Hello, There should be links for these soldiers on the internet in France. For now here is one for Luxembourg ancestors - Norbert HAMES site. http://norbert.hames.com/ link NAPOLEON Best regards, François http://webplaza.pt.lu/public/meischf/index.html --------------------------- From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Hello, Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers would have been drafted from this area as well as France. I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. Mit freundlich Grüßen, Joe Miller ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribe

http://www.brausch.net/names1.htm#Everhardy Hi, Carol, I don't know about the books, but have you seen this site with Everhardi's from Britten? (Also, please excuse me if I've told you about it before. I know I told someone recently, but can't remember who... :-) Pat

I posted this to MN, IA, and B-W lists, but also applies to the Rheinland, Trier, and Lux list too.. Peter KIEFFER (b:1826 Luxemburg, Wurtenburg, Germany....immigrated 1852) and Elizabeth KALMAS (b: 1839 Wurtenberg, Germany) married on 15 April 1856 in Iowa (Dubuque area). They had Henry, Elizabeth (b:1858 married Henry HANSON), Mary (b:1861 married Mr. GEDELL), Evaline (b:1863), Carry (b:1863). They moved to Lake Crystal, Blue Earth, MN and had Annie (b:1865), Michael (b:1867), Minnie (b:1871), and Carrie/Cory (b:1873). Family notes had Peter and Elizabeth from Holland, 1880 MN Census had both from Wurtenberg, and obits (thanks Barbara) had P from Luxemburg, Germany (I think Lux, Germany is on the Lux/Germ border west of Rheinland) and E from Germany with father Jacob KALMAS. Does anyone have any more information they can add? Pete Hanson

Napoleon's Army & Russia. There is a list of Luxumbourg soldiers that marched int Russia See Below: Subj:TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V01 #232 Date:7/22/2001 8:13:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Content-Type: text/plain TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 01 : Issue 232 Today's Topics: #1 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: TRIER-ROOTS-D [Sharon Kazmierski < [email protected]] Administrivia: Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribe ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:45:12 +0100 From: Sharon Kazmierski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected][213.122.48.231]> Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V01 #228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This was posted on Genforum. I found some Mackels and Goldschmidts in it. LOTS of Theis people. http://norbert.hames.com/Napoleon/Soldats.html Luxembourg Soldiers during Napoleon Sharon Kazmierski [email protected] Listowner, Latinteach and Latin Discussion Lists Latinteach Website: http://www.latinteach.com EVEN MORE NEW WEBQUEST LINKS http://www.latinteach.com/webquests.html ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (rly-yd02.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.2]) by air-yd01.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINYD18-0722081330; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 08:13:30 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-yd02.mx.aol.com (v79.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD25-0722081324; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 08:13:24 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f6MC4tq19100; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 06:04:55 -0600 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 06:04:55 -0600 Message-Id: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Subject: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V01 #232 X-Loop: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/volume01/232 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] [email protected]; it may be a start

In addition to the deaths of young men who were forced to serve in Napoleon's army, there was an uprising in the Eifel. This uprising is one of the topics in the history section of www.eifeltour.de . The site is German only, if you do not speak German, run the site through a translator. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V02 #63 Dear List Members: In Chronik Ulmen (a history of the village of Ulmen), there is a chapter devoted to Ulmen Under French Rule (1794 - 1814). It includes a bibliograph , translations from French to German, and reprints of documents relating to this subject. There are a few sentences on the young men of Ulmen who were in the French army, and where they died. This includes an ancestor of mine (August Wilwerscheid) who was an officer killed at Koenigsberg in 1813. Unfortunately, the book is in Germany. It was published in 2000 and it is available for about $25 US. It is ISBN 3-929745-89-5. Anyone with family from Ulmen will want to read this book. Best wishes to all, Paul Wilberscheid [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 63 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Napoleon's Army ["Joe Miller" <[email protected]] > #2 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Arm [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Napoleon's Army > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:42:49 -0500 > From: "Joe Miller" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hello, > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > Joe Miller > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Army > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:28:56 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > To Joe and everyone else: > > My g-g-grandfather's headstone says he, Matthias Molitor, was a veteran of > the German liberation from 1808 to 1815, "Veteran aus von Deutschen > Befrieungs K.......(I can't read the rest of a long word) von 1808 bis 1815 > ruler Napoleon." > > Family lore (and a turn-of-the-century newspaper article) says he served > under General Bernadotte, later Carl Johan - King of Sweden and Norway. > Further, he was with the French Army when it invaded Russia in 1812, > witnessed the burning of Moscow and survived the fatal retreat of the French > out of Russia. After the disastrous Russian campaign he participated in > combat engagements at Leipzig, Hanman, and finally in the bloody battle at > Waterloo......However, we have no proof. > > He arrived in Houston County, Minnesota, in 1858. He died there in 1883 and > is buried in Calvary Cemetery in Caledonia, MN. He was born 1790 in BORN, > LUX. > > So, as you can see, I would love to find any record of his military service. > > Karen Langer > Laguna Niguel, CA > > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Hello, > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > Joe Miller ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribeGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

See web site http://norbert.hames.com/ and select Napoleon or go direct to (http://norbert.hames.com/Napoleon/Sommairetml). The researcher has extracted data on Luxembourg soldiers in Napoleons Army from a book by Charles SCHAACK, called "The Luxembourgers Soldiers of France, 1792-1815". The page is in french, but select "C" for the searchable database. Items "D" and "E" provide explanations of codes/symbols used in the book. Use Alta Vista for needed translations. There is a Molitor born 1790, from Born, Luxembourg in the database but did not go by "Matthias" ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Army > To Joe and everyone else: > > My g-g-grandfather's headstone says he, Matthias Molitor, was a veteran of > the German liberation from 1808 to 1815, "Veteran aus von Deutschen > Befrieungs K.......(I can't read the rest of a long word) von 1808 bis 1815 > ruler Napoleon." > > Family lore (and a turn-of-the-century newspaper article) says he served > under General Bernadotte, later Carl Johan - King of Sweden and Norway. > Further, he was with the French Army when it invaded Russia in 1812, > witnessed the burning of Moscow and survived the fatal retreat of the French > out of Russia. After the disastrous Russian campaign he participated in > combat engagements at Leipzig, Hanman, and finally in the bloody battle at > Waterloo......However, we have no proof. > > He arrived in Houston County, Minnesota, in 1858. He died there in 1883 and > is buried in Calvary Cemetery in Caledonia, MN. He was born 1790 in BORN, > LUX. > > So, as you can see, I would love to find any record of his military service. > > Karen Langer > Laguna Niguel, CA > > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Hello, > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > Joe Miller >

Does anyone know where I can get these two books? I am looking for information on Goeden's and Everhardi's from Gutweiler, Britten, Lampaden, and Schillingen Rhineland-Palatinate Prussia. Thanks Carol Family album property gutweiler 1659 - 1905 Editor: Heinrich Wagner, Trier 1987 Ortsfamilienbücher -> Suchergebnis für: Gutweiler Gutweiler Familienbuch Gutweiler 1659 - 1905 Bearbeiter: Heinrich Wagner, Trier 1987 Family album Lampaden 1792 - 1886 Editor: Heinrich Wagner, Trier 1988 Lampaden -> Familienbuch Lampaden 1792 - 1886 Bearbeiter: Heinrich Wagner, Trier 1988

Dear List Members: In Chronik Ulmen (a history of the village of Ulmen), there is a chapter devoted to Ulmen Under French Rule (1794 - 1814). It includes a bibliograph , translations from French to German, and reprints of documents relating to this subject. There are a few sentences on the young men of Ulmen who were in the French army, and where they died. This includes an ancestor of mine (August Wilwerscheid) who was an officer killed at Koenigsberg in 1813. Unfortunately, the book is in Germany. It was published in 2000 and it is available for about $25 US. It is ISBN 3-929745-89-5. Anyone with family from Ulmen will want to read this book. Best wishes to all, Paul Wilberscheid [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 63 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Napoleon's Army ["Joe Miller" <[email protected]] > #2 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Arm [[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Napoleon's Army > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:42:49 -0500 > From: "Joe Miller" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hello, > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > Joe Miller > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Army > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:28:56 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > To Joe and everyone else: > > My g-g-grandfather's headstone says he, Matthias Molitor, was a veteran of > the German liberation from 1808 to 1815, "Veteran aus von Deutschen > Befrieungs K.......(I can't read the rest of a long word) von 1808 bis 1815 > ruler Napoleon." > > Family lore (and a turn-of-the-century newspaper article) says he served > under General Bernadotte, later Carl Johan - King of Sweden and Norway. > Further, he was with the French Army when it invaded Russia in 1812, > witnessed the burning of Moscow and survived the fatal retreat of the French > out of Russia. After the disastrous Russian campaign he participated in > combat engagements at Leipzig, Hanman, and finally in the bloody battle at > Waterloo......However, we have no proof. > > He arrived in Houston County, Minnesota, in 1858. He died there in 1883 and > is buried in Calvary Cemetery in Caledonia, MN. He was born 1790 in BORN, > LUX. > > So, as you can see, I would love to find any record of his military service. > > Karen Langer > Laguna Niguel, CA > > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Hello, > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > Joe Miller

Paul and Bonnie, Thanks for Ulmen Chronik reference--now I need to know where to buy it! Related topic--my 2nd great grandfather Lorenz Neis a native of Waldkönigen/Daun (Eifel) served at Waterloo--died in Cold Spring MN 1882. Where would one find a record of recruits from the canton of Daun, residents of Dreis? Thanks for any comments. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul & Bonnie Wilberscheid" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V02 #63 > Dear List Members: > > In Chronik Ulmen (a history of the village of Ulmen), there is a chapter devoted to Ulmen Under French Rule (1794 - 1814). It > includes a bibliograph , translations from French to German, and reprints of documents relating to this subject. There are a > few sentences on the young men of Ulmen who were in the French army, and where they died. This includes an ancestor of mine > (August Wilwerscheid) who was an officer killed at Koenigsberg in 1813. Unfortunately, the book is in Germany. It was > published in 2000 and it is available for about $25 US. It is ISBN 3-929745-89-5. > > Anyone with family from Ulmen will want to read this book. > > Best wishes to all, > Paul Wilberscheid > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Subject: > > > > TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 63 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Napoleon's Army ["Joe Miller" <[email protected]] > > #2 [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Arm [[email protected]] > > > > Administrivia: > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Napoleon's Army > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:42:49 -0500 > > From: "Joe Miller" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > > > Hello, > > > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > > > Joe Miller > > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Napoleon's Army > > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:28:56 EST > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > > > To Joe and everyone else: > > > > My g-g-grandfather's headstone says he, Matthias Molitor, was a veteran of > > the German liberation from 1808 to 1815, "Veteran aus von Deutschen > > Befrieungs K.......(I can't read the rest of a long word) von 1808 bis 1815 > > ruler Napoleon." > > > > Family lore (and a turn-of-the-century newspaper article) says he served > > under General Bernadotte, later Carl Johan - King of Sweden and Norway. > > Further, he was with the French Army when it invaded Russia in 1812, > > witnessed the burning of Moscow and survived the fatal retreat of the French > > out of Russia. After the disastrous Russian campaign he participated in > > combat engagements at Leipzig, Hanman, and finally in the bloody battle at > > Waterloo......However, we have no proof. > > > > He arrived in Houston County, Minnesota, in 1858. He died there in 1883 and > > is buried in Calvary Cemetery in Caledonia, MN. He was born 1790 in BORN, > > LUX. > > > > So, as you can see, I would love to find any record of his military service. > > > > Karen Langer > > Laguna Niguel, CA > > > > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > > Hello, > > > > Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another > > with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who > > march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under > > French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers > > would have been drafted from this area as well as France. > > > > I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after > > Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. > > > > Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. > > > > Mit freundlich Grüßen, > > > > Joe Miller > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

Hello, Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers would have been drafted from this area as well as France. I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. Mit freundlich Grüßen, Joe Miller

To Joe and everyone else: My g-g-grandfather's headstone says he, Matthias Molitor, was a veteran of the German liberation from 1808 to 1815, "Veteran aus von Deutschen Befrieungs K.......(I can't read the rest of a long word) von 1808 bis 1815 ruler Napoleon." Family lore (and a turn-of-the-century newspaper article) says he served under General Bernadotte, later Carl Johan - King of Sweden and Norway. Further, he was with the French Army when it invaded Russia in 1812, witnessed the burning of Moscow and survived the fatal retreat of the French out of Russia. After the disastrous Russian campaign he participated in combat engagements at Leipzig, Hanman, and finally in the bloody battle at Waterloo......However, we have no proof. He arrived in Houston County, Minnesota, in 1858. He died there in 1883 and is buried in Calvary Cemetery in Caledonia, MN. He was born 1790 in BORN, LUX. So, as you can see, I would love to find any record of his military service. Karen Langer Laguna Niguel, CA From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Hello, Since we all have family that was probably involved in one way or another with this, did the French government keep records of the men's names who march to Moscow in 1812? Our part of the Rheinland/Rhineland was under French control at this time and undoubtedly, many of Napoleon's soldiers would have been drafted from this area as well as France. I am asking in behalf of my second cousin whose ancestor died after Napoleon's retreat and she is looking to obtain some kind of proof of this. Would appreciate to hear any thoughts on this matter. Mit freundlich Grüßen, Joe Miller

Ernst, I tried to post this several days ago, I thought I had just missed seeing it in my mail and would leter get a reply, but I finally went to the archives and looked and it is not there. I don't know what happened, we have been having IP problems and just changed servers, perhaps that had something to do with it. Thanks Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathy rogers" [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] dialects Thanks Ernst, These phrases will be phonetic since I don't read or speak German. I was taught " kahn du dike Swetza or Swetsa?" for "Can you speak German?" When my kids took High School German I found out that was very different. "Papa ear (or maybe ee) fahts swine slockta ear koom sleek oon fear" is susposed to be "Daddy went to kill hogs and will be back at four" I'm not sure if I have separated words in the right place, they could be run together or broken in the wrong place. Just hearing it makes it hard to do on paper with English phonics. There is one line of the family who think they were from Hamburg, but from every thing I have learned that seems inpossible. When I asked why they thought that, I didn't get an answer. Possibly they sailed from there? Or there could be a town that sounds similar in the area I believe they were from, or it could have nothing to do with it. I have looked at a lot of maps on line, but can't seem to find one that I can see the rivers and the towns clearly, any sugestions. Thank you for being willing to try this. Kathy Kathy, If your family lived near a river in the Trier region and walked to Luxemburg, there are only three possible rivers: the upper Mosel (between Oberbillig and Perl), the Sauer river or the Our river. Maybe it`s possible to identify the exact region by the phrases you`ve learnt. Post it and I`ll try to determine. Ernst Trier/Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: glenn _kathy _rogers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:08 PM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] dialects > Thanks to Ernst and Anne > The information was very helpful. > I haven't been able to pinpoint the town of origin for my MENZ ancestors. > But another helpful person on this list or Pfalz was able to help me from a > couple phrases I had been taught. He had said it was a dialect that was > spoken along the Mosell R. but didn't give it a name. > My ggrandfather had told his children and grandchildren stories of living > very near a river (they couldn't recall which river) and of walking to > Luxembourg. I know family stories are often unreliable but this one seems > to be checking out. > The phone books of the area have too many Menzs to try that route unless I > can't get more information another way. > I have been unable to find naturalization or ships records for them. > Catholic church death and marriage records don't place of birth. > > They would have immigrated 1846-48, there was a son born in Ger. in 1845 and > he remarried in Ohio 11 Jan 1848, after his 1st wife died on board ship ( > her death is also family lore). > > Born in Ger. were: > Martin MENZ b. 9 Jan 1817 > Taddeus MENZ b. 10 Apr 1842 > Linus MENZ b. 23 Feb 1845 > > They were Catholic. > Any help or suggestion about what else to try will be appreciated. > And if someone else would like to try to determine which dialect exactly it > was let me know. I have to try to type it phoneticly but it seems to work > before. > Sorry this got so long. > Thanks > Kathy R. > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribe

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I want to thank all of you who offered to help me with the translation of the marriage record. I certainly do appreciate all your help. This is the most wonderful list thanks to all of you great people out there. Every time I've had a problem you have been able to help me. Jane

Hi from Colorado, Is there anyone on the list that could help me translate a marriage record in Latin? I would be happy to scan it and send it on if there is someone who could help me. It seems to have a different format than others I have done and I can't make sense of it. Jane

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Hi, I am trying to find the birthplace of one of my ancestors, a Anna Maria Louise Friedrich. She was the daughter of Adam Friedrich, miller at the mill of Baesch (near Thalfang,) and Madelaine Marie Elz. In Anna's marriage certificate from 1809 the placename is written down, but I just can't make out what it is supposed to read. I would be very grateful if some of you who are good at reading Suetterlin could have a look at the document. I scanned the relevant passage and put a small and a bigger picture of it online at http://www.genealogie-neu.de/friedrich.html. The passage just says "neé à ...". Thanks a lot in advance - Anne Unfried ________________________________________________________________ Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13

Is there a printed Familienbuch for Freudenburg, Germany? If yes, where is it available and has it been microfilmed? Thanks for any help. Gini

I know that some of my ancestors emigrated from Zürich Kanton-Switz. to the Pfalz area sometime in the late 1600 or early in the 1700. In 1727 they emigrated from Pfalz to North America in the Ship Molly and settled in Lancaster Co.PA. I don't really know how/where to search for information about the years they spent in the Pfalz-Bayern area (I don't know the city or town). Probably some of the listers will be able to help me. Many thanks in advance, Rene

Listers: Found the following sites/URLs on CyndisLIst for March 14, 2002. Have not tried any of them, so not sure what they include. Good luck. Marybeth Corrigall ============== << URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/articles/index.html TITLE: German Articles DESCRIPTION: Genealogical Articles for German Research: Emigration, Geography, Archives, Regional, Nobility, Before Parish Records, etc. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/articles/gnewsfu.htm TITLE: German Newspapers (1780-1914) Follow-up DESCRIPTION: Describes genealogical uses of German Newspapers, availablity, and indexing projects. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/hamburg/index.html TITLE: Hamburg Passenger List - 1872 DESCRIPTION: Index to the 1872 passenger lists from Hamburg, extracted by volunteers at the Family History Library. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/germaps.htm TITLE: German Maps DESCRIPTION: Some German maps of Prussian-Poland, the German Empire, and Schleswig-Holstein. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/gazetteer/index.html TITLE: German Gazetteers DESCRIPTION: Complete genealogical gazetteers giving the Lutheran and Catholic parishes and other record offices for each town in: Bavaria, East & West Prussia, Hohenzollern, Hessen-Darmstadt, Hessen-Nassau, Mecklenburg, and Waldeck. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/streetgd/index.html TITLE: German Street Guides DESCRIPTION: Genealogical guides listing the parish and civil registration offices for each street address in the cities of Berlin, Leipzig, Halle, Magdeburg, and Stettin. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/mecklen/index.html TITLE: Mecklenburg DESCRIPTION: Genealogical guide for research in Mecklenburg; includes gazetteer of all place names in Mecklenburg. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/horlacher/index.html TITLE: Horlacher Family DESCRIPTION: Genealogy of the Horlacher family in Germany, Switzerland, US, Eastern Europe, Canada, etc. =~=~=~= URL: http://ci.lewiston.me.us/clerk/genealogy TITLE: City of Lewiston, Maine City Clerk's Department DESCRIPTION: Information on Conducting Genealogy Research in the City of Lewiston, Maine. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/articles/petillon.htm TITLE: Origins of the Bedillion-Petillon Family DESCRIPTION: Explains the discovery of the origin of several Petillon Family's from the 1700s in Germany and France. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/articles/kilmer.htm TITLE: Kilmer Family's German Origins DESCRIPTION: Describes finding the origin of the 1710 NY German Kilmer Family in Germany. =~=~=~= URL: http://www.horlacher.org/germany/articles/kleikam.htm TITLE: Search for the Claycomb(e) Family DESCRIPTION: Describes research extending the Claycomb family as the Kleikam Family in Germany in 1700s. >>