Does any one know where I can purchase the 2 volume set in English of the "Luxembourgers in the New World"? I e-mailed Vail Corp and did not receive an answer. Thought maybe someone out there would have some ideas. Thank you in advance for your response. Jenny Kilen Tacoma, WA ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail

Before you even try.... The vote was taken by the subscribers several months ago.... and the vote was very overwhelming NO! (over 2/3) Reasons were given.... 1. Trier was the seat of the Archdiocese of Trier covering much of Luxembourg and southwest part of Rheinland (making up much of today's Rheinland-Pfalz and Saarland) and still is! 2. Population is too interwoven. You can't break up the families just like that. (My family is spread over both sides - Brausch, Grenz, Baltes, Schwarz, Everhardy, Dockendorf, etc). 3. Economic ties are much deeper than you realize. 4. Printed History has consisently showed Trier to be part of both side for centuries. 5. Trier had been frequently listed as the place immigrants left for America even through they never lived there because Trier is a city close by enough to the villages they actually left. I found several cousins who thought it was Trier when it turned out to be Taben-Rodt, Hamm, Freudenburg, Mettlach, Merzig, Bitburg, Vianden, Remich, etc through Trier-Roots-L. Believe me I did run separately the list for Luxembourg and Rheinland before Maiser crash and consolidated after the move to Rootsweb for the obvious reasons. Separate and you get very very slow list. Common sense and wisdom dictate that Luxembourg, Saarland & Rheinland portion of Rheinland-Pfalz stay together. W. David Samuelsen, listowner

No. the eastern partition (Prussian Partition) was in 1815. Before that the area had been part of Luxembourg for centuries. W. David Samuelsen ROlson1062@aol.com wrote: > > I will sign up for it also. The reason I think is that Luxembourg is part of > the Trier list is because of its locality, and remember that until around 1830 > a great portion of the Kreis Bitburg area just north of Trier, was, in fact, > portion of the country of Luxembourg. > > Bob Olson > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

You've got my vote for a new list site. By the way Art, I've got a Nickels in my family tree, he married a Lieffrig in Colpach. Are you interested? This was in the 1780's. At 07:46 AM 3/16/99 -0700, Art Michaelis wrote: >Beats me, but it's a great idea. Why don't you start one up specifically for >Luxembourg? I'll sign up for it. > >Art Michaelis >Art@ArtMichaelis.com ><mailto:Art@ArtMichaelis.com> http://artmichaelis.com >On the lookout for: >MICHAELIS, ALLISON, HILER, PAWSON, ROSNER, >NEYEN, CHAPMEN, GARDNER, ASHBY, NICKELS, >BRANDENBOURG, McQUE, QUIGLEY, DUGAN & FRANCK. > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BSCHUETTER@aol.com [mailto:BSCHUETTER@aol.com] >> Sent: March 16, 1999 7:20 AM >> To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Why TRIER for LUXEMBOURG? >> >> >> Can anyone explain why Trier (in Germany) is the list site for research in >> Luxembourg? Was it ever part of Lux? Is there another site >> specifically for >> Lux research? Thanks. >> >> Bill Schuetter >> Orland Park, IL >> >> >> ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >> Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >> Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> >> >> > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > Richard L. Liffrig, 6329 Candle Rd. Bowlus, Mn. 56314 E-Mail: rliffrig@upstel.net http://www.upstel.net/~rliffrig/richard1.html Interest: Angus Beef, Rotational Grazing, Genealogy (Duchy of Luxembourg and Luxembourg Prov., Belgium)

Beats me, but it's a great idea. Why don't you start one up specifically for Luxembourg? I'll sign up for it. Art Michaelis Art@ArtMichaelis.com <mailto:Art@ArtMichaelis.com> http://artmichaelis.com On the lookout for: MICHAELIS, ALLISON, HILER, PAWSON, ROSNER, NEYEN, CHAPMEN, GARDNER, ASHBY, NICKELS, BRANDENBOURG, McQUE, QUIGLEY, DUGAN & FRANCK. > -----Original Message----- > From: BSCHUETTER@aol.com [mailto:BSCHUETTER@aol.com] > Sent: March 16, 1999 7:20 AM > To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Why TRIER for LUXEMBOURG? > > > Can anyone explain why Trier (in Germany) is the list site for research in > Luxembourg? Was it ever part of Lux? Is there another site > specifically for > Lux research? Thanks. > > Bill Schuetter > Orland Park, IL > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > >

> SCHMELTER; PRU,DEU; 1844 > Hallo friends! > I search information about this families. They shall lived in the > Munster-land: > > 1.) Marie, Auguste, Pauline Fichtner, geborene Rabast, genannt Vogt(Vogt > hieß ihr 2.Mann) > * 28.11.1867 in Schweidnitz/Schlesien > > 2) Albert, Robert, Wilhelm Petrausch, Müller, > * 13.02. 1885 in Goglau/Schlesien > > 3) August Schmelter, Schmiedemeister und Bauer in Lichnau > * 15.11.1844 in Zirkewitz/Westpreußen > > 4) Valentin Rolbiecki, Fuhrmann > * ?(Um 1850) in ? (Konitz oder Znabnow/Westpreußen ?) > > Thank you for help. > Arthur Bock > Mit freundlichem Gruß > Arthur Bock > > > > > > > >

Hello- With much thanks to Werner LicLichter, I have more information on John SCHNEIDER of Neidenbach. He was a stone mason, single, born 12/30/1857 emmigrated with permission of prussian goverment to North-America in spring 1880 (May-June). Now I need to know: what ship (no list I have found shows the ships that left Germany in 1880) Also anything about his parents, siblings, etc. Also am looking for information on ANNA GROSSBACH. She was from the same basic area but married John in the states. Jan Francis (janfrancis@aol.com)

I will sign up for it also. The reason I think is that Luxembourg is part of the Trier list is because of its locality, and remember that until around 1830 a great portion of the Kreis Bitburg area just north of Trier, was, in fact, portion of the country of Luxembourg. Bob Olson

Can anyone explain why Trier (in Germany) is the list site for research in Luxembourg? Was it ever part of Lux? Is there another site specifically for Lux research? Thanks. Bill Schuetter Orland Park, IL

There is also a book, "Gesicht und Geschichte Einer Hochwaldlandschaft by Walter Prum which does not have the genealogical format of Walter Petto's but is nice to read if you read German. It is also out of print as Petto's but you could try to see if it is on microfiche. (1978) -----Original Message----- From: TUCSONOMA@aol.com <TUCSONOMA@aol.com> To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Where is Zuesch? >Hi, >I am researching my ancestors in the Bosen/Soetern area and noticed that >reference is made to Zuesch as to their place of birth. I found 2 Zuesch >locations using mapquest, but both are in the Hessen or East of there. >Although it is possible that they migrated from there, I am more inclined to >believe that there is another Zuesch in the closer proximity since there is a >publication (FHL library catalog) that lists everybody living in Bosen and >Zuesch in 1574. >Any ideas? >Thanks so much, >Brigitte >I am researching BARTH, KORB, SCHUMANN, SPINDLER, ZUMBRO, among others > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hello I am wondering how to find information re: my ancestor who's name was Bernard Theobald he attended the university of Trier although I'm the family was from Metz France. I remember my Mother telling me that my grandfather fled to america with nothing but the clothes on his back . when due to political upheaval the Germans overtook the portion of France that they lived in and that they were forced to learn German and that even their names were changed (I presume to theobald) I think my Mother must have been confused because it is known that my ancestor was married and came to america with his wife and 7 children . My mother also stated they were born in Trier France and I don't think that is possible either since Trier is in Germany and it is known now that he attended the university there. Can anyone lead me in the right direction for locating his ancestors Patricia Perkins at caviness@abts.net

Hi Brigitte Zuesch (ZIP 54422) is 2 kilometers to the east from Hermeskeil an 8 kilometers nortwesterly from Soetern. Genealogy literature: Walter Petto "Einwohner von Zuesch, Neuhuetten, Dampflos 1574-1820", Saarbrücken 1985 518 S. und Bildteil http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/reg/SAA/saarland-d.html The book is to be bought no more. see LDS-Film: Germany, Prussian, Rhineland - Zuesch (FilmNr.1183703 item 16) Walter Petto "Immigrant Families from Zuesch Rhineland Germany to Bainbrigde Touwnship, Barrien County, Michigan, 1840 to 1887"., Saarbrücken 1995 117 S. Reiner Schmidt "Familienbuch der kath. Pfarrei St.Antonius Zuesch/Hochwald (Boerfink, Dampflos, Einschiederhof, Muhl, Neuhuetten, Zuesch) 1812 bis 1899". Neuhuetten 1993 584 Seiten Maschinenschrift Reiner Schmidt "evang. Pfarrei Zuesch 1825 - 1899", Neuhuetten 1993 240 Seiten. you can see in FHC the Film: evang. KB 1725 - 1798 (FilmNr. 0493235) kath. KB 1700 - 1892 : FilmNr. 0531295 FilmNr. 1336886 item 4 FilmNr. 0495118 alsdann, Wolfgang -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: TUCSONOMA@aol.com <TUCSONOMA@aol.com> An: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Datum: Sonntag, 14. März 1999 20:28 Betreff: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Where is Zuesch? >Hi, >I am researching my ancestors in the Bosen/Soetern area and noticed that >reference is made to Zuesch as to their place of birth. I found 2 Zuesch >locations using mapquest, but both are in the Hessen or East of there. >Although it is possible that they migrated from there, I am more inclined to >believe that there is another Zuesch in the closer proximity since there is a >publication (FHL library catalog) that lists everybody living in Bosen and >Zuesch in 1574. >Any ideas? >Thanks so much, >Brigitte >I am researching BARTH, KORB, SCHUMANN, SPINDLER, ZUMBRO, among others > >______________________________

Hello Brigitte, there is a new "Family-book Zuesch" near Hermeskeil, Rheinland-Pfalz from Herbert Schmitt. Nr. 47 Barth, Jakob married: febr./14./1848 Butterbach. Katharina-Elis. born: aug./23./1821 Zuesch born: dec./20.1818 Zuesch death: marc/29./1888 death: sept./28./1888 son of: Jakob Barth dau.of: Johann Butterbach and Maria Anna Boullion and Maria Kath. Petto children: * sept./23./1848 Elisabetha * apr./30./1851 Johann * may/21./1854 Peter married: Karoline Scherer * febr./04.1857 Johann (nach USA emigriert) * apr./19./1859 Margaretha married: Wilhelm Malburg * aug./03./1861 Katharina married: Peter Kolling Nr. 2257 Zumbro, Johann Karl married: apr./16./1835 Stephany, Maria born: aug./01./1802 Zuesch born: jan./18./1812 Nunkirchen death: may/04.1870 Zuesch death: jul./25./1844 Zuesch son of: Johann-Adam and dau.of: Friedrich Stephany Anna Maria Biry Katharina Bernardy Nr. 2258 Zumbro, Hermann-Karl-Peter oo mar./08.1858 Detemple, Maria born: jul./19.1834 Zuesch born: sept./05.1839 death: dec./28./1863 Zuesch dau.of: Peter Detemple son of: Johann and Kath. Geller and Elis. Butterbach Greetings Richard Schaffner

Jim Schiwal wrote: > Departing for the Banat, 15 June 1770 from Vienna, Austria: > Johann Schivell, 6 P, Steinhauer (stonecutter), aus Luxemburg > Valentin Schivell, 4 P, Maurer (stone mason), aus Luxemburg > > While I have more information on these two families after their arrival in > the Banat Hungarian villages of Neu-Arad & Gottlob, I am wondering if anyone > can tell me where to direct my query for more information on these families > in Luxembourg? Was there an immigration ledger maintained for families > departing Luxemburg? And can any of the list members tell me the best way > to narrow my search for these families in Luxembourg? I have SCHIWER,SCHIWELL in my genealogy.They came from Austria (Tirol)before 1760 and were stonecutter and stonemason. Under the reign of Maria-Theresia, many Austrians came to Luxembourg to work on churches etc. Please consult www.igd-leo.lu where you will find more information about the immigration from Austria and the emigration to the Banat. To my knowledge there are no immigration ledger for families departing Luxembourg. So you must find the villages where they lived and consult the parish records if they exist. Claude Loesch Luxembourg

Hello Fellow Researchers! I need any help I can get about where my grandfather & family left Germany from. My grandfather, HEINRICH GROENEWALD, left from Germany in 1881 and left Antwerp, Belgium on September 28th, 1881. He had his family with him: wife ANNA (maiden name not known), daughter ANNA MATILDA GROENEWALD (GRUNEWALD, a lot of different spellings), and another daughter by the name of MARGARET(not sure of the spelling). My big problem is that I don't know where or when he left Germany.. He was born in TILL-MOYLAND (Kreis KLEVE) but I think he might have left from somewhere else...He was listed as a miner in the ships passenger list...He may have departed from around OBERHAUSEN as I have heard my mother speak of Oberhausen when I was a child (1932 era). Are there any lists for this kind of thing? Jim Bollinger jimb@evcom.net ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Brother, Can you spare $10 for Rootsweb? Ask me why ... mailto:dsam@wasatch.com

List Members, Am new to the list and want to make sure I am where I should be for researching my family history. I have found the following entry in the Vienna Immigration Book (Banater Akten) for German colonists moving to the villages in the Banat region: Departing for the Banat, 15 June 1770 from Vienna, Austria: Johann Schivell, 6 P, Steinhauer (stonecutter), aus Luxemburg Valentin Schivell, 4 P, Maurer (stone mason), aus Luxemburg While I have more information on these two families after their arrival in the Banat Hungarian villages of Neu-Arad & Gottlob, I am wondering if anyone can tell me where to direct my query for more information on these families in Luxembourg? Was there an immigration ledger maintained for families departing Luxemburg? And can any of the list members tell me the best way to narrow my search for these families in Luxembourg? I was also wondering if any of the list member history buffs could tell me if any major Luxembourg churches, fortresses or city construction projects were completed around 1770. It seems odd that stone cutters and masons would depart for the Banat swampy farmland (without major stone quarries) unless work was unavailable at home. Jim Schiwal Douglasville

>Hi, >I am researching my ancestors in the Bosen/Soetern area and noticed that >reference is made to Zuesch as to their place of birth. I found 2 Zuesch >locations using mapquest, but both are in the Hessen or East of there. >Although it is possible that they migrated from there, I am more inclined to >believe that there is another Zuesch in the closer proximity since there is a >publication (FHL library catalog) that lists everybody living in Bosen and >Zuesch in 1574. >Any ideas? >Thanks so much, >Brigitte >I am researching BARTH, KORB, SCHUMANN, SPINDLER, ZUMBRO, among others Hi Brigitte, There is a very useful publication about families in Zuesch: Walter Petto, Einwohner von Zuesch, Neuhuetten, Damflos 1574-1820. (Mittelungen der Arbeitsgemeinschaft fuer Saarlaendische Familienkunde, 17. Sonderband) Saarbruecken 1985. I found about family ZUMBRO (stammt aus Graubuenden, Schweiz) Johann Valentin * um 1722 Soetern + 31.10.1781 Zuesch 12 children son: Johann Adam *25.05.1766 Zuesch +01.04.1823 Zuesch 9 children Hobe I could help, Norbert from Reutlingen/Germany

Hi Brigitte, Try <http://www.expediamaps.com>. There is also a Zeusch in Rheinland-Pfalz. Hope this helps. Patty Gaddis wgaddis@mediaone.net At 02:28 PM 3/14/99 EST, you wrote: >Hi, >I am researching my ancestors in the Bosen/Soetern area and noticed that >reference is made to Zuesch as to their place of birth. I found 2 Zuesch >locations using mapquest, but both are in the Hessen or East of there. >Although it is possible that they migrated from there, I am more inclined to >believe that there is another Zuesch in the closer proximity since there is a >publication (FHL library catalog) that lists everybody living in Bosen and >Zuesch in 1574. >Any ideas? >Thanks so much, >Brigitte >I am researching BARTH, KORB, SCHUMANN, SPINDLER, ZUMBRO, among others > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the >Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >

Hi, I am researching my ancestors in the Bosen/Soetern area and noticed that reference is made to Zuesch as to their place of birth. I found 2 Zuesch locations using mapquest, but both are in the Hessen or East of there. Although it is possible that they migrated from there, I am more inclined to believe that there is another Zuesch in the closer proximity since there is a publication (FHL library catalog) that lists everybody living in Bosen and Zuesch in 1574. Any ideas? Thanks so much, Brigitte I am researching BARTH, KORB, SCHUMANN, SPINDLER, ZUMBRO, among others

Thanks to all that responded to my information on Werden, Rheinland. There were so many replies It seems that the one near Essen may be the one although a Weiden in Rheinland -Pfaltz could be. Now it is up to me to continue my family's migration. Sometimes the spellings are wrong in records. Herb