The secular name of the former Israeli President Chaim Herzog was Vivian. Israel Pickholtz Jerusalem On 12 Dec 2012 at 1:00, transitional-genealogists-forum- request@roTRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Is wrote: > Patricia Hobbs wrote: "The grandson of her oldest child said that his > grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a > male child) because he was "full of life ----------------- Elizabeth > Shown Mills replied: It might help someone to note here that Vivian > was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne.