Looking for the country of origin for the family name of SCHADECK / SHADECK. Four brothers and some sisters came to US in 1880's. MY ggf told fibs about where he was born. Sometimes he said Luxembourg, sometimes Trier, sometimes Saarbrucken. Anyone ever hear of that name?? Louise S. Novello Northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

> Kathy: Thank you for the information. I am going to have to check the records at the FHC soon. Thanks again. Mary > ================================ > Mary, > I currently have the microfilm of the church records for Schoendorf (which > covers Ollmuth) checked out at the FHC. Although the film I have covers > only ~1790-1886, > I have seen the names PLUNIEN, HERMSDORF, HILGERT, JAECKELS and BACKES > throughout the records. I believe the FHC has another film with earlier > dates. > Hope this helps, > Kathy Lenerz

Mary, I currently have the microfilm of the church records for Schoendorf (which covers Ollmuth) checked out at the FHC. Although the film I have covers only ~1790-1886, I have seen the names PLUNIEN, HERMSDORF, HILGERT, JAECKELS and BACKES throughout the records. I believe the FHC has another film with earlier dates. Hope this helps, Kathy Lenerz > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V99 #207 > Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:37:11 -0700 > From: Rick and Mary Thrasher <thrashin@west.net> > To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > > Hello everyone! > > Just thought I would post my names, as I have discovered more with the help of my > "FOLs". (That's "Friends on Lists".) I could not do this without you people--and > you know who you are!! > > HENTER 175? KRETTNACH > PLUNIEN 1782 KRETTNACH > HERMSDORF 176? OLMUTH > HILGERT 178? OLMUTH > ADAMS 1774 BEUREN > JAECKELS 17?? HINZENBURG > WIRTZ 1833 HEDDERT > BACKES 18?? HEDDERT > JUNKERSFELD 1849 NEUNKIRCHEN/SIEGERLAND > OBERBUSCH 1847 SCHLEBUSCH > > Thank you for your time! > > Mary Wurtz Thrasher > CA/USA

> Joan Schneider Born > > Researching Surnames: TURBES, ROSS, GROSJEAN, > CHRISTEN, BORN, HUNA, HERRMAN, BENESCH, SCHNEIDER, > LIEBL, YOUNG (YUNGOVA), LENG, MURGES, LAMBY, KNOTT, DROMMER, > KLINKERS, HUPERTZ, HAMMES, BRAND > >

--part1_db7d7885.24bbc81c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kay, we have a number of Margaret Schutz's in our tree. My great-grandfather Mathias Schutz, had a sister Margaret Schutz born 1/1851. I believe she married a Marlin STEFFANS. Their parents Johann SCHUTZ and Catharina REINERT. Mathias married Margaret KOTZ. They had a daughter Margaret SCHUTZ born 7/6/1876. She married Jacob WINTERSDORF. Are you from the missing Wintersdorf family which moved to Indiana? Many living family members remember visits to Indiana. Lauri --part1_db7d7885.24bbc81c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: KMW328@aol.com From: KMW328@aol.com Full-name: KMW328 Message-ID: <db7d7885.24bb4cf7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:51:51 EDT Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] GARD/SCHUTZ/REINERT/BEITZEL To: Draniczl@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Dear Lauri, Your entry in the Trier-Roots list caught my eye because of the many names we have in common. My great grandmother was born Margaret SCHUETZ. I have relatives who were members of both St Joseph's in Wilmette and St Michael's in Chicago. They were SCHUETZ, BALMES, GEMSKIE family members, among others. Someone in my extended family married BORRE. And finally, I have ancestors who lived in Nonnweiler. I'm wondering if there is more than a coincidental connection between our families. If you would like to pursue this possible connection, please email me. In the meantime, I will refresh my mind on this branch of my family by reviewing my notebooks on them. Then I will be able to be more specific on the possible relationship. I hope to hear from you. Kay Meehan Waterloo Greenwood, Indiana --part1_db7d7885.24bbc81c_boundary--

Hello everyone! Just thought I would post my names, as I have discovered more with the help of my "FOLs". (That's "Friends on Lists".) I could not do this without you people--and you know who you are!! HENTER 175? KRETTNACH PLUNIEN 1782 KRETTNACH HERMSDORF 176? OLMUTH HILGERT 178? OLMUTH ADAMS 1774 BEUREN JAECKELS 17?? HINZENBURG WIRTZ 1833 HEDDERT BACKES 18?? HEDDERT JUNKERSFELD 1849 NEUNKIRCHEN/SIEGERLAND OBERBUSCH 1847 SCHLEBUSCH Thank you for your time! Mary Wurtz Thrasher CA/USA

Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Beringen, Luxembourg or Beringen, Lothringen Daldalte: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 22:58:49 -0400 From: "schiwalj" <schiwalj@inetnow.net> To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com There is a very small village named Biringen located along the Germany - France border, in Germany. The name DOLWET is found in the area. The French town of Waldwisse is nearby.

-->>>>>>> Next Section <<<<<<< Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Jay: My family also connected to these names in Trier....and in Chicago....Who are you specifically looking for.....Osburg films at my FHC indefinitely. Chris Swoboda, McHenry, Ill.

Karen, while researching my family (SCHUTZ, REINERT, BEITZEL) in Wilmette (St. Joseph's) and Chicago (St. Michael's, St. Alphonsus), I found a Mary GARD. However this GARD is from St. Joseph's in Wilmette. Here's the info I have is on a Mary GARD: daughter of Wilhelm Gard and Catharine. Mary married a John BORRE in February 1829 in Nonnweiler, Germany. Mary's daughter married a REINERT. Lauri

Hi: I have a 1781 map of the region. In looking at what would be the old "Prevoste de Thionville", i.e., a province that is now modern-day France, bordering the southeasternmost area of the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg: I find ANOTHER Beringen/Bertrange (in other words, I am not talking about anything by that name which would be in today's Grand Duchy of Luxembourg). I see that several village names are repeated from Grand Duchy (such as Illingen). This village would be just northeast of Richemont, on the other side of the Moselle River. Don't know if this helps. Regards, Melissa (Source: LeDuche de Luxembourg, Divise en Quartier Walon, et Allemand, 1781, Paris)

List Members, The Habsburg's Vienna Emigration Registry 15 May 1770 entry lists my gggggrandfather, Nicolaus Dolvik, as originating in Boringen, Lorraine. So here is my problem. I need a bit of help determining if the current Beringen, Luxembourg may have been part of Lorraine in 1770 and the city referenced in the emigration registry. Careful search of the Lorraine area maps of the time shows no Boringen or any city by that exact name and the LDS FHCs have no church registry information listed under that name either. However, because Lothringen extended into present day Luxembourg in 1770 and Lothringen would have encompassed Beringen within its 1770 boundaries, is "Beringen" the most likely candidate for Nicolaus Dolvik's research studies? Or am I missing a Boringen, Lothringen which may have disappeared since the 1770 registry entry? Jim Schiwal Douglasville, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <twboyle@uss.com> To: < > Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 1:28 PM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Berus, Saarland > Is anyone researching this town, particularly the surname NENO (NENNO), > from around 1800-1830? > > thanks, > > Tim Boyle > > ______________________________

Hi Jay, In particular, which Michels and which Feller? Both names are connected to my family in Osburg. There are Feller in Chicago, along with the Gards, Resch, Meyer and Neufing families. Peter Feller and Margaretha Gard were Godparents at the baptism of Peter Neifing in 1901 at St. Michaels Parrish in Chicago. Three of the parrishes a majority of my family were found, were St. Michael's, St. Joseph's on Cleveland, and St. Boniface. There are several people on this list whose families are from the Osburg Parrish, so you may be able to find other connecting familes to yours, pretty easily. I've also found my family in the surrounding parrishes of Reinsfeld, Schillingen, Farschweiler, Zuesch and Irsch, along with others...... I currently have the Osburg andmicrofilm at my FHC. If you would tell me names and dates I would be happy to look for you. Just quickly looking in my files I found the following: Peter Feller of Osburg married to Anna Meyer of Thomm, child is Carolus Nicolaus Feller b. Oct. 12, 1899 Illinois. Anna Feller of Osburg married to Mathias Steinbach of Osburg, January 22, 1874 in Osburg child is Anna Steinbach b. May 10, 1876. Nicolas Michels married Margaretha Neufing March 11, 1882 in Osburg. Johannes Feller married Catharina Michels in Osburg, Anna Feller b. 1882 Osburg. I would be happy to send you all the names I currently have in my files. Karen Adams, Seattle

Would like to hear from anyone with information about BETTAG family from Dudenhofen (Bavaria) Germany: I am searching kate BETTAG that married Jacob MITTELBUEHLER from Mariah Hill Spencer co. Jacob was my GGrandmothers 2'nd husband. She was Thereasa DEMUTH also from Spencer co.Any connections. Carl DEMuth

Looking for anyone researching or having information on the FELLER and MICHELS families if the Osburg area. Jay Wilpolt San Diego

Is anyone researching this town, particularly the surname NENO (NENNO), from around 1800-1830? thanks, Tim Boyle

Would like to hear from anyone with information about BETTAG family from Dudenhofen (Bavaria) Germany: John Martin BETTAG, b. 7 Apr 1807, Dudenhofen (Bavaria) Germany; married 22 May 1834 in Dudenhofen, to Helena KELLER. They emigrated to Mariah Hill (Spencer County) Indiana, USA ca. 1845. His parents were: John BETTAG, b. ca. 1770, in Dudenhofen, and Maria Sabina REEB, b. 10 Oct 1776, in Dudenhofen. His parents were: Conrad BETTAG and Elizabeth SCHAFFER, both of Dudenhofen. If possible, would like to find out if there are still BETTAGs living in Dudenhofen who are descended from John Martin BETTAG. Thank you, in advance. Claire Bettag

MLWisc@aol.com wrote: > > Elanor: I think between 1815 and 1839 > it was that The Province of Luxembourg lands were split off from the Grand > Duchy lands and given to Belgium.) The part that became the province of Luxembourg, Belgium was split in Third Partition, 1839 in the First Treaty of London. French-speaking western part became Belgian province of Luxembourg. Belgium had made two attempts later on to try to annex the rest of Luxembourg but were thwarted by the 1867 Second Treaty of London recognizing independence of Luxembourg. From 1839 until 1867 the Prussians maintained a garrison for the Dutch King then. Belgium tried to claim Luxembourg in 1918-1919 at the peace conference of Versailles. Two American divisions occupied Grand Duchy in the meanwhile to guard Luxembourg's independence. W. David Samuelsen

In a message dated 7/7/99 8:28:24 PM Central Daylight Time, TRIER-ROOTS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << X-Message: #1 Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 08:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: nmb1866@webtv.net (N. Backus) To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <11350-378347C4-318@postoffice-263.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: BAKEIS-Vance, Lxembourg Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hi, I am new to this list, just having found info stating my gggrandfather PIERRE BAKEIS and his brother, JOSEPH BAKEIS were born in Vance, Province of Luxembourg. This info was NOT from offical source, so I would like to follow upon this. I am completely new at searching Luxembourg, nor do I understand the history of the area. My line came to USA about 1850 (-/+). Any suggestions has to (1) short history book on Luxembourg (2) genealogical resources, would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance, Eleanor >> Elanor: From one Gutland Luxembourg descendant to a Belgic Luxembourg descendant, here's the best web site on the net for Luxembourg: http://www.igd-leo.lu/ I have many, many more, too. But I think you need to look at Belgium, so here is the Benelux webring site: http://start.at/benelux (YOUR FAMILY IS FROM BELGIUM---THE PROVINCE OF LUX IN BELGIUM. THEIR NAME WOULD SEEM TO FIT, TOO. SO, YOU MUST KNOW YOUR HISTORY. THIS WEB SITE WILL HELP. BUT YOU SHOULD FIND BENELUX WEB SITES. I think between 1815 and 1839 it was that The Province of Luxembourg lands were split off from the Grand Duchy lands and given to Belgium.) HERE ARE SOME MORE WEB SITES--NOTE: YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HYPERLINK AROUND A LITTLE: http://www.igd-leo.lu/igd-leo/ties/emi.html --this is about immigration http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cabana/8293/english.html --this is a web ring for luxembourg http://www.europeonline.com/lux/provider/lonline/wort/ak/fa1ak01.htm --this is a European portal to the Internet site http://www.ping.be/picavet/Waas_America_Travel02.shtml#Ships1860 ---a site of passenger lists for people emigrating from Belgium---you should look up these ports: Antwerp, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, LeHavre. http://www.nagara.org/clearinghouse/summer_97/kemp.html ---lists the best websites for helping genealogists http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm#Lists ---Cyndie's lists of passenger ships and immigrations Best wishes, Melissa

hi Richard - I used to have a book on the surnames but that had to be returned to the library -- check out a book by NICHOLAS GONNEr - luxembourgers to the new world - volume I & II; II has the surnames in it with the dates in the luxembourg guzette -- volume I has all of history of luxembourg in it -- it is a very good book - i got both of these books through an inter-library loan good luck brenda