I recently reached out to a historical society in an area where I am working a project (area is just north of me). The local historian replied back and shared lots of great town history and had personally researched a family that had a connection to the one I am working on. After several pleasant emails, and a promise of information exchange on the family she had researched (I had uncovered a lot on that family in my work my project), the last email made mention of "payment" to her. I had not requested any document retrieval, nor any additional research on my project outside of the answers to my questions in the emails (ie: local history, railroad built there). However, even though no mention of cost/payment was made because there was nothing to have to pay for, the historical society person I have been emailing is now implying that I pay her? How would you best handle this situation? No new research was made on her end. She shared local town history that most societies would have given freely. She shared information on the family she had already personally researched, but not on my project specifically, except to confirm that my person had lived with that family. She had no other information on the individual I was researching. I was giving her credit in my report for the town history and on her existing research that she shared, but I was surprised by her assumption of payment when there had been no request for something that would have cost her additional money. If I should pay her, should I pay her for the research she's already done on her own and only shared with me via the email correspondence as well as the local history knowledge she shared? This was a bit unanticipated and I want to make sure I handle this correctly. Annette Graham Professional genealogist APG, BU 2014 Spring > On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:01 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries (Kizzie Newman) > 2. Genealogy scholarship recipients > (Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:43:58 -0500 > From: Kizzie Newman <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries > To: pgarratt <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Phyllis and Connie: > > My late sister left a very large collection of items such as those > referenced by Connie; commented on by Phyllis. > > Very close to Phyllis' group decision was ours as regards our sister's > long-term collections. > > Of interest to me, was the information provided by several libraries with > large genealogical collections, exception being the NSDAR, that space > considerations were the deciding factor as to accepting or declining such > offers. Furthermore, I was told, if I wished to transfer all to a CD/DVD, > that would have been acceptable. > > Kizzie > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM, pgarratt via < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Connie, we just went through this at our local Genealogical Society. We >> categorized them primarily into three groups: >> >> 1. Society newsletters (local meeting news, what has been added to the >> library, etc) - In nearly every case these were put into the recycle bin. >> We did keep a few current ones for our local region (several surrounding >> counties). >> >> 2. Society journals and magazines (articles on research techniques, >> published records, indexes, etc.) - We kept all for our local area. Most of >> those outside our local region (the rest of the state and the US) were >> offered to members for free, although very few members were interested in >> any of them. We tried to donate them to various libraries and no one wanted >> them. Some publications were kept if we felt they had unusual content or we >> had members who actually used them. Those making the decisions were >> genealogists familiar with online resources as well as local, state and >> national repositories for particular areas they knew well. >> >> 3. Published genealogies (such as the NGSQ) - we kept all of these. >> >> Our reason to purge was to make space for more useful items (currently in >> boxes) such as reference books, county histories, more computers, and the >> like. It was a controversial project but a necessary one. Many years of our >> own publication were scanned and are in the process of being uploaded to >> our website. >> >> As far as queries from old publications, I have never had any luck with >> these at all. Where I have had tremendous success is Rootsweb mail lists. >> Queries posted there have yielded the most amazing results. >> >> Phyllis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Connie Sheets via" [ [email protected] >> ]( mailto:[email protected] ) >> Subject: [TGF] Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries >> >> "...I am interested in hearing whether and how you have used queries from >> old genealogical publications such as newsletters, and if so whether you >> found them to be valuable?... >> On a wider but related note, should old society newsletters be archived or >> thrown in the trash?..." >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:10:02 -0600 (CST) > From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" > <[email protected]> > Subject: [TGF] Genealogy scholarship recipients > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Each year my company offers several scholarships to transitional genealogists. > The scholarships for 2015 have been posted at: > > http://www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/GivingBack.html > > best regards, > > Dee > > > -- > Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 > Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch > > Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 > Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 > www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist > > Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification > of Genealogists?, conferred to > associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with > peer-reviewed evaluations every > five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark > Office. > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 369 > ***************************************************************

If she didn't tell you she expected to be paid, up front, before she gave you any information, then no - she doesn't get paid. Claudia Breland Gig Harbor, WA

I would just ask her where had you been told that payment was expected. Places are usually careful to put something on their websites or tell you in an email before they provide the service that charges will be forthcoming. At least see what she says about how you were notified that you would be charged. Patti On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Annette graham via < [email protected]> wrote: > I recently reached out to a historical society in an area where I am > working a project (area is just north of me). The local historian replied > back and shared lots of great town history and had personally researched a > family that had a connection to the one I am working on. > > After several pleasant emails, and a promise of information exchange on > the family she had researched (I had uncovered a lot on that family in my > work my project), the last email made mention of "payment" to her. I had > not requested any document retrieval, nor any additional research on my > project outside of the answers to my questions in the emails (ie: local > history, railroad built there). However, even though no mention of > cost/payment was made because there was nothing to have to pay for, the > historical society person I have been emailing is now implying that I pay > her? > > How would you best handle this situation? No new research was made on her > end. She shared local town history that most societies would have given > freely. She shared information on the family she had already personally > researched, but not on my project specifically, except to confirm that my > person had lived with that family. She had no other information on the > individual I was researching. I was giving her credit in my report for the > town history and on her existing research that she shared, but I was > surprised by her assumption of payment when there had been no request for > something that would have cost her additional money. > > If I should pay her, should I pay her for the research she's already done > on her own and only shared with me via the email correspondence as well as > the local history knowledge she shared? > > This was a bit unanticipated and I want to make sure I handle this > correctly. > > Annette Graham > Professional genealogist > APG, BU 2014 Spring > > > On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:01 AM, > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries (Kizzie Newman) > > 2. Genealogy scholarship recipients > > (Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:43:58 -0500 > > From: Kizzie Newman <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TGF] Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries > > To: pgarratt <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]om> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Phyllis and Connie: > > > > My late sister left a very large collection of items such as those > > referenced by Connie; commented on by Phyllis. > > > > Very close to Phyllis' group decision was ours as regards our sister's > > long-term collections. > > > > Of interest to me, was the information provided by several libraries with > > large genealogical collections, exception being the NSDAR, that space > > considerations were the deciding factor as to accepting or declining such > > offers. Furthermore, I was told, if I wished to transfer all to a CD/DVD, > > that would have been acceptable. > > > > Kizzie > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM, pgarratt via < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Connie, we just went through this at our local Genealogical Society. We > >> categorized them primarily into three groups: > >> > >> 1. Society newsletters (local meeting news, what has been added to the > >> library, etc) - In nearly every case these were put into the recycle > bin. > >> We did keep a few current ones for our local region (several surrounding > >> counties). > >> > >> 2. Society journals and magazines (articles on research techniques, > >> published records, indexes, etc.) - We kept all for our local area. > Most of > >> those outside our local region (the rest of the state and the US) were > >> offered to members for free, although very few members were interested > in > >> any of them. We tried to donate them to various libraries and no one > wanted > >> them. Some publications were kept if we felt they had unusual content > or we > >> had members who actually used them. Those making the decisions were > >> genealogists familiar with online resources as well as local, state and > >> national repositories for particular areas they knew well. > >> > >> 3. Published genealogies (such as the NGSQ) - we kept all of these. > >> > >> Our reason to purge was to make space for more useful items (currently > in > >> boxes) such as reference books, county histories, more computers, and > the > >> like. It was a controversial project but a necessary one. Many years of > our > >> own publication were scanned and are in the process of being uploaded to > >> our website. > >> > >> As far as queries from old publications, I have never had any luck with > >> these at all. Where I have had tremendous success is Rootsweb mail > lists. > >> Queries posted there have yielded the most amazing results. > >> > >> Phyllis > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Connie Sheets via" [ > [email protected] > >> ]( mailto:[email protected] ) > >> Subject: [TGF] Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries > >> > >> "...I am interested in hearing whether and how you have used queries > from > >> old genealogical publications such as newsletters, and if so whether you > >> found them to be valuable?... > >> On a wider but related note, should old society newsletters be archived > or > >> thrown in the trash?..." > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:10:02 -0600 (CST) > > From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TGF] Genealogy scholarship recipients > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Each year my company offers several scholarships to transitional > genealogists. > > The scholarships for 2015 have been posted at: > > > > http://www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/GivingBack.html > > > > best regards, > > > > Dee > > > > > > -- > > Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 > > Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch > > > > Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 > > Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 > > www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist > > > > Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for > Certification > > of Genealogists?, conferred to > > associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in > accord with > > peer-reviewed evaluations every > > five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark > > Office. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 369 > > *************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Something similar happened twice to me. One person was asked one question via email. She then mailed me a ton of copies of stuff I hadn't asked for and didn't need. She included a comment that she had worked hard for me, so a "voluntary" payment to her [not the society] would be appreciated. Another person kept trying to sell me her book which had some minor info on my subject's family. When I requested only the obits listed on the society website index, she asked if I could pay her because she was just a volunteer. My response in the first case was that I had never received an offer to contract for any research on my behalf, that I did appreciate that she had wanted to work hard on my behalf, but that I had never requested any of the stuff she'd sent. Second one I called and spoke candidly to the society director, thought you might like to know.... That's like the charities that send you a "free gift" to guilt you into making a donation. d > On December 4, 2014 at 10:10 PM Annette graham via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I recently reached out to a historical society in an area where I am working a > project (area is just north of me). The local historian replied back and > shared lots of great town history and had personally researched a family that > had a connection to the one I am working on. > > After several pleasant emails, and a promise of information exchange on the > family she had researched (I had uncovered a lot on that family in my work my > project), the last email made mention of "payment" to her. I had not requested > any document retrieval, nor any additional research on my project outside of > the answers to my questions in the emails (ie: local history, railroad built > there). However, even though no mention of cost/payment was made because there > was nothing to have to pay for, the historical society person I have been > emailing is now implying that I pay her? > > How would you best handle this situation? No new research was made on her end. > She shared local town history that most societies would have given freely. She > shared information on the family she had already personally researched, but > not on my project specifically, except to confirm that my person had lived > with that family. She had no other information on the individual I was > researching. I was giving her credit in my report for the town history and on > her existing research that she shared, but I was surprised by her assumption > of payment when there had been no request for something that would have cost > her additional money. > > If I should pay her, should I pay her for the research she's already done on > her own and only shared with me via the email correspondence as well as the > local history knowledge she shared? > > This was a bit unanticipated and I want to make sure I handle this correctly. > > Annette Graham > Professional genealogist > APG, BU 2014 Spring > > > On Dec 4, 2014, at 2:01 AM, > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries (Kizzie Newman) > > 2. Genealogy scholarship recipients > > (Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:43:58 -0500 > > From: Kizzie Newman <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [TGF] Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries > > To: pgarratt <[email protected]>, > > [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]om> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Phyllis and Connie: > > > > My late sister left a very large collection of items such as those > > referenced by Connie; commented on by Phyllis. > > > > Very close to Phyllis' group decision was ours as regards our sister's > > long-term collections. > > > > Of interest to me, was the information provided by several libraries with > > large genealogical collections, exception being the NSDAR, that space > > considerations were the deciding factor as to accepting or declining such > > offers. Furthermore, I was told, if I wished to transfer all to a CD/DVD, > > that would have been acceptable. > > > > Kizzie > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM, pgarratt via < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Connie, we just went through this at our local Genealogical Society. We > >> categorized them primarily into three groups: > >> > >> 1. Society newsletters (local meeting news, what has been added to the > >> library, etc) - In nearly every case these were put into the recycle bin. > >> We did keep a few current ones for our local region (several surrounding > >> counties). > >> > >> 2. Society journals and magazines (articles on research techniques, > >> published records, indexes, etc.) - We kept all for our local area. Most of > >> those outside our local region (the rest of the state and the US) were > >> offered to members for free, although very few members were interested in > >> any of them. We tried to donate them to various libraries and no one wanted > >> them. Some publications were kept if we felt they had unusual content or we > >> had members who actually used them. Those making the decisions were > >> genealogists familiar with online resources as well as local, state and > >> national repositories for particular areas they knew well. > >> > >> 3. Published genealogies (such as the NGSQ) - we kept all of these. > >> > >> Our reason to purge was to make space for more useful items (currently in > >> boxes) such as reference books, county histories, more computers, and the > >> like. It was a controversial project but a necessary one. Many years of our > >> own publication were scanned and are in the process of being uploaded to > >> our website. > >> > >> As far as queries from old publications, I have never had any luck with > >> these at all. Where I have had tremendous success is Rootsweb mail lists. > >> Queries posted there have yielded the most amazing results. > >> > >> Phyllis > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Connie Sheets via" [ [email protected] > >> ]( mailto:[email protected] ) > >> Subject: [TGF] Old Genealogical Newsletters and Queries > >> > >> "...I am interested in hearing whether and how you have used queries from > >> old genealogical publications such as newsletters, and if so whether you > >> found them to be valuable?... > >> On a wider but related note, should old society newsletters be archived or > >> thrown in the trash?..." > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 09:10:02 -0600 (CST) > > From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" > > <[email protected]> > > Subject: [TGF] Genealogy scholarship recipients > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <1811897[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > Each year my company offers several scholarships to transitional > > genealogists. > > The scholarships for 2015 have been posted at: > > > > http://www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/GivingBack.html > > > > best regards, > > > > Dee > > > > > > -- > > Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 > > Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch > > > > Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 > > Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 > > www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist > > > > Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for > > Certification > > of Genealogists?, conferred to > > associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord > > with > > peer-reviewed evaluations every > > five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark > > Office. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 369 > > *************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.