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    1. [TGF] DNA research / Private site for tree sharing/ certification as sideline
    2. Cynthia Swope via
    3. Recently I was gifted and so joined 23andMe (DNA assay). At the time I joined I provided a 'tree' from about four generations above me--that I purposefully made bare bones despite it being limited to the purveyor of the assay, sensitive to having felt 'robbed' in the past ( I think most of us might recount some similar lament) . Almost immediately after, I was advised by the company my tree was being transferred to Myheritage.com. It was seamless, basically, easy. But it was also not something I really wanted. In addition, to take advantage of that site in a real way, it's evident one must pay, despite 'publishing' a tree there (and those hard won 'trees' are really the reason consumers are interested in the product, albeit by offering a lot of bells and whistles to allow easy recognition by others interested in your work that it exists) . With that understanding gained in short order, I dismantled the tree the best I could (they don't make that easy). Now I am in search of a platform in which to place my research which is entirely invite only---I am uninterested in 'publishing' work without control of who and to what purpose it is used. Specifically I would like to be able to invite people not to the 'whole' thing, but to the portion/s that I suspect yielding our common ancestors. I wonder if the only way to do that is to make multiple trees. That seems cumbersome. I suppose though it might be an alternative---were I to find the platform I'm comfortable with utilizing. An ongoing concern is my desire to submit for certification (at some point--kind of a bucket list thing for years now). I don't want that messed up in anyway. But more basely, I find all the for profit sites that generate income from work like all of ours not in alignment with my own personal impetus or comfort level. At http://genealogy.about.com/od/publishing/tp/web_sites.htm there is a review of some websites. None of them appeal except perhaps TribalPages (http://www.tribalpages.com/about.html). Does anyone share this concern, or the experience of DNA driven genealogical study with its immediate need to see what others have researched that has any suggestions, alternatives, ideas for me and / or any specific comments about TribalPages? Or some other platform or suggestion which has not occurred to me? Thanks in advance, Cynthia

    04/30/2015 07:56:42
    1. Re: [TGF] DNA research / Private site for tree sharing/ certification as sideline
    2. Patricia Hobbs via
    3. Dear Cynthia, Yes, yes, and yes. All of your reasons are reasons why I have not wanted trees in places. I do have a tree on FamilyTree DNA. Although I am now certified, I still hope to write about some of my findings. I use The Next Generation: http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/ You do have to install it on server and so have to have webhosting which will cost you in annual charges. I have a public site which I don't update and a private site which I do. I usually direct DNA matches to my public tree, but occasionally give login information to the private site. Patti On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Cynthia Swope via < [email protected]> wrote: > Recently I was gifted and so joined 23andMe (DNA assay). At the time I > joined I provided a 'tree' from about four generations above me--that I > purposefully made bare bones despite it being limited to the purveyor of > the assay, sensitive to having felt 'robbed' in the past ( I think most > of us might recount some similar lament) . Almost immediately after, I > was advised by the company my tree was being transferred to > Myheritage.com. It was seamless, basically, easy. But it was also not > something I really wanted. In addition, to take advantage of that site > in a real way, it's evident one must pay, despite 'publishing' a tree > there (and those hard won 'trees' are really the reason consumers are > interested in the product, albeit by offering a lot of bells and > whistles to allow easy recognition by others interested in your work > that it exists) . With that understanding gained in short order, I > dismantled the tree the best I could (they don't make that easy). > > Now I am in search of a platform in which to place my research which is > entirely invite only---I am uninterested in 'publishing' work without > control of who and to what purpose it is used. Specifically I would like > to be able to invite people not to the 'whole' thing, but to the > portion/s that I suspect yielding our common ancestors. I wonder if the > only way to do that is to make multiple trees. That seems cumbersome. I > suppose though it might be an alternative---were I to find the platform > I'm comfortable with utilizing. > > An ongoing concern is my desire to submit for certification (at some > point--kind of a bucket list thing for years now). I don't want that > messed up in anyway. But more basely, I find all the for profit sites > that generate income from work like all of ours not in alignment with my > own personal impetus or comfort level. > > At http://genealogy.about.com/od/publishing/tp/web_sites.htm there is a > review of some websites. None of them appeal except perhaps TribalPages > (http://www.tribalpages.com/about.html). Does anyone share this concern, > or the experience of DNA driven genealogical study with its immediate > need to see what others have researched that has any suggestions, > alternatives, ideas for me and / or any specific comments about > TribalPages? Or some other platform or suggestion which has not occurred > to me? > > Thanks in advance, > Cynthia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/01/2015 01:49:19
    1. Re: [TGF] DNA research / Private site for tree sharing/ certificationas sideline
    2. Michael Hait via
    3. I would suggest using The Next Generation platform on a self-hosted website. You can password-protect the entire site, and invite users to specific lines of ascent or descent. You also wrote: "An ongoing concern is my desire to submit for certification (at some point--kind of a bucket list thing for years now). I don't want that messed up in anyway. But more basely, I find all the for profit sites that generate income from work like all of ours not in alignment with my own personal impetus or comfort level." Out of curiosity, what do you think would "mess up" your application for certification? I would be happy to help with any concerns you have. More information can also be found in the application guide and the judging rubrics, both available free on the BCG website. Michael Hait, CG(sm) [email protected] http://www.haitfamilyresearch.com Author of *Online State Resources for Genealogy* ebook More information at http://haitfamilyresearch.com/onlineStates.htm CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

    05/01/2015 02:16:26
    1. Re: [TGF] DNA research / Private site for tree sharing/ certification as sideline
    2. Elissa Scalise Powell via
    3. Cynthia, It is a common misperception that a published family tree will "mess up" an application for certification because of the rule that any portfolio requirement cannot be reviewed or critiqued by someone else. What is meant here is the actual portfolio requirement, not pieces of data that are used for the case study or kinship determination project. BCG recognizes that our research is collaborative but that what you submit to BCG must be your own analysis, conclusions, and writing. Hope that helps, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 28 June-3 July 2015 and 19-24 July 2015 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. The board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Cynthia Swope via Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:57 AM An ongoing concern is my desire to submit for certification (at some point--kind of a bucket list thing for years now). I don't want that messed up in anyway. But more basely, I find all the for profit sites that generate income from work like all of ours not in alignment with my own personal impetus or comfort level.

    05/01/2015 03:20:58
    1. [TGF] Thank you Re: DNA research / Private site for tree sharing/ certification as sideline
    2. Cynthia Swope via
    3. Thank you to all who responded to my questions, enlightened as to my concerns re: certification, pointed me in a good direction for the problem of mounting a tree relative to the DNA assay. I hope I have missed no one, as each response was invaluable. Cynthia On 5/1/15 1:56 AM, Cynthia Swope via wrote: > Recently I was gifted and so joined 23andMe (DNA assay). At the time I > joined I provided a 'tree' from about four generations above me--that I > purposefully made bare bones despite it being limited to the purveyor of > the assay, sensitive to having felt 'robbed' in the past ( I think most > of us might recount some similar lament) . Almost immediately after, I > was advised by the company my tree was being transferred to > Myheritage.com. It was seamless, basically, easy. But it was also not > something I really wanted. In addition, to take advantage of that site > in a real way, it's evident one must pay, despite 'publishing' a tree > there (and those hard won 'trees' are really the reason consumers are > interested in the product, albeit by offering a lot of bells and > whistles to allow easy recognition by others interested in your work > that it exists) . With that understanding gained in short order, I > dismantled the tree the best I could (they don't make that easy). > > Now I am in search of a platform in which to place my research which is > entirely invite only---I am uninterested in 'publishing' work without > control of who and to what purpose it is used. Specifically I would like > to be able to invite people not to the 'whole' thing, but to the > portion/s that I suspect yielding our common ancestors. I wonder if the > only way to do that is to make multiple trees. That seems cumbersome. I > suppose though it might be an alternative---were I to find the platform > I'm comfortable with utilizing. > > An ongoing concern is my desire to submit for certification (at some > point--kind of a bucket list thing for years now). I don't want that > messed up in anyway. But more basely, I find all the for profit sites > that generate income from work like all of ours not in alignment with my > own personal impetus or comfort level. > > At http://genealogy.about.com/od/publishing/tp/web_sites.htm there is a > review of some websites. None of them appeal except perhaps TribalPages > (http://www.tribalpages.com/about.html). Does anyone share this concern, > or the experience of DNA driven genealogical study with its immediate > need to see what others have researched that has any suggestions, > alternatives, ideas for me and / or any specific comments about > TribalPages? Or some other platform or suggestion which has not occurred > to me? > > Thanks in advance, > Cynthia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/02/2015 04:01:03