "Juaio" or "Jario" - the writing was not very legible. Does anyone know of an area with a name similar to this. Which Familienbuch did you look in? kql

I looked in a familenbuch for the Trier area for my granfdfather, Johannes Barthelmes. It said his mother was Ms. Litsch from a place that I couldn't quite make out. It looked something like "Juaio" or "Jario" - the writing was not very legible. Does anyone know of an area with a name similar to this. Thank you Mary Cullen Walter Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

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Good morning, Patrick. : Looking for information on connections to gggg Nicolaus- Trierweiler, ggg : Johann- Trierweiler, gg Philip - Bekond I think I understand what you're looking for. Nicolaus, Johann, and Philip with surname of Fisch. Nicolaus and Johann from the town of Trierweiler. Philip from the town of Bekond. As I have an ancestral line with the Trierweiler, naturally I got all excited. It's good that you have place names along with names in your inquiry, but dates are equally important, especially that the lengths of each generation can vary widely (one of my greatgrandparents was born in 1826, another in 1870 - you can imagine what the differences could be with another three generations). Welcome to this list, and I hope you find a lot of info about your family. Joe Miller Troy, MI Families: Miller/Müller, Bappert, Kremer, Pauli, Fohs, Trierweiler, Hufnagel, Hanses, Martin from the German Rhineland and Westphalia

Looking for information on connections to gggg Nicolaus- Trierweiler, ggg Johann- Trierweiler, gg Philip - Bekond