I am new to the TRIER list and I am looking for some advice or recommendation for a map of Germany around the 1850-1860 time frame. The towns that I would like to find are Fliessem, Feusdorf and Dockdorf. I would also like to find a good book regarding German research. Thank you for any suggestions. Linda

Subject; Bego Family-Bonn Germany Area 1825 Bonn to Natchez, Miss. 1865 My great grandfather, Frederich Johann Peter Bego left Bonn Germany in about 1848 and is thought to have arrived in St Louis , Mo. the same year. H was the only son of G. P. Bego and wife, Louise Overstolz. I have a copy of a letter written by an attorney for his mother who was trying to find her son and his family in the U. S.-saying that the Bego's were from Bonn. However, the LDS Library says there are no records of the family in Boon, and that probably they were from so,e neighboring town or community. My trusty Esso Road Atlas identifiesBeuel, Dusidorph, Ippendorf, Krautschweid, Lengsdorf, Oberkassel and Rottgen as neighboring towns.. Would the Bonn telephone directory cover these towns, and if so are there any Bego or Dingler names in the directory? I live in Texas area that was settled by many German Immigrants and would like to exchange research in this area for some help in the Bonn area.. Is there a Webb page for Bonn? Thanks, Walter Dreier--a fifth generation Texan-originally from Lippe-Detmold. Thanks, Walter

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It mean emigration in German. The first mentioned book is one I have access to. It is a thick book. I am not sure about the 2nd book. But I will leave the lookups to the guy who volunteered. W. David Samuelsen, listowner Mary Lu Keef wrote: > > Hello Uwe, > > I do not know the meaning of "Auswanderungen", so I am not sure if the book deals with places or names. Is there any information in book 1 on the town of Eitzweiler, or the family of Wommer (Wummer, Womer, etc.)? > > Many thanks for your offer. > > Mary Lu

I am trying to find the ancestral village of Johannes SÄNGER (SAENGER, SENGER, SINGER, etc.). He arrived in Philadelphia on 12 Sept 1734 on the ship St. Andrew with his wife Catrina and at least one daughter (also Catrina). There may have been younger sons, but their names weren't listed. In Strassburger and Hinke, Petter Freidel (Peter Freytle) is listed just before Johannes SÄNGER, and Conradt FREY (Conradt FRAY) is listed just after him. This family settled in Philadelphia County, PA, living near Blue Bell. Johannes and Catrina had the following children that I know of: Catrina Philip Christian Margaret Barbara George John Samuel Mary Johannes died 1754-1755, and family tradition has it that his widow, Catrina (Catherine), owned and ran the White Horse Tavern (now called the Blue Bell Inn) in Blue Bell (formerly Pigeontown), PA for 40 years, including during the Revolutionary War. I would really like to know where exactly Johannes SÄNGER and family were from....if anyone has any information to share on this, I would really appreciate hearing from you! Thanks....Diane (dfranken@erols.com)

Hello Uwe, I do not know the meaning of "Auswanderungen", so I am not sure if the book deals with places or names. Is there any information in book 1 on the town of Eitzweiler, or the family of Wommer (Wummer, Womer, etc.)? Many thanks for your offer. Mary Lu

Dear listmembers, I offer a lookup for the following 2 books which I borrowed from the university library of Düsseldorf. They are both from Werner Hacker and their titles are : 1.) Auswanderungen aus Rheinpfalz und Saarland im 18. Jahrhundert 2.) Auswanderer vom Oberen Neckar nach Südosteuropa im 18. Jahrhundert If you want me to do a lookup for you, please check first whether your people really emigrated in the 18th century and whether they came from the towns of these regions. As a help I've scanned the maps of these books and put them into the web. So please check out for book 1 the map (115 KB) at http://private.freepage.de/kerntopf/trier-roots/rp-s.jpg and for book 2 (370 KB) http://private.freepage.de/kerntopf/trier-roots/on.jpg . Please state in your request whether you want a lookup in book 1 or 2, because I'm not so familiar with alle the place names of these regions. I'm listening to this list, because I hope to get connections for my wife's family, which is originally from the Mosel region, especially the villages Ürzig, Graach und Ernst. More about them, their names and dates, you can find at http://private.freepage.de/kerntopf/schaaf/schaaf.html. Have a nice week Uwe - ------------------------------------------------ Uwe Kerntopf Köln, Deutschland mailto:Kerntopf@NetCologne.de http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-kerntouw http://private.freepage.de/kerntopf join the translation team, have a look at http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gk72/trans2.html - ------------------------------------------------ <END OF MESSAGE>

I have Schawel family in Wiltingen in 1750's. Evelyn in Iowa > My paternal surname is Benzschawel - which is a combination of the names Benz > and Schawel. Everyone is the world with this surname - and there aren't > many can be traced back to this particular family in Ockfin (Ackfin), > Saarland. I have found the name Schawel in Hamm and other small cities that > are practically within walking distance. > > Somewhere I read that when a family bought property they sometimes would > combine their name with the original owners such as ...if the land belonged > to the Schawel's and the Benz' bought it - it would become the land of the > BenzSchawel's. > > Can anyone offer help... I have the family line back to the mid 1700's in the > same town and the name is still Benzshawel. > > Any info would be appreciated > > Sue Benzschawel-Davis > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? > send your message to Trier-L-request@rootsweb.com > subject line: unsubscribe > >

I have a baptism certificate from St Michaels Church in Chicago 1870 that shows the parents place of birth as follows Leonard Schummer Eichweiler Borrasia Louisa Testor Holzhausen Borrasia the 2 were mrried in chgo after the death of Leonard' s first wife in 1864 so the proximity of towns would not ncessarily be a factor .I know where Holz hausen is but Im not sure abou the other town . Does anyone know if there is or was an Eichweiler ? I couldnt find it in expedia maps . Im thinking the peson who copied info could have made a mistake and it is Eschweiler Any help would be appreciated Mike Schummer Rootsweb member

My paternal surname is Benzschawel - which is a combination of the names Benz and Schawel. Everyone is the world with this surname - and there aren't many can be traced back to this particular family in Ockfin (Ackfin), Saarland. I have found the name Schawel in Hamm and other small cities that are practically within walking distance. Somewhere I read that when a family bought property they sometimes would combine their name with the original owners such as ...if the land belonged to the Schawel's and the Benz' bought it - it would become the land of the BenzSchawel's. Can anyone offer help... I have the family line back to the mid 1700's in the same town and the name is still Benzshawel. Any info would be appreciated Sue Benzschawel-Davis

Dear Friends Both the maternal and paternal branches of my father's family came from the Trier region and settled in St. Leo, Minnesota in the late 1800s. I've found quite a lot of information about many of my ancestors (see names below) but I haven't been able to locate any information about ancestors with my own surname ROLES. Since almost all of the Prussian/German immigrants to St. Leo came from the Rheinland it seems likely that the ROLES family did too. Any information about this surname would be most appreciated. Also would be fun to hear from people with connections to the following: UNTZEN/UNZEN originating in Neef and Bremm (Mosel Valley) BACH originating in Rombach/Raumbach (spelling?) and/or Breitscheid NOSBUSCH originating in Rodershausen and Preischeid NIESEN originating in Preischeid KLOOS origninating in Lunenbach MIESEN originating in ? Thanks Karen Roles St. Paul MN

Please post any information about histories for the Bitburg-Trier areas of Germany and Luxembourg. My ancestors were from Roehl, Dudeldorf, Lahr in Germany near Bitburg. Also some in Luxembourg, place unknown...believed to be Eastern part right near the German border. Sansu

Anyone know if there is any history on the internet, or books available for the little villages in Germany. My ancestors were from the Trier area, Saalouis and Saarbrucken. Villiages, Bardenbach,Niedersaubach, and Hellenhausen. I would like to know some history of these villiages during the years of 1700-1800's. Also pictures would be interesting. Thanks Florence

I have 2 Richters I believe to be brothers, however one came from Bavaria and the other from Wurttemburg. When I look at a map for Bavaria I find that Baden-Wurttemburg is included. Could someone unravel this for me? fred richter ******************************************* frichter@infocom.com http://www.infocom.com/~frichter

Hello, I have started a new mailing list, GERMAN-LIFE. It is designed for discussions on life in Germany through the ages. This information should help in understanding your ancestors life. Topics for discussion include, but are not limited to, local customs, naming patterns, migration, foods, clothing, weather, city and rural life, housing, professions, emigration, changing borders, books, religion, government, etc. The mailing list is not for personal genealogical posts or queries. Use this address to subscribe and unsubscribe: <GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@cultures.rootsweb.com> Use this address to send your email to the list: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@cultures.rootsweb.com> Thank You Glenn G. Geisheimer - <germanic42@home.com) List Administrator for GERMAN-LIFE

Couple of sites with details regarding emigrant's journeys and getting settled in Wisc. in the late1840's. The Nohl's family journey from Prussia to Wisc. (a six week diary) in 1849. http://www.crossmyt.com/hc/gen/nohlmigd.html the above is a page from the US GenWeb site for Fond du Lac, Wisc. which has other interesting histories. http://www.rootsweb.com/~wifonddu/contents.html

I WAS BORN IN TRIER AND I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING INFORMATION IN REGARD TO FAMILY TREE. AS I DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR A COMPUTER ALL THE TIME, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU SUPPLYING ME WITH ANY ADDRESSES THAT I COULD WRITE TO SO I CAN GET SOME INFORMATION. MY NAME AND ADDRESS ARE AS FOLLOWS: HELEN HORVATH P O BOX 259 CRANBOURNE, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA, 3977 THANK-YOU.

Mr. Bungert from Großrosseln has published a family book with Jewish families from Schweich and Issel. Karl-Josef Tonner, Daun

Schönen Dank an alle die angeboten haben mir bei meiner Uebersetzung zu helfen... Bob BEHNEN was the first so he got the job :-) Marc Lecuit Grand Duché de Luxembourg marc.lecuit@perceval.lu

Thank you for all of the personal notes about the letter. I hope that if in the future you come across an interesting piece of information that you will also share it! Several of the notes requested that I share the information that I found, as they also had an interest in that type of information. As I expected, a trip to the public library was required to find the "historical" information that I desired on Westfalen/Westphalia. But first, on the way to the library, I stopped at a local bookseller and found a real "gem" of a book. This book will interest any genealogical researcher that wants an understanding of what life was like in America during 1600-1900. The book is a compilation of firsthand accounts, taken from diaries, letters, etc. You read what they experienced in their own words. The first chapter has a few other accounts of what it was like to travel across the Atlantic. I read two chapters and find this extremely interesting and valuable. WITNESSING AMERICA The Library of Congress Book of Firsthand Accounts of Life in America 1600-1900 Compiled and Edited by Noel Rae, Forward by Douglas Brinkley ISBN 0-670-86400-5 Chapter Titles: Arriving Upbringing Pairing Working Housing Eating Playing Praying Erring Ailing Departing Below is are a few of the books that contained the type of historical information that I was looking for. There were books that the library did not alllow to be checked out so I will have to return and spend a few hours (days!) there to read as much of them as I can. RESEARCH GUIDE TO GERMAN-AMERICAN GENEALOGY Copyright May 1991 German Interest Group P.O. Box 16312 St. Paul, MN 55116 This book contained a chapter on the orgins of surnames and how they changed, another chapter on the religious makeup of Germany, a chapter on German immigration and the reasons for it, an appendix with a dateline of German history from the year 400 - 1990, and a few historic maps. GERMAN FAMILY RESEARCH MADE SIMPLE by J. Konrad Summit Publications Now published by Ye Olde Genealogie Shoppe P.O. Box 39128 Indianapolis, IN 46239 (317) 862-3330 ISBN 1-878311-12-3 This book contained a chapter on German immigration and the reasons for it, a chapter on the history of "Germany" through the ages, a one page history of Westfalen, and another page on "The Peculiarity in Surnames in Westphalia and other Parts of Northern German." -- \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) ------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------------- Timothy J. Barron mailto:tjbarro@ibm.net http://www.geocities.com/tjbarro --------------------Oooo.----------------------- .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_)