Here is the e-mail I received from my new German cousin about the History of Orscholz. Alice hier noch weitere Auszüge aus dem Bistumsarchiv: Nach dem Bericht der Trierer Bistumschronik (Gesta Treverorum) schenkte König Ludwig IV. (gestorben 911) dem Trierer Erzbischof Radbod die Burgen Sierck und Orkesvels mit dazu gehÖrenden Orten. (Sierck gehört heute zu Frankreich und liegt ca. 8 km von Borg entfernt. Orkesvels ist das jeutige Orscholz, gehört zu Deutschland und ist ca. 6 km von Borg entfernt). Die Burg von Sierck muß ein imposantes, großes Gebäude gewesen sein. Die Ruinenstehen noch und man kann sie besichtigen. Von der Burg Okesvels ist mehr vorhanden. Ein Arnold de Orkesvels erscheint 1167 in einer Urkunde des Trierer Erzbischofs Hillin. Die Kapelle von Orscholz, 1569 ais Filialkapelle von Tünsdorg genannt, lag beim Aufgang zur Burg und war 1341 mit einem Priester besetzt. Diesen Zustand bezeugt auch noch der Visitationsbericht von 1743 mit der Erwähnung eines in Orscholz wohnenden Vikars. Die Einwohner des Ortes waren zum Besuch der Pfarrkirche (in Tünsdorf) nur noch an den höchsten Feiertagen verpflichtet, wo sie auch die Osterkommunion empfingen. Die Kapelle in Orscholz hatte einen deutlichen Vorrang vor den anderen Filialen des Pfarrbezirkes, die keine Rechte auf Gottesdienste hatten. Dieser Vorrang wird in Verbindung mit der Burg gebracht. Bei der Neugliederung der Pfarrorganisation in Französischer Zeit (1803) wurde Orscholz eigenständige Pfarrei ohne Filialen. Die heutige Kirche steht unter dem Patronat des Nikolaus. Der Pfarrer von Orscholz betreut heute auch die Pfarrei St. Gangolf in Oberleuken. Viele Gruße

I received an E-Mail form my newly found German cousin in Borg. She has sent me an E-mail about the History of Rettel, France in German. Um genaue Informationen über die Geschichte unseres Landstriches zu erhalten, ist es zweckmäßig, die Web-Seiten von Trier aufzurufen. Ich hatte schon einmal die Adresse angegeben, aber sie war wohl nicht ganz korrekt. Sie lautet: http://www.trier.de Die Seite ist auch in Englisch zu lesen. Z.B. unter der Rubrik A-Z. Chronik der Stadt. Oder um alle Daten aus dem Christentum zu erfahren ist die Seite www.bistum-trier.de sehr interessant. Die Geschehnisse des Bistums Trier sind eng mit der Geschichte von Borg verbunden. Auch das Metz war zeitweise für uns zuständig. Ich denke es ist nicht so außergewöhnlich, da Rettel nur etwa 10 km von Borg entfernt ist. Auch in unserer Zeit heiraten Menschen ins benachbarte Frankreich. Auszüge aus dem Buch des Bistumsarchiv von Trier: "Siedlung und Pfarrorganisation im alten Erzbistum Trier" Die Kirche St. Laurentius und die Abtei St. Sixtus in Rettel Die Anfänge des Klosters liegen im Dunkein. Nach der Retteler Überlieferung gait als Gründerin Effetia, angebich eine Schwester Karis des Großen, von der die Geschichtsforschung jedoch nichts weiß, die aber auch eine Schwester Hildegards, der zweiten Gemahlin Karis des Großen gewesen sein könnte. Das Kloster, ursprünglich ein FrauenKloster, soil durch Papst Leo III, der 799 und 804 in Deutschland weilte, zu Ehren des Papstes Sixtus geweiht worden sein. Ander karolingischen Gründung ist nach dem Befund der Augrabungen in der Stephanuskapelle (1605/1616,1655), die drei Bei-setzungen von vornehmen Personen in Trapezsarkophagen erbrachte, wohl nicht zu zweifein. Dei Vogtei über Rettel hatten 1193 - vermutlich ais Lehen der Herzöge von Lothringen - die Herren der nahen Burg Sierck. Die Abtei scheint zu Anfang des 15. Jahrhunderts zerstört worden zu sein. Auf Betreiben Margarethas, der Witwe des Herzogs Karis II von Lothringen, wurde sie im Jaahre 1431 den Karthäusem (Mönche) übertragen. Das Klostergebäude wurde 1467 dem Dechanten des Landkapitels Perl übertragen, der dort mit fünf Geistlichen eine Klerikergemeinschaft bilden solite. Der Visitationsbericht von 1743 bietet für die Pfarrei Rettel folgende Einzeiheiten: Die Karthause war aufgrund ihres exklusiven Zehntrechts in der Gemarkung baupflichtig für Chor und Schiff der Kirche. Der Prior der Karthause übte das Pastronatsrecht aus und bestelite für die Seelsorge einen Vikar, der in der Karthause wohnte. Bei der Neuordnung der kirchlichen Verhältnisse in französischer Zeit (1802) blieb Rettel ais Hilfspfarrei (Sukkursale) der Kantonspfarrei Sierck bestehen. Rettel ist ein echtes lothringisches Dorf. Es liegt direkt an der Mosel. Dort gibt es noch viele alte Häuser, auch das alte Zehntgebäude haben wir gesehen. Ein ganz neues VViertei mit vielen sehr schönen Häusern ist wohl in den letzten Jahren erst entstanden. In meinem nächsten E-Mail werde ich von Orscholz berichten. Für heute viele Grüße

Hello, Beurig is the correct writing and Beurich the spelling. Today it is a part of the city of Saarburg at the river Saar, 15 miles southwest of Trier. From this area a lot of people emigrated in the 1840`s and 1850`s. The emigration lists in Mr. Mergen´s book gegin late in 1857. So the former emigrants are not listed in his book. The emigrants without a permission are not listed, too. The emigrants names from Beurig are: Hauser, Jaeger, Schuh, Weber, Kronenburger, Adams, Wagner. Werner Lichter Gilzem/Germany ################ > > Hello, > In reading comments about the history of Borg and its previous > spellings, I am reminded of my ancestor's tombstone inscription-- > "Johann Tressel, Geb Beurich, Kries Trier, Regieringshezsch Saarberg, > Geb 17 June 1797." Obviously, many naive spelling errors in it. I > had decided that "Beurich" was Beurig, but possibly it should have > been Borg? Johann came to Illinois in the early 1850's. > Ann > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe

Hello, Thanks to listers for the information. Johann stated on his intention to become a citizen of the U. S. that he immigrated from Hamburgh and arrived in May, 1853. If that is correct, he was 56 years old when he immigrated. He brought at least three grown children with him, Adam, John, Elizabeth, and Anna Maria. His son Adam was born in what we think is Pellingen, so he apparently lived there, too. Were there conditions at that time that people were trying to avoid or was the hope of inexpensive land ownership a great incentive? Ann

Hi- guess I will add a wee bit of my Michels family here also: I have an Anna Maria Michels marrying in the village of Welchbillig in 1767 to Johann Frantzen ,b. 1738 also of Welchbillig. I do not know the parents of Anna Maria. Perhaps this will help locate some " older " Family members. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Nokes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Treves--Trier and Michels-surname > I think there is a high probability that they may be related. Eva MICHELS, > daughter of George MICHELS and > Anna Marie THELEN/THELAN/THIELEN, married Christian LIENGER/LINGER--also > from teh Trier area of Prussia. > > George MICHELS settled first in Belgium, Wisconsin: > > Patentee Name; State; County; Issue Date Land Office Doc.; Nr. Accession > MICHELS, GEORGE WI Ozaukee 2/10/1848 Milwaukee 23440 WI2930__.373 > MICHELS, GEORGE WI Washington 5/1/1855 Milwaukee 36033 WI3180__.156 > > Christian's father and some other sibs moved up to Stearns county, Minnesota > about 1860. > > Susan > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Schmitt" <[email protected]> > To: "Susan Nokes" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 9:45 PM > Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Treves--Trier and Michels-surname > > > > Might this be the same Michels family resident at Belgium, Ozaukee Co. c. > > 1857. Henry (Heinrich) Michels, son of Michael & Angelika Michels, born > c. > > 1829, married Anna Neis, daughter of Lorenz Neis and Christina Schueller > > from Dreis, Canton Daun, Trier. This family moved on to MN (Meiers Grove) > > then Uniontown, Washington state. I seek any additional information. Joe > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Susan Nokes" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:22 PM > > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Treves--Trier and Michels-surname > > > > > > > Posting new info which Werner found and wish to thank Werner publicly > and > > > personally! > > > > > > WOW!!! I always thought there was a family connection with the > WEBER's, > > > because they were sponsors/godparents on some of the baptismal records. > > > > > > There are also SCHNEIDERs in that same area: > > > Petri Schneider married Apolonia Schmits and had the following children: > > > > > > John Schneider who married Ana Christina Holzhem (b. May 30, 1862-died > > ???). > > > They were married on November 24, 1885. > > > Records from St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Fussvile (Menomonee > Falls), > > > Wisconsin indicate that Anna Christina Holzhem was born 30 May 1862 and > > > baptized 1 June 1862. Her baptismal sponsors were: Georgio MICHELS and > > > Christina FUSS. > > > Marriage record: > > > She married on 24 November 1885 to Joannum Schneider of Minnesota, s/o > > > Petrie Schneider and Apolonia Schmits (spelled as recorded in Catholic > > > Records). Witnesses for the marriage included Engelberto Lehman and Ana > > > Holzem. > > > > > > and > > > > > > Engelburt Schneider who married Ana Maria Holzhem. Ana Maria Holzhem > was > > > born on February 10, 1864 in Fussville, Waukesha County, Wisconsin. > > > This marriage took place in 1877. > > > Records from St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Fussvile (Menomonee > Falls), > > > Wisconsin indicate that Ana Maria was born 10 February 1864 and baptized > > 14 > > > February 1864. Her sponsors were: Henry FUSS and Ana Maria MICHELS. > > > > > > She married Engelburtum SCHNEIDER of Minnesota, s/o Petri Schneider and > > > Apolonia Schmitz (as spelled this time in the church records), in > 1877--no > > > specific month or date was recorded. Witnesses for this marriage > > included: > > > Chrysanthi Len---(unreadable) and Elizabeth Holzem > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Werner Lichter" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Susan Nokes" <[email protected]>; "TRIER-ROOTS" > > > <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 8:29 AM > > > Subject: Re: Treves--Trier and Michels-surname > > > > > > > > > > Dear Susan and all the others, > > > > what an interesting mail. > > > > Let me send you the datas of this Michels family: > > > > > > > > (datas from the familybook of "Schankweiler, from Werner Naumann , > page > > > > 145) > > > > > > > > Barthel MICHELS > > > > a teacher > > > > born in unknown > > > > death 05 Nov. 1856 in Holsthum > > > > > > > > married before 1833 in unknown to > > > > > > > > Margaretha Weber > > > > born in unknown > > > > died in USA unknown > > > > > > > > this family moved (for teaching) before February 1833 to Holsthum. > There > > > > the following children where born: > > > > 1. 02.12.1833 Catharina > > > > 2. 03.31.1838 Anna Clara > > > > 3. 09.25.1840 Anton (to USA in 1857) > > > > 4. 12.31.1843 Leonard > > > > 5. 12.30.1848 Johann Philipp > > > > The first emigrant from this family was Anton Michels. In his > "permisson > > > > to emigrate" her wrote: > > > > "My mother is the widdow of the teacher Batholomaeus (called Barthel) > > > > Michels who died at September 5th last year here in Holsthum. She has > a > > > > sister who´s married in the state of Wisconsin. She wants to have me > > > > with her. For that she has sent a socalled Mr. Peter Schneider from > > > > Bettendorf to me to bring me to her in USA. He is working since two > > > > years at her (farm ?). Now I am ready (with the permission of my > mother) > > > > to emigrate on October 10th to Wisconsin. Date of prussian Certificate > > > > of Permission September 7th 1857. > > > > I am shure that the complete family emigrated after 1857 and I think > > > > this happened before 1869. > > > > It is possible to clear where Mr. Bathel Michels was born, because we > > > > have the date of death. The civil records will tell where he was born > > > > and who were his parents. > > > > There was no Lenger living in that parish of Schankweiler (containing > > > > the towns of Holsthum, Peffingen and Schankweiler). > > > > Treves is the french name for Trier (government district of Trier or > > > > city of Trier, both is correcht). > > > > Holzem is the slang variation of three towns: > > > > a. Holsthum (called Holzem) , Irrel county, district of Bitburg-Pruem, > > > > state of Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; > > > > b. Holzem (called Holzem) , community of Mamer, Luxemburg; > > > > c. Holzthum (called Holtzem), community of Consthum, Luxemburg. > > > > Maybe there are other "Holzem`s" in lorrain (France) or Belgium > > > > (province of Luxemburg), but I don´t know yet. > > > > Emigrants with the name "Holzem" came from the county of Daun, > district > > > > of Trier, Germany in 1869 and 1873: > > > > Christian Holzem, age 35, from Boxberg in 1873 > > > > Elisabeth Holzem, age 2, from Boxberg in 1873, > > > > Gertrud Holzem, age 27, from Boxberg in 1873, > > > > Johann Peter Holzem, age 58, from Heyroth in 1869, > > > > Magdalena Holzem, age 59, from Heyroth in 1869, > > > > Magdalena Holzem, age 32, from Heyroth in 1869, > > > > Peter Holzem, age 20, from Heyroth in 1869, > > > > Peter Holzem, age 4, from Boxberg in 1869, > > > > Vincenz Holzem, age 8, from Boxberg in 1873 > > > > Boxberg is in the parish of Beinhausen, Heyroth in the rarish of > > > > Niederehe. They are close together. The thelen and Michels names are > > > > located in this area, too !!!!! Perhaps the Michels family Mrs. Nokes > is > > > > researching came from this area, too ? It is possible, because the > > > > combination Michels-Thelen is typical for this region in the county of > > > > Daun ! > > > > > > > > > > > > yours sincerely > > > > > > > > Werner Lichter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ##################################### > > > > I thought I'd play out a "hunch" again... > > > > I kept feeling like there was some connection to the LENGER's moving > to > > > > Jefferson County--aside from the fact that people would need to > migrate > > > > west to stake land claims... The obituary for George MICHELS said that > > > > his body was "returned to his family in Jefferson for burial"....while > > > > back in Wisconsin last year--I traveled many country roads all around > > > > Jefferson County--stopping at numerous cemeteries...At St. Lawrence > > > > Cemetery, which is located on Hwy 18 out of Jefferson and toward > > > > Milwaukee...I found out that a Priest by the name of Rev. Anthony > > > > (Anton) MICHAELS had pastored there.. So I wrote to the Archdiocease > of > > > > Milwaukee a few weeks back--and said that I had searched the graveyard > > > > at St. Lawrence and had not located the grave for Father MICHAELS..and > > > > wondered if they had any records about his ministry or where he might > be > > > > buried... > > > > This is what they sent me: > > > > Rev. Anthony (Anton) Francis MICHAELS Born September 25, 1840 at > > > > Holsthum (Treves) Germany Studied at St. Francis Seminary Ordained > > > > August 12, 1868 in Milwaukee by Bishop Melchers of Green Bay for the > > > > diocease of Milwaukee Came to the diocease as a boy in 1857. As > priest > > > > in 1868. Came from Treves, Germany Incorporated into this diocease in > > > > 1868. Stationed at present St. Joseph's Convent in Milwaukee Formerly: > > > > St. Matthias, Beloit Rd.; St. Boniface, Germantown; Teachers Seminary, > > > > St. Francis; St. Laurence near Jefferson; St. Martin's, Ashford; St. > > > > Matthew's, New Castle; Winona, Minn. as chaplainto School Sisters of > St. > > > > Francis; St. Joseph's Convent as its spiritual director. He died as > the > > > > spiritual director of the School Sisters of St. Francis, Milwaukee. > > > > Died: July 18, 1911. Buried in Calvary Cemetery, Milwaukee > > > > ------------------ > > > > There are two sources of information about him and one varies in > > > > information regarding his ordination. The second record states that > he > > > > was ordained by Bishop J. M. Henni at St. Francis on August 12, 1868. > > > > The record > > > > above is the most complete with only the ordination information > varying. > > > > This ends what they sent to me... OK--I may be grasping at > > > > straws--but--- > > > > Notice the name of the town he was said to have born in: Holsthum... > > > > How closely this resembles the name HOLZEM or HOLZHEM.... > > > > Ann MICHELS, the daughter of George MICHELS and Anna Marie THELEN > > > > married a Jacob HOLZEM on November 05, 1861 at St. Anthony's, > > > > Fussville, Waukesha County, Wisconsin. Jacob's parents were : > Christian > > > > HOLZEM and Clementina (maiden name unknown). Ann MICHEL's sister was > Eva > > > > MICHELS who married Christian LENGER in a > > > > dual marriage ceremony on November 05, 1861 at St. Anthony's, > Fussville, > > > > Waukesha County, Wisconsin. > > > > I have information which says: "St. Martin's mission parish was > founded > > > > in July 1846. The congregation > > > > consisting of 21 German families, was attended by the St. Anthony > pastor > > > > every week before and after it had its own resident pastors. > St.Martin's > > > > mission school was conducted by two Chriatian Brothers from > > > > 1847-1849...." Could those two "Christian Brothers" have been > Christian > > > > Lenger (husband of Elizabeth Glesius) and Christian Holzem (father of > > > > Jacob Holzem)??? I realize that monks or acolytes are also known as > > > > "Brothers" in the Catholic church...but it seems strange that all of > > > > these families were in that area at the same time. Coincidence???? > > > > Could our families have been responsible for the building of that > > > > church?? Could they have moved to Jefferson after the ordination of > > > > Rev. Anton MICHAELS who then pastored at St. Laurence just outside of > > > > Jefferson??? Just a few questions--hoping I might find the answers... > > > > Fellow researcher, Susan > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > > > > >

Will someone please give me the complete address to access the webpage for posting queries, if there is such a page and address? I am having no luck by typing in Trier-Roots-L. Duane Lamers [email protected] --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup

Ernst, You're sure about that? I always thaught that since I pronounced it "ich" but it was written "ig" my pronounciation was dialect... Don't tell me I spoke correctly all this time? :-))) In any case I looked in my Duden, where of course Beurig is not listed, and found for "ewig" the pronounciation "ewic" which for me reads as "ig" and not "ich" for which the pronounciatio would be written "iç", same thing for "König" whose pronounciation is written "künic" and not "küniç". But then I alwasy had trouble reading those dictionnary pronounciations. Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Ernst Mettlach" <[email protected]> À : "barbara schnubel" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Envoyé : dimanche 23 juin 2002 08:30 Objet : Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Borg/Bourich--Tressel > Barbara, > > nouns with the ending "-ig" are pronounced as "-ich" in high german. Thats > not dialect. So it is correct to say "Beurich or "Koenich" or "ewich". > Take a look at the phonetic transcriptions in the Duden or Wahrig > dictionaries. > > Regards, > Ernst > Trier/Deutschland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: barbara schnubel <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Borg/Bourich--Tressel > > > > Hello, > > > > In this case you were right with Beurig. In the area the "ig" finals are > > often pronounced "ich"... that's dialect :-) And as they often wrote > > according to sound, it's logic to find "Beurich". > > > > Barbara > > France > > > > > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > > De : "edmonda" <[email protected]> > > À : <[email protected]> > > Envoyé : samedi 22 juin 2002 12:27 > > Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Borg/Bourich--Tressel > > > > > > > Hello, > > > In reading comments about the history of Borg and its previous > spellings, > > I am reminded of my ancestor's tombstone inscription-- > > > "Johann Tressel, Geb Beurich, Kries Trier, Regieringshezsch Saarberg, > Geb > > 17 June 1797." Obviously, many naive spelling errors in it. I had > decided > > that "Beurich" was Beurig, but possibly it should have been Borg? Johann > > came to Illinois in the early 1850's. > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > > to unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > >

Barbara, nouns with the ending "-ig" are pronounced as "-ich" in high german. Thats not dialect. So it is correct to say "Beurich or "Koenich" or "ewich". Take a look at the phonetic transcriptions in the Duden or Wahrig dictionaries. Regards, Ernst Trier/Deutschland ----- Original Message ----- From: barbara schnubel <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Borg/Bourich--Tressel > Hello, > > In this case you were right with Beurig. In the area the "ig" finals are > often pronounced "ich"... that's dialect :-) And as they often wrote > according to sound, it's logic to find "Beurich". > > Barbara > France > > > ----- Message d'origine ----- > De : "edmonda" <[email protected]> > À : <[email protected]> > Envoyé : samedi 22 juin 2002 12:27 > Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Borg/Bourich--Tressel > > > > Hello, > > In reading comments about the history of Borg and its previous spellings, > I am reminded of my ancestor's tombstone inscription-- > > "Johann Tressel, Geb Beurich, Kries Trier, Regieringshezsch Saarberg, Geb > 17 June 1797." Obviously, many naive spelling errors in it. I had decided > that "Beurich" was Beurig, but possibly it should have been Borg? Johann > came to Illinois in the early 1850's. > > Ann > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

Hi folks! I am looking for any information on Nicholas SCHUMACHER and Maria KLASSEN born in Trimport and emigrated to Roxbury, Wisconsin. Family info: Nicholas SCHUMACHER 14 Apr 1824 - 11 Feb 1905 married to Maria KLASSEN 18 Dec 1837 - 5 Nov 1917 Nicholas Schumacher parents: Petri SCHUMACHER and Mariae MORITZ Maria KLASSEN parents: Peter KLASSEN 23 Oct 1807 Langsur - Jun 1884 Eva BRANDT 11 Dec 1817 Trimport - Jan 1882 If you should know this family or have any hints on how I might find out more about this family I would much appreciate hearing from you. Regards, Howard

Story of Tirpitz sinking now running on US cable tv...Advertisment on History channel web pg says: ""Greatest Raids Sunday , June 23 3:00 PM-4:00 PM (next scheduled viewing) Sinking the Tirpitz The largest and fastest battleship cruising European waters, the Tirpitz was the pride of Germany's Kriegsmarine and the scourge of Britain's Royal Navy. In Norway, the Tirpitz lurked in the fjords, threatening vital Arctic and Atlantic convoys, and became Churchill's obsession. Yet no matter what U.S. and British naval and air forces threw at her, they couldn't stop her--each time she was damaged, she was mended. Until she met her nemesis in the massive 12,000-pound Tallboy bomb... TV PG"" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernst Mettlach" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 2:14 AM Subject: Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Translation > Hello, > "Tirpitz " (named after the WW1 admiral Alfred von Tirpitz) was a german > Battleship that sunk after beeing hit by british bombers in November 12 1944 > in Norway with a loss of nearly 1.000 men. > > Ernst Mettlach > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 12:01 AM > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Translation > > > > I am reviewing listings in the Osburg Family book and have two Bemerkung's > > (remarks) that are not translating when I use the various German to > English > > online translators. > > > > Sohn Josef Richard ist mit Kreigsschiff Tirpitz versuncken > > > > and > > > > Im 3 Grad verwand > > > > Thanks > > > > Jay > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > ______________________________

Hello, In this case you were right with Beurig. In the area the "ig" finals are often pronounced "ich"... that's dialect :-) And as they often wrote according to sound, it's logic to find "Beurich". Barbara France ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "edmonda" <[email protected]> À : <[email protected]> Envoyé : samedi 22 juin 2002 12:27 Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Borg/Bourich--Tressel > Hello, > In reading comments about the history of Borg and its previous spellings, I am reminded of my ancestor's tombstone inscription-- > "Johann Tressel, Geb Beurich, Kries Trier, Regieringshezsch Saarberg, Geb 17 June 1797." Obviously, many naive spelling errors in it. I had decided that "Beurich" was Beurig, but possibly it should have been Borg? Johann came to Illinois in the early 1850's. > Ann > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

Hello, "Tirpitz " (named after the WW1 admiral Alfred von Tirpitz) was a german Battleship that sunk after beeing hit by british bombers in November 12 1944 in Norway with a loss of nearly 1.000 men. Ernst Mettlach ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Translation > I am reviewing listings in the Osburg Family book and have two Bemerkung's > (remarks) that are not translating when I use the various German to English > online translators. > > Sohn Josef Richard ist mit Kreigsschiff Tirpitz versuncken > > and > > Im 3 Grad verwand > > Thanks > > Jay > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

Joe, Are you aware of the wealth of information at Stearns County??? I am sending the following--as you may be very interested. I have not yet sent for copies of these records...would love to have copies if you send for them--perhaps we could split the cost?? Author: Title: Michels, Nicholas, 1825-1899 Subject: Michels, Anna J. (Denzer), 1829-1911 Notes: Genre: Clippings (Book, newspaper, etc.); Registers Colla: 3 items === Call Number: CS71 .M534 M534 Author: Michels, Jim, 1927- Title: Michels family tree / Subject: Michels family. Notes: In ring binder. Genre: Colla: [126 p.] : ill., ports. ; 29 cm. === Number: BIOGRAPHICAL FILES Author: Title: Orth, August A., 1891-1977 Subject: Orth, Mary C. (Michels), d. 1953 Notes: Residences: St. Joseph Township (Stearns County, Minn.), St. Cloud, Sartell Genre: Clippings (Book, newspaper, etc.) Colla: 1 item === Author: Title: Michels, Nicholas, 1825-1899 Subject: Michels, Anna J. (Denzer), 1829-1911 Notes: Genre: Clippings (Book, newspaper, etc.); Registers Colla: 3 items === OH 90 Author: Feneis, John A. b. 1886. Title: Interview Subject: Feneis, John A. b. 1886. Catholic Church. Diocese of St. Cloud (Minn.) -- History. Great Northern Railway Company (U.S.) -- History. St. Joseph's Catholic Church (Waite Park, Minn.) -- History. Railroads -- Minnesota -- Waite Park -- History. Notes: Genre: Colla: 1 sound cassette (50 min. ; 5/8 ips) : analog ; 4 x 2 1/2 x1/4 in. + 1 transcript (21 p.) === Call Number: BIOGRAPHICAL FILES Author: Title: Neis, Cyril T., 1922-1998 Subject: Neis, Clara (Philipsek) Notes: Residences: Rockville township (Stearns County(MN), St. Cloud. Genre: Miscellanea. Colla: 1 item. === Call Number: BIOGRAPHICAL FILES Author: Title: Eichers, Michael E., 1875-1961 Subject: Eichers, Mary (Neis) Notes: Residences: Cold Spring, Rockville (MN) Genre: Obituaries ; Directories ; Maps Colla: 4 items, map === Call Number: Biographical Files Author: Title: Neis, Bernard, 1824-1881 Subject: Neis, Elizabeth, d. 1906 ~ Neis, Anna ~ Neis, John, d. 1901 Notes: Residences: Germany, St. Joseph Township (Stearns County, Minn.) ~ One item in German Genre: Clippings (Book, newspaper, etc.); Registers; Photocopy from books; Maps Colla: 16 items, maps === Call Number: Biographical Files Author: Title: Neis, John H. Subject: Neis, Theresia (Oster) Notes: Residence: Stearns County (Minn.) Genre: Genealogical Chart; Miscellanea. Colla: 2 items, genealogical chart === Call Number: Biographical Files Author: Title: Neis, Martin, 1882-1952 Subject: Neis, Margaret A. (Kremer), 1885-1967 ~ Neis, Leonard J. Notes: Residences: Pearl Lake (Minn.), St. Cloud (Minn.) Genre: Miscellanea Colla: 2 items, ports === Author Title VIEW Feneis, John A. b. 1886. Interview VIEW Neis, Cyril T., 1922-1998 VIEW Round Barns, 1977-2000 VIEW Eichers, Michael E., 1875-1961 VIEW Feneis, Aloys J., 1893-1985. VIEW Feneis, John N., 1850-1940. VIEW Feneis, Wendelin VIEW Goetten, Peter, Sr., 1832-1910 VIEW Mrozek, Sylvester, 1916-1989 VIEW Neis, Bernard, 1824-1881 VIEW Neis, George VIEW Neis, John H. VIEW Neis, Martin, 1882-1952 VIEW Neis, Norbert W., 1906-1984 VIEW Neis, Peter Joseph, 1832-1912 VIEW Neis, Thomas, 1886-1977 VIEW Neussendorfer Family VIEW Reinert, John A., b. 1875 VIEW Curtis, Theodore V., 1888-1960 Author Title VIEW Schwinghammer, Henry, Sr., 1872-1967 VIEW Schwinghammer, Joseph, 1837-1916 VIEW Neis, Arthur J. Interview === Author Title VIEW Primus, Mary Culp. Interview VIEW Kramer, John J., 1831-1905 VIEW Leukam, George, 1859-1931 VIEW Imdieke, Joseph, 1840-1928. VIEW Meyer, Edwin, 1918-1999 VIEW Primus, Clarence J., 1911-1975 VIEW Primus, Donald, 1919-1991 VIEW Primus, Joseph, 1857-1921 VIEW Primus, John Sr. , 1863-1939 VIEW Schneider, Henry, d. 1914 VIEW Primus, Clothilda (Mrs. A.J.) (1897- Interview === Author Title VIEW New Munich Creamery, 1917-1943 VIEW [Garbe, Mary Lee Meyer], 1949- Meyer Nathe. VIEW [Schulte, Daniel A.], 1947- Nathe pedigree and register. VIEW [Garbe, Mary Lee Meyer], 1949- Schwieters-Nathe. VIEW Kulzer, Joseph, 1873-1966 VIEW Cullen, James B., D.D.S., 1891-1954 VIEW Otte, Bernard, b. 1857 VIEW Nathe, Arnold, 1913-1998 VIEW Nathe, Anton, 1834-1900 VIEW Nathe, Beverly (Notch) VIEW Nathe, Casper, 1840-1893 VIEW Nathe, Casper J. VIEW Nathe, Frank, 1863-1900 VIEW Nathe, Joseph, b. 1836 VIEW Nathe, Wilhelm, 1793-1843 VIEW Rohling, William, b. ca. 1905 VIEW Schwartz, Ferdinand J. "Fred," 1904-1997 VIEW Schwieters/Nathe family history VIEW Meyer, Herman H., 1869-1935 VIEW Stroeing, Henry, 1885-1969 Next >> Author Title VIEW Zierden, Mathias, 1821-1900 VIEW Zierden, Peter J., 1866-1948 VIEW Nathe, Amanda (Mrs. Edward) (1906- Interview VIEW Nathe, John and Virginia Interview VIEW Klein, Henry, 1837?-1922. VIEW Niermann, Herman 1859-1937 === Author Title VIEW Weisser, Albert, 1857-1924. VIEW Weisser, Frank, 1885-1957 VIEW Weisser, Ferdinand, 1818-1895 VIEW Weisser, Mary Blonigen (Walz), 1857-1944 VIEW Schneider, John J., 1882-1937. === Can all be found at: http://archives.stearns-museum.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Schmitt To: Susan Nokes Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Michels Susan, Michels difficult? Yes! See what I have below. My interest stems from Henry Michels wife Anna Neis sister to my great-grandmother Margaretha Neis Bold. My connection to that generation was closer, perhaps, than yours. That's how I happened to receive and preserve the photo albums that belonged to my grandparents with all their relatives "back east". I may have some more information on the Uniontown WA line in the vertical file but first must look. I'll get the photos together to send. Joe

Hello, In reading comments about the history of Borg and its previous spellings, I am reminded of my ancestor's tombstone inscription-- "Johann Tressel, Geb Beurich, Kries Trier, Regieringshezsch Saarberg, Geb 17 June 1797." Obviously, many naive spelling errors in it. I had decided that "Beurich" was Beurig, but possibly it should have been Borg? Johann came to Illinois in the early 1850's. Ann

Here you go : Son Josef Richard has sunk with war ship Tirpitz and Related in 3rd grade. Barbara France ----- Message d'origine ----- De : <[email protected]> À : <[email protected]> Envoyé : samedi 22 juin 2002 00:01 Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Translation > I am reviewing listings in the Osburg Family book and have two Bemerkung's > (remarks) that are not translating when I use the various German to English > online translators. > > Sohn Josef Richard ist mit Kreigsschiff Tirpitz versuncken > > and > > Im 3 Grad verwand > > Thanks > > Jay > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

I am researching my ancestors who come from a cluster of towns/villages located near Kreis Krueznach. I know how and where to find parish and civil records for these towns but I can't seem to get a handle on how to record the various locations across time in my Family Tree Maker database. For example: was Kreis Krueznach always part of Koblenz? During what years was it part of Prussia, French Republic, Germany, etc. Here are the towns I am searching during the years 1760 - 1832: Bretzenheim Heddesheim Winzenheim Wallhausen Rudesheim Waldhilbersheim Sponheim Planig etc. I would appreciate any help in understanding this history and geography of this area. Regards, Nancy

I am reviewing listings in the Osburg Family book and have two Bemerkung's (remarks) that are not translating when I use the various German to English online translators. Sohn Josef Richard ist mit Kreigsschiff Tirpitz versuncken and Im 3 Grad verwand Thanks Jay

Hutterscheid is on Tom Pick's site. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: gosselin r & d Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Bitburg I would appreciate help on the following Bitburg area surnames: Roehler from Hutterscheid, Stalbush from Hutterscheid, Bill and Barg from Orenhofer, would like to hear from anyone working with these families. Thanks Ralph ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribeGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Dee, Will be great to see everyone next week. We will be stopping to see St. Anthony Mission and Carmel on the way up. Ruth Erway P.O.Box 39 San Ynez, CA 93460

Duane, Type the town or village name followed by .de in a search engine. If you don't get something, try other search engines. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Kyle Lamers Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Village photographs My Bangart ancestors are from Trimport, Auw, and Wolsfeld. I am interested in photos of these places, including churches. Is there a website or other source for such photos? Duane E. Lamers [email protected] more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com