Since my last posting to any list, I have learned much about my EITING ancestors in the USA and something of their European origins. Their point of origin was Bocholt, Germany which is just across the Netherlands border. Although Bocholt is in Germany, my EITING ancestors strongly associated with Dutch traditions, although a given individual when listing his place of birth on USA documents would sometimes list Holland, sometime Germany, and sometimes Prussia. They attended St. Georges Catholic Church in Bocholt. I know that LDS records are available, and I will be searching them, but thought would put out this query in case someone has already researched this family or is somehow connected. Wilhelm EITING (sometimes spelled EITINK), born Bocholt about 1774, married Petronella VAN BECK. I believe the following two were there children: Johann Henry EITING (b. Feb 6, 1799, d. Feb 14, 1837, Bocholt) m. Jan 23, 1816 Maria Ann ENK (b. July 17, 1795, d. Oct 17, 1830, Bocholt). Maria Ann's parents were Johann ENK and Johanna WILTINK. Johann Henry's second wife was Johanna EVERS, married March 1, 1831. William EITING (b. about 1793, d. Dec 24, 1845) m. Theodora VOS (d. Jan 18, 1844?). Johann Henry and Maria Ann had four children, Johann William, b. 1818; Helena, b. Oct 3m 1820; Casper, b. Aug 31, 1823; and John, b. Mar 25, 1828. Johann William emigrated to Ohio, USA, 1848, and Helena and Casper a little later. William EITING and Theodora VOS had five sons and three daughters born over the period 1812 to 1826, all of whom are believed to have emigrated to Brown County, Wisconsin, USA , about 1848. Some of the daughters may have married in Bocholt, but it is believed all of the sons did not marry till reaching Wisconsin (a son John Henry, born Oct 10, 1817, may be the exception to this). It is believed that some of this extended family remained in Bocholt and that descendants remain there today. Any connections to this family? Andy Wegner, Winneconne, Wisconsin

Hi, Does anybody happen to know or have any knowledge of the RIESDORPH families that lived in your county?????? I am having terrible time getting a handle on any of them that spelled their name as in subject. Any help would be greatly appreciatedPlease E-mail me direct at Friesdorph@aol.com. Regards, Frederick(Fred) E. Riesdorph Greenville, NC

I would like to hire someone with a copy of Familienbuch Schleidweiler to do some research for me. Please e-mail with rates and costs. Thanks Gini GiniNichol@aol.com

I need to know when civil registration for marriages began in the Schleidweiler-Rodt area. What is the address to obtain a copy of a civil marriage record for this region? Thanks for any help. Gini GiniNichol@aol.com

Hallo, Ich bin aus Lothringen und mehrere meiner Vorfahren kammen aus Deutschland. Für meinen Stammbaum erweitern zu können suche ich Auskünfte über: ----- HEN Nicolas ° 1782 in BLIESMENGEN X MICK Catherine ° 1789 in BLIESMENGEN ----- KRAEMER Marguerite ° in KASSEL X KOCH Jean ( eine Tochter Anne ° 1717 ) ----- ANDRES Thomas ° 1674 in EINSENBERG + 22/11/1704 in HANVILLER ----- BOUR Anne Marie ° in EMMERSWEILLER X GONDOLF Pierre ° in MERLEBACH ----- LUXEMBURGER Jean Pierre + 14/01/1820 in GRANDE ROSSELLE ----- DIVENOT DIMENET Anne Marguerite ° 1681 in HASSEL ZWEIBRÜCKEN T. von DIVENOT Jean ° in HASSEL ZWEIBRÜCKEN und JULIAINE Jeanne ° in TREVES ----- FEY Nicolas ° in HORNBACH + 12/12/1748 in HOTTVILLER S. von FEY Abraham ° in HORNBACH und NC Elisabeth ----- STAB Gaspard ° in HORNBACH S. von STAB Charles ° in STEINHAUSEN und FISCHER Anne Marguerite ° 1702 in STEINHAUSEN X KAYSER Catherine ° 26/07/1747 in HOTTVILLER ----- WALLING Marguerite ° in HUBENBERG X SPANGEL Charles ( Ein Sohn Georges ° 12/08/1791 in KERBACH ) ----- MERTZ Angélique ° in LAUTERBACH X KURTZ louis ( Eine Tochter Madeleine + 14/12/1811 in HOMBOURG BAS ) ----- HAY Suzanne ° 1777 in NASSWEILLER + 02/11/1811 in ST NICOLAS X LUX Paul ° 1767 in ST NICOLAS + 1814 in ST NICOLAS ----- LANG Henri ° in NIEDERGAILBACH X WALDECK Catherine ( Ein Sohn Christophe x 01/11/1736 in GROS REDERCHING mit GITZHOFEN Ursule ) ----- LEMBACH Anne Gertrude ° 1702 in OBERBEXBACH X 07/05/1726 in OBERBEXBACH mit RENARD Nicolas ° 1700 in SIERSTHAL ----- BRAUSCH Jean Nicolas ° 16/11/1885 in PERDEBACH S. von Nicolas und REINERT Marie X BOH Madeleine ° 22/02/1883 in HOMBOURG BAS ----- PFEIFFER Catherine ° 1706 in RIEDELBERG X SPRENTZ Jean Georges ° 1705 in RIEDELBERG ----- WINCKLER Madeleine ° in RIEDELBERG X GERING Jacques ° in RICKENBACH BERNERTHAL ( SCHWEIZ ) ( Eine Tochter Marie Madeleine ° 01/02/1705 in HOTTVILLER ----- GREBER Marie Barbe ° in SPIESEN X 23/01/1719 in SIERSTHAL mit LENERT LEONARD Valentin ° in SIEWILLER ----- BIACHE Jean ° in TRULBEN X STERNJACOB Marguerite ( Eine Tochter Madeleine ° 1749 + 1802 ) ----- HOLL HALLING Anne Marie ° in UHRWEILLER T. von Jean und NC N X 13/02/1708 in WALSCHBRONN mit GAST Sébastien ° 1670 in WALSCHBRONN ----- Vielen dank Daniel

Manfred Schaefer wrote: > > Jim & Don, > > If we want to be totally correct, then there are two spellings for the village. > > Wissembourg is the French spelling and Weißenburg is the German spelling. (Note the ß = ss) > > The Alsace (Elsaß) district has historically been both French and German so depending on the period of interest either spelling may be found in documents. > > I don't mean to be nitpicking either. > > Manfred Schaefer. > > > Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Alsace-Lorraine > > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:19:53 -0500 > > From: Jim Bollinger <jimb@evcom.net> > > To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Don, > > You have your easr and west mixed up! > > I have motored thru this small village in Alsace and it is WEST of > > Karlsruhe not east. > > It is spelled WISSEMBOURG not Weissembourg ( no "I" in the spelling). > > Don't mean to be nitpicking but let's get this lady looking in the right > > direction... > > > > Jim Bollinger > > > > At 02:19 PM 02/25/1999 -0600, Don Hickman wrote: > > >> Does anyone know if there is such a town in Germany? Family lore > > >> indicates my orginal Whipkey ancestor came from Weissembourg, > > >> Alsace-Lorraine, Germany. Have searched several German and Luxembourg > > web sites, can't fnd it, obviously, the spelling may not be correct. > > >> Any help appreciated. > > > > > >The area you are speaking of is now a part of France so you are searching > > in the wrong countries. It is just east of Karlsruhe, Germany but is just > > inside the French border in the district of Bas-Rhin, Alsace. This area > > has a history of bouncing between France and Germany due to the wars. > > > > > >Don Hickman > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > > >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html PASSING ON FROM Virginia

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Hi, all, I'm new to this list. I'm trying to find the origins of Christoph DUCARM (also spelled DeCarmes in neighboring towns) who was born circa 1700 and died in 1780 in Eppelborn parish (includes Calmesweiler). His wife Susanna Koenig d. 1765 in Eppelborn parish. Children born in Eppelborn parish: Joannes b. 1733 Nikolaus b. 1735 Joann Peter b. 1737 Elizabeth b. 1739 Maria b. 1739-40 Franziska b. 1742 Caspar b. 1744 The name DUCARM probably comes from the French DuCharme (Picardie region and north & west drop the "h"). Those emigrants to the Banat in the 1760s (Nikolaus and Joann Peter) maintained the older spelling of the name (DUKARM) while the family name today in the area is DECKARM. Anyone familiar with this surname? Mary Ann R. Unger

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Jim & Don, If we want to be totally correct, then there are two spellings for the village. Wissembourg is the French spelling and Weißenburg is the German spelling. (Note the ß = ss) The Alsace (Elsaß) district has historically been both French and German so depending on the period of interest either spelling may be found in documents. I don't mean to be nitpicking either. Manfred Schaefer. > Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Alsace-Lorraine > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:19:53 -0500 > From: Jim Bollinger <jimb@evcom.net> > To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Don, > You have your easr and west mixed up! > I have motored thru this small village in Alsace and it is WEST of > Karlsruhe not east. > It is spelled WISSEMBOURG not Weissembourg ( no "I" in the spelling). > Don't mean to be nitpicking but let's get this lady looking in the right > direction... > > Jim Bollinger > > At 02:19 PM 02/25/1999 -0600, Don Hickman wrote: > >> Does anyone know if there is such a town in Germany? Family lore > >> indicates my orginal Whipkey ancestor came from Weissembourg, > >> Alsace-Lorraine, Germany. Have searched several German and Luxembourg > web sites, can't fnd it, obviously, the spelling may not be correct. > >> Any help appreciated. > > > >The area you are speaking of is now a part of France so you are searching > in the wrong countries. It is just east of Karlsruhe, Germany but is just > inside the French border in the district of Bas-Rhin, Alsace. This area > has a history of bouncing between France and Germany due to the wars. > > > >Don Hickman > > > > > > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hello! I would like to know the location of the town of "Senaktau", Germany?. This is the location that my grandfather put as his birthplace on his application for a marriage license in 1921. GUSTAVE ELKMANN was born in 1895. Father was John (Johann?) Elkmann; mother was Maria Bohile/Bohle/Bokle? Johann is listed as being born in Germany & Maria is listed as being born in France. We had thought that he was from the area between Koln (Cologne) and Dusseldorf. Family history has it that Gustave had 7 brothers and a sister (Evangaline?). The brothers must have been older since all supposedly were killed in action on the German side of WW1; it is unknown whether any had families. Gustave was quite a character...he left his family in NY about 1932-33 and we think he may have moved to CA (we have a death certificate for a Gustave Elkmann, born in Germany, in Orange Cty CA in 1963, with another spouse). Any information about this town, or anything connected to this family would be appreciated. Danke Schon ! Paul Elkmann

I hope someone can help me with this town. I am searching for the place of birth of my husband's HOHL ancestors. All records we have seen show them as coming from France or from Alsace. A couple of marriage records show "Lutz" as a birthplace. I do not find this town in France or Alsace. However, there is a Lutz in Luxembourg. Can someone tell me if this town in Luxembourg was at one time part of Alsace? The ancestors in question came from the area in 1860 to New York City. Thanks for your help. Cathy Weber

I am researching the family of Philip Krämer from Holzfeld who married Margaretta Doerfer from Peterswald. They were married at St. Peter & Paul Church in Peterswald. Other names involved are: GEIS, GRASS, PAULEY, BILLEN, MESSENICH. Am I on the correct list for these areas. My grandfather, John Krämer, was born in Kordel and his records were found in Trier. Rose Blazier

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Don, You have your easr and west mixed up! I have motored thru this small village in Alsace and it is WEST of Karlsruhe not east. It is spelled WISSEMBOURG not Weissembourg ( no "I" in the spelling). Don't mean to be nitpicking but let's get this guy looking in the right direction... Jim Bollinger At 02:19 PM 02/25/1999 -0600, Don Hickman wrote: >> Does anyone know if there is such a town in Germany? Family lore >> indicates my orginal Whipkey ancestor came from Weissembourg, >> Alsace-Lorraine, Germany. Have searched several German and Luxembourg web sites, can't fnd it, obviously, the spelling may not be correct. >> Any help appreciated. > >The area you are speaking of is now a part of France so you are searching in the wrong countries. It is just east of Karlsruhe, Germany but is just inside the French border in the district of Bas-Rhin, Alsace. This area has a history of bouncing between France and Germany due to the wars. > >Don Hickman > > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Jim Bollinger wrote: > Don, > You have your easr and west mixed up! > I have motored thru this small village in Alsace and it is WEST of > Karlsruhe not east. > It is spelled WISSEMBOURG not Weissembourg ( no "I" in the spelling). > Don't mean to be nitpicking but let's get this lady looking in the right > direction... > > Jim Bollinger I wasn't mixed up, Big Boy; I know it's west. Just call it a senior moment. But at least I can type easT correctly. Don Hickman

OPPS, I forgot to put the year down----it's 1864 -----Original Message----- From: Florence Notch <fnotch@wcta.net> To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Merzig >Hi, >Does anyone have the book,"Die Auswanderungen aus dem Kreise Merzig in 19. >Jahrhundert"? Woulld you please lookup Johann RIEHM. Thanks so much. >Florence > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hi, Does anyone have the book,"Die Auswanderungen aus dem Kreise Merzig in 19. Jahrhundert"? Woulld you please lookup Johann RIEHM. Thanks so much. Florence

Don, You have your easr and west mixed up! I have motored thru this small village in Alsace and it is WEST of Karlsruhe not east. It is spelled WISSEMBOURG not Weissembourg ( no "I" in the spelling). Don't mean to be nitpicking but let's get this lady looking in the right direction... Jim Bollinger At 02:19 PM 02/25/1999 -0600, Don Hickman wrote: >> Does anyone know if there is such a town in Germany? Family lore >> indicates my orginal Whipkey ancestor came from Weissembourg, >> Alsace-Lorraine, Germany. Have searched several German and Luxembourg web sites, can't fnd it, obviously, the spelling may not be correct. >> Any help appreciated. > >The area you are speaking of is now a part of France so you are searching in the wrong countries. It is just east of Karlsruhe, Germany but is just inside the French border in the district of Bas-Rhin, Alsace. This area has a history of bouncing between France and Germany due to the wars. > >Don Hickman > > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

> Does anyone know if there is such a town in Germany? Family lore > indicates my orginal Whipkey ancestor came from Weissembourg, > Alsace-Lorraine, Germany. Have searched several German and Luxembourg web sites, can't fnd it, obviously, the spelling may not be correct. > Any help appreciated. The area you are speaking of is now a part of France so you are searching in the wrong countries. It is just east of Karlsruhe, Germany but is just inside the French border in the district of Bas-Rhin, Alsace. This area has a history of bouncing between France and Germany due to the wars. Don Hickman