Thanks for the reply. I have only one official document and that is the 1870 census which shows him in Chicago. Unfortunately that document does not talk about naturalization. Do you know whether there is a site or perhaps several of them that list church baptismal records for the city of Trier around 1825 or so? I believe these would be Catholic churches. I have looked through early immigration records for when he came to this country. The only other piece of information I have is that Rochester New York is where his son lists as his(the son's) birth place. Was Rochester an immigration port, as opposed to New York City? Would a ship come up the St Lawrence riverway and landed at Rochester? ----- Original Message ---- From: kql <lenerz@worldnet.att.net> To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 8:38:44 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Finding ancestral hometowns [was Perl and Borg] Michael Young wrote: > I need some help please. The only information I have about my great > great gandather is that he was born in Trier on November 25, 1825. At > some point he immigrates to the US , settles eventually in Chicago, > Illinois, and dies April 7, 1900. Any suggestions as to how to proceed, or > where to begin? Michael, There are a lot of places one can look for an ancestor's home town. You've already checked one: his obituary. Others include: Declaration of Intent and other naturalization papers, passenger manifests, church records, military records, local histories and biographies, published genealogies, obituaries and other records of siblings, and more. While each of these may have a low probability of yielding the information you seek, that probability is still there. Examples: Of the thousands of church records I've searched, only a small fraction contained the name of the home town of the person. But if it had been my ancestor's record with the information, I would have hit the jackpot. Similarly, both passenger lists and naturalization records varied from time to time and locality to locality in the information they contained. In one 4-5 year time span in one court I searched, the forms changed several times. Fortunately, my ancestor's form was one of the ones that contained complete information on date of arrival. You don't mention any time frame your ancestor immigrated. That would be helpful in determining what records to search in this country. If he arrived in the 1850s, the passenger manifest will list only country of origin. If he arrived in the Ellis Island era (post-1892), it should list home town. You can search for the date of his immigration in a number of places: Castle Garden website http://www.castlegarden.org/search.php Castle Garden operated from 1855 to 1890, although the index on this website contains data from both before and after that time period, and lists arrivals from ports other than New York. In spite of that, the index is still incomplete. It also has no Soundex searching, so you need to search with different spelling variations. Wildcard searches are allowed. Ellis Island website http://ellisisland.org/ As with Castle Garden, Soundex searching isn't available, so search for spelling variations. Given that your gggrandfather had a rather common name, it may be difficult to determine if any hits you get from the above searches are indeed him. You'll have to check the indexes or the actual passenger list (available at Ellis Island and Ancestry websites) to determine if any of his family members are also on the ship. Ancestry.com http://ancestry.com/ This paid website contains still more indexes to passenger lists from a variety of ports, as well as images of the actual lists. You can access this site free at many public libraries and at many local Family History Centers. You should also search the census to determine which ones he appears in. That will narrow down his arrival time. The complete census is available at Ancestry.com and HeritageQuest. Many libraries subscribe to HeritageQuest, which allows patrons to search from their home computers (unlike library subscriptions to Ancestry.com). A list of libraries that offer in-home remote access to HeritageQuest is here: http://www.eogen.com/HeritageQuestOnline The 1880 census is indexed and free at FamilySearch.org: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Although the determination of an ancestor's origins is usually through using American sources, you can also check out the indexes to Trier area Familienbücher online: http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/ To search all indexes at once, use Google Advanced Search and put the above URL in the "Domain" field. You might also find him in the Ortsfamilienbuch Südlicher Hochwald: http://www.online-ofb.de/hochwald/ And you can also check these user-contributed online databases: http://meta.genealogy.net/index.jsp http://www.geneanet.org/ Here are some online guides to finding ancestors' origins: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/RG/guide/tracing_immigrant_origins.asp http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=4 http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=7 If you're just starting out in genealogy, there are some very good online guides: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/index.html http://www.arkansasresearch.com/guide.html http://www.kansasheritage.org/research/dbd/index.html http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.fhsearch Lastly, let's not forget the public library. The best book I know of for beginning genealogists is: Morgan, George G., _How to do everything with your genealogy._ New York: McGraw-Hill/Osborne, 2004. Good luck! Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought folks might be interested in some historical geography. Unfortunately I can't seem to find the websites from which I've downloaded some detailed historical maps of the Trier region, but I'll keep looking. Enjoy! Kathy Historical atlas of Germany http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/germany/haxprussia.html Historical Atlas of Germany http://www.hoeckmann.de/deutschland/deutschdetail.htm Historical Maps of Germany http://www.geocities.com/vroznmap/maps.htm Historical Atlas of the Rhineland http://www.geschichtlicheratlas.lvr.de/05kartenbeispiele.htm Germany at the Commencement of the 30 Year's War - 1618 http://www.livgenmi.com/gardiner28.htm The Religious Situation in Central Europe about 1618 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/central_europe_relig_1923.jpg Central Europe about 1648 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/central_europe_1648.jpg Central Europe on the Eve of the French Revolution (1786) http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/map.cfm?map_id=461 Central Europe about 1786 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/central_europe_1786.jpg Germany and Italy in 1803 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/germany_italy_1803.jpg Germany and Italy in 1806 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/germany_italy_1806.jpg Central Europe in 1812 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/central_europe_1812.jpg Central Europe at the Height of Napoleonic Power (1812) http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/map.cfm?map_id=372 Central Europe, 1815-1866 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/central_europe_1815_1866.jpg Central Europe (1815-1866) http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/map.cfm?map_id=373 Creation of the German Empire (1866-1871) http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/map.cfm?map_id=374 The Unification of Germany, 1815-1871 I http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/german_unified_1815_1871.jpg The Unification of Germany, 1815-1871 II http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/shepherd/north_german_fed_1866_1871.jpg The territorial jurisdictions of Rheinland-Pfalz 1816, 1832-1999 http://www.landeshauptarchiv.de/ausstellung/lav/ (Click on the thumbnail that looks like a map) German Tariff Union 1834 http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_III/Geschichte/s2001vsmm7.html Rhine Province 1848 http://www.historic-maps.de/meyer-weltatlas/deutschland/galerie/pages/417%20Rheinprovinz.htm Electorate of Trier http://www.hoeckmann.de/geschichte/trier.htm Contemporary German maps http://www.mapandroute.com/ http://www.map24.de/ http://www.routenplaner24.de/ http://www.stadtplan.net/index.asp?direct=home.html German dialects http://www.tr62.de/maps/german-map.html European roots of German-American dialects http://csumc.wisc.edu/AmericanLanguages/german/states/wisconsin/europeanroots.htm German dialects in Wisconsin :) http://csumc.wisc.edu/AmericanLanguages/german/states/wisconsin/german_wi.htm

Werner Lichter wrote: > the town of Borg is located near Perl, as this is correct Kathy wrote. > But the political situation is not correct. > Perl is the head of the community Borg belongs to. Of course, that's true today, as the web page that I referred beeves to clearly states. <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_(Saarland)> However, I thought beeves was more interested in what things were like when his ancestors lived there, so I tried to explain to him why the reference to "TRIER/BORG/PERL/SAARBURG" conflates different political jurisdictions from different time periods. Kathy

Thanks for the informaton I appreciate the help in clearing up that matter. beeves

Hello: January 8,2007 I need some help please. The only information I have about my great great gandather is that he was born in Trier on November 25, 1825. At some point he immigrates to the US , settles eventually in Chicago, Illinois, and dies April 7, 1900. I realize from reading all the notes posted on this site how difficult it is to find the actual place of birth and/or christening. His name was Wilhelm Jung. In this county that name became William Young, although his Tribune Obituary lists the last name as Yung. Any suggestions as to how to proceed, or where to begin? Thanks. I am relatively new to doing this type of research, so I will not be bothered by even the most basic and elementary kinds of suggestions. Young.m.f@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ---- From: kql <lenerz@worldnet.att.net> To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 4:08:14 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Perl and Borg Werner Lichter wrote: > the town of Borg is located near Perl, as this is correct Kathy wrote. > But the political situation is not correct. > Perl is the head of the community Borg belongs to. Of course, that's true today, as the web page that I referred beeves to clearly states. <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_(Saarland)> However, I thought beeves was more interested in what things were like when his ancestors lived there, so I tried to explain to him why the reference to "TRIER/BORG/PERL/SAARBURG" conflates different political jurisdictions from different time periods. Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the information I have on how to contact Mr. Scholer. Heribert Scholer, Neustr. 16, 54429 Schillings, Tel. 06589-7608 or 0175-2843299 Hope this helps, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO" <margedellwo@msn.com> To: <trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Herr Scholer That is wonderful. Thank YOu. But also I really gained by looking at someof the old messages saved in our rootsweb file archives. If I ever get enough time, or run out of stuff to do, I will make a methodical look see to find what I can find. many thanks to all of you marge from Minnesota ----- Original Message ----- From: kql<mailto:lenerz@worldnet.att.net> To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Herr Scholer All about Familienbücher: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortsfamilienbuch<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortsfamilienbuch> Lists of Familienbücher: http://wiki.genealogy.net/index.php/Kategorie:Ortsfamilienbuch<http://wiki.genealogy.net/index.php/Kategorie:Ortsfamilienbuch> http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/publ5.html<http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/publ5.html> Search for a Familienbuch by name of place (Ort): http://www.rolf-freytag.de/fhilfe/myphp/index.php<http://www.rolf-freytagde/fhilfe/myphp/index.php> Online indexes to Trier area Familienbücher: (Click on "ABC-Listen") http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/<http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/> Vendors of Familienbücher: http://www.rolf-freytag.de/<http://www.rolf-freytag.de/> http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/publ5.html<http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/publ5.html> http://www.andreas-scholer.de/heribert/fambuch.htm<http://www.andreas-scholer.de/heribert/fambuch.htm> http://home.debitel.net/user/bungert.h/site01.htm<http://home.debitel.net/user/bungert.h/site01.htm> Good luck! Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I wonder if Werner would be willing to reprint if he could get enough people who were interested & would pay printing & mailing before printing. We've done this w/ Ursula & the Familien Books we wanted. Diana

Hello Pat, I do have acess to to Obergillig and Langsur families, because my Bast and Dusemond ancestors came from Langsur, just across the river mosel. Werner LICHTER Trier, Germany PThum@aol.com schrieb: I am interested in any of the above names that were in the Oberbillig area in the early 1700s. Thank you. Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com

Kathy, I have found my Schommer/Schummer ancestors in all the Fhc films for Hermeskeil & copied the documentation from 1746 . The book that Reiner Schmitt wrote went back to 1719 & that is where documentation on my 4th great grandparents would have been. I May have to make a trip to Salt Lake city sometime unless I can find the book somewhere. Thanks Mike Schummer

Hello Marge, wht do you need to know ? Werner LICHTER Trier, Germany HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO <margedellwo@msn.com> schrieb: I went to the archives ( you get there by googleing Trier -Roots-L) and it lists the archives as such. I got to the list by using the alphabet method. So the archives are the actual emails put on the list by us. then go to the years. Patty discussed that the books were accessed by writing or mailing Herr Scholer and we know by the message in June that he gave the books to Herr Lichter. So have to go to the months after. I looked through about 3 months and can't find directions. so help!!!!! I need to know how to acess Herr Lichter. I think probably you just ask him by email for the information you want for whatever village. Am I right? marge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com

I am going to sit tight until I hear from Werner. Even though the books are copywrited, perhaps the originators or owners of the books would allow this rootsweb to publish the books, if we pooled some money and purchased some books. Or if we each purchased one and then donated it to the list. Something where we could look up. And even downloaded. Especially where they couldn't make any money because they won't print more books or cd's. ( Typically, that is the reason for the copywrite, to protect their interest in the books) typically all of them would be best on CD. but that would involving copying again and margin for error goes up. Well, Werner, how does that sound? Good or not so good? How about on the new Trier site? There is a rootsweb site for a county in New York that is superb. It does have some early county records right on the sight plus early census records. Going to the library is fine if you are fairly close. Our library has really weird hours, and last time I ordered 25.00 worth of records( before Christmas) and they neglected to call me when they got it, so I just plain lost out. Besides which it is a bit of a trip. And when you get there, there is only so much your eyes can handle with the microfische. Besides, what I am waiting for is to find out, can we access those records any other way than the library? It seems a shame he went to the trouble of doing all that copying and translating so no one can access them.

Mike Schummer wrote: > I believe I may have the same situation as Marge. .I am looking to obtain a > copy of the Family book by Reiner Schmitt for Catholic Church St Martins in > Hermeskeil . I dont understand why these book are so difficult to > obtain and are out of print You have to understand that some of these villages were, and still are, quite small, and the pool of people interested in such books (largely genealogists) is even smaller. Keeping books in print, particularly self-published ones, can involve a hefty economic undertaking. With books that have a limited interest group, it can be financially impossible. Mike, the parish records for Hermeskeil are available on microfilm from the FHL. As they're the original records from which the Hermeskeil Familienbuch was derived, they're even better than the Familienbuch (no transcription errors, omissions, etc.). Why don't you get the microfilm of the church records and look at the originals? Kathy

I believe I may have the same situation as Marge. .I am looking to obtain a copy of the Family book by Reiner Schmitt for Catholic Church St Martins in Hermeskeil . About 2 years ago I sent a letter to Reiner regarding the family books. I was advised by Benny Dages ,his interperter that the books were out if stock . He said Rainer would be glad to answer any questions They provided me with info on my Ancestors going back to the early 1700' . However I would still like to obtain a copy of the books. I noticed that these books were listed in Volkmar- Weiss . , one of the vendors, that Kathy listed in her email but I could see no reference as to whether rhey could be purchased from them. I was fortunate enough several years ago to obtain Hans Peter Klaucks book Inhabitants of Wadrill & Sitzerath but I didnt get it thru him. I realize the Family History Library has the book , but I would have to go to Salt Lake City, as I believe they wont send copies to local libraries . I dont understand why these book are so difficult to obtain and are out of print I know Rolf Freytag has some of these on Cd, one of which I purchased a few years ago . Any help would be appreciated . thanks Mike Schummer

beeves wrote: > Hi list members- I am interested in getting some history info about the > area of TRIER/BORG/PERL/SAARBURG. My Biewer family's origin > has been listed as Borg near Perl, Saarburg,Trier Prussia. My problem > is Which of this list would be the CITY - I realize that many times our > families listed a City and a larger City as its birth locations. Borg is a village near the larger town of Perl. According to Wikipedia <http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl_(Saarland)> the populaton of Borg is 390 and that of Perl 6666. It's fairly common in Germany for villages to be identified as near other towns. This is because there are often several villages with the same name and also because some villages are so small that to locate them you need to know the next larger community. Hence, Borg near Perl. As to Saarburg, it is a city. But in the past it was also a Kreis, a political jurisdiction similar to an American county. The boundaries of the Kreis have changed and it's now Kreis Trier-Saarburg, in the state of Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate). Trier is also a city, but the area around Trier was at one time a German state, in English called the Electorate of Trier, often shortened to just Trier. After the end of the Napoleonic wars (1815), the former Electorate of Trier became part of Prussia, eventually in the Rhine Province of Prussia. I'd have to hunt up some old maps to determine if Borg and Perl were also part of the Rhine Province, but today they are both in the German state of Saarland, which didn't exist until the 1950s. As you can see, boundaries changed frequently in this part of Germany. "Borg near Perl, Saarburg, Trier, Prussia" would seem to conflate information from several different historical periods, but seems to refer to the village of Borg, near the village of Perl, in the Kreis of Saarburg, in the one-time Electorate of Trier, in Prussia. Hope that helps, Kathy

Herr Lichter, First, I want to know a link, to see if I can order any of the Scholer books. And then how to negotiate the site, because I don't read German. the Trier list has advised me on Babel and a translater program. I have the cd from Petto, and I thought from the web site I accessed it probable was similar. LIke a CD with the different towns, and then the list. Do you still have the list and does someone here in the States sell it? Or should I mail you my requests, and are they limited to single lookups? I will try this afternoon to negotiate a list by using BABEL. From scanning all the sites given to me, I only saw names on one site. but maybe I just didn't use the right button. I am very sorry to bother you. Just frustrated and know you would know the answer I have 3 dead ends in my Hunsrueck family. So I am having to methodically go through all the surrounding towns to find the familys. So thank you for replying to me. Regards, marge dellwo Otsego, MN ----- Original Message ----- From: Werner Lichter<mailto:werner_lichter@yahoo.de> To: trier-roots@rootsweb.com<mailto:trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS] Herr Scholer Hello Marge, wht do you need to know ? Werner LICHTER Trier, Germany HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO <margedellwo@msn.com<mailto:margedellwo@msn.com>> schrieb: I went to the archives ( you get there by googleing Trier -Roots-L) and it lists the archives as such. I got to the list by using the alphabet method. So the archives are the actual emails put on the list by us. then go to the years. Patty discussed that the books were accessed by writing or mailing Herr Scholer and we know by the message in June that he gave the books to Herr Lichter. So have to go to the months after. I looked through about 3 months and can't find directions. so help!!!!! I need to know how to acess Herr Lichter. I think probably you just ask him by email for the information you want for whatever village. Am I right? marge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list members- I am interested in getting some history info about the area of TRIER/BORG/PERL/SAARBURG. My Biewer family's origin has been listed as Borg near Perl, Saarburg,Trier Prussia. My problem is Which of this list would be the CITY - I realize that many times our families listed a City and a larger City as its birth locations. I also show a Catholic Church as the place that some members belonged. St. John the Baptist in BORG. THANK YOU for letting me enter this request, beeves

The Babelfish translator can translate to and from many languages, including German and is available at: http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/babelfish/tr You can enter a URL or block text (limited amount). The translations are not perfect, but are good enough to get the gist of what was being said in the language you are translating. Don Conley <drconley@hotmail.com> wrote: Its all you have to do is put the URL in a translater and Daaa they come up in English or most any other language that you want Don & Scharmal Conley Kennewick, Washington "In God We Trust" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shardon/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO To: trier-roots Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] familienbucher Help help help. got your list Kathy and tried them all, but I do not read German, thus I could not find the link to the books or the cost or the address where to send for them The sites are all in German and all have tourist stuff on them, and I could not find the Trier area Familienbucher, although I know I have been on that site before. So know there must be others like me, or I would just email and ask Karen or Patty G or Joanne M or one of you nice people that have helped me so much. So what we need is DETAILS. I thought I had a email address from Werner from long ago, but it wasn't complete. So again I ask, is he still a part of this list? Does he give his mail address out? Or can someone walk all us Novices ( as far as the language goes) through getting to a list. One more thing, I have been around a time or two, so don't know what my problem is, perhaps it is because I am getting old. But everytime I really start searching in the German records, I have to re! -l! earn. I am extreemly sorry. I can get those records another way, but that won't help the others on the list. Thank you all so much for being so helpful. marge as part of my re-organizing project, all my links and towns are being put in a loose leaf notebook, so hopefully that might help some of the rest of you. paperwork, paperwork ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ..................... The library is the stronghold of collective wisdom that stands at the forefront of the true strength of a nation and its people. By not properly funding its libraries, a nation fails its people and fully fails itself. Sue Watkins

Its all you have to do is put the URL in a translater and Daaa they come up in English or most any other language that you want Don & Scharmal Conley Kennewick, Washington "In God We Trust" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shardon/index.html<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shardon/index.html> ----- Original Message ----- From: HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO<mailto:margedellwo@msn.com> To: trier-roots<mailto:trier-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS] familienbucher Help help help. got your list Kathy and tried them all, but I do not read German, thus I could not find the link to the books or the cost or the address where to send for them The sites are all in German and all have tourist stuff on them, and I could not find the Trier area Familienbucher, although I know I have been on that site before. So know there must be others like me, or I would just email and ask Karen or Patty G or Joanne M or one of you nice people that have helped me so much. So what we need is DETAILS. I thought I had a email address from Werner from long ago, but it wasn't complete. So again I ask, is he still a part of this list? Does he give his mail address out? Or can someone walk all us Novices ( as far as the language goes) through getting to a list. One more thing, I have been around a time or two, so don't know what my problem is, perhaps it is because I am getting old. But everytime I really start searching in the German records, I have to re-l! earn. I am extreemly sorry. I can get those records another way, but that won't help the others on the list. Thank you all so much for being so helpful. marge as part of my re-organizing project, all my links and towns are being put in a loose leaf notebook, so hopefully that might help some of the rest of you. paperwork, paperwork ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> All about Familienbücher: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortsfamilienbuch If you don't understand German, try using BabelFish to translate. It can do entire web pages. http://babelfish.altavista.com/ > Lists of Familienbücher: > http://wiki.genealogy.net/index.php/Kategorie:Ortsfamilienbuch > http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/publ5.html These are lists of available Familienbücher, listed in alphabetical order. Click on the name of the village of interest, and you will find the publication information for its Familienbuch. > Search for a Familienbuch by name of place (Ort): > http://www.rolf-freytag.de/fhilfe/myphp/index.php All of the above just tell you whether there is a Familienbuch available for any particular village. > Online indexes to Trier area Familienbücher: > (Click on "ABC-Listen") > http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/ The Trier area group of the Westdeutsche Gesellschaft für Familienkunde (West German Society for Family History) has put the indexes for their Familienbücher online. Click on "ABC-Listen" in the left-hand pane to get a list of the villages for which indexes are available. Click on the village name to go to the index. > Vendors of Familienbücher: > http://www.rolf-freytag.de/ > http://www.volkmar-weiss.de/publ5.html > http://www.andreas-scholer.de/heribert/fambuch.htm > http://home.debitel.net/user/bungert.h/site01.htm These are vendors who sell Familienbücher. You'll have to correspond with them yourself to see how to obtain the books. As to Werner Lichter-- he shows up on this list about once or twice a year, then disappears. You should be able to find his email address in the archives. Just search for his name. I have yet to receive a reply to any email I've sent him. Good luck! Kathy HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO wrote: > Help help help. got your list Kathy and tried them all, but I do not > read German, thus I could not find the link to the books or the cost > or the address where to send for them The sites are all in German > and all have tourist stuff on them, and I could not find the Trier > area Familienbucher, although I know I have been on that site before. > So know there must be others like me, or I would just email and ask > Karen or Patty G or Joanne M or one of you nice people that have > helped me so much. So what we need is DETAILS. I thought I had a > email address from Werner from long ago, but it wasn't complete. So > again I ask, is he still a part of this list? Does he give his mail > address out? Or can someone walk all us Novices ( as far as the > language goes) through getting to a list. One more thing, I have > been around a time or two, so don't know what my problem is, perhaps > it is because I am getting old. But everytime I really start > searching in the German records, I have to re-l! earn. I am > extreemly sorry. I can get those records another way, but that won't > help the others on the list. Thank you all so much for being so > helpful. marge as part of my re-organizing project, all my links and > towns are being put in a loose leaf notebook, so hopefully that might > help some of the rest of you. paperwork, paperwork > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to TRIER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Help help help. got your list Kathy and tried them all, but I do not read German, thus I could not find the link to the books or the cost or the address where to send for them The sites are all in German and all have tourist stuff on them, and I could not find the Trier area Familienbucher, although I know I have been on that site before. So know there must be others like me, or I would just email and ask Karen or Patty G or Joanne M or one of you nice people that have helped me so much. So what we need is DETAILS. I thought I had a email address from Werner from long ago, but it wasn't complete. So again I ask, is he still a part of this list? Does he give his mail address out? Or can someone walk all us Novices ( as far as the language goes) through getting to a list. One more thing, I have been around a time or two, so don't know what my problem is, perhaps it is because I am getting old. But everytime I really start searching in the German records, I have to re-learn. I am extreemly sorry. I can get those records another way, but that won't help the others on the list. Thank you all so much for being so helpful. marge as part of my re-organizing project, all my links and towns are being put in a loose leaf notebook, so hopefully that might help some of the rest of you. paperwork, paperwork