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    1. Re: [TGF] Disseminating information online
    2. Patricia Hobbs via
    3. Harold, I am hopeful that mine won't be lost. I have one son who has already been instructed that he will be the one responsible for hosting my TNG database. And of course I will have him remove the private access if I haven't already by then. On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Harold Henderson via < [email protected]> wrote: > I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the way to preserve our work is > to write it up and publish it -- stories and reasoning that anyone can > enjoy, not databases. In this context I would think the best way to be > credited is the same: write it up and publish it. Every genealogy journal I > know of is anxious, if not desperate, for good material. > > If you keep it all private, thieves won't get at it, but when you're gone > nobody else will either. That strikes me as futile. The point is not to > possess the past. The point is for it to be remembered. > > Harold > > Harold Henderson, CG midwestroots.net > > *Finding Ancestors in Fort Wayne: The Genealogist's Unofficial One-Stop > Guide to the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center * > http://www.midwestroots.net/ > < > http://www.midwestroots.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ACPLGC-April-2013.pdf > > > > Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 > Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks > of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the > Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation > and used under license by the Board’s associates. > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mary Douglass via < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > As I have no one to carry on my research, I am posting my documents > online > > at Ancestry.com in a public tree. Cousins have been using my work, > without > > crediting the work to me for years. I don't like it, but I also don't > want > > my life's work to disappear. Just my two cents'. > > Mary Clement DouglassTranscribing & publishing Kansas genealogical > records > > "If you can’t get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you’d best teach it > > to dance." – George Bernard Shaw > > From: Elissa Scalise Powell via < > > [email protected]> > > To: 'TGF' <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 9:09 AM > > Subject: [TGF] Disseminating information online > > > > Yes, I understand that point also. Many genealogists don’t want their > work > > in original records “cherry picked” by others. I have had that believe > for > > years until very recently when I had two events happen almost the same > day. > > A cousin of some sort wrote to me. He had been present in 1992 at a > family > > reunion of one branch of our tree and had caught up with me again. He > said > > that he was entering the book I did for the reunion into FamilySearch and > > did I have any more. That of course miffed me a little. > > > > > > > > Second occurrence was when I Googled a couple of family names in > > combination and came up with an entry in WikiTree that pointed to its > > source of a 1908 printed family history book (also digitized and online). > > That one entry broke a 10 year old brick wall for me that no original > > records were yielding. > > > > > > > > So to give or not to give is the question. Whether it is nobler to keep > > the data to oneself and perfect it as many of us are wont to do, or to > > disseminate it for the world to do with what they will. That is the > > question. > > > > > > > > -- Elissa > > > > > > > > Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL > > > > www.PowellGenealogy.com <http://www.powellgenealogy.com/> > > > > www.GRIPitt.org <http://www.gripitt.org/> 28 June-3 July 2015 and 19-24 > > July 2015 in Pittsburgh, PA > > > > CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are > > service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under > > license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. The board name > is > > a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > > > > > > > > From: Patricia Hobbs [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 9:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [TGF] DNA research / Private site for tree sharing/ > > certification as sideline > > > > > > > > I understand her point of view though -- if we have discovered things in > > our research towards certification (which we likely will), we'd much > rather > > people not be disseminating it across the internet before we present it. > > > > > > > > Patti > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Elissa Scalise Powell via < > > [email protected] <mailto: > > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Cynthia, > > It is a common misperception that a published family tree will "mess up" > an > > application for certification because of the rule that any portfolio > > requirement cannot be reviewed or critiqued by someone else. What is > meant > > here is the actual portfolio requirement, not pieces of data that are > used > > for the case study or kinship determination project. BCG recognizes that > > our > > research is collaborative but that what you submit to BCG must be your > own > > analysis, conclusions, and writing. > > > > Hope that helps, > > Elissa > > > > Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL > > www.PowellGenealogy.com <http://www.PowellGenealogy.com> > > www.GRIPitt.org <http://www.GRIPitt.org> 28 June-3 July 2015 and 19-24 > > July 2015 in Pittsburgh, PA > > CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are > > service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under > > license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. The board name > is > > a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: On Behalf Of Cynthia Swope via > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:57 AM > > > > An ongoing concern is my desire to submit for certification (at some > > point--kind of a bucket list thing for years now). I don't want that > messed > > up in anyway. But more basely, I find all the for profit sites that > > generate > > income from work like all of ours not in alignment with my own personal > > impetus or comfort level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/01/2015 06:16:47
    1. Re: [TGF] Disseminating information online
    2. Melinda Henningfield via
    3. I am agreeing with Harold. I have spent countless hours (and money) re-discovering ancestors that had been forgotten. If I suddenly died, they would just remain forgotten. All my work would be for nothing. Writing up and publishing the "stories and reasoning that anyone can enjoy," (from Harold's email above), is the only way to keep those once forgotten ancestors remembered. I even extend this thought process to the much maligned Public Family Trees. My Public Family Tree is not as well sourced as my written work, but the framework is there. I want people to use my tree. I do not consider it "stealing" to use my public tree. Please use, copy, and borrow my public family tree. As I have delved more and more into genetic genealogy (DNA), I have come to value the Public Family Trees more and more. It is quite a disadvantage to run into matches that keep their trees private; both for the private tree owner and the public tree owner. Melinda Henningfield -- Melinda Henningfield, CG(SM) Ashland, Oregon *CG or Certified Genealogist are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.*

    05/01/2015 05:29:21