We've considered many nuances here, but the issue (IMO) boils down to this. If we ask someone to look for a newspaper item and (a) we don't have a citation, (b) the record puller images the obituary and does not image the paper's name and date, but (c) s/he cites it in a cover message--then our citation should note that the citation details were provided by the record puller. Under those conditions, we do not know that the citation is correct; we are copying someone else's assertion. If someone voluntarily sends us a newspaper item we didn't ask for, under the same conditions, the same approach supplies. If we already know the paper and the date and the record puller finds it exactly where we said to look, then citing the record puller is a courtesy that we might choose to cite in our records (perhaps, to retain the name of a reliable record-puller), but an editor would almost certainly excise it from a published citation. Elizabeth ---------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for daily tips on records and record usage: QuickTips at www.EvidenceExplained.com/blogs/ee