> The grandson of her oldest child said that his grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a male child) because he was "full of life It might help someone to note here that Vivian was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for daily tips on records and record usage: www.Facebook.com/EvidenceExplained