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    1. [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in"
    2. Dave Robison
    3. Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before! I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth. Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth? It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents. And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred? The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison

    12/12/2012 09:00:00
    1. Re: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in"
    2. Mary Douglass
    3. Imho, use both, but differentiate which is which. It gives a more complete picture of the family at the time. Out here in the plains, even today, many rural doctors and hospitals don't provide obstetrical services, so women come into the larger towns and cities to deliver their babies. Same with deaths. My father-in-law died in Oklahoma City at the hospital where his heart operation took place, but he lived and was buried in Holdenville, OK, about 80 miles east of OKC.   Mary Clement Douglass Transcribing & publishing Kansas genealogical records Have lectures, Will travel! URL: www.historical-matters.com   "If you can’t get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you’d best teach it to dance." – George Bernard Shaw ________________________________ From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before!  I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth.  Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth?  It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents.  And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred?  The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2012 06:17:10
    1. Re: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in"
    2. Dave, I always list the physical location of the event.  If the birth or death was in a hospital, then I list the city or town the hospital was located in (or whatever facility the event happened in).   The person's residence can yield clues to school enumerations or records, tax records, land records, census records, etc.   But the birth or death location is where it occurred.   Cheryl Proctor Southern Indiana ________________________________ From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before!  I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth.  Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth?  It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents.  And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred?  The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2012 06:31:42
    1. Re: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in"
    2. Barbara Munson
    3. Dave, I list the birth and death with the actual town where the event took place.  I also include a separate entry with the same date as the birth and/or death, listed as RESIDENCE, and then list the home address with city & state.  That way I have all the information I actually need.  I know where to look for the birth or death certificate and where to look for employment, school, tax, or voting records. Barbara Munson ________________________________ From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before!  I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth.  Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth?  It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents.  And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred?  The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2012 06:57:52
    1. Re: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in"
    2. Kith-n-Kin
    3. Dave As the purpose of genealogy is to report the facts as accurately as possible, I vote for the actual place of birth, just as I would with a hospital death many miles from a person's residence (pretty common, I've found), or for that matter, a marriage "across the state line." For examples, my siblings and I were all born in a hospital in Medford, Oregon but lived, at the time, in a logging community (Kinzua) in eastern Oregon, while my grandparents lived near Jacksonville, just outside Medford. All the birth certificates say, "Medford." When asked, I say "Medford." My mother and father would travel across the state for the birth, then (after the requisite two weeks of in-hospital -- boy, were those the days -- travel back to eastern Oregon. A question I never thought to ask was if my father spent the entire time with us, or whether he brought mother, went back to work, and later came and got her. I suspect the latter. My grandparents, still living outside Jacksonville, Oregon, came to Flagstaff for the Christmas of 1959. Grandfather never made it home, dying in Flagstaff hospital. His death certificate reads Flagstaff, not Jacksonville. I would, however, put a note in the file "while on vacation to..." or words that effect, to prevent a future researcher from jumping to the wrong conclusion about where other records might be. Pat Dunford Tucson -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Robison Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:00 PM To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before! I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth. Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth? It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents. And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred? The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2012 07:20:25
    1. Re: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in"
    2. Dave, Depends on purpose and context. Where a person was born can be different from where the family's residence was in the days, weeks or months after a birth. The birth registration should be in the jurisdiction in which the event occurred (not necessarily the same jurisdiction where the family lived); Another researcher needs to know where the birth record can be found. If, on the other hand, you are writing a family history, you probably want readers to know where the child lived after leaving the hospital. So, both locations are important. Jay Fonkert -----Original Message----- From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM <TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 3:05 pm Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before! I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth. Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth? It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents. And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred? The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/12/2012 09:54:08