Hello listers, I need your help with an emigration question.I have two brothers who left Bitburg for the USA. Johann Ludwig Mayer(Meijer) b: 22 Dec 1860,Bitburg left for USA(Chicago): 5 Aug 1882. I cannot find him on a ship. Looked in Filby's to no avail. The brother, Paul Meyer(Maijer)b: 11 Sep 1868, Bitburg, followed Ludwig on 1886.He left according to Filby's from Antwerp on the Westernland. I have not been able to find the "Westernland". Any help with this will be appreciated. Marianne

Thanks to everyone who has offered help in finding Fellan and Beckerie. Beckerie is probably same as Beckerich. Fellan is a little more difficult, but I do now have general location. Thanks again JoAnn California

To Keith: Regarding the Loesch family and Uchtelfangen: What a coincidence! I have films from Illingen, Gennweiler and Uchtelfangen on permanent loan at the FHL on Slate Run Rd. I am also researching Catholic families from that area that immigrated to Southern Indiana. The Loesch family is connected to my Renn and Engle lines from St Joe Hill. The Church in Illingen (very near Uchtelfangen) is St Stephan. I have pictures of the Church as one of my Renn relatives visited there last year and a Popp relation was there this past summer. I will try to contact with more later. Diane Murphy, Louisville, KY DZMroots@aol.com

How could I find names of Johann Nicholaus Wagner's siblings, from Burbach (near Saarbrucken)? His parents were Heinrich Wagner and Dorothea Bickelmann. Johann Nicholas Wagner was born 15 Mai 1814. Johann Nicholaus Wagner immigrated to America approximately 1833. I would be most interested in who immigrated with him. Are there records of who left cities like Burbach? Who should I contact? Thank you so much for any assistance. Mary Sharrard Johnson Mary Sharrard Johnson & Ronn Johnson msjohnson@idnsi.net

Hi, My Luxembourg ancestors were Schroeder and Loutsch from Grand Duche, Treinen from Fellan, and Hansen from Tier. I purchased an atlas for Europe, but it doesn't have Fellan or Beckerie, any suggestions? JoAnn

Dear Mr. Osterbeck, as a volunteer of this list I will take two phonecalls to get the info you need. I am living here in Germany and about 300 miles south of Westfalen region. Perhaps you can give me the names and birthdates of your ancestors ? sincerely Werner in Germany ############# Richard Osterbeck schrieb: > > Recently received info that my family came from Voellinghausen. > Apparently there are 2 of these. V"ollinghausen, Kreis Lippstadt, > Westfalen, now part of D-59597 Erwitte and V"ollinghausen, Kreis Soest, > Westfalen, now part of D-59519 M"ohnesee. How do I find out which place > they left in Sept. of 1850 or how to get records from there? > Jan O > bro16@worldnet.att.net > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Sister or Brother > Can you spare $10 for Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Recently received info that my family came from Voellinghausen. Apparently there are 2 of these. V"ollinghausen, Kreis Lippstadt, Westfalen, now part of D-59597 Erwitte and V"ollinghausen, Kreis Soest, Westfalen, now part of D-59519 M"ohnesee. How do I find out which place they left in Sept. of 1850 or how to get records from there? Jan O bro16@worldnet.att.net

I recently found a genealogical researcher who does work in the Rheinland-Pfalz area. He found three generations of my family, replete with birth certificates, marriage and death certificates. Also found the cemetery in which they were buried and sent me photos. Although he is german, he communicates quite well. Initially he did, at no charge, a preliminary search to determine what might be available and where. He gave me an estimate as to the time he thought he might require to do the search. After the initial search I asked him to secure additional records. He kept me informed by email as to what he was doing and what he had found. He is quite nice to work with and very honest and hard working. If anyone is interested in securing the services of a researcher in this area, please contact me at Aparkplace@aol.com. Barbara

Michael; You already got the info on the parish records from another response to your query. Here is a little more info. The Catholic Church in Uchtelfangen is St. Josef. It is a huge church and I honestly believe that everyone in that village can fit in it at one time. Of course, it serves several villages to the north which are a part of the parish. I will send you an email with an attachment color photo of the church taken in June of last year. If you find ancestors there that go back to the beginning of those in the St. Josef parish records, next try St. Stephen Church in Illingen. It is much older than St. Josef and the parish of St. Josef was formed from part of St. Stephen in about 1745 so your earlier ancestors who lived in the Uchtelfangen area probably went to church at St. Stephen prior to about 1745. Incidently, to say that St. Stephen is much older than St. Josef is an understatement. It dates to the 13th century and is built on the site of a Roman temple. Some of the old sculptured Roman stones are incorporated into the church construction. Registres paroissiaux, Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1686-1754 VAULT INTL Film 625602 Vince Falter

Hello, I am gathering information on the MADERT branch of my family. One of them, Jacob MADERT (born 14-11-1833, Mehring -area of Trier-) emigrated to the US in 1850 with a friend Johann Regneri and his little sister Anna Maria. I would like to find the port from which these people sailed to the US? the ship? other people from Mehring or Trier? Maybe some has information about this emigration, or can me told the process to do the research. Many thanks, best regards, Jean-Jacques

I am looking for the family and history of my GreatGrandparents Peter Loesch and Ann Mary Loesch (Anne Marie). There graves are located at St Mary's of the Knobs in Floyd Knobs, Indiana USA ( a suburb of Louisville, Ky USA). Next to their marker is another marker that has the following inscription Katherin efrau von Johonnes Loasch Geb. In Uchtelfangem. Den 8 Dec 1801 Gest Den 29 apr 1875, I believe this is Peter's sister, but have not proven it. The 1850 Censes has a Catherine Loesch as housekeeper and sister to Peter. >From help from other listers I believe the town or village they are from is Uchtelfangen, Saarland, Germany. Can anyone tell me if there is a Catholic Church there or where the people from that town might go to church? Where else might I get information? Keith Kurtz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for information on John Micheal Troutman, Peter Troutman and there supposed father John Leonard Troutman they imigrated from the "Palitines" in the mid to late 1700 to PA then to Fredrick County, MD, and then to very Early Nelson County KY, (Actually at that time it was still Virginia). Also Looking for Conrad Kurtz (Curts) that also imigrated to the same area of Virgina (Kentucky) at about the same time, but we are not sure of his route, but assume it was the same as most Germans at this time. Keith Kurtz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

I am looking for the family and history of my GreatGrandparents Peter Loesch and Ann Mary Loesch (Anne Marie). There graves are located at St Mary's of the Knobs in Floyd Knobs, Indiana USA ( a suburb of Louisville, Ky USA). Next to their marker is another marker that has the following inscription Katherin efrau von Johonnes Loasch Geb. In Uchtelfangem. Den 8 Dec 1801 Gest Den 29 apr 1875, I believe this is Peter's sister, but have not proven it. The 1850 Censes has a Catherine Loesch as housekeeper and sister to Peter. >From help from other listers I believe the town or village they are from is Uchtelfangen, Saarland, Germany. Can anyone tell me if there is a Catholic Church there or where the people from that town might go to church? Where else might I get information? Keith Kurtz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Jan, Your problem sounds a lot like mine. As I've been searching I came across some books to check at the FHL. I haven't looked for them yet but maybe somebody else out there has. They are: Bahlow's Nammenlexikon and Hamburg - Police Records of Passport Applications in German it's Reisepass Protokolle (1851 -1929). In the lexicon you can find the location of surnames if I understand it correctly. Hope this helps. Ann

Help! I cannot seem to find the information I need. I located my ggrandfather's naturalization papers but not his intent to naturalize. The papers do not give any information about him. I have not been able to find his ship, where he went once he arrived in North America where he met his wife, or anything else until he had his second child in Iron Mt, MI. He supposedly left Germany in 1880 but does not resurface until 1889. He naturalized in 1898 in Morrison Co. MN where he had children 4-10. He is not on any 1880 census that I could find, he is not in the Germanys to America books or the Hamburg to America films that I looked at, I am desparate. Any suggestions would be welcome. Jan

Hello out there, had anyone seen the book Emigration records from the Eifel Region 1834-1911 by Hanns Egon Freund?? I am wondering if it is worth ordering. Jan

GRAUS, KRAUS, HELFEN, NIESSEN, SCHNEIDER, VOLKNER, BODEN, SCHULGEN, SCHAEFER, THIELEN, SPRENGART, KUNZMANN, SCHOENFELDER, SCHÖNFELDER Germany: Trier, Merzig, Saarburg, Brotdorf, Losheim... and? Germany, Spain, USA, Banat, Siebenbürgen, Neu-Beschenowa, Rumania, Austria- Hungary, EASTERN EUROPE ... and? *** Looking also for a SCHWARTZ family: Four brothers left around 1870 Germany (Romania) changed names and emigrated to the USA! *** Looking also for: BLINN, BLEYER, SCHOENHEIM, WEBER Germany, Switzerland, France / Huguenots? Palatine? Brigitte Ruth GRAUS Saarbrücken, Germany fszusfg@rz.uni-sb.de

I am looking for information on GRAUS coming from Brotdorf, Losheim. >Suche GRAUS aus Brotdorf, Losheim< Brigitte Ruth GRAUS Saarbrücken, Germany fszusfg@rz.uni-sb.de

To: Karl-Heinz Bernardy, Koblenz, Germany From: Darby Chiles, Upland, California, USA Dear Karl, I am having great difficulty locating information about my great grandfather, who immigrated to the USA in the nineteenth century. I am wondering if you might have any ideas which could be helpful since I note that you live in Koblenz, the very geographic region which I am struggling. I would appreciate any thoughts for research which might occur to you based upon my rather sketchy information. Thank you for reading this e-mail and for what ever response you may feel is appropriate. Sincerely, Darby Chiles The following hand written information was copied by Inez McKnight Fitzpatrick on 14 May 1950 directly from The Old Coblenz Bible: "John Coblenz born at Berncastel in Rhenish Prussia, Europe, September 28, 1818 and married to Ann Fitzpatrick, born at Dublin, Ireland in Europe, August 18, 1834 married, March 8, 1852 by Rev. Ticknor, at Livingston, Sumter County, Alabama Anna Maria Coblenz mother of John Coblenz died Trinity Sunday June 1, 1860 aged 72 years Christopher Fitzpatrick father of Mrs. Coblenz died October 24, 1865 aged 64 yrs & 10 months" And my further notes which seem accurate, to the best of my ability: Berncastel was and is a small town in the rich wine growing valley of the Moselle River and is located about twenty miles from the border of Luxembourg and France to the west and about 40 miles from Coblenz, Germany to the east. Coblenz is located at the "confluence" or where the Moselle River flows into the Rhine River and is the origin of the name of the town, Coblenz in the German or Confluentes in the French language. Coblenz is just upstream from the well known bridge of Remagen over the Rhine River where the American Army was the first of the allies to actually enter the country of Germany during World War II. A great grandson of John Coblenz, Frank Rogers Chiles, was in the U. S. Army during that war and was killed in The Battle of The Bulge in 1945. Frank is buried in a military cemetery at Aachen, Germany. It is interesting to note that Frank was buried in 1945, just a few miles from where his great grandfather was born in 1818. It is highly unlikely that Frank even knew the name or the birthplace of his great grandfather, but I guess that he did sort of finally come home. The Empire of France extended as far east as Coblenz until the defeat of Napoleon around 1814 when the city of Coblenz became part of Prussia. I can't help but wonder if the turmoil of the war may have had something to do with the family emigrating at that time. The sound of the name of John's mother (Anna Maria) may also suggest a French influence but informal local Alabama history refers to John Coblenz as German. The name of the town is handwritten and spelled "Berncastel" in The Old Coblenz Bible, not the German spelling of "Bernkastel". Other family records use what may be a more French like spelling of the family name "Coblens". The family name, when spelled "Coblenz", is a form frequently used by the Amish. "Koblenz" is the more typical spelling in the German language. Historians claim European Jews would frequently insert a "t" before the last letter in their family name, symbolizing the Catholic cross, as a means of helping to avoid persecution. The spelling of Coblentz is used on the marriage licenses of both Anne [marriage (2) to Stephen Basson] and Mollie to Frank Chiles. Or it may be simply a series of misspellings of the family name. John Coblenz, was killed while defending the home of a friend against a post war mob of political "night riders". While searching for more details about what has been called The Coblenz Incident, I was fortunate to meet a local historian and long time resident of Sumter County who worked at the Sumter County Courthouse for many years. She graciously spent considerable time with me at the Julia Tutwiler Library while she recalled so much specific and detailed information about the Coblenz Incident. She said the killing occurred in the front room of what is now known as The Yarborough House, which is still standing nearby and just to the west of her present home, in Emelle, Alabama. The intruders broke through the front door of the house and John blasted the first men through the doorway with a double barreled shotgun. Before John had time to reload, the next men through the door shot and killed John. The story about when and where John Coblenz was killed seems to have been told in many different ways by different people over the years following his death. Variations in the story about what has become known as The Coblenz Incident seem to have proliferated and many versions have been told to make whatever political point was desired at the time of telling. It is reasonably certain that John was shot and killed while defending the home of a friend against a mob of "night riders" on the night of 13 Aug 1869. The story has been told and retold many times by people claiming the killing occurred in a number of different locations and circumstances. It was a political event involving even the state legislature. Even intentionally misleading newspaper accounts were printed. One account claims the Smith Flats Section in the town of Livingston may be the location. The Coblenz Incident has been said to have been a water shed political event in the rough and tumble of The Reconstruction Period in Sumter County, Alabama, following The War for Southern Independence. I have searched extensively and found many comments claiming various occupations and social status for John Coblenz, but found no negative allegations about the man, by anyone, regarding his activities preceding the killing. Perhaps he was a peaceable man who just happened to be in the wrong place.

I am new to this site. My great grandfather, Johann Herres, was born in Witlitch. I am trying to find any records of him and his family. Suggestions and help greatly appriciated. Thanks