If, Bonnie, and WHEN we discover CHRISTIAN, let's have a TREON party !! As a matter of fact, Brenda Treon Stine and I are discussing the possibility of a latter October get-together of Treon cuzzies in the Dayton, Ohio, area. They're willing to com up from Kentucky, since most of the cuzzies are in the West Carrollton, Ohio, area. Carol and I will be down in Warren County (mostly) in October, doing research there, as well as in Clermont and Pickaway Counties. I'm singing a wedding in Chicago on 9 November, so we're spending several days en route from southern Ohio in Ft. Wayne, IN, to research at that magnificent gen. library there. Meeting these Treon cousins will be a real treat, and it's all because of your mailing list !! :-))) Dave Ross Denver, CO

Thanks Dave. I am "hopeful" that we will figure this puzzle out sometime in our own lifetimes! Wouldn't that be a great legacy for us to leave our decendents-- the proven family heritage! Wow! awesome! Have a safe and fun trip! Happy Easter to all! Bonnie >From: Newtross@aol.com >Reply-To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TREON] TREON'S PA>OH /Bonnie's 2 cents of thoughts for the >day! >Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:28:06 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC98A75000C04004314B3F5C507B11390; Sat Apr 07 11:28:33 2001 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f37ISDi22209;Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:28:13 -0700 >From TREON-L-request@rootsweb.com Sat Apr 07 11:30:20 2001 >Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:28:13 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: Newtross@aol.com Sat Apr 7 11:28:12 2001 >Message-ID: <61.cf6e73f.2800b636@aol.com> >Old-To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 108 >Resent-Message-ID: <oUCQZB.A.1aF.9w1z6@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <TREON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/100 >X-Loop: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: TREON-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Hi John & list. Great to hear from you. > > RE: DRION IN OHIO FROM HATTEN AS DEFINITE KIN TO TREON/DRION from > ship JANET??? > > Sadly, "no" proof yet! --but it is still a possibility. I'm not entirely > jumping ship on that possibility at this point. I'm just super confused! > Several issues puzzle us including the discrepancy on the gravestone > dates vs. birht info/ and who was CHRISTIAN??>> >1)Christian came on a ship, and he was a Drion or otherwise, depending on >whose translation of the ship's list you read. >2) Christian was mentioned in the lore of the Montgomery County, Ohio, >Treons >as being in their ancestry; mentioned by SEVERAL of them, not just one. >His >exact relationship varies, depending on who was doing the mentioning. We >must believe he existed, either as Johann Michael's father, or perhaps >further back. >3) Merritt Wolfe chose to call him Johann Michael's father, but found no >further trace of him. > > Here is the big dilemma: > We just are trying to figure WHO this man of family lore passed down >named > CHRISTIAN TREON/TRION/DRION really was and why isn't he listed with your > Hatten family who we thought was ours??>> He isn't listed in that Hatten >family because that Hatten family probably isn't ours. The birth date of >that Johann Michael DRION (11 Nov 1725) is at GREAT disparity with the >accepted birthdate of "our" Johann Michael (17 July 1731: calculated from >the >VERY legible age at death on his gravestone). That's a disparity of over >5-1/2 years !! That Johann Michael's father was, yes, a barber/surgeon in >Hatten. There was NO connection to the French Army. He was the village >barber/surgeon. His name was Johann Georg Drion, and his father was >Balthasar Drion, a court painter. The only other DRION of interest in this >family is Johann Georg's brother, also living in Hatten, Johann Heinrich, >artist and church elder. In NEITHER of those families is there a Christian >Drion. Actually, in the entire time span of the Hatten records, there are >precious few baptised with the name Christian at all !! It was not a >popular >name in that area. > > So much confusion with the spelling variations,etc. Was there really a >CHRISTIAN? Were there more children not accounted for?? etc... Are there >REAL researchable > FRENCH army rosters which would list a surgeon? DAVE, do you know where > we can check this out?>> These are cogent, legitimate questions. >Bonnie, >my best suggestion on the FRENCH Army Rosters would be to go to >Rootsweb.com, >find a mailing list there in France and ask the question there. I don't >know, simply because I've never taken the time to look (I'm ashamed to >admit >that, but it's true !!) It may well be that some experienced researcher on >one of those services might be of GREAT help. > > RE: "Christian" as a title or description/nickname based upon religion >and >not necessarily the man's given baptismal name???>> I doubt that. Ship >manifests used given names. > > **Just a thought: > (NOTE: OFTEN in the 1700's/1800's some folks were classified by their > religion! )One of my ancestors was Catholic and he is not listed > on the VA census by his given Christian name, but as > "PAPIST MCVOY" - ** I know for a fact that "PAPIST" was NOT this man's >name > but a reference that he was a member of the ROMAN CATHOLIC > Church!!!("Papist" referring to the Pope who is the head of the Roman > Catholic religion on earth. Papal is an adjective which > refers to the Pope and a "papist" is a follower of this religious > doctrine.)Wonder if our "Christian" was referred to in the same manner? > Perhaps our ancestor was nick-named for his pursuit of his Christian > religious freedom!!! (Just a thought.) The "Papist" thing in a Virginia > census about my own ancestor is hanging in the back of my mind. Perhaps >the > Christian part of his name was but a religious title?? > > Now, Dave said that TRYON are separate, but one of the DR.FREDERICK'S > graves in PA is spelled as TRYON and there are TRION and TRINE that > I personally believe "may" connect to TREON in PA. One of the kind > folks from the TRYON list sent me info from the book about TRYON > and SOME OF the TRYON appears to be derived somehow from a PETER TREION, > and I think it may have said he was French. I read this over a > year ago,so it is not real fresh in my memory, but our families > could really connect at some early pre-America point in time. > (Worth investigating.) ANYWAY, TREION is definitely interesting!>> Yes, >Bill Treon and I visited that very TRYON grave, and I photoed him sitting >on >the good-sized grave marker !! Don't get me wrong about variant spellings: >I'm not saying that a Tryon is not a Treon. I'm saying we must look at >each >variant as a separate family (which that TRYON of ours was), and that they >probably derived from the Drion (as ours did: Drion>Trion.Treon>Tryon). > > Also TRAHAN and DRUION are families found in early Louisiana as well > as HACHE' which apparently some decendents spell as ACHE which is > remarkably similar to ACHEY and Hermanus Achey was spelled as ACHE. > These folks were also French. There is so much wonderful history > here-- whether or not they are kin to us remains to be proven or >disproven. > **But another bit of food for thought!>> And perhaps ALL related >somewhere >back along the line. I've just been doing an amazing amount of work on my >HOLZHAUSEN line. It's eventually tied into TREON, but I won't confuse the >issue here !! :-)) My point is that my GGgrandmother Louisa Holzhausen >spelled her name that way. Her father, Rev. Philippe Friedrich HOLZHAUSEN >spelled his name that way when he wrote it into the Koerdorf, Germany, >church >records. HIS father, the Rev. Engelhard Holzhausen, always spelled it >HOLTZHAUSEN (with the "t"). They're all the same family, the same line, >and >we can't let the variant spellings throw us for a loop. > >I'm confident that someone of us will find the proper DRION family one of >these days. They just aren't from Hatten !! > > Another good book is FLOYD'S NORTHUMBERLAND GENEALOGY about >Northumberland >Co PA and was on-line. (Is it still?) TREON line > of Dr.Frederick is mentioned. My husband's line is direct from him > and several are STILL living in Sunbury and surrounding areas of > Northumberland Co. Most interesting! (Was on USGENWEB'S Northumb.Co > site a while ago.)>> Yes there are LOTS of Treons still running around >the >woods up there !! Bill, bless his memory, was one of them. > > ALSO, have found several Pennsylavania books with old > Baptism rec's at the Rowan Co NC library for DRIAN and DRIANN etc that >look > suspiciously like our TREON of today. I think folks spelled the name > as they darn well pleased and now the descendents have to piece the > puzzle together. > > > Conclusion: > ** PATIENCE & perserverence are necessary to find our true answers. No >one's > research is wrong or to be criticized, we must all KEEP AN OPEN mind upon > receipt of PROOF either way. We are all still digging, so hang in there! >It > will take time and diligence and cooperation. > > Dave is definitely correct to keep digging. He may find all the previous >research to be in error! We just don't have enough info to prove or >disprove >any one single theory yet. (*also if anyone knows how to get into a >netscape >website, please let me know. Netscape has changed EVERYTHING and I wanted >to >get into the site and change it with notations, but can't even access it >or >delete it.) > > I don't know the true answer about the obvious disparity between dates >on >J.Michael's records and gravestone. >> SEE ABOVE > > However, I DO KNOW THAT MY VERY OWN GREAT GRANDPA was born 1841 PENSACOLA >FL > (per church and Bible rec's) yet HIS GRAVESTONE CLEARLY SAYS HE WAS BORN >1845!!! THIS IS A 3 YEAR MISTAKE!>> and, Bonnie, I've a grt.-grandmother >with >a 1-year error in hers !! > > My theory: > Often folks didn't have clear records of their own birth dates. My own > grandma and grandpa in MD had discrepancies between their birth date on >file > and the ones their families celebrated their entire lives! Believe it or > not-- ****This DOES HAPPEN! More often than we know!!!> Yes, but it >still >doesn't make Johann Michael the one born in Hatten !! Ours was an educated >man, therefore not likely to make a 5-1/2 year mistake !! :-))))) > > Think about it: > MIDWIVES who were often pretty darn illiterate would fill out the > birth certificates. My own mom was MARY TERESA ISTVAN all her life > and she was born in 1923 in Charles Co MD. Mom got a copy of her > own birth certificate which had been filled out by a midwife. She was > horrified to find out she had been "officially" listed as > TERRISHIA MARY ISTRAVAN (NO KIDDING!) and had to LEGALLY get it fixed! > I know of several other cousins of my parents that this happened to > in Maryland in the 20th century no less! > > Same thing happened to my own grandma with her name and her birth date > was over 13 months different on her birth certificate than on her > family record!! My opinion is that we need to re-look at the gravestone > issue WITH AN OPEN MIND/ without quickly dismissing him by believing > that it was "doubtful there could be such a mistake." Actually it >happened > often back then. ***At least in Maryland! > > Happy Easter to all of you and your families. > Bonnie >> And, Bonnie, the same to you and all of yours. We'll >celebrate >Easter in one of Carol's ancestral churches along the Mosel River and with >her wine-making cousins there !! Hoooooooo Boy ! > >Dave Ross > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi John & list. Great to hear from you. RE: DRION IN OHIO FROM HATTEN AS DEFINITE KIN TO TREON/DRION from ship JANET??? Sadly, "no" proof yet! --but it is still a possibility. I'm not entirely jumping ship on that possibility at this point. I'm just super confused! Several issues puzzle us including the discrepancy on the gravestone dates vs. birht info/ and who was CHRISTIAN??>> 1)Christian came on a ship, and he was a Drion or otherwise, depending on whose translation of the ship's list you read. 2) Christian was mentioned in the lore of the Montgomery County, Ohio, Treons as being in their ancestry; mentioned by SEVERAL of them, not just one. His exact relationship varies, depending on who was doing the mentioning. We must believe he existed, either as Johann Michael's father, or perhaps further back. 3) Merritt Wolfe chose to call him Johann Michael's father, but found no further trace of him. Here is the big dilemma: We just are trying to figure WHO this man of family lore passed down named CHRISTIAN TREON/TRION/DRION really was and why isn't he listed with your Hatten family who we thought was ours??>> He isn't listed in that Hatten family because that Hatten family probably isn't ours. The birth date of that Johann Michael DRION (11 Nov 1725) is at GREAT disparity with the accepted birthdate of "our" Johann Michael (17 July 1731: calculated from the VERY legible age at death on his gravestone). That's a disparity of over 5-1/2 years !! That Johann Michael's father was, yes, a barber/surgeon in Hatten. There was NO connection to the French Army. He was the village barber/surgeon. His name was Johann Georg Drion, and his father was Balthasar Drion, a court painter. The only other DRION of interest in this family is Johann Georg's brother, also living in Hatten, Johann Heinrich, artist and church elder. In NEITHER of those families is there a Christian Drion. Actually, in the entire time span of the Hatten records, there are precious few baptised with the name Christian at all !! It was not a popular name in that area. So much confusion with the spelling variations,etc. Was there really a CHRISTIAN? Were there more children not accounted for?? etc... Are there REAL researchable FRENCH army rosters which would list a surgeon? DAVE, do you know where we can check this out?>> These are cogent, legitimate questions. Bonnie, my best suggestion on the FRENCH Army Rosters would be to go to Rootsweb.com, find a mailing list there in France and ask the question there. I don't know, simply because I've never taken the time to look (I'm ashamed to admit that, but it's true !!) It may well be that some experienced researcher on one of those services might be of GREAT help. RE: "Christian" as a title or description/nickname based upon religion and not necessarily the man's given baptismal name???>> I doubt that. Ship manifests used given names. **Just a thought: (NOTE: OFTEN in the 1700's/1800's some folks were classified by their religion! )One of my ancestors was Catholic and he is not listed on the VA census by his given Christian name, but as "PAPIST MCVOY" - ** I know for a fact that "PAPIST" was NOT this man's name but a reference that he was a member of the ROMAN CATHOLIC Church!!!("Papist" referring to the Pope who is the head of the Roman Catholic religion on earth. Papal is an adjective which refers to the Pope and a "papist" is a follower of this religious doctrine.)Wonder if our "Christian" was referred to in the same manner? Perhaps our ancestor was nick-named for his pursuit of his Christian religious freedom!!! (Just a thought.) The "Papist" thing in a Virginia census about my own ancestor is hanging in the back of my mind. Perhaps the Christian part of his name was but a religious title?? Now, Dave said that TRYON are separate, but one of the DR.FREDERICK'S graves in PA is spelled as TRYON and there are TRION and TRINE that I personally believe "may" connect to TREON in PA. One of the kind folks from the TRYON list sent me info from the book about TRYON and SOME OF the TRYON appears to be derived somehow from a PETER TREION, and I think it may have said he was French. I read this over a year ago,so it is not real fresh in my memory, but our families could really connect at some early pre-America point in time. (Worth investigating.) ANYWAY, TREION is definitely interesting!>> Yes, Bill Treon and I visited that very TRYON grave, and I photoed him sitting on the good-sized grave marker !! Don't get me wrong about variant spellings: I'm not saying that a Tryon is not a Treon. I'm saying we must look at each variant as a separate family (which that TRYON of ours was), and that they probably derived from the Drion (as ours did: Drion>Trion.Treon>Tryon). Also TRAHAN and DRUION are families found in early Louisiana as well as HACHE' which apparently some decendents spell as ACHE which is remarkably similar to ACHEY and Hermanus Achey was spelled as ACHE. These folks were also French. There is so much wonderful history here-- whether or not they are kin to us remains to be proven or disproven. **But another bit of food for thought!>> And perhaps ALL related somewhere back along the line. I've just been doing an amazing amount of work on my HOLZHAUSEN line. It's eventually tied into TREON, but I won't confuse the issue here !! :-)) My point is that my GGgrandmother Louisa Holzhausen spelled her name that way. Her father, Rev. Philippe Friedrich HOLZHAUSEN spelled his name that way when he wrote it into the Koerdorf, Germany, church records. HIS father, the Rev. Engelhard Holzhausen, always spelled it HOLTZHAUSEN (with the "t"). They're all the same family, the same line, and we can't let the variant spellings throw us for a loop. I'm confident that someone of us will find the proper DRION family one of these days. They just aren't from Hatten !! Another good book is FLOYD'S NORTHUMBERLAND GENEALOGY about Northumberland Co PA and was on-line. (Is it still?) TREON line of Dr.Frederick is mentioned. My husband's line is direct from him and several are STILL living in Sunbury and surrounding areas of Northumberland Co. Most interesting! (Was on USGENWEB'S Northumb.Co site a while ago.)>> Yes there are LOTS of Treons still running around the woods up there !! Bill, bless his memory, was one of them. ALSO, have found several Pennsylavania books with old Baptism rec's at the Rowan Co NC library for DRIAN and DRIANN etc that look suspiciously like our TREON of today. I think folks spelled the name as they darn well pleased and now the descendents have to piece the puzzle together. Conclusion: ** PATIENCE & perserverence are necessary to find our true answers. No one's research is wrong or to be criticized, we must all KEEP AN OPEN mind upon receipt of PROOF either way. We are all still digging, so hang in there! It will take time and diligence and cooperation. Dave is definitely correct to keep digging. He may find all the previous research to be in error! We just don't have enough info to prove or disprove any one single theory yet. (*also if anyone knows how to get into a netscape website, please let me know. Netscape has changed EVERYTHING and I wanted to get into the site and change it with notations, but can't even access it or delete it.) I don't know the true answer about the obvious disparity between dates on J.Michael's records and gravestone. >> SEE ABOVE However, I DO KNOW THAT MY VERY OWN GREAT GRANDPA was born 1841 PENSACOLA FL (per church and Bible rec's) yet HIS GRAVESTONE CLEARLY SAYS HE WAS BORN 1845!!! THIS IS A 3 YEAR MISTAKE!>> and, Bonnie, I've a grt.-grandmother with a 1-year error in hers !! My theory: Often folks didn't have clear records of their own birth dates. My own grandma and grandpa in MD had discrepancies between their birth date on file and the ones their families celebrated their entire lives! Believe it or not-- ****This DOES HAPPEN! More often than we know!!!> Yes, but it still doesn't make Johann Michael the one born in Hatten !! Ours was an educated man, therefore not likely to make a 5-1/2 year mistake !! :-))))) Think about it: MIDWIVES who were often pretty darn illiterate would fill out the birth certificates. My own mom was MARY TERESA ISTVAN all her life and she was born in 1923 in Charles Co MD. Mom got a copy of her own birth certificate which had been filled out by a midwife. She was horrified to find out she had been "officially" listed as TERRISHIA MARY ISTRAVAN (NO KIDDING!) and had to LEGALLY get it fixed! I know of several other cousins of my parents that this happened to in Maryland in the 20th century no less! Same thing happened to my own grandma with her name and her birth date was over 13 months different on her birth certificate than on her family record!! My opinion is that we need to re-look at the gravestone issue WITH AN OPEN MIND/ without quickly dismissing him by believing that it was "doubtful there could be such a mistake." Actually it happened often back then. ***At least in Maryland! Happy Easter to all of you and your families. Bonnie >> And, Bonnie, the same to you and all of yours. We'll celebrate Easter in one of Carol's ancestral churches along the Mosel River and with her wine-making cousins there !! Hoooooooo Boy ! Dave Ross

Hi John & list. Great to hear from you. RE: DRION IN OHIO FROM HATTEN AS DEFINITE KIN TO TREON/DRION from ship JANET??? Sadly, "no" proof yet! --but it is still a possibility. I'm not entirely jumping ship on that possibility at this point. I'm just super confused! Several issues puzzle us including the discrepancy on the gravestone dates vs. birht info/ and who was CHRISTIAN?? Here is the big dilemma: We just are trying to figure WHO this man of family lore passed down named CHRISTIAN TREON/TRION/DRION really was and why isn't he listed with your Hatten family who we thought was ours?? So much confusion with the spelling variations,etc. Was there really a CHRISTIAN? Were there more children not accounted for?? etc... Are there REAL researchable FRENCH army rosters which would list a surgeon? DAVE, do you know where we can check this out? RE: "Christian" as a title or description/nickname based upon religion and not necessarily the man's given baptismal name??? **Just a thought: (NOTE: OFTEN in the 1700's/1800's some folks were classified by their religion! )One of my ancestors was Catholic and he is not listed on the VA census by his given Christian name, but as "PAPIST MCVOY" - ** I know for a fact that "PAPIST" was NOT this man's name but a reference that he was a member of the ROMAN CATHOLIC Church!!!("Papist" referring to the Pope who is the head of the Roman Catholic religion on earth. Papal is an adjective which refers to the Pope and a "papist" is a follower of this religious doctrine.)Wonder if our "Christian" was referred to in the same manner? Perhaps our ancestor was nick-named for his pursuit of his Christian religious freedom!!! (Just a thought.) The "Papist" thing in a Virginia census about my own ancestor is hanging in the back of my mind. Perhaps the Christian part of his name was but a religious title?? Now, Dave said that TRYON are separate, but one of the DR.FREDERICK'S graves in PA is spelled as TRYON and there are TRION and TRINE that I personally believe "may" connect to TREON in PA. One of the kind folks from the TRYON list sent me info from the book about TRYON and SOME OF the TRYON appears to be derived somehow from a PETER TREION, and I think it may have said he was French. I read this over a year ago,so it is not real fresh in my memory, but our families could really connect at some early pre-America point in time. (Worth investigating.) ANYWAY, TREION is definitely interesting! Also TRAHAN and DRUION are families found in early Louisiana as well as HACHE' which apparently some decendents spell as ACHE which is remarkably similar to ACHEY and Hermanus Achey was spelled as ACHE. These folks were also French. There is so much wonderful history here-- whether or not they are kin to us remains to be proven or disproven. **But another bit of food for thought! Another good book is FLOYD'S NORTHUMBERLAND GENEALOGY about Northumberland Co PA and was on-line. (Is it still?) TREON line of Dr.Frederick is mentioned. My husband's line is direct from him and several are STILL living in Sunbury and surrounding areas of Northumberland Co. Most interesting! (Was on USGENWEB'S Northumb.Co site a while ago.) ALSO, have found several Pennsylavania books with old Baptism rec's at the Rowan Co NC library for DRIAN and DRIANN etc that look suspiciously like our TREON of today. I think folks spelled the name as they darn well pleased and now the descendents have to piece the puzzle together. Conclusion: ** PATIENCE & perserverence are necessary to find our true answers. No one's research is wrong or to be criticized, we must all KEEP AN OPEN mind upon receipt of PROOF either way. We are all still digging, so hang in there! It will take time and diligence and cooperation. Dave is definitely correct to keep digging. He may find all the previous research to be in error! We just don't have enough info to prove or disprove any one single theory yet. (*also if anyone knows how to get into a netscape website, please let me know. Netscape has changed EVERYTHING and I wanted to get into the site and change it with notations, but can't even access it or delete it.) I don't know the true answer about the obvious disparity between dates on J.Michael's records and gravestone. However, I DO KNOW THAT MY VERY OWN GREAT GRANDPA was born 1841 PENSACOLA FL (per church and Bible rec's) yet HIS GRAVESTONE CLEARLY SAYS HE WAS BORN 1845!!! THIS IS A 3 YEAR MISTAKE! My theory: Often folks didn't have clear records of their own birth dates. My own grandma and grandpa in MD had discrepancies between their birth date on file and the ones their families celebrated their entire lives! Believe it or not-- ****This DOES HAPPEN! More often than we know!!! Think about it: MIDWIVES who were often pretty darn illiterate would fill out the birth certificates. My own mom was MARY TERESA ISTVAN all her life and she was born in 1923 in Charles Co MD. Mom got a copy of her own birth certificate which had been filled out by a midwife. She was horrified to find out she had been "officially" listed as TERRISHIA MARY ISTRAVAN (NO KIDDING!) and had to LEGALLY get it fixed! I know of several other cousins of my parents that this happened to in Maryland in the 20th century no less! Same thing happened to my own grandma with her name and her birth date was over 13 months different on her birth certificate than on her family record!! My opinion is that we need to re-look at the gravestone issue WITH AN OPEN MIND/ without quickly dismissing him by believing that it was "doubtful there could be such a mistake." Actually it happened often back then. ***At least in Maryland! Happy Easter to all of you and your families. Bonnie >From: "John C. Heiby" <heiby@1st.net> >Reply-To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TREON] TREON'S PA>OH / **WELCOME NEWFOUND COUSIN/FAMILY >HISTORY >Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:13:13 -0400 > >X-Loop: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: TREON-L-request@rootsweb.com > > >Has anyone found the connection to Anna Margaretha Drion? > > >-- >John C. Heiby, St. Clairsville, Ohio near Wheeling, West Virginia > raised in Liberty Township, Crawford Co., Ohio, USA > >Son of Raymond W. Heiby & Geraldine M. Schwab >Son of John (Johann) Philip Heiby & Martha Linn >Son of Frederick Heiby & Caroline Kafer >Son of Valentine Heiby & Magdalena Heimlich >Son of Johann Georges Heuby & Salome' Strohm (Strom) >Son of Johann Heinrich Heybi & Anna Salome' Roerig (Roehrig) >Son of Johann Michel Heiby/Heybi (a Weaver) & Anna Margaretha Drion >Son of Johann Michel Heiby (born in Hatten, Alsace , near Strasbourg) > & Anna >Barbara >Werner > > > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Has anyone found the connection to Anna Margaretha Drion? -- John C. Heiby, St. Clairsville, Ohio near Wheeling, West Virginia raised in Liberty Township, Crawford Co., Ohio, USA Son of Raymond W. Heiby & Geraldine M. Schwab Son of John (Johann) Philip Heiby & Martha Linn Son of Frederick Heiby & Caroline Kafer Son of Valentine Heiby & Magdalena Heimlich Son of Johann Georges Heuby & Salome' Strohm (Strom) Son of Johann Heinrich Heybi & Anna Salome' Roerig (Roehrig) Son of Johann Michel Heiby/Heybi (a Weaver) & Anna Margaretha Drion Son of Johann Michel Heiby (born in Hatten, Alsace , near Strasbourg) & Anna Barbara Werner

Hi, Bonnie: Yes, the Johann Michael (Dr. Michael) Drion/Treon who came on the "Janet" is "ours." My line, using direct people only is David Ross<Esther Mildred Ross<Ida Daisy Owen<Elizabeth Treon<Joshua Treon<Jonathon Francis Treon<Johann Michael Treon Sr. (who arrived Phila. on the "Janet"). This incidence of Christian Treon was to Merritt Wolfe, and is to me, too often mentioned to be untrue. However, until we can find a Drion family in Europe that produced our Johann Michael, we're up a stump. I told Brenda (latest Cuz) awhile ago that I've not given up the quest, but there are so dern many places to look !! You already know that I'm convinced the Hatten family, while tempting, are not "our" Drion family. The birth dates for the two Johann Michaels is just too far off. I can't believe that our Johann Michael's age on his gravestone is in gross error to the extent of several years (4-1/2, without looking at the moment). We all know that anything is possible, though. And Christian may have been a 'myth' that got carried down through the family. Below are some data on Johann Michael (unedited, for I need to do a lot of cleaning up in my Treon entries) -------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Treon Sr. Family History: by Merritt W. Wolfe: pg. 7 (in family book): Dr. J. Michael Drion, Sr., arrived on the ship "Janet" 7 Oct 1751. William Cunningham was the captain. It sailed from Rotterdam, last from Cowes. There were 220 passengers on board with 96 men, 16 years and older, listed. The rest were women and children. A year later, on 20 Oct 1752, the "Duke of Wirtemburg"[sic] with Daniel Montpelier, Commander, from Rotterdam and last from Cowes, again docked in Philadelphia with 142 male passengers listed with a possible 406 capacity. On this ship was Christian Drion, who we believe (was the father of Dr. J. Michael Drion, Sr.). (This relationship is recorded in Rev. W.H. Brown's "A Memoir of Dr. John Treon" (- Brown being a great grandson who apparently wrote this after Dr. John's death). Christian Drion was reported to have come from Alsace-Lorraine and was a French Army doctor. Treon Genealogy Web Page (printouts in family book): PA German Pioneers, Reima: Johann Michaell Drion, (list 176C) at the courthouse at Phila. PA, Wed. 16 Oct 1751, ship=Duke of Wirtenberg", Capt. Montpelier, Commander from Rotterdam and Cowes in England (now how could he be on the same ship as Christian?) Treon Genealogy Web Page (printouts in family book): Naturalizations in America and West Indies: Naturl. of Foreign Protest. in America and W. Indies Colonies -- the following certif. for the colonies have NOT been entered in the ENTRY; BK C.O. 51276(??), Michall Drion, Heidelberg Twp., Lancaster Co., PA, Sacrament when taken, 21 Sep 1765 Dr. J Michael Trion, Sr., lived and practiced medicine in or near Schaefferstown, PA, and had 6 children by his first wife. One of these sons was Dr. Michael Trion, Jr., who set up his practice in Rehersburg, PA (probably Rehrersburg; DNR). Most histories follow Rev. W.H. Brown's writing and claim Christian Drion to be the father of Dr. Michael Trion, Jr., of Rehrersburg, PA, omitting Dr. J. Michael Sr. in the family lineup. To leave out Dr. J. Michael Sr. upsets the train of relationships. The emigrant [sic] listing of Christian Drion arriving in Philadelphia is the last evidence we have of him. We suspect that he may have brought more members of his family with him. In Williams' "Philadelphia Administrations and Wills" there is a Jacob Tryon listed as Adm. in 1773, Wills for 1793 and 1802, and Adm. in 1803. This Jacob Tryon could have been a son of our Christian Drion and a brother to our J. Michael Drion Sr. Names of persons such as George, Frederick, Elizabeth and Sarah Tryon are known to have married in Philadelphia around 1800. Our connection to Christian Drion is somewhat nebulous, since we have no hard evidence such as cemetery or death or other family records to rely on. On the other hand, the Dr. John Treon of Miamisburg, Ohio, must have discussed his family in some detail with his pastor. It is not likely he would fantasize his past. He must have known of Dr. Christian Trion and when he arrived in Philadelphia. He must have been proud of his heritage. Dr. Michael Treon Sr. Family History: by Merritt W. Wolfe: pg. 19/20: (some is paraphrased, and page 19 is in the family book) (Birth date is borne out by his gravestone). History tells us that the French Huguenots began coming to Pennsylvania starting in 1750. Cowes, which was the final departure point for JM's ship in 1751, is a small town located on the north side of the Isle of Wight, off the south coast of England. At this particular time, all ships sailing from Rotterdam stopped at Cowes to pick up supplies. I suspect (Merritt Wolfe speaking) that it was also to register the number of new residents to the new colony of Pennsylvania. Was Dr. Michael Drion Sr. alone? There is no way of knowing. These ships were owned by a group of investors. It was the captain's task to show a profit. If the trip took longer,, transportation cost went up. So, many families sold themselves "into indentured service." If children were thus sold, they seldom saw their parents again. Since Dr. Michael Drion did not start a family until 1754, I surmise that he was sent out to scout out the new world to see if it was as described. Evidently, after looking it over, he concluded it was worth the trip, sent word back, and his father (Dr. Christian Drion) arrived a year later, perhaps with brothers and sisters. We are not certain of Dr. Michael Treon's first wife. A letter from Mrs. Harold Mohn (1 Aug 1980) says, "I have material on Dr. Tryon -- a surgeon in the Revolution. He married an 'ACHY', one of the old line Huguenot families in our area." In further correspondence, she covered his second marriage to Eva Rambler as though she were the mother of all his children, which is impossible. Many family groups which were on the "Janet" with Dr. JM settled in the Sheafferstown area. Three Achey families (Dr JM's first wife has been rumored as an Achy) were on the "Halifax" when it came on 22 Sep 1752, and there were undoubtedly daughters of an age to wed Dr. JM, for the families settled in Sheafferstown or the area. Births to Dr. JM's 1st wife must've spanned 1754- 1773. The will of his 2nd wife, Eva Margaret Ramler, named her children (assumed to be): Barbara (1776), Eva Elizabeth (1778), Polly Magdaline (1780), Peggy Margaret (21 Sep 1782), Christoph Emanuel (18 May 1783), Jonathon Francis (29 Aug 1784), no name (1788), Dr. Peter (11 Sep 1790), and Salome Sally (6 Dec 1793). In practice, Dr. Trion was probably a saddlebag doctor, riding to his patients' homes in various weathers, day or night. Medical abilities were very crude and depended more on instinct, ability to comfort, and faith than on a man's ability. Drugs and medicines were created from plants and materials available to hand. On the night of 28 Dec 1797, Schaefferstown was shocked by a murder. The victim was treated by our Dr. Trion, but he died from loss of blood. The murderers were caught and hanged. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Concerning Bill Treon, Bonnie -- here is what I entered in my data base: *) So far as DNR knows, Bill Treon is deceased as of Feb 2001. I had an e-mail from him late in 2000, and he was working on his laptop in the hospital while receiving radiation treatment. I heard nothing further. I sent them a Christmas card and asked as to their situation. As of March 2001 I've had no answer. Nancy was quite ill, too (kidneys), so I've no idea what happened. Too bad. Carol and I enjoyed the time we spent in 1999 with Bill, tromping the Treon turf around that part of Pennsylvania. I'm certain Bill would've been in touch were he still around. He's been on my buddy list since the git-go, and I've not seen him since the contact I mentioned above. If he were on line, I'd know it. Nancy was a rather odd person. If she's still alive, she has simply chosen not to make contact. With Bill's passing goes his tremendous talent in oil painting, his love of the genealogy, his penchant for collecting children's rocking horses (the back yard was FULL of them, done up in carousel fashion), and a fun person. Don't let the variantly-spelled surnames confuse you, Bonnie. Our line are (early, in Europe) Drion, (next, in early PA) Trion, then Treon on down the line. The others are probably related somewhow, but names got changed during immigration, one way or another. The TRYON group are a distinct clan. It's a situation similar to John, who was on yesterday I believe, and his legitimate tie of the southern Ohio Drion to Hatten. That lady IS of the Hatten Drions. It's possible some of the variant spellings you have are, too. However, there are so MANY Drion families around the Pfalz and the Palatinate that it's difficult to know who over here belonged to whom over there !! Well, I'd best get off my soapbox and get some other work done. Nice contacting you. I've sent a bunch of info to Brenda, and I hope it's helped get her straightened out. She had some pretty big errors in her relationships. Of course, I sent her so much that she might be more confused now than ever :-))) Dave Ross

**HERE IS A CHRISTIAN "TRINE" who married in 1829: LOCKARD, WILLIAM TRINE, SARAH 19 Oct 1840 Carroll MD EBAUGH, JESSE TRINE, RACHEL E. B. 3 Mar 1865 Carroll MD LEISTER, JESSE L. TRINE, SARAH 22 Dec 1854 Carroll MD LEISTER, NOAH J. TRINE, MARY C. 18 Dec 1870 Carroll MD TRINE, DAVID U. EBAUGH, MARTHA 8 Nov 1865 Carroll MD TRINE, CHRISTIAN GELWISE, MARY ELIZABETH 20 Nov 1829 Washington MD _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Dave. We really don't know "if" they do or do not connect somewhere. I agree with your research that that if there is no CHRISTIAN in the DRION family, he may not be ours, but what about the ship's records and baptismal records in PA. I found some PA records books at the library here in NC that list DRIANN, DRIAN etc as well as TRINE. I am starting to get kind of confused here. OK,was the MICHAEL DRION who came on the ship JANET "ours" in reference to TREON? Also, Dave, have you found out anything about Will Treon? Let us know if you have. Thanks again. Sounds great that you are heading back to Europe. Someday when my kids grow up, I hope to travel. Right now, it's kind of tough. Hope you have a safe and wonderful trip. Bonnie >From: Newtross@aol.com >Reply-To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TREON] TREON'S PA>OH / **WELCOME NEWFOUND COUSIN/FAMILY >HISTORY >Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:48:41 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [63.92.80.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC96F7D30034400432223F5C507B06DD0; Fri Apr 06 04:47:31 2001 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id >f36BmqG07747;Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:48:52 -0700 >From TREON-L-request@rootsweb.com Fri Apr 06 04:47:45 2001 >Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:48:52 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: Newtross@aol.com Fri Apr 6 04:48:52 2001 >Message-ID: <77.12a4276d.27ff0719@aol.com> >Old-To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 108 >Resent-Message-ID: <-KkRiC.A.04B.k0az6@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <TREON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/93 >X-Loop: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: TREON-L-request@rootsweb.com > >I think, John, that we've talked before. Your Drion from Hatten, if I'm >not >mistaken, is an Ohio Drion, not necessarily connected to the Dr. Treon of >Pennsylvania ?? > >Dave Ross >Denver, CO > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Brenda, Wow! You have much more info than I do. Thankfully we have been blessed with cousin Dave Ross who is fluent in German too and he travels to Europe where his daughter resides. Please do contact Dave, he is super! mailto:newtross@aol.com is his email. Hope you will keep in touch with all of us TREON folk from all locations! This is soooo... FASCINATING & WONDERFUL!!!! Bonnie >From: "Casey and Brenda Hines" <kcrad@iolky.com> >To: "Bonnie&Jeff Treon" <cooltreons@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Treon family heritage >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:19:45 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [205.198.148.5] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC963C1B006F40043156CDC694050AD50; Thu Apr 05 15:26:36 2001 >Received: from computer [205.198.155.143] by mail.integrityonline30.com >(SMTPD32-6.05) id AEF67D0130; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 18:17:26 -0400 >From kcrad@iolky.com Thu Apr 05 15:27:02 2001 >Message-ID: <001b01c0be1e$85eef420$8f9bc6cd@computer> >References: <F277VGeSJIEoPXCFbN4000008df@hotmail.com> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > >It was good to hear back from you. My father (Elwood Treon) came over this >afternoon and I showed him your site. He was so excited. In Kentucky we >are the only family of Treon's in the state - at least that we know about - >so it's good to know that there are others out there. Here are some >things that might help you in your search. > >I have a book which was given to me by my grandmother entitled Miamisburg >(Ohio) the First 150 years. This book contains much information about the >Treon family and speaks of the Christian Treon (Tryon) you mentioned. Here >is a short excerpt of the book. > >One of old Miamisburg's most notable citizens was Dr. John Treon, whose >home >was the imposing gray brick residence at 315 East Linden, adjacent to >Trinity Church. > >Dr. Treon's residence in Miamisburg is practically the history of the >earlier town itself. He came from a line of physicians. His grandfather, >Dr. Christian Treon (Tryon), was a surgeon in the French army, who arrived >in Philadelphia in 1752. He later moved to Berks County in that state and >there his son Dr. Michael Treon was born in 1761, and his grandson, Dr. >John >Treon in 1791. Dr. John Treon went to Philadelphia where he studied under >the best medical men of his day. > >In September, 1811, with his uncle Dr. Peter Treon, he set out on horseback >for Ohio and arrived in this vicinity 14 days later with 37 1/2 cents in >his >pocket and a debt of $50 for a horse. ... > >The book goes on and on with other information about the Ohio Treons > > >I don't know if anyone has a copy of this book or not. If you want me to >send copies of the pertinent pages to you I will be glad to do so. > >Also, if you need help translating German, we can help out. We have an >Austrian exchange student living with us for two more months and she is >fluent in German, French and English. She said she will be glad to help >with translation if needed. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I think, John, that we've talked before. Your Drion from Hatten, if I'm not mistaken, is an Ohio Drion, not necessarily connected to the Dr. Treon of Pennsylvania ?? Dave Ross Denver, CO

Treons, I can trace one Drion to Hatten, Alsace, Bas-Rhin, now France. John C. Heiby ---------- >From: "Bonnie&Jeff Treon" <cooltreons@hotmail.com> >To: TREON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TREON] TREON'S PA>OH / **WELCOME NEWFOUND COUSIN/FAMILY HISTORY >Date: Thu, Apr 5, 2001, 1:40 PM > > WELCOME OUR NEWFOUND COUSIN! > > From: "Casey and Brenda Hines" <kcrad@iolky.com> > To: <cooltreons@hotmail.com> > Subject: Treon family heritage > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:44:20 -0500 > > > **Forwarded letter from BRENDA TREON HINES: > > mailto:kcrad@iolky.com > I wandered upon your website while I was researching my family heritage and > I think I found some common links. My great-great-great-great grandfather > was Dr. Jonathan Treon (also known as John Francis or Frances Jonathan) who > seems to be the 11th child listed as a child of Michael Treon. Jonathan was > born in Pennsylvania in 1784. He was married to Catherine Leiter and their > son David was my greatx3 grandfather. Jonathan died June 9, 1855. My > unconfirmed records indicated that Jonathan was the son of Michael Trion and > his second wife, Elisabeth Seltzer. Michael's fathers name was also Michael > and he is listed as a private in the militia of Lancaster County, > Pennsylvania according to my records - but you seem to have him being in > Heidelberg if I understand what you have written. > > Another son of Dr. Michael Trion is Dr. Peter Treon who traveled to and > basically founded Miamisburg, Ohio with his nephew John. > > On my maternal great grandmother's side, the Treon name continues to appear > and we feel she is descended from the above mentioned nephew John, and > almost surely linked to the above side of the family. Almost everyone is > from Berks County, Pennsylvania. Her name is Ida Jane Stine, who was the > daughter of Sarah Jane Treon Stine, who was the daughter of Michael Treon of > Berks Co. born July 6, 1820 and died May 5, 1900. He is buried in the > Ellerton Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County. We have not been > able to trace this Michael back further, but feel he must be related to the > other side. We do know that he had some legal dealings with the above Dr. > John Treon (my 4xgreatgrandfather above) because he put up a security binder > of $1100 along with Isaac Treon (Dr. John's youngest brother) when Francis > Jonathan Treon's estate was settled in 1855 and 1856. However, we have not > been able to trace this side of the family any further. > > I am very interested in information which will help me extend the family > tree of John Francis (which appears is the #11 son of your Michael) and the > Michael on my maternal great grandmother's side. > > I am particularly interested in what part of Alsace/Lorraine they came from, > as I will be in that area in June and I would love to see the towns. > > Please write if you have further information, can clarify this information, > or if you would like the information I have to fill for Jonathan Treon. > >>From BRENDA TREON HINES > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

BRENDA: I have printed out your lengthy e-mail concerning the TRERON/DRION line., and I will respond to it in greater detail later. When are you leaving for Europe? We are leaveingfor Europe also on 12 April, and I want to get further info to you before we go. There is currently no FIRM info on where in Elsass-Lothringen our Drion/Trion/Treon line came from. There are erroneous indications of their being from Hatten, but my research of the church records there has not borne this theory out. That they were from the Alsace/Pfalz is undoubted, but just where is still a mystery. I have some info/data on your line in this country that youm will find interesting. If you're going to be around for awhile yet (before heading "over there"), let me know, and I'll try to send as much to you as I can. You and I are related. We're cousins. And I'd be delighted to share info with you !! Where are you located in these great States of ours?? Dave Ross Denver, CO newtross@aol.com

WELCOME OUR NEWFOUND COUSIN! From: "Casey and Brenda Hines" <kcrad@iolky.com> To: <cooltreons@hotmail.com> Subject: Treon family heritage Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:44:20 -0500 **Forwarded letter from BRENDA TREON HINES: mailto:kcrad@iolky.com I wandered upon your website while I was researching my family heritage and I think I found some common links. My great-great-great-great grandfather was Dr. Jonathan Treon (also known as John Francis or Frances Jonathan) who seems to be the 11th child listed as a child of Michael Treon. Jonathan was born in Pennsylvania in 1784. He was married to Catherine Leiter and their son David was my greatx3 grandfather. Jonathan died June 9, 1855. My unconfirmed records indicated that Jonathan was the son of Michael Trion and his second wife, Elisabeth Seltzer. Michael's fathers name was also Michael and he is listed as a private in the militia of Lancaster County, Pennsylvania according to my records - but you seem to have him being in Heidelberg if I understand what you have written. Another son of Dr. Michael Trion is Dr. Peter Treon who traveled to and basically founded Miamisburg, Ohio with his nephew John. On my maternal great grandmother's side, the Treon name continues to appear and we feel she is descended from the above mentioned nephew John, and almost surely linked to the above side of the family. Almost everyone is from Berks County, Pennsylvania. Her name is Ida Jane Stine, who was the daughter of Sarah Jane Treon Stine, who was the daughter of Michael Treon of Berks Co. born July 6, 1820 and died May 5, 1900. He is buried in the Ellerton Cemetery, Jefferson Township, Montgomery County. We have not been able to trace this Michael back further, but feel he must be related to the other side. We do know that he had some legal dealings with the above Dr. John Treon (my 4xgreatgrandfather above) because he put up a security binder of $1100 along with Isaac Treon (Dr. John's youngest brother) when Francis Jonathan Treon's estate was settled in 1855 and 1856. However, we have not been able to trace this side of the family any further. I am very interested in information which will help me extend the family tree of John Francis (which appears is the #11 son of your Michael) and the Michael on my maternal great grandmother's side. I am particularly interested in what part of Alsace/Lorraine they came from, as I will be in that area in June and I would love to see the towns. Please write if you have further information, can clarify this information, or if you would like the information I have to fill for Jonathan Treon. >From BRENDA TREON HINES _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

FWD >From: norm treon <ntreon@msn.com> >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:16:18 -0600 > >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: GC-Polk County Iowa Query Forum >URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Ia/Polk/11439 >Subject: Georgia Treon > > >Surname: Treon >------------------------- > >Ss Death index list Georgia Treon Residence 50320 Des Moines, Polk, IA., >b 12jan 1935 d 21 oct 1996. Seeking to learn if married, husbands name, >children. Any help appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

TREON OBIT FWD >From: "Phyllis Miller Fleming" <PhyllisMillerFleming@starband.net> >To: mcvoy_treon@hotmail.com >Subject: PML Search Result matching "Alexander Buckler" or "Samuel Suit" or >"Samuel Suite" or "Norris Suit" or "Norris Suite" or "John Suit" or "John >Suite" or "Sute" or Suitt or TREON >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:43:04 -0600 > >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: TREON obit > > >from Barb Huff: >Andrew TREON, d 1889 >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inshelby/obit_treon.htm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

TREON >From: DANCE8509@aol.com >To: mcvoy_treon@hotmail.com >Subject: PML Search Result matching "Alexander Buckler" or "Samuel Suit" or >"Samuel Suite" or "Norris Suit" or "Norris Suite" or "John Suit" or "John >Suite" or "Sute" or Suitt or TREON >Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:54:56 -0600 > >===================================================================== >A result of your requested PML search. To refine or cancel this >search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >===================================================================== >Source: INSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Treon Obit > > >Hello List- > >I finally have a lead on my missing Andrew Treon, but it is questionable. >I >have found in the wonderful cemetery listings for Jackson Twp., a Patterson >Cemetery that has a listing of unmarked graves. On it is a Andrew D. Treon >d. July 13, 1889. They got this information from an obituary on July 18, >1889. The date is in the time period of his missing exsistance and the >death >age is three years off. Still I have a hope that this is my gg >grandfather. >I'm hoping that the obit will list his wife and sons, Mary, William, Scott, >Archibald. Can someone help me find the obit? > >Thanks >Courtney > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi cousins! DOES anyone connect to a THOMAS MCVOY of PA who d. in Civil War in 1864??? I "accidently" found his grave here in NC! I was at a convention in NEW BERN NC when I decided to check out the TRYON PALACE & GARDENS. Their gift shop had 2 books on Craven Co NC graves so I peeked through the first one and saw (to my amazement!) the name THOMAS MCVOY who died in 1864 in the CIVIL WAR and he is buried in section 7 of the NATIONAL CEMETERY IN NEW BERN,NC. (There are at least 3 good sized rows of burials from PA there!) My great grandpa did have a brother Thomas but as far as I know, he fought for the Confederacy in Pensacola and didn't die (as far as I know??) in the Civil War. Now my great grandpa did fight for the Union, so I guess anything is possible. **PLEASE, does anyone know who this THOMAS MCVOY was? No birth date or other info listed just he was from PA and died in 1864 (I should've written exact date, sorry) Anyway, some of the graves next to his said 171st and 161st so that could be a clue. Please contact me at mailto:cooltreons@hotmail.com if anyone knows anything about this Thomas MCVOY or THOMAS E. MCVOY of Pensacola who was married to INDIANA HERNANDEZ. THANKS. Bonnie McVoy Treon mailto:cooltreons@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi everyone! This is a nice email fwd from a kind person who responded to my EVA BARBARA BRUCHER query on genforum! === From: dbricker@cyburban.com Save Address - Block Sender To: COOLTREONS@hotmail.com Save Address Subject: Eva Barbara BRICKER/BRÜCHER/BRÜCKER Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:19:32 -0500 Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close Re: Johann Christian BRÜCHER (1762-1826), PA Posted by: BONNIE MCVOY TREON Date: May 19, 1999 at 09:24:13 In Reply to: Johann Christian BRÜCHER (1762-1826), PA by Step Tyner Hi. Our TREON family of BERKS>NORTHUMBERLAND CO PA had an EVA BARBARA BRUCHER who married Dr.FREDERICK TRION/TREON Sr. of ALSACE LORAINE FR>BERKS/LEBANON CO PA in the 1700's. She was said to be a daughter of CHRISTIAN BRUCHER and BARBARA? Seeking further info. Bonnie Treon gatreon@ctc.net Bonnie: Better late than never! Eva Barbara Bricker was born Eva 10 July 1772, daughter of Christian & Barbara Bricker of Cocalico Township, Lancaster County, Penn, but grew up after father's death in Berks County, affiliated with Christ Lutheran Church in Stouchberg. See: "Records of Pastoral Acts at Christ Lutheran Church, Stouchsburg, Berks County, PA" translated and edited by Frederick S. Weiser. Listed as "Brücker" in "Berks County Births" by Humphrey. Eva Barbara was apparently baptized at the age of nineteen, on June 12, 1791, not unusual despite the fact that it was a Lutheran church, given that her father when alive had been a staunch Mennonite. We know nothing of her death or any details about her husband or children. Please fill us in with details. Regards, Dale Bricker _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

LEBANON COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA, 1747-1875: MILLBACH REFORMED CONGREGATION Millbach Township lies in Lebanon County, which is located in southeastern Pennsylvania. The Millbach Reformed Congregation is located in the township. This database contains birth, marriage, and death records of the Millbach Reformed Congregation for the years 1747 to 1875. With more than 4,600 names, it will prove helpful for those researching early residents (especially German immigrants) of Pennsylvania. Source Information: Lineages, Inc., comp. "Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, 1747-1875: Millbach Reformed Congregation." [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Original data: William J. Hinke. "Church records of the Millbach Reformed Congregation, Millbach Township, Lebanon County, 1747-1875." Typescript records at Franklin and Marshall College, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. To search this database, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5487.htm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi. I am still hunting Trine/Tryon Valletta1@aol.com <Catherine Tryon Reiners>