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    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V02 #184
    2. Gauleiter - A Political Officer, normally associated now with the Third Reich, not a popular term any longer. Trade Unionist = Syndicalist, Syndicalist is also in disfavor as it was used extensively by the Fascists. Working from memory, hope this is correct. JJ Korman Bottom Gun

    07/25/2002 04:25:19
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland between the two world wars
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. First a little commentar : The term "Gauleiter" is a rank and is translated, according to my dictionnary, by Gauleiter... I cannot tell to what it could correspond exactly. I am not sure if I did right to put "Syndicalists" for people of a trade-union... Could somebody tell me if this is right or not please? The Referendum battle 1934/35 Home to the Empire Until Hitler took the power, nearly all people of Saarland had the same opinion : in the Referendum scheduled in the treaty of Versailles, they were going to vote for going back to the "hereditary Fatherland". Only when the National Socialists took the power this common decision broke down. On one side there were those who were openly anti-fascist. They wanted to keep the actual state of things, the "Status quo" until the fall of the NS regime in the Empire. Only then would be decided the future of the belonging of the Saar area. To reach this objective, social-democrats and communists formed in the summer of 1934 a "Unity front". Catholics under Johannes Hoffmann joined them also. All groups hoped to be able to "beat Hitler on the Saar". On the other side were those who still were for the return. Some did it in spite of Hitler. They were supported by the church who described the love for the Fatherland as a moral duty. The others did it because of Hitler. Many among them didn't want to stay beside the "Dawning of the new Germany". As a seemingly mass movement over the parties for the return, the Nazis steered the "German Front". With massive propaganda means and with opinion terror the people of the Saarland were sweared in to the idea of the "national community". Those who stayed outside were labelled traitors. The Referendum on 13th January 1935 took place through a referendum commission of the Society of Nations and under the protection of an international troop. 90.7 % of the people of the Saarland decided the return. Hitler had won his first success in extern politics. The "Third Reich" took over the governing power on the Saar on 1st March 1935. Immediately after the announce of the results many of the Status-Quo-Movement had emigrated. The Saar in the third Reich - Home? The political unity "Saar area" created in Versailles was not dissolved after the return. The National Socialists put the new "Saarland" under the Gauleiter of the Palatinate Josef Bürckel. As "Commissar of the Empire for the return of the Saarland" (from June 1936 "Commissar of the Empire for the Saarland") he brought many people of the Palatinate with him to the Saar. After the 13th January 1935 about 8000 people from Saarland emigrated. Many of them fell later in the hands of the Nazis, mostly after the occupation of France. People from the Saarland fought in Spain for the Republic and organised from Forbach the Resistance in the Saar - mostly Syndicalists, Social-democrats and Communists. On the Christian side there was also Resistance against the National-socialism - mostly against the removal of crucifixes from the school classes and the abolition of the denominational school. When after the return the salaries diminished and the prices and taxes climbed, there were strikes in the industries and at the beginning 1937 there was an open conflict between border passers from Saarland and the national-socialist State because of the rules resented as negative on the change of money. Thousands of people from the Saarland fell in the hands of the Gestapo. Hundreds of them went in a concentration camp. Many did never come back. In February 1937 were executed the first death sentences against anti-fascists from Saarland. The planned persecution of the Jews began later in the Saarland as in the Rest of the Empire. Many could leave without problems until the beginning of 1936 because of international guaranties. In the "Night of Crystal of the Empire" from the 9th and 10th November 1938, National Socialists put also fire in the Synagogues of the Saar, deported Jews in concentration camp and looted their homes.

    07/25/2002 09:44:05
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Re: Saarland in the first World War
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. The Saar area in the first world war Life behind the lines The Saar area was during the whole first world war, area of base and marching through for the troops. Everywhere were created military hospitals. Right at the beginning the civil railroad traffic broke down and stayed very limited for the whole time of the war. One of the consequences : Because of the lack of coke and ore, the iron and steel works stopped temporarily to function. The coal mining diminished strongly. Many men were drafted - more than in the rest of Germany. It was tried to replace them with older and younger workers. In an extent never seen before, women had also to accomplish heavy work. Moreover : thousands of Russian War prisoners. Since the summer of 1915, the whole industrial area was the objective of air attacks. The number of casualties and the damages stayed low but the war showed a wholly new face. The supply situation went steady from bad to worse. Already in August 1914, high prices were fixed. In the spring of 1915 the bread became rationed, followed by other foodstuffs. The winter 1916/17 was for the population a "Hunger winter". The "Home front" proved its readiness for sacrifice and contribution. The schoolchildren were constantly called upon to collect things, like stinging nettles. After the cease-fire on 11th November 1918, French troops followed the retreating German soldiers and occupied the Saar area. They stopped immediately the activity of the Workers- and Soldiers Counsels. The Saar area under the authority of the Society of Nations. Solution of time. In the time of the occupation, showed up time and again the tension between French Military and the population. Thus there were strikes in the spring and the autumn of 1919. On 10th January 1920 the treaty of Versailles came into force. The Saar rules contained in the treaty were a compromise between the annexation wishes of France and the right to self determination of the peoples promoted by the US president Wilson. - A governmental commission of the Society of Nations takes over the administration of the Prussian-Bavarian industrial area on the Saar, including the areas of workers houses. - After 15 years, the population should decide over the future belonging of the area. - As reparation France receives the propriety of the Saar mines. The international government commission (Reko) of 5 people began its work on 26th February 1920. Until 1926 its president was the French Rault. Through him France determined the politic in the Saar. The relationship between government and population stayed tense. A real parliament representation was lacking. The Land Council instituted in 1922 had only a counsel function. But it became a forum for Saarlands interests. As proprietor of the Saar mines, France was the most powerful employer on the Saar. Through this it got several possibilities of economic and cultural influence : Introduction of the Franc on 1st June 1923 as general payment means. The "Mines domaniales" organised for the children of their employees their own schools (Domanial schools), in which was teached also the French language. Important manifestations of national belonging were : - the "Hundred-Days-Strike" of the miners in 1923 - The "Rhineland Millenary feast" in 1925, which was mostly organised and executed by the associations.

    07/24/2002 06:20:37
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] service
    2. kathpfeil
    3. Bonsoir a tous je suis entrain de relevée tous les nomades au AD de Nancy j'aimerais si quelques volonté serais pret a me consacre 2 h pour recherche dans les AD de leur departements les nomades et Saltimbanques pour moi sait trés important merci d'avance a ceux qui voudront bien m'aider amicalement et gros bisous kath ********************************************************** [email protected] rech:09/12/54/57/67/68/70/88/Italie/Allemagne Ma généalogie personnelle http://katherine.pfeil.free.fr/ http://www.ma-généalogie.org/pfeil / ********************************************

    07/24/2002 05:38:30
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland in the first World War
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. The Saar area in the first world war Life behind the lines The Saar area was during the whole first world war, area of base and marching through for the troops. Everywhere were created military hospitals. Right at the beginning the civil railroad traffic broke down and stayed very limited for the whole time of the war. One of the consequences : Because of the lack of coke and ore, the iron and steel works stopped temporarily to function. The coal mining diminished strongly. Many men were drafted - more than in the rest of Germany. It was tried to replace them with older and younger workers. In an extent never seen before, women had also to accomplish heavy work. Moreover : thousands of Russian War prisoners. Since the summer of 1915, the whole industrial area was the objective of air attacks. The number of casualties and the damages stayed low but the war showed a wholly new face. The supply situation went steady from bad to worse. Already in August 1914, high prices were fixed. In the spring of 1915 the bread became rationed, followed by other foodstuffs. The winter 1916/17 was for the population a "Hunger winter". The "Home front" proved its readiness for sacrifice and contribution. The schoolchildren were constantly called upon to collect things, like stinging nettles. After the cease-fire on 11th November 1918, French troops followed the retreating German soldiers and occupied the Saar area. They stopped immediately the activity of the Workers- and Soldiers Counsels. The Saar area under the authority of the Society of Nations. Solution of time. In the time of the occupation, showed up time and again the tension between French Military and the population. Thus there were strikes in the spring and the autumn of 1919. On 10th January 1920 the treaty of Versailles came into force. The Saar rules contained in the treaty were a compromise between the annexation wishes of France and the right to self determination of the peoples promoted by the US president Wilson. - A governmental commission of the Society of Nations takes over the administration of the Prussian-Bavarian industrial area on the Saar, including the areas of workers houses. - After 15 years, the population should decide over the future belonging of the area. - As reparation France receives the propriety of the Saar mines. The international government commission (Reko) of 5 people began its work on 26th February 1920. Until 1926 its president was the French Rault. Through him France determined the politic in the Saar. The relationship between government and population stayed tense. A real parliament representation was lacking. The Land Council instituted in 1922 had only a counsel function. But it became a forum for Saarlands interests. As proprietor of the Saar mines, France was the most powerful employer on the Saar. Through this it got several possibilities of economic and cultural influence : Introduction of the Franc on 1st June 1923 as general payment means. The "Mines domaniales" organised for the children of their employees their own schools (Domanial schools), in which was teached also the French language. Important manifestations of national belonging were : - the "Hundred-Days-Strike" of the miners in 1923 - The "Rhineland Millenary feast" in 1925, which was mostly organised and executed by the associations.

    07/23/2002 10:54:22
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Trier area and Linen weavers
    2. T Ossmann
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. If you can read this line, your email software does not support this format. --MyFaMiLyMiMeBoUnDaRy02292000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was a discussion of weaving and flax-growing on NIEDERSACHSEN-L a couple of years ago. It seems to have been a fairly popular cottage industry. I don't have specifics about the Trier region, but for those interested in the linen-making process, there's a nice description with illustrations here: http://www.hvm-krengerup.dk/gb/manuel_gb.htm . Also, in 2000, Uwe Weddige posted a detailed description of the process to the Niedersachsen list. It's in the archives here (German): http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/N/NIEDERSACHSEN+2000+11761560094+F I posted an English translation here: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/N/NIEDERSACHSEN+2000+11951597545+F Regards, Tracy Researching in and around Otzenhausen, Kr. Trier: WILHELM, DETAMPEL and allied families _____________________________________________________________________ Get your own family web site at at www.MyFamily.com! --MyFaMiLyMiMeBoUnDaRy02292000--

    07/23/2002 10:34:30
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Trier area and Linen weavers
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. I have also quite a lot of "linen weavers" among my ancestors, seems to have been an important profession in the area and thus there must have been enough of this crop in the area (I don't think they could have taken it from very far away). Schmitt being a very common name (like Smith in the States...), I have also some but not in the same town. Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : <[email protected]> À : <[email protected]> Envoyé : mardi 23 juillet 2002 16:01 Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Trier area and Linen weavers > A subject I don't hear too much about; > a family group of my ancestors records say they were "linen weavers" was flax > a major crop of the area? Does anyone have information about this subject? > Names I am researching in the Trier area are: > TRIERWIELER (from Welschbillig and Udelfangen), HORN (From Wintersdorf), > MUNKEL, SCHMITT and KEIL(from Ralingen) > also in case anyone needs information from Ralingen or Welschbillig I have > Family books from there. > [email protected] > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

    07/23/2002 10:25:27
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland - The French-German War 1870-1871
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. I forgot : Not only everything turned around the coal mines and the steel works in Saarland and Lorraine until the 1970s, but moreover the coal, iron and steel were exactly the big cause for which Germany and France both wanted this area so much. Since men have been able to make guns and canons, the Saar and Lorraine coal had become a strategic very important factor and the one who disposed of this necessary first material to make war was the one who had a big advantage... That's also why after the second world war a man from Lorraine, Robert Schuhmann, seeing the heavy suffering of the people of Saarland and Lorraine (who were not those who had decided to make war but who were those who suffered most of it) had the idea that to prevent any further war, it was necessary to put coal and steel in a common pool - this was the creation of the European Coal and Steel Union, the forefather of the European Community. Thus one could say that the Saar-Lor-Lux area (Saarland-Lorraine-Luxemburg) has been the cradle of modern Europe. That's something we can be proud of :-) Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "aellis" <[email protected]> À : "barbara schnubel" <[email protected]> Envoyé : mardi 23 juillet 2002 03:05 Objet : Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland - The French-German War 1870-1871 > ...Barbara > ...Thanks once again for the history. I wasn't aware of the influence > of the iron and steel mines on the political history of Saarland, > Alice > > barbara schnubel wrote: > > > > Happy that my little historic sections seem to please. In the following > > there is a word I didn't find : "Schlägel" : the heavy hammer of the miner. > > If somebody knows what the English word could be... > > > > The French-German War 1870/71 > > Saarbrücken as focal point > > > > In the German War of 1866, Prussia had vanquished Austria. Prussia took the > > leadership of the North German Union. Following that, France saw its > > influence diminish and was decided to prevent any further development of the > > Prussian might, particularly in South Germany. A diplomatic incident was > > enough as spark. > > > > 2d August 1870 The French advance is directed against the middle Saar. Old > > Saarbrücken is occupied. Emperor Napoleon himself follows with his fifteen > > years old son Lulu, the advance of his troops from a big stone called later > > the "Lulu-Stone". > > > > 5th August 1870 The French move away. > > 6th August 1870 In order to facilitate the passing of the Saar river, at > > about noon Prussian troops proceed against the French Spicherer Hights. > > They are successful at the beginning. In the afternoon things seem to > > change and in the evening the French withdraw in good order. On the battle > > field remain nearly 9 000 dead and wounded - Germans and French. > > > > The Saarland economic area in the empire. Development to big industry. > > > > In the second part of the 19th century, the mines of the Saarland could > > multiply their production - however not in the same way than in the Ruhr. > > The biggest buyers of the coal were the iron and steel works in the > > Saarland. Because of the lesser coke quality of the Saar coal, those mines > > bought also mines in the Ruhr and in the area of Aachen. From there always > > came a part of the coke coal. > > > > At the same time the iron and steel works of the Saarland took an > > orientation towards the West. The "Saar-Lor-Lux" > > (Saarland-Lorraine-Luxemburg) area took form at this time. The iron and > > steel works of Saarland bought in the border area Luxemburg-Lorrain and in > > the west of Lorraine their own ore fields from which they got the Minette > > ore. This was facilitated through the annexation from Alsace-Lorraine in > > 1871. But the smelting of the Minette rich in phosphorus became possible in > > bigger extent only with the Thomas-process invented in 1879. In the last > > twenty years of the century, the iron and steel works of Saarland > > constructed also works in the west of Lorraine and in Luxemburg. From them > > they got the biggest part of the pig-iron. > > > > Entrepreneurs in the Saar area - Private works, State mines. > > > > The biggest employer on the Saar was the Prussian state - as proprietor of > > the coal mines. Prussia was thus not only the political decider but also > > the economic, and it used this might consciously. > > > > Even in the bad years the administration of the mines gave big surpluses to > > the State. This was possible because of the low salaries they paid till the > > last third of the 19th century. With this the mining administration counted > > on the great self-sufficiency of the Saar miners and their families and on > > the performance of the company support system. The rest of the Saar industry > > was at the hands of entrepreneur families of which most were immigrated > > protestant middle-class. The important iron works family Stumm of the > > Hunsrück, came at about the beginning of the 19th century to the Saar. Carl > > Ferdinand von Stumm-Halberg marked with his "system of the mild and of the > > strong hand" the whole area of the Saar, the "Stumm Kingdom". Moreover he > > participated as deputy fundamentally in the shaping of the economic and the > > social politic of the Empire. > > > > Workers movement on the Saar - "One for all and all for one" > > > > A worker movement in the Saar area saw its beginnings only after the war of > > 1870/71. The authorities and the entrepreneurs reacted immediately : they > > founded a "committee of employers to fight the social democracy". On 6th > > July 1877 this committee decided the so-called "Socialist law of the Saar > > industry". This law was also against all syndicalist movements. > > > > Mai 1889: Strike of the miners (first massive strike in the Saar industry). > > The miner from Hasborn, Nikolaus Warken, called Eckstein, leaded the > > strikers. > > > > End of July 1889: Under the leadership of Warken and under the influence of > > the centre, miners form together the "Association for the defense of the > > rights for the mining population of the administrative district of Bonn". > > Very soon the association becomes a syndicate. More than two thirds of all > > miners become members. > > > > - Warken is candidate in 1890 for the Reichstag, > > > > a.. Miners construct in Bildstock the Defense Hall, > > b.. A own journal - "Schlägel and Iron" - begins publication. > > > > After that the association is weakened. Causes : > > > > a.. Attacks because supposed, in fact real, attempted rapprochement to > > the > > SPD, > > b.. Inexperience of the leadership, the catholic church turned away. > > The strikes in Mai 1891 and at end 1892/ beginning 1893 failed. The movement > > breaks down. > > > > Only after the death of Stumm (1901) there are again syndicalist > > associations. The catholic workers associations, ("Berliner Richtung"), > > existing since the middle of the century, have a syndicalist activity. > > Rivals become the interdenominational Christian Syndicates, like the > > "Gewerkverein christlicher Bergleute" (Association of Christian miners), and > > the "free associations" near of the SPD. But they don't have a big > > influence till the first world war. > > > > The political look-out till the first world war. Elections to the > > Reichstag : The vote on the Saar > > > > The Revolution of July 1830 in Paris activated also the political life on > > the Saar. But only in the Revolution of 1848 all layers of the population > > took part. In Saarbrücken, Merzig and St. Wendel were created democratic > > citizens associations. > > > > The dominating political force till the first world war were in the smaller > > industrial area - the constituency Saarbrücken - the Liberals, first as > > progressist party and, from 1867 on, as national liberals. However in the > > greater area with its mostly country and catholic areas, the Centre had a > > strong advance. It had the constituency Saarburg-Merzig-Saarlouis > > unchallenged. In the constituency Ottweiler - St. Wendel-Meisenheim it faced > > the free Conservatives under the leadership of Stumm. The Centre got here a > > deputy to the Reichstag for the first time in 1903. > > > > In the Palatinate administrative district of Homburg, the National Liberals > > were in advance on the Centre. Here the association of farmers became a > > strong political force. > > > > The social Democrats stayed quite without influence until the first world > > war. This was in contrast to the development in the rest of the Empire. > > > > The causes : > > > > a.. Politic, social and religious structure of the area, > > b. Massive pression from the authorities and entrepreneurs. > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe

    07/23/2002 09:45:30
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Schlägel
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. Hi all, Several people have written me to say that the "Schlägel" is most probably a sledge hammer. Anyway this is quite close for sure unless the miners use another word for it. Barbara

    07/23/2002 09:04:51
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Trier area and Linen weavers
    2. A subject I don't hear too much about; a family group of my ancestors records say they were "linen weavers" was flax a major crop of the area? Does anyone have information about this subject? Names I am researching in the Trier area are: TRIERWIELER (from Welschbillig and Udelfangen), HORN (From Wintersdorf), MUNKEL, SCHMITT and KEIL(from Ralingen) also in case anyone needs information from Ralingen or Welschbillig I have Family books from there. [email protected]

    07/23/2002 04:01:42
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] RE: TRIER-ROOTS-D Digest V02 #181
    2. Mike Fox
    3. I have been enjoying the Saarland histories very much. Thank you. Mike Fox San Antonio, Texas

    07/23/2002 02:38:32
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland - The French-German War 1870-1871
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. Happy that my little historic sections seem to please. In the following there is a word I didn't find : "Schlägel" : the heavy hammer of the miner. If somebody knows what the English word could be... The French-German War 1870/71 Saarbrücken as focal point In the German War of 1866, Prussia had vanquished Austria. Prussia took the leadership of the North German Union. Following that, France saw its influence diminish and was decided to prevent any further development of the Prussian might, particularly in South Germany. A diplomatic incident was enough as spark. 2d August 1870 The French advance is directed against the middle Saar. Old Saarbrücken is occupied. Emperor Napoleon himself follows with his fifteen years old son Lulu, the advance of his troops from a big stone called later the "Lulu-Stone". 5th August 1870 The French move away. 6th August 1870 In order to facilitate the passing of the Saar river, at about noon Prussian troops proceed against the French Spicherer Hights. They are successful at the beginning. In the afternoon things seem to change and in the evening the French withdraw in good order. On the battle field remain nearly 9 000 dead and wounded - Germans and French. The Saarland economic area in the empire. Development to big industry. In the second part of the 19th century, the mines of the Saarland could multiply their production - however not in the same way than in the Ruhr. The biggest buyers of the coal were the iron and steel works in the Saarland. Because of the lesser coke quality of the Saar coal, those mines bought also mines in the Ruhr and in the area of Aachen. From there always came a part of the coke coal. At the same time the iron and steel works of the Saarland took an orientation towards the West. The "Saar-Lor-Lux" (Saarland-Lorraine-Luxemburg) area took form at this time. The iron and steel works of Saarland bought in the border area Luxemburg-Lorrain and in the west of Lorraine their own ore fields from which they got the Minette ore. This was facilitated through the annexation from Alsace-Lorraine in 1871. But the smelting of the Minette rich in phosphorus became possible in bigger extent only with the Thomas-process invented in 1879. In the last twenty years of the century, the iron and steel works of Saarland constructed also works in the west of Lorraine and in Luxemburg. From them they got the biggest part of the pig-iron. Entrepreneurs in the Saar area - Private works, State mines. The biggest employer on the Saar was the Prussian state - as proprietor of the coal mines. Prussia was thus not only the political decider but also the economic, and it used this might consciously. Even in the bad years the administration of the mines gave big surpluses to the State. This was possible because of the low salaries they paid till the last third of the 19th century. With this the mining administration counted on the great self-sufficiency of the Saar miners and their families and on the performance of the company support system. The rest of the Saar industry was at the hands of entrepreneur families of which most were immigrated protestant middle-class. The important iron works family Stumm of the Hunsrück, came at about the beginning of the 19th century to the Saar. Carl Ferdinand von Stumm-Halberg marked with his "system of the mild and of the strong hand" the whole area of the Saar, the "Stumm Kingdom". Moreover he participated as deputy fundamentally in the shaping of the economic and the social politic of the Empire. Workers movement on the Saar - "One for all and all for one" A worker movement in the Saar area saw its beginnings only after the war of 1870/71. The authorities and the entrepreneurs reacted immediately : they founded a "committee of employers to fight the social democracy". On 6th July 1877 this committee decided the so-called "Socialist law of the Saar industry". This law was also against all syndicalist movements. Mai 1889: Strike of the miners (first massive strike in the Saar industry). The miner from Hasborn, Nikolaus Warken, called Eckstein, leaded the strikers. End of July 1889: Under the leadership of Warken and under the influence of the centre, miners form together the "Association for the defense of the rights for the mining population of the administrative district of Bonn". Very soon the association becomes a syndicate. More than two thirds of all miners become members. - Warken is candidate in 1890 for the Reichstag, a.. Miners construct in Bildstock the Defense Hall, b.. A own journal - "Schlägel and Iron" - begins publication. After that the association is weakened. Causes : a.. Attacks because supposed, in fact real, attempted rapprochement to the SPD, b.. Inexperience of the leadership, the catholic church turned away. The strikes in Mai 1891 and at end 1892/ beginning 1893 failed. The movement breaks down. Only after the death of Stumm (1901) there are again syndicalist associations. The catholic workers associations, ("Berliner Richtung"), existing since the middle of the century, have a syndicalist activity. Rivals become the interdenominational Christian Syndicates, like the "Gewerkverein christlicher Bergleute" (Association of Christian miners), and the "free associations" near of the SPD. But they don't have a big influence till the first world war. The political look-out till the first world war. Elections to the Reichstag : The vote on the Saar The Revolution of July 1830 in Paris activated also the political life on the Saar. But only in the Revolution of 1848 all layers of the population took part. In Saarbrücken, Merzig and St. Wendel were created democratic citizens associations. The dominating political force till the first world war were in the smaller industrial area - the constituency Saarbrücken - the Liberals, first as progressist party and, from 1867 on, as national liberals. However in the greater area with its mostly country and catholic areas, the Centre had a strong advance. It had the constituency Saarburg-Merzig-Saarlouis unchallenged. In the constituency Ottweiler - St. Wendel-Meisenheim it faced the free Conservatives under the leadership of Stumm. The Centre got here a deputy to the Reichstag for the first time in 1903. In the Palatinate administrative district of Homburg, the National Liberals were in advance on the Centre. Here the association of farmers became a strong political force. The social Democrats stayed quite without influence until the first world war. This was in contrast to the development in the rest of the Empire. The causes : a.. Politic, social and religious structure of the area, b. Massive pression from the authorities and entrepreneurs.

    07/22/2002 04:38:53
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland - around 1835
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. Here the first more detailed section. Since it's not possible to keep the pictures in the text when sending it to the list, you may have a look at them on the following website : http://www.saarland.de/einblicke_landesgeschichte_4827.htm Barbara The Saarlands around 1835 The territory of the actual Saarland was divided in 3 parts 150 years ago the Saarland didn't exist - nor as political, nor as cultural or economic unity. The governments were outside and the area at the border with France was for them "province". - The biggest part of the actual Saarland belonged to Prussia, more exactly to the Prussian Rhineland, administrative area of Trier. - The second biggest part belonged to Bavaria, the Bavarian Rhine area (Rheinpfalz - Rhineland-Palatinate) with the siege of government in Speyer. - The littlest part belonged to Oldenburg, because the county of Birkenfeld was propriety of this great duchy. Between those areas there were still true customs at the borders before 1834. Only afterwards the barriers, the customs inspectors and the controls between Bavaria and Prussia disappeared; and only from 1851 on people were able to pass the border with Oldenburg without problem - on foot, on horse or horse cart. Technical innovations and the change of the supply of first materials and of energy gave to the industry strong impulsions to grow and offered to immigrants from the neighbouring areas new workplaces. In this way developed in the south point of the Prussian Rhine province and in the outmost west of the Bavarian Palatinate a coal and steel province with a particular character, which very soon found itself in the middle of the tensions between France and Germany. In the course of one century the industrial area and the settlements of its workers grew together to form a own area with a strong centre and, according to the political and economic events, changing borders. This process corresponds to the general knowledge about the strength of formation of economic factors for the creation of functional area units. Economic development - Industry and traffic develop The mines of the Saar put in service the newest invention of this time: the steam engine. The shaft exploitation took the place of the old gallery exploitation, and the need for workers grew - even with those innovations. Because the abolition of the customs borders between Bavaria and Prussia opened a new and important market for the coal of the Saar : South Germany. The steelworks worked also with the steam engine. With this they became independent from the water force and were able to choose freely their place of exploitation. Since the local iron mines run out, they took from then on their most important first materials from the Lahn. Instead of charcoal they now used coke - made with the coal of the Saar. The technical conditions were good, but the traffic conditions were bad. A solution to this problem arrived only with the "steam engine on wheels": the railway. 1849 was terminated the Palatinate Ludwigs railway going till the Bavarian border at Bexbach, 1851 the French east railway going from Paris through Metz to Forbach and Stieringen, 1852 was closed the gap through Saarbrücken via the valley of the Sulzbach. Near of the railway new mines and glass works were created - with a direct train connection. The industry of Burbach, founded in 1856, was able to use not only the Saar river but also the train for its transports. And when ten years later the Saar river was canalised the Saar area had even a connection to the French canal net. The popultion changes - Peasant become workers With the industrialisation began a true population migration. Poor peasants and artisans moved to the industrial area, others kept their houses in the country areas of the actual north Saarland, of the Hunsrück or in the west Palatinate. They lived the week over as "sleeper" in families or in the dormitories near of the mines. Not a few went on early Monday mornings on the "miners paths" to the mine (1875 more than a third, 1910 about a fifth). They walked ten, twenty, and sometimes even thirty kilometres to their workplaces. The inhabitants of the industrial area mocked them because of their rough shoes and because of the long way as "Hardfoots". Near of the mines, developed mine colonies, for example Altenkessel, Altenwald, Bildstock, Elversberg, Göttelborn, Heiligenwald, Heinitz and Herrensohr. The mining administration constructed since the end of the 19th century some settlements of rented houses and gave rewards for the construction of "Premium houses" - until the first world war eight thousand. Many miners had also a little agricultural exploitation. They became "mining peasants" and exploited with their families fields and gardens; they also kept some useful animals - and even if it was only a goat it was the "miners' cow".

    07/21/2002 12:10:37
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Saarland - historic overview
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. Well then, since several people seem interested, here the historic overview. There are other sections going more in depth for some periods 1835 and on but I hadn't the time to translate them now. Good reading everyone Barbara Historic Overview Proof of human settlements of what is now Saarland reach back to the Old stone age about 100 000 years ago. In the last centuries before Christ, the Celtic tribes of the Mediomatriker and the Treverer lived in this area. After the conquest by the Romans several little province towns were created as well as rural cities, of which some are excavated actually. To those belongs the archaeological park of Bliesbruck-Rheinheim on both sides of the border. During the great human migration the authority of the Romans broke down. After Christianisation, the country on the Saar river belonged to the bishopric of Metz and to the archbishopric of Trier. From the late middle ages, territories formed which are remembered in the actual coat of arms of the Saarland : in the centre was the land of the count of Nassau-Saarbrücken. From various directions extended, from the exterior to the inside of the actual Saarland, the Electorate of Trier, the duchy of Pfalz-Zweibrücken and the duchy of Lorraine. Between them there still were some littler territories. In the 16th century the Reformation was introduced in Nassau-Saarbrücken and in Pfalz-Zweibrücken. From 1680 to 1697, France created, in the frame of the Reunion, a Saar province with the little territories. Following the French Revolution, the dukes were driven out in 1793 and the whole left riverbank of the Rhine was annexed to France. After the Congress of Vienna the actual Saarland went to the kingdoms of Prussia and Bavaria and to some littler States of the German Alliance. The gains of the French Revolution stayed as Rhenish right. After a beginning in the 18th century, the coal mining and steel and iron industries developed. After the French-German war of 1870/71 and the battle of Spicheren at the gates in front of Saarbrücken, the foundation of the German Empire and the annexation of Alsace-Lorraine brought the formation of a common economic area going till the French border. On the Saar river evolved the centre of the third biggest heavy industry area of the German Empire. After the German defeat in World War I the Saar area was separated from the German Empire through the peace treaty of Versailles and put under a governing commission of the Society of Nations. For the first time the Saar area formed an administrative unity of its own. France had wanted an annexation; but received only the propriety of the coal mines and thus a strong economic influence. At the popular referendum of January 13th 1935 the population voted at more than 90% for going back to the German Empire even with the nazi government there. World War II brought a new annexation of the Mosel department including also the palatinate. After the end of the war, France put up an autonomous regulation and an economic annexation for the Saarland which were fixed in the constitution of the Saarland of December 15th 1947 and accepted by the population through the elections of October 5th 1947. After many discussions between France and the newly founded German Federated Republic they both accepted an European status for the Saarland, but this was rejected by the popular referendum held on October 23rd 1955. This opened the way for the treaty of Luxembourg of October 27th 1956 in which France and Germany decided the coming back of the Saarland as a Land (State) of the German Federation from January 1st 1957 on. On July 6th 1959 followed the economic return from the French to the German economic area for which among others the money was changed from Francs to Marks.

    07/20/2002 06:14:53
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Catholic Churches in Perl, Eft, and Borg] Saarland historic overview?
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. I'm glad when I can help :-) I understand your difficulty in retyping in a language other than your's, I would have problems also with a language I don't know :-) By the way I have found a historic overview of Saarland (in German of course) and I thaught that perhaps this could interest some people here. In this case I could again translate it :-) What do you think of the idea? Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "aellis" <[email protected]> À : "barbara schnubel" <[email protected]> Envoyé : samedi 20 juillet 2002 07:12 Objet : Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Catholic Churches in Perl, Eft, and Borg] > Barbara... > ...Thank you once again for transcription. Your transcription was so > helpful. I really donot know how to thank you enough. I thought this > was quite interesting about the history of the churches. I donot know > how you do it. I find it even difficult to retype in a language other > than English without making mistakes, when I donot understand the > words. Thank once again. > Alice > > > barbara schnubel wrote: > > > > Here the extracts of the archives of the archbishopric of Trier > > > > The great parish district of Perl included the subsidiaries Oberperl, > > Sehndorf, Apach, Eft, Hellendorf, Merschweiler, Schengen, Borg, Pillingen > > and Belmacher. > > > > In the villages Apach, Borg, Eft, Merschweiler and Schengen there were - > > according to the Visitation report of 1569 - subsidiary churches. > > > > The villages Borg, Eft and Hellendorf constituted a district. The > > inhabitants of the villages had to go to mass in Perl only for the highest > > celebration days as well as for the patronage celebration of Perl and for > > the feast of Corpus Christi. On normal sundays they could go to mass in > > their village churches. > > > > In 1129 the knight Udelin donated to the abbey of Mettlach, in which he > > entered as a monk, his goods in Eft. > > > > The noble lady Frierun from Hellendorf gave to the abbey her goods in > > Hellendorf for the endowment of an annual remembrance. > > > > In Apach the Carthusian monks, which were founded in 1431, had goods and > > rights which go back to older propriety of the Bendikt abbey St. Sixtus in > > Rettel and which were testified in 1084. The inhabitants of Borg asked in > > 1718 the prior of the carthusians to let them construction wood for their > > church which has been finished in 1728. The patron name John the Baptist > > could indicate a great age of the subsidary church named in 1569. > > > > The great parish Perl is counted as one of the oldest estates of the > > archbishopric of Trier on the upper Mosel. > > > > In the new organisation of the parishes in French time (1802-1803), the > > great parish of Perl was dissolved. With Perl remained the subsidiaries and > > Sehndorf. Eft and Hellendorf went to the parish of Tünsdorf but where > > elevated to the rank of parish in 1827 with siege in Eft. Borg was also > > elevated to the rank of parish and received the subsidiaries Pillingen and > > Wochern. Wochern went in 1817 to the parish of Tettingen. > > > > Merschweiler, Belmacher and Apach went to the newly defined Metz district > > parish of Kirsch bei Sierck which belonged before to the Land chapter Perl. > > > > Remark : This division is still valid today > > > > Saint patrons : > > > > Perl Gervasius and Protasius > > > > Schengen Salvator mundi u. Luzia > > > > Apach Donatus > > > > Eft Philippus and Jakobus > > > > Borg John the Baptist > > > > Sierck 1569 - John the Bap.; 1679 - Laurentius, Johan the Bap. and > > Martinus; since 1952 Maria > > > > Orscholz 1782 Thomas 1952 Nikolaus > > > > Save a few excetions the parish villages belong to the group of pre-frankish > > settlements, that is to say to the settlements created since the 5th century > > in the course of the taking of the country by the Franks. > > > > I hope this was of some interest for you. > > > > > Here is a German e-mail I received: By-the-way, there could be a > > > possible error in > > > the copying of the text because the r with the n (rn) looks so much like > > > an m. I have > > > found one needs to be, oh, so careful, when copying from a different > > > language. I hope > > > this is useful. > > > > > > > > > Hier die Ausschnitte aus dem Bistumsarchiv von Trier: > > > > > > > > > > > > Der große Pfarrbezirk Perl umfasste die Filiaten Oberperl, Sehndorf, > > > Apach, Eft, Hellendorf, > > > Merschweiler, Schengen, Borg, Pillingen und Belmacher. > > > > > > In den Orten Apach, Borg, Eft, Merschweiler und Schengen bestanden - > > > nach dem > > > Visitationsbericht von 1569 - Filialkirchen. > > > > > > Die Orte Borg, Eft und Hellendorf bildeten einen eigenen Bezirk, Die > > > Einwohner der Dörfer > > > mussten nur an den höchsten Feiertagen sowie am Perler Patronatsfest und > > > an Fronleichnam > > > den Gottesdienst in Perl besuchen. An den einfachen Sonntagen konnten > > > sie die Messe > > > in uhren Dorkirchnen feiern. > > > > > > 1129 schenkte der Ritter Udelin von Hellendorf der Abtei Mettlach, in > > > die er als > > > Mönch eintrat, seine Güter in Eft. > > > > > > Die edie Frau Friderun von Hellendorf überließ der Abtei ihre Güter in > > > Hellendorf > > > zur Stiftung eines Jahrgedächtnisses. > > > > > > In Apach besaß die 1431 gegründete Karthause in Rettel Güter und Rechte, > > > die auf > > > ältere Besitzungen der Benediktinerabtei St. Sixtus in Rettel, die 1084 > > > bezeugt sind, > > > zurückgehen. > > > > > > Vermutlich alten Besitz in Borg hatte die Karthause in Rettel als Erbe > > > der > > > Benediktinerabtei St. Sixtus in Rettel. Die Einwohner von Borg baten > > > 1718 > > > den Prior der Karthause um die Überlassung von Bauholz für ihre Kirche, > > > die 1728 > > > vollendet war. Das Patrozinium Johannes der Täufer könnte auf ein > > > hohes Alter > > > der 1569 genannten Filialkirche hinweisen. > > > > > > Die Großpfarrei Perl wird zu den ältesten Besitzungen des Bistums Trier > > > an der > > > Obermosel gerechnet. > > > > > > Bei der neugliederung der Pfarrorganisation in französischer Zeit > > > (1802/1803) > > > wurde die Großpfarrei Perl aufgelöst. Bei Perl verblieben die Filialen > > > und > > > Sehndorf. Eft und Hellendorf kamen zur Pfarrei Tünsdorf, wurden aber > > > 1827 > > > zur Pfarrei mit dem Sitz in Eft erhoben. Borg stieg ebenfalls zur > > > Pfarrei > > > auf und erhielt die Filialen Pillingen und Wochern; Wochernkam 1817 zur > > > Pfarrei Tettingen. > > > > > > Merschweiler, Belmacher und Apach kamen zur neuumschriebenen Metzer > > > Pfarrei > > > Kirsch bei Sierck, die vorher zum Landkapitel Perl gehörte. > > > > > > Anmerkung: Diese Aufteilung gilt auch heute noch. > > > > > > > > > Die Patrozinien > > > > > > Perl Gervasius und Protasius > > > > > > Schengen Salvator mundi u. Luzia > > > > > > Apach Donatus > > > > > > Eft Philippus und Jakobus > > > > > > Borg Johannes der Täufer > > > > > > Sierck 1569 - Johannes d.T.; 1679 - Laurentius, Johannes d.T. > > > und > > > Martinus; seit 1952 Maria > > > > > > Orscholz 1782 Thomas 1952 Nikolaus > > > > > > > > > Bis auf wenige Ausnahmen gehören die Pfarrorte zur Gruppe der > > > vorfränkischen > > > bzw. der im Laufe der fränkischen Landnahme seit dem 5. Jahrhundert > > > entstandenen > > > Siedlungen. > > > > > > Hoffentlich ist das für Sie ein wenig interessant gewesen. > > > > > > Alice > > > > > > --------------2669EC7D4A164E08586CE338-- > > > > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > > to unsubscribe > > >

    07/20/2002 09:17:34
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Catholic Churches in Perl, Eft, and Borg]
    2. aellis
    3. Thank you for your reply. I can't thank Barbara enough for her transcriptions of these histories, it is has made it so much easier to understand. The person responsible for these histories is a woman who lives in Borg who is married to my new found cousin (3rd cousin once removed from the 1770's), because of the internet. She looked for the varies histories for me from different resources and had even bought a book to share the information with me. Because, the information seemed about as accurate as that available, it seemed it should be shared on this web site, which had helped me find my new German relatives as well as new relatives in Wisconsin. It was my way of saying thank you for all the help and information Treir- Roots has given to me. This was the last of the histories she had sent. I'm glad you enjoyed the histories. Alice Marvin Hoerig wrote: > > Thank you Alice > Thank you Barbara > > Yes, this was very interesting as were all of your messages about the history > of this area. > > Marvin Hoerig > > barbara schnubel wrote: > > > Here the extracts of the archives of the archbishopric of Trier > > > > The great parish district of Perl included the subsidiaries Oberperl, > > Sehndorf, Apach, Eft, Hellendorf, Merschweiler, Schengen, Borg, Pillingen > > and Belmacher. > > > > In the villages Apach, Borg, Eft, Merschweiler and Schengen there were - > > according to the Visitation report of 1569 - subsidiary churches. > > > > The villages Borg, Eft and Hellendorf constituted a district. The > > inhabitants of the villages had to go to mass in Perl only for the highest > > celebration days as well as for the patronage celebration of Perl and for > > the feast of Corpus Christi. On normal sundays they could go to mass in > > their village churches. > > > > In 1129 the knight Udelin donated to the abbey of Mettlach, in which he > > entered as a monk, his goods in Eft. > > > > The noble lady Frierun from Hellendorf gave to the abbey her goods in > > Hellendorf for the endowment of an annual remembrance. > > > > In Apach the Carthusian monks, which were founded in 1431, had goods and > > rights which go back to older propriety of the Bendikt abbey St. Sixtus in > > Rettel and which were testified in 1084. The inhabitants of Borg asked in > > 1718 the prior of the carthusians to let them construction wood for their > > church which has been finished in 1728. The patron name John the Baptist > > could indicate a great age of the subsidary church named in 1569. > > > > The great parish Perl is counted as one of the oldest estates of the > > archbishopric of Trier on the upper Mosel. > > > > In the new organisation of the parishes in French time (1802-1803), the > > great parish of Perl was dissolved. With Perl remained the subsidiaries and > > Sehndorf. Eft and Hellendorf went to the parish of Tünsdorf but where > > elevated to the rank of parish in 1827 with siege in Eft. Borg was also > > elevated to the rank of parish and received the subsidiaries Pillingen and > > Wochern. Wochern went in 1817 to the parish of Tettingen. > > > > Merschweiler, Belmacher and Apach went to the newly defined Metz district > > parish of Kirsch bei Sierck which belonged before to the Land chapter Perl. > > > > Remark : This division is still valid today > > > > Saint patrons : > > > > Perl Gervasius and Protasius > > > > Schengen Salvator mundi u. Luzia > > > > Apach Donatus > > > > Eft Philippus and Jakobus > > > > Borg John the Baptist > > > > Sierck 1569 - John the Bap.; 1679 - Laurentius, Johan the Bap. and > > Martinus; since 1952 Maria > > > > Orscholz 1782 Thomas 1952 Nikolaus > > > > Save a few excetions the parish villages belong to the group of pre-frankish > > settlements, that is to say to the settlements created since the 5th century > > in the course of the taking of the country by the Franks. > > > > I hope this was of some interest for you. > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe

    07/19/2002 06:32:31
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Catholic Churches in Perl, Eft, and Borg]
    2. barbara schnubel
    3. Here the extracts of the archives of the archbishopric of Trier The great parish district of Perl included the subsidiaries Oberperl, Sehndorf, Apach, Eft, Hellendorf, Merschweiler, Schengen, Borg, Pillingen and Belmacher. In the villages Apach, Borg, Eft, Merschweiler and Schengen there were - according to the Visitation report of 1569 - subsidiary churches. The villages Borg, Eft and Hellendorf constituted a district. The inhabitants of the villages had to go to mass in Perl only for the highest celebration days as well as for the patronage celebration of Perl and for the feast of Corpus Christi. On normal sundays they could go to mass in their village churches. In 1129 the knight Udelin donated to the abbey of Mettlach, in which he entered as a monk, his goods in Eft. The noble lady Frierun from Hellendorf gave to the abbey her goods in Hellendorf for the endowment of an annual remembrance. In Apach the Carthusian monks, which were founded in 1431, had goods and rights which go back to older propriety of the Bendikt abbey St. Sixtus in Rettel and which were testified in 1084. The inhabitants of Borg asked in 1718 the prior of the carthusians to let them construction wood for their church which has been finished in 1728. The patron name John the Baptist could indicate a great age of the subsidary church named in 1569. The great parish Perl is counted as one of the oldest estates of the archbishopric of Trier on the upper Mosel. In the new organisation of the parishes in French time (1802-1803), the great parish of Perl was dissolved. With Perl remained the subsidiaries and Sehndorf. Eft and Hellendorf went to the parish of Tünsdorf but where elevated to the rank of parish in 1827 with siege in Eft. Borg was also elevated to the rank of parish and received the subsidiaries Pillingen and Wochern. Wochern went in 1817 to the parish of Tettingen. Merschweiler, Belmacher and Apach went to the newly defined Metz district parish of Kirsch bei Sierck which belonged before to the Land chapter Perl. Remark : This division is still valid today Saint patrons : Perl Gervasius and Protasius Schengen Salvator mundi u. Luzia Apach Donatus Eft Philippus and Jakobus Borg John the Baptist Sierck 1569 - John the Bap.; 1679 - Laurentius, Johan the Bap. and Martinus; since 1952 Maria Orscholz 1782 Thomas 1952 Nikolaus Save a few excetions the parish villages belong to the group of pre-frankish settlements, that is to say to the settlements created since the 5th century in the course of the taking of the country by the Franks. I hope this was of some interest for you. > Here is a German e-mail I received: By-the-way, there could be a > possible error in > the copying of the text because the r with the n (rn) looks so much like > an m. I have > found one needs to be, oh, so careful, when copying from a different > language. I hope > this is useful. > > > Hier die Ausschnitte aus dem Bistumsarchiv von Trier: > > > > Der große Pfarrbezirk Perl umfasste die Filiaten Oberperl, Sehndorf, > Apach, Eft, Hellendorf, > Merschweiler, Schengen, Borg, Pillingen und Belmacher. > > In den Orten Apach, Borg, Eft, Merschweiler und Schengen bestanden - > nach dem > Visitationsbericht von 1569 - Filialkirchen. > > Die Orte Borg, Eft und Hellendorf bildeten einen eigenen Bezirk, Die > Einwohner der Dörfer > mussten nur an den höchsten Feiertagen sowie am Perler Patronatsfest und > an Fronleichnam > den Gottesdienst in Perl besuchen. An den einfachen Sonntagen konnten > sie die Messe > in uhren Dorkirchnen feiern. > > 1129 schenkte der Ritter Udelin von Hellendorf der Abtei Mettlach, in > die er als > Mönch eintrat, seine Güter in Eft. > > Die edie Frau Friderun von Hellendorf überließ der Abtei ihre Güter in > Hellendorf > zur Stiftung eines Jahrgedächtnisses. > > In Apach besaß die 1431 gegründete Karthause in Rettel Güter und Rechte, > die auf > ältere Besitzungen der Benediktinerabtei St. Sixtus in Rettel, die 1084 > bezeugt sind, > zurückgehen. > > Vermutlich alten Besitz in Borg hatte die Karthause in Rettel als Erbe > der > Benediktinerabtei St. Sixtus in Rettel. Die Einwohner von Borg baten > 1718 > den Prior der Karthause um die Überlassung von Bauholz für ihre Kirche, > die 1728 > vollendet war. Das Patrozinium Johannes der Täufer könnte auf ein > hohes Alter > der 1569 genannten Filialkirche hinweisen. > > Die Großpfarrei Perl wird zu den ältesten Besitzungen des Bistums Trier > an der > Obermosel gerechnet. > > Bei der neugliederung der Pfarrorganisation in französischer Zeit > (1802/1803) > wurde die Großpfarrei Perl aufgelöst. Bei Perl verblieben die Filialen > und > Sehndorf. Eft und Hellendorf kamen zur Pfarrei Tünsdorf, wurden aber > 1827 > zur Pfarrei mit dem Sitz in Eft erhoben. Borg stieg ebenfalls zur > Pfarrei > auf und erhielt die Filialen Pillingen und Wochern; Wochernkam 1817 zur > Pfarrei Tettingen. > > Merschweiler, Belmacher und Apach kamen zur neuumschriebenen Metzer > Pfarrei > Kirsch bei Sierck, die vorher zum Landkapitel Perl gehörte. > > Anmerkung: Diese Aufteilung gilt auch heute noch. > > > Die Patrozinien > > Perl Gervasius und Protasius > > Schengen Salvator mundi u. Luzia > > Apach Donatus > > Eft Philippus und Jakobus > > Borg Johannes der Täufer > > Sierck 1569 - Johannes d.T.; 1679 - Laurentius, Johannes d.T. > und > Martinus; seit 1952 Maria > > Orscholz 1782 Thomas 1952 Nikolaus > > > Bis auf wenige Ausnahmen gehören die Pfarrorte zur Gruppe der > vorfränkischen > bzw. der im Laufe der fränkischen Landnahme seit dem 5. Jahrhundert > entstandenen > Siedlungen. > > Hoffentlich ist das für Sie ein wenig interessant gewesen. > > Alice > > --------------2669EC7D4A164E08586CE338-- > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

    07/19/2002 04:53:40
  1. 07/19/2002 12:23:35
    1. Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] [Fwd: Catholic Churches in Perl, Eft, and Borg]
    2. Marvin Hoerig
    3. Thank you Alice Thank you Barbara Yes, this was very interesting as were all of your messages about the history of this area. Marvin Hoerig barbara schnubel wrote: > Here the extracts of the archives of the archbishopric of Trier > > The great parish district of Perl included the subsidiaries Oberperl, > Sehndorf, Apach, Eft, Hellendorf, Merschweiler, Schengen, Borg, Pillingen > and Belmacher. > > In the villages Apach, Borg, Eft, Merschweiler and Schengen there were - > according to the Visitation report of 1569 - subsidiary churches. > > The villages Borg, Eft and Hellendorf constituted a district. The > inhabitants of the villages had to go to mass in Perl only for the highest > celebration days as well as for the patronage celebration of Perl and for > the feast of Corpus Christi. On normal sundays they could go to mass in > their village churches. > > In 1129 the knight Udelin donated to the abbey of Mettlach, in which he > entered as a monk, his goods in Eft. > > The noble lady Frierun from Hellendorf gave to the abbey her goods in > Hellendorf for the endowment of an annual remembrance. > > In Apach the Carthusian monks, which were founded in 1431, had goods and > rights which go back to older propriety of the Bendikt abbey St. Sixtus in > Rettel and which were testified in 1084. The inhabitants of Borg asked in > 1718 the prior of the carthusians to let them construction wood for their > church which has been finished in 1728. The patron name John the Baptist > could indicate a great age of the subsidary church named in 1569. > > The great parish Perl is counted as one of the oldest estates of the > archbishopric of Trier on the upper Mosel. > > In the new organisation of the parishes in French time (1802-1803), the > great parish of Perl was dissolved. With Perl remained the subsidiaries and > Sehndorf. Eft and Hellendorf went to the parish of Tünsdorf but where > elevated to the rank of parish in 1827 with siege in Eft. Borg was also > elevated to the rank of parish and received the subsidiaries Pillingen and > Wochern. Wochern went in 1817 to the parish of Tettingen. > > Merschweiler, Belmacher and Apach went to the newly defined Metz district > parish of Kirsch bei Sierck which belonged before to the Land chapter Perl. > > Remark : This division is still valid today > > Saint patrons : > > Perl Gervasius and Protasius > > Schengen Salvator mundi u. Luzia > > Apach Donatus > > Eft Philippus and Jakobus > > Borg John the Baptist > > Sierck 1569 - John the Bap.; 1679 - Laurentius, Johan the Bap. and > Martinus; since 1952 Maria > > Orscholz 1782 Thomas 1952 Nikolaus > > Save a few excetions the parish villages belong to the group of pre-frankish > settlements, that is to say to the settlements created since the 5th century > in the course of the taking of the country by the Franks. > > I hope this was of some interest for you.

    07/19/2002 11:09:37
    1. [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Recherches
    2. kathpfeil
    3. Bonjour a tous je recherche les patronymes suivants PFEIL;KOBY;BECKER;DORSCHNER,ULM;WEIDMANN;JOA;JUSTHEIM;HELFRICH;WINTERSTEIN la moindre indications peut m'etre utile ils peuvent etre ecrit de differente orthographe Je vous remercie kath ********************************************************** [email protected] rech:09/12/54/57/67/68/70/88/Italie/Allemagne Ma généalogie personnelle http://katherine.pfeil.free.fr/ http://www.ma-généalogie.org/pfeil / ********************************************

    07/19/2002 09:11:52