Hallo Listies Kürzlich gab es die Miteilung über eine Fernsehsendung über Ahnenforschung im deutschen Fernsehen Ich habe leider diese Mitteilung gelöscht. Könnte jemand mir bitte diese Angaben nochmals zukommen lassen Danke Rob Deltgen

Jerome, The records for that Beuren appears to have been microfilmed and is available for rent at your local LDS Family History Center. In addition, the online LDS Family History Library catalog shows there is an ortssippenbuch (not microfilmed) than you might purchase. The ortssippenbuch includes a CD that someone may have. ====================================== Kirchenbuch, 1712-1890 Katholische Kirche Beuren (Kr. Trier) (Main Author) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations, family book. Table of contents precedes each volume. Die Einwohner von Beuren vor 1900 Webers, Thomas (Main Author) Zenner, Rudolf (Added Author) Anderer Titel: Genealogische CD-ROM : Beuren vor 1900 Mit Bibliographie und Index. History and collective genealogy of Beuren (Kr. Trier), Rhineland, Germany. "Die vorliegende CD wurde mit Hilfe des Computerprogrammes Omega Version 5 Revision 437.041030 von Boris Neubert erstellt" Quelle: Ortsfamilienbuch Karteikasten: Beuren St. Paulinus 1720 - 1899. Alle Karteikarten Signaturschema: B, römisch-katholisch (wenn nicht anders angegeben) ====================================== There is a Philipp HEISDORF that matches your Philipp in the LDS IGI Files, someone else is researching that family. =================================== FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 Germany Husband: Nicholas Heisdorf Wife: Susan Appel Children: Phillipp Heisdorf Birth: 1877 , , Germany FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 Germany Husband: Phillipp Heisdorf Birth: 1877 , , Germany Marriage: 26 APR 1932 Fresno, Fresno, California Wife : Anna Scharton Birth: 16 SEP 1891 , Russia, Ussr Marriage: 26 APR 1932 Fresno, Fresno, California Death: 22 MAR 1962 Fresno, Fresno, California Burial: MAR 1962 Fresno, Fresno, California =================================== At 12:01 AM 10/20/2006, you wrote: >From: "Jerome A. Heisdorf" <jheisdorf1@wi.rr.com> >Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] Heisdorf search >To: "Trier Roots" <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000e01c6f39a$095311f0$a1bc1f41@Heisdorf> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >I asked the list for some help several months >ago and nobody had answers. I obtained a bit >more background info so I will ask again. >I am searching for info in Germany (Prussia) >about NICHOLAUS HEISDORF. (Nicolaus Heesforf on Ellis Island records). >He was born 11 Feb. 1867 and lived in >Rommelfangen, Prussia, before emigrating from >Rotterdam and arriving in New York on 23 April >1915. He died in New York on 23 August >1915. According to Ellis Island manifest he was >b orn in Beuren, near Trier. He married Marie >Siebenborn of Wasserbilling, LX on 13 Nov. >1906. They emigrated with 3 children: Elise, Felix and Louise. >Nicholaus had 2 brothers that I know of: Francis >*15 Nov. 1872 who immigrated 24 Oct. 1904 and >Phillip *03 Nov. 1876, who immigrated 12 une 1905. >According to Ellis Island manifest, Nicholaus >stayed with his brother, Francis, when he arrived in New York. > >From WWI draft registration records, Phillip's mother's maiden name was APEL >Can anyone determine for me the names of >Nicholaus, Phillip and Francis parents names, >other siblings and more family information??

I asked the list for some help several months ago and nobody had answers. I obtained a bit more background info so I will ask again. I am searching for info in Germany (Prussia) about NICHOLAUS HEISDORF. (Nicolaus Heesforf on Ellis Island records). He was born 11 Feb. 1867 and lived in Rommelfangen, Prussia, before emigrating from Rotterdam and arriving in New York on 23 April 1915. He died in New York on 23 August 1915. According to Ellis Island manifest he was b orn in Beuren, near Trier. He married Marie Siebenborn of Wasserbilling, LX on 13 Nov. 1906. They emigrated with 3 children: Elise, Felix and Louise. Nicholaus had 2 brothers that I know of: Francis *15 Nov. 1872 who immigrated 24 Oct. 1904 and Phillip *03 Nov. 1876, who immigrated 12 une 1905. According to Ellis Island manifest, Nicholaus stayed with his brother, Francis, when he arrived in New York. >From WWI draft registration records, Phillip's mother's maiden name was APEL Can anyone determine for me the names of Nicholaus, Phillip and Francis parents names, other siblings and more family information??

Jacob Klasges married Catharine Peifer in 1824 and had a son Jacob in Stockigt, near Nussbaum. after her death, Jacob married Angela Hoffmann Jacob Klasges senior with second wife Angela Hoffmann came with their family to Le Sueur Co, Minnesota. Their son Michael served in the Minn Mounted Rangers in the early 1860's. They came from Stockigt & Enzen in Bitburg Jacob Jr, son of the first wife, Catharine Peiper, had come to the US earlier but moved with his wife to Le Sueur Co, MN to join them. Most modern MN Klaseus families can be traced to these. Bisenius Rosseler Hoffmann Burelback Feltes Achen Schmits Getz & Leyen were other names mentioned in the church records as sponsors/witnesses/wives etc. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hallo Zur Information. In meiner Datenbank Hochzeiten in Luxemburg (Ardennen) ( Link =Ma Base Mariages) ist neu hinzugekommen CONSTHUM mit Holzthum. Demnaechst VIANDEN (zahlreiche Heiraten aus Einwohner der heutigen Eifel ) To let you know.I added to my database Weddings in Luxemburg (North) see under the link (Ma Base Mariages) the marriages of CONSTHUM including Holzthum . Coming soon VIANDEN lot of weddings from people coming from the today EIFFEL Généamicalement and best Regards Rob Deltgen http://www.deltgen.com

Hello listers, I'm stuck with my researches concerning Mathias WEILER * ca. 1770, from Trier oo Christine JAECKEL, ca. 1770, from Trier And their son Johann WEILER, * 18th Dec.1790 in Trier - Pallien, + 25th May 1842 Saarlouis - Wallerfangen, oo 13th April 1822 Catherina Vaudrevange If anyone has Information on them, I'd be grateful for sharing them with me! Tanks in advance and have a nice evening! Myriam (Haab)

> >Phillipe, I have a Fandel in my genealogy file. Joseph Fandel born in Boston 1868 Married Rosa Bosse on 17 April 1894 in the holy Trinity church, Boston. The only info I have on Joseph's parents is : father John Fandel...mother Josephine Don't know if this is any interest to you...sorry for the limited info Dave Spang

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Phillipe, Is this the record you might want? 1. Georgii (FAHNEL)FANDEL. Georgii married Magdalena ZEIMENS. Born in 1741. Magdalena died in Bettingen Rheinland Germany on 17 Apr 1817, she was 76.1 They had the following children: i. Petrus. Born on 18 Jun 1770 in Bettingen Rheinland Germany.2 Petrus died in Bettingen Rheinland Germany on 30 Jan 1829, he was 58.3. >From the microfilm come his godparents, Petrus Fahnel and Catharina ?. In Dec 1789 when Petrus was 19, he married Anna Catharina WEINTZEM, daughter of Nicolai WEINTZEM & Elisabetha, in Bettingen Rheinland Germany.2 Born in 1756 in Bettingen Rheinland Germany. Anna Catharina died in Oberweis Rheinland Germany on 5 Aug 1840, she was 84.4 2 ii. Fridericus (1773-) iii. Maria. Born on 25 May 1776 in Bettingen Rheinland Germany.2 >From the microfilm comes her godmother Maria Grun. iv. Catharina. Born on 30 Jan 1780 in Bettingen Rheinland Germany.2 3 v. Joannes Hugo (1783-1834) vi. Peter. Born on 8 Oct 1786 in Bettingen Rheinland Germany.2 >From the microfilm come his godparents, Peter Fahnel and Elisabetha Jacobs. 3.Joannes Hugo FANDEL. Born on 22 Sep 1783 in Bettingen Rheinland Germany.2 Joannes Hugo died in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany on 5 Jan 1834, he was 50.1 >From the microfilm come his godparents, Hugo Fahnel and Catharina Heusius Muller. By the time of his marriage in 1811, his father was deceased. On 16 Dec 1811 when Joannes Hugo was 28, he married Catharina SCHIEFFERS, daughter of Theodor SCHIEFFERS & Margaretha HEINEN, in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 They had the following children: 5 i. Magdalena 'Helena' (1813-) 6 ii. Petrus (1815-) iii. Friedericus. Born on 11 May 1818 in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 Friedericus died in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany on 8 Oct 1819, he was 1.1 >From the microfilm come his godparents, Friedericus Fandel of Bettingen and Magdalena Schieffers of Mettendorf. iv. Friedericus. Born on 19 Jun 1820 in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 >From the microfilm come his godparents, Friedericus Fandel of Bettingen and Magdalena Schieffers of Mettendorf. 7 v. Margaretha (1822-) 8 vi. Jacobus (1824-) vii. Mathias. Born on 31 Mar 1827 in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 >From the microfilm come his godparents, Mathias Heijen of Sinspelt and Maria Hauer of Mettendorf. 9 viii. Magdalena (1829-) ix. Margaretha. Born on 14 Oct 1831 in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 Margaretha died in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany on 25 Feb 1842, she was 10.1 >From the microfilm come her godparents, Joannes Riewer and Margaretha Schieffers of Mettendorf. This may be the wrong daughter named 'Margaretha' who died in 1842. 10 x. Catharina (1834-) 8. Jacobus FANDEL. Born on 3 Jun 1824 in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 >From the microfilm come his godparents, Jacobus Mirkes of Niedergeckler and Margaretha Schieffers of Mettendorf. While their marriage may not have occurred in Mettendorf, the banns were published there. On 22 Oct 1857 when Jacobus was 33, he married Maria SCHMATZ, daughter of Joannes Nicolaus SCHMATZ & Catharina REUTER, in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 They had one child: i. Catharina. Born on 17 Aug 1858 in Mettendorf Rheinland Germany.1 >From the microfilm come her godparents, Nicolaus Muller and Catharina Reuter. 1. From Mettendorf handwritten church records on LDS film#469172. 2. From Bettingen handwritten church records as filmed on LDS#532107. 3. From Bettingen handwritten church records on LDS film #532108. 4. From Oberweis church microfilm #549636, a film of the handwritten church records.

In reply to KQL's question: I had several films from a Kirchbuch, 1669-1930, The Katholische Kirch Schweich (Kr.Trier). The films were: Taufen, Heiraten, 1669-1775, 1798-1881 (FHL INTL film 556066; and Familienbuch 1740-1910 (which is where I found my grandfather, Johann Barthelmes.) In looking at the spelling of the word again I think it may be "Jaico." Thank you for any help you may give. Mary Cullen wmcullen@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

Jake, Don't know if this will help at all but I have a Jacobs who immigrated to Milwaukee from Losheim. Her name was Maria Jacobs, born 1820 and married to Johann Schuler (parts of the family changed the spelling to Shuler after settling in Janesville. Anyway, I know that Maria had many siblings although I don't know the names. She was the daughter of Nikolaus Jacobs and Barbara Minninger. Let me know if any of this sounds familiar. I should say that they came to the States in 1852 (direct to Milwaukee). Kind regards, Dave

Hi Janet, I'm researching in the Mainz/Kreuznach areas and have seen a lot of Becks. They were also in the Trier archives. Ruth, an ex-Pennsylvanian

Thanks, Ruth, my connections to that family were in Trier, and some of the other church lists for Trier also mentioned St. Laurentius in connection with them. I'm just starting to look into that surname, as I only recently found it as the maiden name of an ancestor's wife. Janet Ruthfam@aol.com wrote: Hi Janet, I'm researching in the Mainz/Kreuznach areas and have seen a lot of Becks. They were also in the Trier archives. Ruth, an ex-Pennsylvanian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Thank you, Dave! There is a hint in the family stories he was in Milwaukee, but it seemed so slight. We have planned a trip to the Milwaukee ARC center to see if there are any Naturalization papers. We know he was in Sheboygan (with other Jacobs') in 1855 through 1880 when they moved to Kaukauna. We know so much about him on this side of the ocean, but go blank from there. Thank you so much. This is a terrific clue. Your response is appreciated. Sincerely, Jake and Connie Jake, Don't know if this will help at all but I have a Jacobs who immigrated to Milwaukee from Losheim. Her name was Maria Jacobs, born 1820 and married to Johann Schuler (parts of the family changed the spelling to Shuler after settling in Janesville. Anyway, I know that Maria had many siblings although I don't know the names. She was the daughter of Nikolaus Jacobs and Barbara Minninger. Let me know if any of this sounds familiar. I should say that they came to the States in 1852 (direct to Milwaukee). Kind regards, Dave ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Finally with this e-mail I got to see the photo's. I went back into the first e-mail you sent with the pictures and still couldn't see them. I have no idea why. We may be related somehow way back but at this point I don't know how. Thanks again. Ann Culver ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnna St Clair" <gjclair@optonline.net> To: <trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Fw: Andres decedents Hi Ann: I have several photos of a Maria and a Christina (twins) Andres/Andree family that are somehow (but unidentifiably) linked to my Müller, Backes and Naumann families from Blisen and Namborn, Saarland. The photos can be viewed by clicking this link. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~johnnasgenealogypage/Backes/Backes% 20Photo%20Gallery.htm They appeared to have lived in Chicago, IL and Buffalo, NY. Johnna St Clair Ann Culver wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ann Culver >To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:16 AM >Subject: Fw: Andres decedents > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ann Culver >To: Trier-roots@roots web.com >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:11 AM >Subject: Andres decedents > > >I am looking for any family members of Maria Andres B: 1 Jan. 1860 in Hermeskeil Germany. >Father: Johann Andres B. 23 Sept. 1830 in Gusenburg Germany. >Mother:Catherine Kriesbach B. 22 Dec. 1833 in Speicher Germany. Johann & Catherine were married 5 Feb. 1857 in Hermeskeil Germany. >Maria Andres married Matthias Kreisbach (B: 6 Aug. 1859 Berglicht Germany) on 1 Feb. 1884. His parents were Johann Joseph Kriesbach and Maria Schloder. > >Also looking for any family members of Maria Andres sister Dorothea Andres (same parents). >Dorothea was B: 14 Mar.1868 in Damflos Germany. She married Johann Barthel on 16 Nov.1885. He ws B: 25 Aug. 1863 in Hermeskeil. His parents were Matthias Barthel and Catherine Jost. > >My grandfather was Nikolous Andres (brother of Maria & Dorothea) he was B: 4 June 1872 in Hermeskeil. He married Barbara Arend (born 1 Mar. 1876 in Damflos) on 31 Jan 1894 in Hermeskeil. Nikolous and Barbara immigrated to America in 1929. > >Also another brother Peter Andres (B: 28 Dec. 1861 in Damflos) and a another sister Catherine Andres (B:17 Jan. 1864 in Damflos) immigrated to America before Nikolous did. > >Any information about Maria or Dorothea Andres families would be helpfull. > >Ann Culver > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 9/27/2006 3:40:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, jmiller5363@wowway.com writes: We are interested in the birthplace of our Great Grandfather, HERMAN > JACOBS, his parents and siblings. There are two hints that he was from > Koblenz Hi Joe, I also was told that my grandfather came from Koblenz, but it wasn't the city - it was the Kreis or County of Koblenz. Your grandfather could have come from any town within the county. I found my grandfather in Mayen, later in Mainz and Kreuznach. Ruth

Joe, Thanks so much for your response to our query. Your suggestion on varying the spelling is worthwhile. Spelling doesn't count in Genealogy. Thanks again. Your reply was appreciated. Jake and Connie -----Original Message----- From: trier-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:trier-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jmiller5363@wowway.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:47 PM To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] JACOBS Greetings, > We are very new to this group, but would really appreciate > help/suggestions/ideas. > > We are interested in the birthplace of our Great Grandfather, HERMAN > JACOBS, his parents and siblings. There are two hints that he was from > Koblenz, but we hired a Dr. Anna Seegebrecht to check, and she found > nothing in Catholic Church records in Koblenz. Just to add my 2 cents worth, you may want to be alert to the possibility that the family name may be Jacoby. In the Germanic script, sometimes the "Y" got Americanized as an "S". Good luck on your search. Joe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, Thank you so much for your prompt reply! I'm sorry. I should have made my query more informative. I wasn't sure how much to include. We have been researching the family for a number of years. I do have his death cert., obits from the two Kaukauna newspapers, contacted the Catholic Church there, but I get stuck in Germany. After Nov. 1st, we are going to the ARC in Milwaukee to see if Herman Jacobs possibly was naturalized. His children were born in Sheboygan, WI and they moved to Kaukauna, WI in 1880. Thanks again. We do appreciate your help. Jake and Connie Oconto Falls, WI -----Original Message----- From: trier-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:trier-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kql Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:10 PM To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] JACOBS Jake Jacobs wrote: > We are interested in the birthplace of our Great Grandfather, HERMAN > JACOBS, his parents and siblings. There are two hints that he was from > Koblenz, but we hired a Dr. Anna Seegebrecht to check, and she found nothing > in Catholic Church records in Koblenz. One of the first things to know is that when people said they were "from" a particular place, it didn't necessarily mean they were from that place *exactly*. Often they just named the nearest large city that someone would recognize. The Jacobs family could have come from any number of small towns or villages that were near Koblenz, so it's not surprising that they weren't found in the church records in Koblenz itself. > HERMAN JACOBS > Born abt December 4, 1822 > We do not know his parents or siblings. > d. December 22, 1900 in Kaukauna, WI > > His first wife was > Elizabeth BACH > > Thank you for taking the time to read all this, and if anyone can give us > some direction, it would be extremely appreciated!! There are a lot of resources on this continent that you could explore to find the origins of Herman and Elizabeth: - Look for their obituaries. They may list the town of origin. Don't overlook German language newspapers. - Look for Herman's Declaration of Intent. In some places, and at some times, these included town of origin. - Search the church records where they lived (Kaukauna?). On occasion, they list place of origin, but more importantly, use them to locate relatives and friends. These may be people with the same surname, but also baptismal and confirmation sponsors with other surnames. Serial migration was common-- people migrated to areas in the US where others from their German locale were already settled. With more names to search, you will have more opportunities to locate the town of origin. - Make connections with researchers of other German immigrants to Kaukauna to find out where their ancestors originated. - Find the passenger list for the ship they were on (They're indexed on Ancestry.com and castlegarden.org), then look to see if there were any other folks on the ship who ended up in Kaukauna. This again expands the list of compatriots you can search for origins. - And more. . . You're more likely to find their definite place of origin in American records than by prematurely crossing the ocean to search for potential places of origin. Good luck! Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hallo Werner, Several months ago, just before you took your trip to Rome, I had asked you about the lists for St. Laurentius in Trier. You replied that the list had been made but was not yet on-line and you'd be happy to look up some names for me when you returned, if I would send the info to you at this email address. I sent the info, but you never responded, so I guess you did not receive it, which seems to happen sometimes. So this time I am making it as a reply to one of the posts you have made to the Trier mailing list, even though that was not about the same subject. I would be very happy if you are able to find anyone listed for St. Laurentius with the following surnames, with dates prior to about 1825: Alff Beck/Beek/Beeck Beuren Burlaeus Gevelsdorf Hachenburg Leveling/von Leveling Saarburg Tippel/Typpel - especially Anna, geb ca 1731 Umbscheiden The surnames Leveling/von Leveling and Saarburg are the most important, followed by Tippel/Typpel and Umbscheiden. The others are from earlier generations, so may not be there...I am not sure where they were located. If you do not find anyone by some of those names, I am already searching the other Trier and vicinity lists, but can't be sure I have found the right persons or if they are connected to mine. My research on them is just beginning. When I find their names at a particular location, then I order the films for that church/location from the LDS to see the actual records. Your lists for Trier are a wonderful way to help me do that. I will be most appreciative of anything you can find in the St. Laurentius records. Mit herzlichem Grüße aus Pennsylvania, Janet --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.