interesting word because it is not listed in my comphrensive German dictionary either but sound like incomplete address and unable to deliver - OR - not recognizable by household and returned to sender. W. David Samuelsen Janfrancis@aol.com wrote: > > Werner, I finally sent a letter to 10 Germans with the same last name as my > ggrandmother (Grossbach) from the list you gave me... 6 of the 10 have been > returned with a box checked off that has the word inconnu next to it. I > cannot find that word in my German to English dictionary. Any ideas what > went wrong? Any suggestions on what I should do next? Now what??????? Jan > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb! Help provide FREE genealogical resources on the > Internet: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hello to Mr. Samuelsen and other listers, I'd like to send a special THANKS to all who tried to help expecially those who solved my puzzle. The word in front of the box is the German word "Unbekannt" but immediately after the box is the word "Inconnu" which is French for unknown as in not known at this address. I am language disabled and missed the first word completely. Do I feel dumb!! Thanks to everyone for trying to help. Jan

In a message dated 9/13/99 1:09:08 PM, JoeyLibby@aol.com writes: << < > Werner, I finally sent a letter to 10 Germans with the same last name as my > ggrandmother (Grossbach) from the list you gave me... 6 of the 10 have been > returned with a box checked off that has the word inconnu next to it. I > cannot find that word in my German to English dictionary. Any ideas what > went wrong? Any suggestions on what I should do next? Now what??????? Jan >> >> ----- Hello, everyone, The word inconnu is French for 'unknown'! Best wishes, Chanda Seibert Blitch Hickory, NC, USA

I wonder if the word could be scanned and sent to me as an image file. People often wrestle with German script and, at first thought, I wondered if it could have been the word "unbetannt", especially since it next to a check mark box. << > Werner, I finally sent a letter to 10 Germans with the same last name as my > ggrandmother (Grossbach) from the list you gave me... 6 of the 10 have been > returned with a box checked off that has the word inconnu next to it. I > cannot find that word in my German to English dictionary. Any ideas what > went wrong? Any suggestions on what I should do next? Now what??????? Jan >>

13 Sep 99 - hello - I'm a newcomer to the "list". Am researching Elizabeth Schiltz, born 1830 Ecternacht, Luxembourg and Peter S. Weyrens (Weirens) born 1829 Osweiler. They (my great-grands) married 12 Feb. 1856 in Osweiler - emigrated to Cold Spring, MN, 1867. Are there books telling the history of these two towns, or ways to access the birth records of those towns? thanks - Carol

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Werner, I finally sent a letter to 10 Germans with the same last name as my ggrandmother (Grossbach) from the list you gave me... 6 of the 10 have been returned with a box checked off that has the word inconnu next to it. I cannot find that word in my German to English dictionary. Any ideas what went wrong? Any suggestions on what I should do next? Now what??????? Jan

Hello Fellow genealogists: I need help desparately. I am seeking information on the following ancestors: Michael Grossbach married Clara Hoe (both born in Germany) Children: Anna b. 1867 in Germany, m. John Schneider in US Emma b. in Germany m. ? Schaffer in US Emigrated to Michigan, US 1882. Alternate spellings of GROSSBACH are GROSSBAUCH/ GROSSBUSH/ GROSSBECK researching: GROSSBACH, GUTZMER, HOE, KUSKE, LEISTIKOW, SCHNEIDER, STAPLES, ZABEL, BROWN, FRANCIS, JOHNSTON, MCDONALD, PERRY, SPLAN, WARD, WAYBRANT

Dear Arlene, For what it's worth, a check of the Michelin map (#417, Mitte-West Deutschland) of central west Germany reveals an area called SINDFELD, located northwest of Kassell and due south of Paderborn, but this is a rather long way from Trier. Still, it's something to check out. Best wishes, Chanda Seibert Blitch North Carolina, USA

Phil, Remich is definitely a town and WINTRANGE is a village nearby, between Remich and another small town called Remerschen. As Remich and Remerschen, Wintrange is located on the Moselle river and the whole region is famous for its vineyards. If people say the come from Wintrange, Remich, they mean Wintrange, near Remich. I have no idea what this book is all about - just saw the link. If the authors state that the book is about Remich genealogy, Wintrange genealogy is likely to be excluded, but I suggest you contact the authors and ask them your question. Marc Lecuit Grand Duché de Luxembourg marc.lecuit@perceval.lu

I looked at the information for the book Familienchronik Stadt Remich mentioned. What type of information is presented in this book. Is it just names or does it include dates of birth, death, marriage? I am confused about something. Is Remich a city/town or is it a county? My gg-grandparents Jacob Bernardy (born 1805) and Marguarite Senninger (born 1804) were from Wintrange, Remich, Luxembourg. Is Wintrange a village? Would they be included in this book? Phil Pichotta pichotta@megsinet.net -----Original Message----- From: Marc Lecuit <marc.lecuit@perceval.lu> To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 4:47 PM Subject: Fw: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: REMICH, LUXEMBURG ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Lecuit <marc.lecuit@perceval.lu> To: <pbwilber@execpc.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: REMICH, LUXEMBURG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid <pbwilber@execpc.com> > To: <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 3:16 PM > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: REMICH, LUXEMBURG > > > > Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid wrote: > > > > > > This town is just across the Mosel from Nennig, Germany. > > > > > > Does anyone have any information on REMICH. Would like the name of the > > > Catholic church and a contact person there. Is there an active > > > genealogist in that area? > > > > > > Thanks much > > > Paul > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? > > send your message to Trier-L-request@rootsweb.com > > subject line: unsubscribe > > > > Bonnie, Paul, > > You should take a look a these sites: > > http://www.igd-leo.lu/igd-leo/pub/remich.html > http://www.communes-g1.lu/remich/perlemos.htm > http://www.ltam.lu/CJR/Remich/Remich.htm > > Marc Lecuit > Grand Duché de Luxembourg > marc.lecuit@perceval.lu > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Sister or Brother Can you spare $10 for Rootsweb? http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Werner, My family is from the Echtnernacht region of Luxembourg with the exception of my great grandfather who came from Trier. (immigrated about 1870). His wife, my great grandmother had always said that she was from Sensfeld. We have never been able to locate such a town or village. I thought she might have meant Sinspelt which is near Bitburg but have searched the records there with no luck. Do you know of any town of village in your area that she might have been talking about. Thank you. arlene shoemaker

Thought I'd give some more information on this book for anyone who might be able to purchase it for Joanne. I have received a copy from a elderly relative in Germany, but he had to go quite a distance to buy it for me. (And, has already gone twice now, because the US Postal Service lost the first copy for us!) >From the inside front cover of the book is: Kulturgeschichtlicher Verein Hochwald e.V. Eine Dokumentation in Bild und Schrift Bearbeitet von Kurt Bach, Josef Breit, Walter Freis, Diethelm Pruemm, Edmund Schoemer Texte: Kurt Bach, Edmund Schoemer Historische Recherche: Edmund Schoemer Herausgegeben im Auftrag der Verbandsgemeinde Thalfang am Erbeskopf, 1996 ISBN 3-00-001083-1 IMPRESSUM: Herausgegeben im Auftrag der Verbandsgemeinde Thalfang am Erbeskopf 1. Auglage 1996 2. Auglage 1998 Alle rechte bei: Kulturgeschichtlicher Verein Hochwald e.V. Bildnachweis: Archiv der Verbandsgemeinde Thalfang am Erbeskopf Archiv des Kulturgeschichtlichen Vereins Hochwald Hochwaldmuseum Hermeskeil Landesbildstelle Rheinland-Pflaz Zahlreiche Privatpersonen, die nicht alle hier einzeln aufgefuehrt werden koennen Umschlaggestaltung:Franz Raabe, Trier Karte von 1566, Arnold Mercator, Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin Preussischer Kulturbesitz Layout und Druck: Hermeskeiler Druckerei GmbH, 54411 Hermeskeil I believe he purchased it from the town hall in Thalfang. I would have to check on that. He does not have e-mail so it could be a while. It is a wonderful book. It is in German and has a few paragraphs about each of the towns listed and then lots of pictures of each town now and in the past. I just checked amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com and borders.com and none have it available. Maybe someone else knows of somewhere else to find it. Patty Gaddis (Lofi) wgaddis@mediaone.net With family from many of the small towns in the book. As a matter of fact, one of our Lofi houses is pictured in the book in Malborn, although it is not documented as such. There is another house behind the church built by my family c. 1865. We have just found out this information in the last few weeks. If there is anyone with knowledge of the town of Malborn that might be able to provide more info on the houses in town I would greatly appreciate it. At 11:17 AM 9/12/99 -0700, you wrote: >Can someone on the list tell me how to purchase this book: > >"Die Verbandsgemeinde Thalfang am Erbeskopf" - ISBN 3-00-00183-1. Published >about 1998. No author (I don't think) but was compiled by a group of people >in the area of Thalfang. > >Any help here would be appreciated!! > >Thanks, > >Joanne > >Joanne A. Smith Mello >jomello@innercite.com > > >==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation longer than 4 days? >send your message to Trier-L-request@rootsweb.com >subject line: unsubscribe > >

Can someone on the list tell me how to purchase this book: "Die Verbandsgemeinde Thalfang am Erbeskopf" - ISBN 3-00-00183-1. Published about 1998. No author (I don't think) but was compiled by a group of people in the area of Thalfang. Any help here would be appreciated!! Thanks, Joanne Joanne A. Smith Mello jomello@innercite.com

Timothy, I believe what Keith intended to say was that the web site he listed: http://www.aal.org/LutheransOnline/Gene_Ex/ deals with Lutheran Genealogy, not the TRIER-ROOTS mailing list. Nancy -----Original Message----- <snip> From: Timothy J. Barron <tjbarro@ibm.net> To: TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 11, 1999 9:05 PM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Incorrect Description of TRIER-ROOTS >Keith: I am not certain that I understand your reply about this list, >TRIER-ROOTS, dealing "specifically with Lutheran genealogy" based on the >description for the list.

----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Lecuit <marc.lecuit@perceval.lu> To: <pbwilber@execpc.com> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: REMICH, LUXEMBURG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid <pbwilber@execpc.com> > To: <TRIER-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 3:16 PM > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: REMICH, LUXEMBURG > > > > Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid wrote: > > > > > > This town is just across the Mosel from Nennig, Germany. > > > > > > Does anyone have any information on REMICH. Would like the name of the > > > Catholic church and a contact person there. Is there an active > > > genealogist in that area? > > > > > > Thanks much > > > Paul > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? > > send your message to Trier-L-request@rootsweb.com > > subject line: unsubscribe > > > > Bonnie, Paul, > > You should take a look a these sites: > > http://www.igd-leo.lu/igd-leo/pub/remich.html > http://www.communes-g1.lu/remich/perlemos.htm > http://www.ltam.lu/CJR/Remich/Remich.htm > > Marc Lecuit > Grand Duché de Luxembourg > marc.lecuit@perceval.lu >

Val, There is a book, GERMAN GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH by George R. Schweitzer that has all of that information and much more. Most libraries have it in their genealogical collection. Arlene

According to the information in "The Lutherans in North America" Three principal impulses contributed to the emigration of the Palatines. (note: although palatine was a region in Germany the English and American colonists often applied this name to all Germans). One was the end of a Century of recurring wars starting with the thirty year war and ending with the French plundering Southwestern Germany in 1707. Two was the severe winter of 1708-09 when the weather was so severe wine was said to have frozen in the cask. Three: The ruler determined the religion of his subjects. When a Roman Catholic became electorate the Lutherans started to become harassed and property was confiscated. I have to add that further down the page the book states that the persecution may have been exaggerated in order to gain sympathy from other Protestants. It states that there where many Roman Catholics in the migration. Another strong influence was the promise of William Penn for a better life in the New World. I am not Lutheran and am not here to discuss Religion except for how it influenced my ancestors decision to leave Germany. I have both Catholic and Lutheran German Ancestors and yes my Catholic ancestors came from the Saarland. I am sure that there are others like myself who are looking over all of Germany and any extra straw might get them over that wall that they have ran into. Keith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid wrote: > > This town is just across the Mosel from Nennig, Germany. > > Does anyone have any information on REMICH. Would like the name of the > Catholic church and a contact person there. Is there an active > genealogist in that area? > > Thanks much > Paul

>Keith: I am not certain that I understand your reply about this list, >TRIER-ROOTS, dealing "specifically with Lutheran genealogy" based on the >description for the list. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/europe/index.html#prussia > >"TRIER-ROOTS-L -- A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest >in Luxembourg, the Saarland, the Rheinland, Westfalen (Westphalia), and >the Pfalz (used to be between Rheinland and Baden, belonged to Bavaria >but is now part of Rheinpfalz)." > >If your description about the list is correct, the List Owner needs to >update/change the description of TRIER-ROOTS on RootsWeb. Please verify >that the description above is incorrect. I was hoping to find a list as >described above. > > > >Keith Kurtz wrote: > >> http://www.aal.org/LutheransOnline/Gene_Ex/ >> >> This is a mailing list dealing specifically with Lutheran Genealogy. >> My Kurtz and Troutman lines both have Lutheran Histories and if you >> have any German in you then you probably have a Lutheran ancestor >> somewhere. >> >> Good Luck >> > > > Keith Kurtz >> > > > Dear all, > Sorry for the confussion I might have caused. Of course >"TRIER-ROOTS-L -- A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical >interest >in Luxembourg, the Saarland, the Rheinland, Westfalen (Westphalia), and >the Pfalz (used to be between Rheinland and Baden, belonged to Bavaria but is now part of Rheinpfalz)." I was trying to offer an additional sight on the web to research our ancestors that where Lutheran and many German emigrants were Lutheran, especially in the 1700's when the Catholic church took a grim look at being Lutheran. Keith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com