BLM means Bureau of Land Management. The reference you saw refers to the fact that the Bounty Land application file was destroyed by fire in one of two fires in 1800 and 1814. The answer to your question lies in tracing down other bounty land records that are extant - warrants, patents if it was approved, etc. I suspect by now you have received many answers to your question for I get the messages by blocks, but if you don't get any answers, email to me. Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-request <transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 12:53 am Subject: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 651 The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. Today's Topics: 1. Revolutionary War Pension File Question (mrsmurphy1@aol.com) 2. Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question (mrsmurphy1@aol.com) 3. Re: Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question (John Yates) 4. Re: Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? [Cumi] (idamc@seanet.com) 5. Re: Vivian (idamc@seanet.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:13:02 -0500 From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com Subject: [TGF] Revolutionary War Pension File Question To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2F68AB29-3A5D-49CE-B22E-FBBD0F888383@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! Janeth Murphy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:37:28 -0500 From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com Subject: [TGF] Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <64D36087-8CBF-4FF0-BEE0-BF01DA8D564C@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii After staring at this for a few hours, I realize my mistake on the notations. It is not B.L.M. but rather B.L.Wt. Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant? Thanks again Janeth Murphy > From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com > Date: December 11, 2012, 2:13:02 PM EST > To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Subject: Revolutionary War Pension File Question > > I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! > > Janeth Murphy > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:02:23 -0500 From: John Yates <john@jytangledweb.org> Subject: Re: [TGF] Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <50C7C98F.2020806@jytangledweb.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Janeth, I have a copy of "Index of Revolutionary War Pension Applications in the National Archives", Bicentennial Edition (hasn't changed much since!). (includes BLWts). If you let us know the Patriot name I'll look him up. John On 12/11/2012 4:37 PM, mrsmurphy1@aol.com wrote: > After staring at this for a few hours, I realize my mistake on the notations. It is not B.L.M. but rather B.L.Wt. Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant? Thanks again > > Janeth Murphy > > > >> From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com >> Date: December 11, 2012, 2:13:02 PM EST >> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Revolutionary War Pension File Question >> >> I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! >> >> Janeth Murphy >> > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: idamc@seanet.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? [Cumi] To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <49756.71.212.125.201.1355288941.squirrel@wm.seanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 S. Rankin has hit the nail on the head with Cumi. Pat Dunford suggested a mistranscription of Curry. Lower-case M is hard to distinguish from 2 Rs in some handwriting. Curry/Currie is a surname that could be used as a middle name. It was the first explanation that occurred to me, also. However, in my opinion, Cumi is what was intended for Stephany's Cumy. It is not the name of a person in the Bible but rather a command in the Aramaic language: "arise!" Jesus said "cumi" to Jairus's daughter (Mark 5:22-24,35-43 and Matthew 9:25). Peter also said "cumi" to Tabitha (Acts 9:36-41). Tabitha is an Aramaic name which translates as Dorcas in Greek, as Luke the author of Acts said (translates as Gazelle in English). Thus Tabitha and Dorcas are considered the same name in genealogy. For example, a girl could be named Dorcas after a relative named Tabitha. --Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, Seattle -------------------------------- S. Rankin wrote: I have one relative who was named Martha Cumi Daniel, and in this case it was a given name, not a surname. -------------------------------- Stephany Berry asked: Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:19:50 -0800 (PST) From: idamc@seanet.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Vivian To: "'Transitional Genealogists forum'" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <49779.71.212.125.201.1355289590.squirrel@wm.seanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Patricia Hobbs wrote: "The grandson of her oldest child said that his grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a male child) because he was "full of life ----------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills replied: It might help someone to note here that Vivian was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne. ------------ Ida Skarson McCormick replies: Vivianus was a saint's name in ancient Roman times. The Normans brought it as a surname Vivian to England. It morphed into such surnames as Vidgeon, Fidgeon, Phythian, Fithian, Fithen, etc. Vivian became used as a male given name, then as a female given name. It's just another takeover like Shirley and Beverly. ------------------------------ End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 651 ***************************************************************