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    1. Re: [TGF] [APG Members] Nickname of Jack
    2. Eileen Souza
    3. It can also be an Americanized version of a foreign such as the Portuguese name Joaquin. My husband's uncle is called Jack. Eileen _______________________________ Eileen A Souza Eldersburg, MD Old Bones Genealogy LLC info@oldbonesgenealogy.com www.oldbonesgenealogy.com > -----Original Message----- > From: apgmembersonlylist-bounces+eileen.souza=gmail.com@apgen.org > [mailto:apgmembersonlylist-bounces+eileen.souza=gmail.com@apgen.org] On > Behalf Of Susan C Fassbender > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:48 AM > To: Mail list APG > Subject: [APG Members] Nickname of Jack > > Good Morning, > > I am wondering what names you have found associated with the nickname of > "Jack." I know the obvious one is John, but what other names could potentially be > used with Jack? > > Thanks so much for your ideas and thoughts. > > Susan C Fassbender > Outagamie and Beyond > Historical and Genealogical Research >

    11/20/2012 03:16:14
    1. Re: [TGF] Nickname of Jack
    2. Susan: It depends on religious background and foreign language background. If the family is from the British Isles, the most likely answer is John -> Jock (Scottish) -> Jack. If the family is Spanish or Portuguese, Joaquin/m -> Jack. Joaquin/m is the same name as Joachim/Joakim. If the family is Germanic, Biblical King Jehoiachin -> Joachim -> Jack. I have a young man who immigrated to Nebraska in the 1800s from Schweswig-Holstein. He changed from Joachim to Jack. Since his brother Johan changed to John in the US, there is potential for confusion by their descendants. Throughout medieval Europe, Joachim was a saint's name applied to the father of Mary, the mother of Jesus. Thus the name Joachim exists in many forms in European languages. However, when the immigrants came to the US, they found that the name was largely unknown. The Protestants rejected the Old Testament Apocrypha, and Joachim/Joakim was a character in one of the books of the Apocrypha. To make life easier an immigrant would often adopt a name beginning with the same or similar sound(s). If the name began with an "H" or a vowel, a name beginning with any vowel would do. Someone of French origin might change from Jacques -> Jack, because of the similar sounds, even though etymologically Jacob or James in English is the same as Jacques. English seems to be the only language which splits the Old Testament Jacob into the New Testament James. Other languages use the same word for both. In my lecture on given names and nicknames and in a separate lecture called "Bible Names---(Almost) Unrecognizable in America," there is a section called "Who Were Jack, Jake, and Jim?" -------------------------------- Eileen Souza <eileen.souza@gmail.com> wrote: It can also be an Americanized version of a foreign such as the Portuguese name Joaquin. My husband's uncle is called Jack. -------------------------------- On Behalf Of Susan C Fassbender Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:48 AM Subject: [APG Members] Nickname of Jack I am wondering what names you have found associated with the nickname of "Jack." I know the obvious one is John, but what other names could potentially be used with Jack? ...

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