Hi, You didn't say in which language is your document... If it's in German or in French I can do it, if it's in Latin you'll have to find someone other. Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : <[email protected]> À : <[email protected]> Envoyé : mercredi 28 août 2002 13:35 Objet : [TRIER-ROOTS-L] translation > Hello > I have a document which appears might be something about emmigration of a > supposed relative and I wondered if anyone would be able to at least look at > it and give me an idea of what it might say. I could send it as an > attachment privately if there is anyone that could do it. Thanks much > > Lenora from WIS > researching: Burg, Kelley, Weber, Hengel, Rosar, Duppre/Dippre, Wick, > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

>Hi, > >You didn't say in which language is your document... If it's in German or >in French I can do it, if it's in Latin you'll have to find someone other. Doesn't sound like it's a church document, but if it's in Latin, I can do practical (but not professional) translations. Joseph B. Miller Troy, Michigan -------------------

Hello I have a document which appears might be something about emmigration of a supposed relative and I wondered if anyone would be able to at least look at it and give me an idea of what it might say. I could send it as an attachment privately if there is anyone that could do it. Thanks much Lenora from WIS researching: Burg, Kelley, Weber, Hengel, Rosar, Duppre/Dippre, Wick,

Thank you, Ursula, for the information on Joes/Jois. It makes a good deal of sense as I read the records again. Jane

Hello, the book is written in German the title is: "Die Einwohner von Wadrill und Sitzerath vor 1850 Gehweiler und Reidelbach 1800-1850" Translatet it will be "The Inhabitants of Wadrill and Sitzerath before 1850 and [the Inhabitants of] Gehweiler and Reidelbach from 1800 to 1850" But this book was not published by the genealogical association of Saarlouis, but by the local history association Nonnweiler (1993). Hope it is the right translation for "Verein für Heimatkunde Nonnweiler" Beste Grüße Rolf (Freytag) Link Datenbank: http://www.rolf.sytes.net:8011/links/index.php Ortsdatenbank: http://www.rolf.sytes.net:8011/myphp/index.php mailto:[email protected] http://www.rolf-freytag.de

I am seeking information on a distant relative from Trier who left Trier for Johannesburg, South Africa rather suddenly after shooting his commanding officer to death. He was born in 1854 so time frame is most likely 1874+. I would think that this event would have been reported in the local papers. I also had heard that most of of the Prussian Army records had been destroyed in the wars. If someone has any ideas on how I may research this tragic event I would appreciate suggestions. Dave Spang --

Hallo List - hello Jane, the difference between Jois and Joes is given with the gender: Joes is nominative Jois is genitive Say: Joes son of Jois was born on May 27th 1755 Ursula Buchholz mailto: [email protected] www.ursula-buchholz.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:20 AM Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Abbreviation > Thanks so much to all of you who helped with the abbreviation for Johannes. > I could find no pattern as to when Jois versus Joes was used. I found both > in birth and marriage records. > Jane > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe > >

Hi, I don't know the editor of the book you cite, however I know how to contact the author. Hans Peter Klauck has published several genealogical books (I have some but not the one you told about) and he is easy to join via the website of the genealogical association of Saarlouis : http://www.vfh-saarlouis.de/ Of course the website itself is in German only, but since "E-mail" stays e-mail it's easy to find :-) and I suppose somebody of the association knows enough English to understand what you ask and to give you the answer about that particular book (you're sure the title is in English???). If not, tell me and I help you out (I'm also member of this association). Barbara ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "matt halton" <[email protected]> À : <[email protected]> Envoyé : dimanche 25 août 2002 02:22 Objet : Re: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Backes Fam > Jan, > I too have Backes in my line and yes they are from Germany as well. My > family names are Schmitt and Seberger. Several of the Seberger's (also > spelled Sehberger and Seeberger married Backes) there are also Backes that > married into the Muller family name. I have not done alot of research on > the Backes but do know that some settled in Lake County, Indiana. In > particular, Catharina Seberger married a Mathias Backes(his dates I do not > have at this time). They were married in Germany and had four children, > Anna Maria, Peter, Margaret, and Helen, all of them emigrated to the US at > an unknown date. > > Anna Maria Backes married Nicholas Neudorf and they had 12 > children:Nicholas, Katherine, Mathias, Peter, Joseph, William, Marie, > Susanna, Andrew, Ann Odilla, Clara and John Anthony. Unfortunatly I have > not touched these folks yet so I can not give you dates. > > I did have contact with a woman from Germany who gave me the following web > site for German families. > http://db.genealogy.net/ofb/hochwald/hochwaldlist.htm? > > There are several Backes in this. I have noted that the dates and names may > not always be given, don't let this deter you as I have found many ancestors > in this list, it just seems that it is incomplete. > > Also she gave me a name of a book that has thousands of records, but I do > not know how to get copies of it or if I would have to ask for specific > records. > The name of the books is" The Inhabitants of Wadrill and Sitzerath Before > 1850" by Hans Peter Klauk, Saarlouis. Published by Gehweiler and Reidelbach > (1800-1850). The book only goes up to 1850. This is an old church book. > The old church book of Wadrill and Wadern is in the archives of the diocese > Trier. > In the family album Südlicher Hochwald (Southern Timber Forest) online > you can find all further information about the families. Source listing on > the German side. Here is the homepage for Wadern. > http://www.wadern.de/geschablauf.htm > Perhaps the local administration can help you if you need, yet the site is > in german, maybe you speak it better than I. If you have questions let me > know, I will try to answer them but my information is limited. > Best Regards, > Matt Halton > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > to unsubscribe >

To All Trier-Roots List Members, I am totally overwhelmed, by all of the very, kind responses that you have sent my way, on my query on my Backes family. I belong to several mailing lists, and by far, you guys surpass all of them. Your not only kind, but you have offered so many links for me to follow up on. If I find my Backes family now, (I know they can't hide, with all of the help you've given me), I will definetly owe it all to you guys. You have really touched my heart! Please read the sayings that I attach to my e-mails, below. And know that they are personally meant for each and everyone of you! With all my love and appreciation, Jan Kelley [email protected] May God Bless you, Direct you and Protect you, in everything you say and do! Communicate, with those you love. Appreciate them while you have them. Validate your love, before they are gone. Too Late, Happens Too Soon _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Jan, I forgot to tell you about another great site for Germany, it's Don Watson's Hessen website, tons of information, you can spend days going through his site. The site is not just for the Hessen area. http://members.cox.net/hessen/index2.htm scroll down to the bottom and click on Go To Table of Links http://members.cox.net/hessen/telephones.htm German Telephone Directory, available in English (for Stella, type in Oberleuken in the place, and Peter in the surname field, there are quite a few people listed) Also for Stella, http://www.familysearch.org you can order microfilm from your local family history center library. Go to this page on their website http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp click on PLACE and type in Oberlueken, you'll find parrish and civil records which you can order to view. Good luck! Karen

Jan, I too have Backes in my line and yes they are from Germany as well. My family names are Schmitt and Seberger. Several of the Seberger's (also spelled Sehberger and Seeberger married Backes) there are also Backes that married into the Muller family name. I have not done alot of research on the Backes but do know that some settled in Lake County, Indiana. In particular, Catharina Seberger married a Mathias Backes(his dates I do not have at this time). They were married in Germany and had four children, Anna Maria, Peter, Margaret, and Helen, all of them emigrated to the US at an unknown date. Anna Maria Backes married Nicholas Neudorf and they had 12 children:Nicholas, Katherine, Mathias, Peter, Joseph, William, Marie, Susanna, Andrew, Ann Odilla, Clara and John Anthony. Unfortunatly I have not touched these folks yet so I can not give you dates. I did have contact with a woman from Germany who gave me the following web site for German families. http://db.genealogy.net/ofb/hochwald/hochwaldlist.htm? There are several Backes in this. I have noted that the dates and names may not always be given, don't let this deter you as I have found many ancestors in this list, it just seems that it is incomplete. Also she gave me a name of a book that has thousands of records, but I do not know how to get copies of it or if I would have to ask for specific records. The name of the books is" The Inhabitants of Wadrill and Sitzerath Before 1850" by Hans Peter Klauk, Saarlouis. Published by Gehweiler and Reidelbach (1800-1850). The book only goes up to 1850. This is an old church book. The old church book of Wadrill and Wadern is in the archives of the diocese Trier. In the family album Südlicher Hochwald (Southern Timber Forest) online you can find all further information about the families. Source listing on the German side. Here is the homepage for Wadern. http://www.wadern.de/geschablauf.htm Perhaps the local administration can help you if you need, yet the site is in german, maybe you speak it better than I. If you have questions let me know, I will try to answer them but my information is limited. Best Regards, Matt Halton

Just out of curiosity. How do you pronounce the name; Bachus (emphases on the us), Bakes(as in Baker), Baches, Bak S (Baa, Baa, as in black sheep and emphases on the S). Our family always said Bak S. Frank - Detroit -----Original Message----- From: Johnna & Gregory St Clair <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Fw: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Backes Fam Hi Jan and List: I have been researching the Backes family from Bliesen and Güdesweiler in Saarland. I have found many Backes family members back to about 1690. They first came to Buffalo, NY first. The reason your message caught my interest is that you mention PEORIA, ILL. A Great Aunt of mine claims to have been to a Backes family wedding around 1930 in the Peoria area. I have a Joseph BACKES but he died in the 1920's in West Seneca, NY. I would love to exchange information with you if this rings a bell. My email is [email protected] Johnna St Clair ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Kelley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:51 PM > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Backes Fam > > > > Hello List, > > > > My name is Jan Kelley and the family line that I am researching is > "BACKES", > > * Fredrick Wilhelm Backes, his parents and brothers Joseph, Matthew, John > > and Nicholas came to America when Fredrick was 5 (about 1846) > > * Fredrick and family came from Hasborn, Germany. ( I have found two > > Hasborn, Germany. One in Rineland and one in Saarland. A daughter of > > Fredrick stated on a tape recording that father came from Saarland. > > Therefore, I believe this is Hasborn-Dautweiler, Saarland, Germany north > of > > Saarbrucken, Germany) > > > > I believe my relative to be the Joseph Backes mention in this short > > paragraph on my family history. I know nothing about them prior to living > in > > Peoria, Illinois after coming to the U.S.. I am looking for any possible > > connections to this Joseph Backes and his family that is mentioned in the > > paragraph above. > > > > If anyone can help me make a connection in anyway, to my family in > Germany, > > I would greatly appreciate the help. > > > > Thank you from the very bottom of my heart for any time and trouble you > may > > go through on my behalf. > > > > Your friend in genealogy, > > > > Jan Kelley [email protected] > > > > > > > > May God Bless you, Direct you and Protect you, in everything you say and > do! > > > > Communicate, with those you love. > > Appreciate them while you have them. > > Validate your love, before they are gone. > > Too Late, Happens Too Soon > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html to unsubscribe ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com

In the 1910 census in Aurora, Kane Co., Illinois there is a census page for Jacob Backes and his family. It list Jacob as 55 and Mary his wife as 51. I can share what I have if anyone is interested. Contact me off list [email protected] Laura

For anyone looking for information about the BACKES surname go to roots web surname board and there are people who are also looking for BACKES. You might find you answers. Laura

Dear Trier Web Page; My husband and I would like to express our thanks to the many subscribers that helped us stumble through the sometimes challenging pursuit of genealogy. A special thanks to Herr Scholer, without his information on our Thommes family history we would not have been able to continue our search for living relatives still in Germany. Last week my husband and I met his third cousin in Grimburg. This would be the first contact the family has had since losing contact after the war. It was amazing. We are now in the process of passing information and pictures between the remaining family members. We speak little German which made it hard to communicate but we were very lucky to find a few very kind german people who wanted to help us. We do have another favor to ask our German web users. That question is! Is there anyone out there that knows the origins of town shields/coat of arms? Specifically we are interested in the meaning of the town shield for Grimburg, the old castle. Thank you again for everyones help. Alice Radcliff _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

My gg grandparents, Margaretha BACKES b. 1793 Heddert Germany, d. August 05, 1865 also in Heddert, m. Joseph WURTZ (WERTZ) b. 1788 in Heddert d. July 03, 1841 in Heddert. They married about 1814 and had 8 children. The next to youngest child, my gr grandfather, Adam WURTZ b. February 17, 1833 is the only one, as far as I know, of this family that came to America. He and his family came to America in 1881 and settled in Randolph Co. AR. This probably won't be of much help to anyone researching BACKES but I thought since I know nothing about the parents and siblings of Margaretha BACKES perhaps someone does. Happy researching to all my German people. Peggy Wurtz Atteberry Native of California, now living in Utah Researching: ANDERSON, ATTEBERRY, CAMPBELL, CLEMONS, HUMPHREY, JAMISON, JUNKERSFELD, KEELING, KELLISON, LYNCH, MITCHELL, MURRAY, OWENS, STEVENS, WURTZ Go to my Gedcom: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=attebaby

Hi Jan, Saw your post on Backs in Saarland. Have you tried the USGenWeb site for Illinois? http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilgenweb/ Peoria Co. has posted quite a bit of information. Also, use IRAD, the Illinois Archives. I found these marriages listed in the marriage index: BACKES, FREDERICK & BIETEL, SUSANNAH PEORIA 02/18/1875 Vol.4 P./164 Lic #67 BACKES, NICHOLAS COON, ELIZA PEORIA 05/31/1871 4 /83 171 BACKES, PETER KRAUS, ANNA MARIE PEORIA 07/03/1867 3 /209 225 I've used the Illinois Newspaper Project, ordering microfilms of the newspapers and looked for the dates of marriages, deaths, births etc...often there were lenghty obits etc...giving family information, immigration dates etc...in the articles. Peoria has old newspapers microfilmed back into 1840's and forward. http://www.library.uiuc.edu/techserv/inp/webpages/main.htm You can write the archives for Peoria area (Western Illinois Univeristy) the address is listed on the IRAD website. They will search for free, possibly having naturalization papers etc...it's worth a try, I've found papers on several family members, however back in the 1800's there isn't much listed at times. Another option is ordering the microfilm from the FHC library for your surname of Backes. B-220 to B-241 FHL US/CAN Film 1432010 Soundex index to naturalization petitions for U.S. District & Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois and Immigration and Naturalization Service District 9, 1840-1950 "The Soundex Index to naturalization petitions reproduced here indexes records generated by several courts. These include both civil and military petitions from the United States District and Circuit Courts, Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division; the Circuit, County, Criminal, and Superior Courts of Cook County, Illinois; and county and municipal courts in the old Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) District #9 (at one time called District 14), which comprised the northern third of Illinois, northwestern Indiana, southern and eastern Wisconsin, and eastern Iowa. The following counties are indexed: ILLINOIS: Boon, Bureau, Carroll, Champaign, Cook, De Kalb, Ford, Fulton, Grundy, Henderson, Henry, Iroquois, Jo Daviess, Kane, Kankakee, Kendall, Knox, Lake, La Salle, Lee, Livingston, Marshall, McHenry, McLean, Mercer, Ogle, Peoria, Putnam, Rock Island, Stark, Stephenson, Tazewell, Vermilion, Warren, Whiteside, Will, Winnebago and Woodford. INDIANA: Benton, Fulton, Jasper, Lake, La Porte, Marshall, Newton, Porter, Pulaski, St. Joseph and Starke. At the Family History Library site: http://www.familysearch.org Hasborn has Katholich Kirche Hasborn (Hasborn-Dautweiler) on two microfilm: Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations, family books, etc. Taufe 1779-1872 Kommunion 1835-1856 Konfirmation 1803-1868 Heiraten 1799-1873 Tote 1802-1873 Kommunion, Konfirmation 1865-1915 Taufen 1873-1902 Heiraten 1873-1922 FHL INTL Film 591215 Tote 1873-1907 Familienbücher FHL INTL Film 591216 My guess is they are written in Latin and your local FHC library has a great hand-out to help you with Latin etc...Germany etc...you will find so much information in those two microfilms. Werner Hacker has a book, through the FHC on immigration from Saarland to U.S. You can write Salt Lake and ask for a search. Auswanderungen aus Rheinpfalz und Saarland im 18. Jahrhundert (with index) Emigration from the Rhineland-Palatinate and Saarland regions of Germany. Names of emigrants are transcribed and listed alphabetically, along with their documentary sources. Information includes name, destination, place of origin, occupation, and those accompanying. Emigration is traced primarily to North America, the former Kingdom of Prussia, the Austro-Hungarian empire (especially Galicia), and Russia. There is a wealth of information on the German Genealogy website: http://www.genealogienetz.de/genealogy.html Check out the address's for archives in Saarland, Koblenz etcc..where you can write for information. Also, I have a 1948 Peoria phone book listing quite a few Backes, sometimes listing their occupations etc..if you have a certain name, I'd be happy to look.. Hope this helps! Karen Adams, Seattle

Hi Jan and List: I have been researching the Backes family from Bliesen and Güdesweiler in Saarland. I have found many Backes family members back to about 1690. They first came to Buffalo, NY first. The reason your message caught my interest is that you mention PEORIA, ILL. A Great Aunt of mine claims to have been to a Backes family wedding around 1930 in the Peoria area. I have a Joseph BACKES but he died in the 1920's in West Seneca, NY. I would love to exchange information with you if this rings a bell. My email is [email protected] Johnna St Clair ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jan Kelley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:51 PM > Subject: [TRIER-ROOTS-L] Backes Fam > > > > Hello List, > > > > My name is Jan Kelley and the family line that I am researching is > "BACKES", > > * Fredrick Wilhelm Backes, his parents and brothers Joseph, Matthew, John > > and Nicholas came to America when Fredrick was 5 (about 1846) > > * Fredrick and family came from Hasborn, Germany. ( I have found two > > Hasborn, Germany. One in Rineland and one in Saarland. A daughter of > > Fredrick stated on a tape recording that father came from Saarland. > > Therefore, I believe this is Hasborn-Dautweiler, Saarland, Germany north > of > > Saarbrucken, Germany) > > > > I believe my relative to be the Joseph Backes mention in this short > > paragraph on my family history. I know nothing about them prior to living > in > > Peoria, Illinois after coming to the U.S.. I am looking for any possible > > connections to this Joseph Backes and his family that is mentioned in the > > paragraph above. > > > > If anyone can help me make a connection in anyway, to my family in > Germany, > > I would greatly appreciate the help. > > > > Thank you from the very bottom of my heart for any time and trouble you > may > > go through on my behalf. > > > > Your friend in genealogy, > > > > Jan Kelley [email protected] > > > > > > > > May God Bless you, Direct you and Protect you, in everything you say and > do! > > > > Communicate, with those you love. > > Appreciate them while you have them. > > Validate your love, before they are gone. > > Too Late, Happens Too Soon > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > ==== TRIER-ROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/TRIER-ROOTS.html > > to unsubscribe > > > > >

Dear Trier Lister, I am looking for information on the ancestors of my grandmother, Mary Christine Klein who came to the U.S.in 1881 at the age of 8 with her family - father, Johann Klein; mother, Mary Anne Gitzinger; brothers, Fr. Nicholas Klein (a redemptorist priest), Peter, and Johann; and her sister Adelaide. They came from Ninech aum Moselle/Weis. They settled in St. Michael's parish in Chicago, Illinois, U.S. A. She married my grandfather, John Baptiste Toussaint in Chicago, Illinois. Any information you can supply will be greatly appreciated. Margaret Toussaint Wussow. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Looking for Sipchen in Germany. Also looking for research places in Germany, and places on the internet. Any help appreciated. [email protected]