Thanks Sherry, I think that code is more in line with what we do than the service industry one. And thank you everyone who responded, one less thing to take time away from research and writing. Teresa S. Kahle The Intrepid Sleuth www.theintrepidsleuth.com “They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their destiny.” - Edward W. Spangler, 1896
If your language skills are good enough, you can consider taking genealogy translation clients - and joining the APG translators SIG! Bryna O'Sullivan Charter Oak Genealogy On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Rebecca Hockaday <rhocky@hotmail.com> wrote: > My name is Rebecca Hockaday and I am a transitional genealogist, taking > clients for about one year now. I currently live in Boise, ID and also have > an 8 and 6 year old. I am a little more than 2/3 of the way done with Pro > Gen and a member of the APG Virtual Chapter. I would like to do Gen Proof > and apply for BCG in the near future. > > I have some questions and would love to have some guidance. > > - My husband's career has made us internationally transient. In July 2017 > we are relocating for an expat assignment in Hiroshima, Chugoku Prefecture, > Japan for one to two years, coming back to Boise, ID 2018/9. Since I have > been married (2003) we have lived in Texas, NY (2 locations), France, > Germany, Italy, Spain, Yemen, currently in Idaho and now soon to be Japan. > What specialties do geographically unstable genealogists have and how do > you market to clients? > > - I am trying to figure out what I will be doing in Japan in terms of > genealogical research. I do not speak the language at all and have never > done any type of Asian research, which is a limiting factor. I can speak, > read and write Spanish, French, Italian, most German and can speak some > Arabic. But Japanese...can't even count to 10. What are recommendations for > projects to do while I am in Japan? I am not as worried about taking > clients (I can take a hiatus), but more worried about keeping my skill set > active with report writing and proof arguments. I am playing with the idea > of starting my BCG portfolio when I am there but am afraid of the > limitations I will encounter and not yet convinced I will be successful > putting together a portfolio in an international location. I can also > volunteer/take pro bono projects with something virtual - but what? > > - Does anyone have any connections in Japan? > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Teresa, Are you referring to the IRS Business/Professional Activity Code (based on NAICS) for Schedule C? I cannot point to any authority, but I use the following because it's the only one that fits. I am interested in what others have to say. Business activity type: Professional, Scientific, & Tech. - OtherBusiness activity code: 541990 - All other professional, scientific, and technical services Sherry Chapman 1 Stop Genealogy℠ www.1StopGenealogy.com 860-209-7070 In the News:Follow this link to read the Hartford Courant's feature article on 1 Stop Genealogy From: Teresa Kahle <teresa@theintrepidsleuth.com> To: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL" <Elissa@PowellGenealogy.com> Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Tax questions about the other side Hello Elissa and Dee, Thanks for the speedy responses. I included the amount of the client check that reimburses me for expenses as part of INCOME, so I need to deduct it somewhere. Thanks Dee for the pointer. My profits would barely buy us all lunch at Mickey D’s, but I am still thrilled about it. Can anyone take a stab at my other two questions? How do you deduct books? Computer software? (179 deductions? Depreciation?) And what professional code do you use? Teresa S. Kahle The Intrepid Sleuth www.theintrepidsleuth.com “They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their destiny.” - Edward W. Spangler, 1896 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My name is Rebecca Hockaday and I am a transitional genealogist, taking clients for about one year now. I currently live in Boise, ID and also have an 8 and 6 year old. I am a little more than 2/3 of the way done with Pro Gen and a member of the APG Virtual Chapter. I would like to do Gen Proof and apply for BCG in the near future. I have some questions and would love to have some guidance. - My husband's career has made us internationally transient. In July 2017 we are relocating for an expat assignment in Hiroshima, Chugoku Prefecture, Japan for one to two years, coming back to Boise, ID 2018/9. Since I have been married (2003) we have lived in Texas, NY (2 locations), France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Yemen, currently in Idaho and now soon to be Japan. What specialties do geographically unstable genealogists have and how do you market to clients? - I am trying to figure out what I will be doing in Japan in terms of genealogical research. I do not speak the language at all and have never done any type of Asian research, which is a limiting factor. I can speak, read and write Spanish, French, Italian, most German and can speak some Arabic. But Japanese...can't even count to 10. What are recommendations for projects to do while I am in Japan? I am not as worried about taking clients (I can take a hiatus), but more worried about keeping my skill set active with report writing and proof arguments. I am playing with the idea of starting my BCG portfolio when I am there but am afraid of the limitations I will encounter and not yet convinced I will be successful putting together a portfolio in an international location. I can also volunteer/take pro bono projects with something virtual - but what? - Does anyone have any connections in Japan? Thanks!
Rebecca, I think it is a great idea to look for how to keep up your skills while in Japan. You could take your own family research and write it up ala BCG requirements 6 and 7. This would give you practice in those elements (case study and 3-generation kinship determination) as well as give you somewhat of finished product that you can share with family, etc. One piece of advice for the portfolio is never submit the first of anything you have done. So take advantage of this time to hone your writing skills. As for non-geographic based specialties, there are things like taking someone's research and writing the book for them or other services that speak to your talents. Best wishes, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 25-30 June 2017 and 16-21 July 2017 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. Certified Genealogist and the board name are trademarks registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Rebecca Hockaday Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 1:28 PM My name is Rebecca Hockaday and I am a transitional genealogist, taking clients for about one year now. I currently live in Boise, ID and also have an 8 and 6 year old. I am a little more than 2/3 of the way done with Pro Gen and a member of the APG Virtual Chapter. I would like to do Gen Proof and apply for BCG in the near future. I have some questions and would love to have some guidance. - My husband's career has made us internationally transient. In July 2017 we are relocating for an expat assignment in Hiroshima, Chugoku Prefecture, Japan for one to two years, coming back to Boise, ID 2018/9. Since I have been married (2003) we have lived in Texas, NY (2 locations), France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Yemen, currently in Idaho and now soon to be Japan. What specialties do geographically unstable genealogists have and how do you market to clients? - I am trying to figure out what I will be doing in Japan in terms of genealogical research. I do not speak the language at all and have never done any type of Asian research, which is a limiting factor. I can speak, read and write Spanish, French, Italian, most German and can speak some Arabic. But Japanese...can't even count to 10. What are recommendations for projects to do while I am in Japan? I am not as worried about taking clients (I can take a hiatus), but more worried about keeping my skill set active with report writing and proof arguments. I am playing with the idea of starting my BCG portfolio when I am there but am afraid of the limitations I will encounter and not yet convinced I will be successful putting together a portfolio in an international location. I can also volunteer/take pro bono projects with something virtual - but what? - Does anyone have any connections in Japan? Thanks! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research has openings in the course “Genealogy as a Profession.” The aspiring or practicing professional genealogist will benefit from practical knowledge of three components that make for a successful career: management and growth of the business, client communications, and professional opportunities. Students will also be introduced to various genealogy specialties from experts in those fields and provided hands-on activities and products to take home and use in their business. This course, offered every two years, is presented by Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL and co-taught by Carla Cegielski; Melanie D. Holtz, CG; Thomas W. Jones, PhD, CG, CGL, FASG, FNGS, FUGA; Kelvin L. Meyers, Benjamin B. Spratling, JD; and Karen Stanbary, CG. After 50 plus years at Samford University in Birmingham, AL, the Institute will take place 23-28 July in a brand-new location – the University of Georgia Center for Continuing Education and Hotel in Athens, GA. Classrooms, food, and accommodations are all under one roof. Students will also have full access to the University of Georgia’s outstanding libraries – the Main Library with its worldwide collection of historical and genealogical material, maps and government documents; Alexander Campbell King Law Library; and the Richard B. Russell Special Collections – including the Hargrett Rare Book and Manuscript Library. For more information and to register, please visit the IGHR website at: http://ighr.gagensociety.org/ Melissa Mitchell IGHR Communications IGHRcomm@gmail.com
I said I wasn't versed in accounting. <G> Think I will stick to genealogy and let my accountant handle the rest! Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 25-30 June 2017 and 16-21 July 2017 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. Certified Genealogist and the board name are trademarks registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 3:07 PM My accountant says we show both the income and the expense, even if they negate one another. Books are deducted as educational and software the accountant does his thing to write off full amount for the year. I think IRS is more reasonable now on writing off smaller expenses.
Attendees from all over the United States and several countries come to the Genealogical Research Institute of Pittsburgh (GRIP) for in-depth, hands-on week-long courses. Registration will open on Wednesday, March 8 at noon Eastern (9 a.m. Pacific) for the six courses being offered July 16-21, 2017 on the beautiful campus of La Roche College in the northern suburbs of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. See detailed course descriptions of the 18 sessions in each course at www.GRIPitt.org/courses <http://www.GRIPitt.org/courses> <http://www.GRIPitt.org/courses> including DNA, Advanced DNA, Irish, Law School, Intermediate, and Research in New Jersey . Also a blog post for each course can be found on the sidebar under the "In Their Words" titles. Registration is already open for the six courses offered June 25-30, 2017. Two have waiting lists but don't be afraid to get on them as cancellations do happen. The June courses are also described on the website and include Eastern European Research, Writing, Researching Washington, DC virtually, and States in the Old Northwest Territory. Registration tips and tricks can be viewed at http://www.gripitt.org/tips-and-tricks-for-getting-the-course-you-want/. Don't know what others think about GRIP? Check out the short videos and blogs at http://www.gripitt.org/reviews/. See you this summer! Elissa Powell and Debbie Deal Co-Directors, GRIP Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL <http://www.powellgenealogy.com/> www.PowellGenealogy.com <http://www.gripitt.org/> www.GRIPitt.org 25-30 June 2017 and 16-21 July 2017 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. Certified Genealogist and the board name are trademarks registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office.
These two links for NAICS codes for genealogical services: http://siccode.com/en/naicscodes/812990/all-other-personal-services-1 http://siccode.com/en/siccodes/7299/miscellaneous-personal-services-not-elsewhere-classified My accountant says we show both the income and the expense, even if they negate one another. Books are deducted as educational and software the accountant does his thing to write off full amount for the year. I think IRS is more reasonable now on writing off smaller expenses. d > On March 6, 2017 at 1:36 PM Teresa Kahle <teresa@theintrepidsleuth.com> wrote: > > > Hello Elissa and Dee, > > Thanks for the speedy responses. I included the amount of the client check > that reimburses me for expenses as part of INCOME, so I need to deduct it > somewhere. Thanks Dee for the pointer. > > My profits would barely buy us all lunch at Mickey D’s, but I am still > thrilled about it. > > Can anyone take a stab at my other two questions? How do you deduct books? > Computer software? (179 deductions? Depreciation?) > And what professional code do you use? > > > Teresa S. Kahle > The Intrepid Sleuth > www.theintrepidsleuth.com > > “They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their > destiny.” - Edward W. Spangler, 1896 > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Forensic Genealogy Services LLC and Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty, POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist CG is a service mark and Certified Genealogist is a registered certification mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluations, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
Teresa, I am not as versed in accounting as you. However it does strike me that whenever you buy a document, DNA testing, or anything on behalf of the client, wouldn't you bill that client for the same and it is a wash? Congrats on making a profit for your time. My husband always said that if I was ahead of the local hourly wage for McDonald's then I was ahead! -- Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 25-30 June 2017 and 16-21 July 2017 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. Certified Genealogist and the board name are trademarks registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Teresa Kahle Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 12:08 PM 4. Where do you include the cost of obtaining certified records or DAR record copies or the cost of DNA testing you paid for on behalf of the client? Thank you for any advice you can give, Teresa S. Kahle ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Rebecca, Feel free to contact me privately at LindaHOkazaki@gmail.com. I specialize in Japanese American research and frequently assist clients to obtain records in Japan. I would be happy to correspond with you and give you suggestions for projects while you are in Chugoku. Sincerely, Linda Harms Okazaki -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-request <transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 10:28 am Subject: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 11, Issue 34 Send TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM mailing list submissions to transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/transitional-genealogists-forum or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at transitional-genealogists-forum-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: for those interested in writing (JDBEsq@aol.com) 2. Tax questions about the other side (Teresa Kahle) 3. Introduction and questions (Rebecca Hockaday) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 09:34:05 -0500 From: JDBEsq@aol.com To: bitbucket001@comcast.net, transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] for those interested in writing Message-ID: <c5465f.39585ea8.45eecd5c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The most terrifying thing in the world is a clean piece of white paper! Doug In a message dated 3/5/2017 11:34:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bitbucket001@comcast.net writes: Interesting, indeed. Writing isn't some ethereal artsy practice. Writing is messy. Writing is disorganized. Writing is unpredictable ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:08:14 -0700 From: Teresa Kahle <teresa@theintrepidsleuth.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] Tax questions about the other side Message-ID: <D108CF0F-2C99-45AC-89A0-0CB3FEDAF52F@theintrepidsleuth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello to all, Last year I transitioned to taking clients and now I am trying to get my taxes done. I have a few questions specific to our profession. (Preliminary data show I made a profit!) I am a single owner LLC, have no employees, office at home, nothing fancy going on. I used to work for H&R Block many, many years ago so know the basics and I?ve read all the relevant IRS Publications, but am nervous this being my first time to file for this business. 1. What Professional Activity Code do you use? 2. How do you deduct books? I?ve bought a ton of books this year. Some I am deducting as ?Business start-up costs? but am not sure if the others are business deductions, 179 deductions, or if I need to depreciate them. The question seems to be is the book?s usefulness greater or less than one year? Do any of you go the depreciation route? 3. How do you deduct computer software? It appears to be a 179 deduction? 4. Where do you include the cost of obtaining certified records or DAR record copies or the cost of DNA testing you paid for on behalf of the client? Thank you for any advice you can give, Teresa S. Kahle The Intrepid Sleuth www.theintrepidsleuth.com ?They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their destiny.? - Edward W. Spangler, 1896 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 18:27:39 +0000 From: Rebecca Hockaday <rhocky@hotmail.com> To: "transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TGF] Introduction and questions Message-ID: <MWHPR2001MB10565D7A4407FD76402EBF51CB2C0@MWHPR2001MB1056.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My name is Rebecca Hockaday and I am a transitional genealogist, taking clients for about one year now. I currently live in Boise, ID and also have an 8 and 6 year old. I am a little more than 2/3 of the way done with Pro Gen and a member of the APG Virtual Chapter. I would like to do Gen Proof and apply for BCG in the near future. I have some questions and would love to have some guidance. - My husband's career has made us internationally transient. In July 2017 we are relocating for an expat assignment in Hiroshima, Chugoku Prefecture, Japan for one to two years, coming back to Boise, ID 2018/9. Since I have been married (2003) we have lived in Texas, NY (2 locations), France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Yemen, currently in Idaho and now soon to be Japan. What specialties do geographically unstable genealogists have and how do you market to clients? - I am trying to figure out what I will be doing in Japan in terms of genealogical research. I do not speak the language at all and have never done any type of Asian research, which is a limiting factor. I can speak, read and write Spanish, French, Italian, most German and can speak some Arabic. But Japanese...can't even count to 10. What are recommendations for projects to do while I am in Japan? I am not as worried about taking clients (I can take a hiatus), but more worried about keeping my skill set active with report writing and proof arguments. I am playing with the idea of starting my BCG portfolio when I am there but am afraid of the limitations I will encounter and not yet convinced I will be successful putting together a portfolio in an international location. I can also volunteer/take pro bono projects with something virtual - but what? - Does anyone have any connections in Japan? Thanks! ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer ------------------------------ End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 11, Issue 34 ***************************************************************
My record keeping system labels records as "client research documents" under expenses. They are then charged out to the customer in a dollar-for-dollar reimbursement. Dee > 4. Where do you include the cost of obtaining certified records or DAR record > copies or the cost of DNA testing you paid for on behalf of the client? > > Thank you for any advice you can give, > Teresa S. Kahle ---- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Forensic Genealogy Services LLC and Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty, POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist CG is a service mark and Certified Genealogist is a registered certification mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluations, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
Hello Elissa and Dee, Thanks for the speedy responses. I included the amount of the client check that reimburses me for expenses as part of INCOME, so I need to deduct it somewhere. Thanks Dee for the pointer. My profits would barely buy us all lunch at Mickey D’s, but I am still thrilled about it. Can anyone take a stab at my other two questions? How do you deduct books? Computer software? (179 deductions? Depreciation?) And what professional code do you use? Teresa S. Kahle The Intrepid Sleuth www.theintrepidsleuth.com “They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their destiny.” - Edward W. Spangler, 1896
Hi Teresa, I'm not in my office right now but will check my tax return for the how it was done by my CPA the first year I started. I had start-up costs and believe they were handled a little differently. I'll also check my professional code and let you know what I use. Using an Enrolled Agent or CPA when starting out and then doing it yourself from there on is one way to have these questions answered for your particular situation, but I definitely understand wanting to save money when starting out. Disclaimer: I used to prepare tax returns for a living, but haven't in a few years, so I am not giving tax advice, but here's how my CPA does it on my particular return for my situation: For things like DNA test kits, document related fees (like BMD certificates), and books, all go on Schedule C in Part V "Other Expenses". They get typed in. For example Document Fees, Reference Materials, and Test Kits are three of the categories I use. If you have other categories not specifically listed in Schedule C Part II, then you can add them to Part V on the Schedule C. I've never heard of books being depreciated, except maybe in terms of start-up cost where those expenses get amortized. The IRA website has a section on start-up costs here: [ https://www.irs.gov/publications/p535/ch07.html ]( https://www.irs.gov/publications/p535/ch07.html ) Tax rules seem to change every year, especially when it comes to 179 deductions. I would think you would NOT want to take a 179 deduction, but rather depreciate the equipment and software so that you can take the expense against future income. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: "Teresa Kahle" <teresa@theintrepidsleuth.com> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 11:36am To: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL" <Elissa@PowellGenealogy.com> Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Tax questions about the other side Hello Elissa and Dee, Thanks for the speedy responses. I included the amount of the client check that reimburses me for expenses as part of INCOME, so I need to deduct it somewhere. Thanks Dee for the pointer. My profits would barely buy us all lunch at Mickey D’s, but I am still thrilled about it. Can anyone take a stab at my other two questions? How do you deduct books? Computer software? (179 deductions? Depreciation?) And what professional code do you use? Teresa S. Kahle The Intrepid Sleuth www.theintrepidsleuth.com “They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their destiny.” - Edward W. Spangler, 1896 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello to all, Last year I transitioned to taking clients and now I am trying to get my taxes done. I have a few questions specific to our profession. (Preliminary data show I made a profit!) I am a single owner LLC, have no employees, office at home, nothing fancy going on. I used to work for H&R Block many, many years ago so know the basics and I’ve read all the relevant IRS Publications, but am nervous this being my first time to file for this business. 1. What Professional Activity Code do you use? 2. How do you deduct books? I’ve bought a ton of books this year. Some I am deducting as “Business start-up costs” but am not sure if the others are business deductions, 179 deductions, or if I need to depreciate them. The question seems to be is the book’s usefulness greater or less than one year? Do any of you go the depreciation route? 3. How do you deduct computer software? It appears to be a 179 deduction? 4. Where do you include the cost of obtaining certified records or DAR record copies or the cost of DNA testing you paid for on behalf of the client? Thank you for any advice you can give, Teresa S. Kahle The Intrepid Sleuth www.theintrepidsleuth.com “They who are indifferent as to their origin will likely be careless of their destiny.” - Edward W. Spangler, 1896
The most terrifying thing in the world is a clean piece of white paper! Doug In a message dated 3/5/2017 11:34:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bitbucket001@comcast.net writes: Interesting, indeed. Writing isn't some ethereal artsy practice. Writing is messy. Writing is disorganized. Writing is unpredictable
Thanks Harold! I am signed up for your GRIP class in June. Very glad. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> On Mar 5, 2017, at 4:41 PM, transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM mailing list submissions to transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com<mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/transitional-genealogists-forum or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at transitional-genealogists-forum-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM digest..." Today's Topics: 1. for those interested in writing (Harold Henderson) 2. Re: for those interested in writing (Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG) 3. Re: for those interested in writing (Dianne Holley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 07:24:19 -0600 From: Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> To: Transitional Genealogists <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TGF] for those interested in writing Message-ID: <CABPpKTge_zxmkdcJr6OVy_Z7j666SwosBoq3Thh=m6P-hhNQ-Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/04/what-writers-really-do-when-they-write This is by a fiction writer about his kind of writing but I found plenty of interesting nuggets, especially in the first part. From one of my favorite aggregator websites, Three Quarks Daily. Harold Harold Henderson, Certified Genealogist ? midwestroots.net Genealogical writing and editing Current research: Boren 1750-1840 PA, Flint/Gedney 1800-1950 IL/MO, Thrall 1792-1934 VT/OH/IL ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 13:49:49 -0500 From: "Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG" <sully1@carolina.rr.com> To: Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com>, Transitional Genealogists <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TGF] for those interested in writing Message-ID: <180d28dd-d28c-605b-279b-2c833760d6f8@carolina.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed This site is fascinating. Thanks for sharing! Kathy On 3/5/2017 8:24 AM, Harold Henderson wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/04/what-writers-really-do-when-they-write This is by a fiction writer about his kind of writing but I found plenty of interesting nuggets, especially in the first part. From one of my favorite aggregator websites, Three Quarks Daily. Harold Harold Henderson, Certified Genealogist ? midwestroots.net Genealogical writing and editing Current research: Boren 1750-1840 PA, Flint/Gedney 1800-1950 IL/MO, Thrall 1792-1934 VT/OH/IL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 15:41:34 -0600 From: Dianne Holley <Dianne@HolleyArt.com> To: "'Harold Henderson'" <librarytraveler@gmail.com>, "'Transitional Genealogists'" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TGF] for those interested in writing Message-ID: <002601d295f9$43237c00$c96a7400$@HolleyArt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Wow! - just Wow! I can't devour this fast enough and can't wait for a second, third.....reading! Thanks VERY much for sharing, Harold! Dianne Holley dianne@cmemories.us Austin, Texas -----Original Message----- From: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Harold Henderson Sent: March 5, 2017 07:24 To: Transitional Genealogists <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TGF] for those interested in writing https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/04/what-writers-really-do-when-they-write This is by a fiction writer about his kind of writing but I found plenty of interesting nuggets, especially in the first part. From one of my favorite aggregator websites, Three Quarks Daily. Harold Harold Henderson, Certified Genealogist ? midwestroots.net Genealogical writing and editing Current research: Boren 1750-1840 PA, Flint/Gedney 1800-1950 IL/MO, Thrall 1792-1934 VT/OH/IL ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer ------------------------------ End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 11, Issue 30 ***************************************************************
Interesting, indeed. Writing isn't some ethereal artsy practice. Writing is messy. Writing is disorganized. Writing is unpredictable. Those are some of the things that cause me to enjoy doing it! Thank you, Harold. Karen Packard Rhodes Middleburg, Clay County, Florida On 3/5/2017 8:24 AM, Harold Henderson wrote: > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/04/what-writers-really-do-when-they-write > > This is by a fiction writer about his kind of writing but I found plenty of > interesting nuggets, especially in the first part. From one of my favorite > aggregator websites, Three Quarks Daily. > > Harold >
Harold, I’m betting you do both well. Janis > On Mar 5, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> wrote: > > LOL, Janis, that's one reason I'm trying to phase out of speaking . . . > > Harold Henderson, Certified Genealogist ® midwestroots.net > Genealogical writing and editing > Current research: Boren 1750-1840 PA, > Flint/Gedney 1800-1950 IL/MO, Thrall 1792-1934 VT/OH/IL > > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Janis L Gilmore <janis.gilmore@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Harold, >> >> Thanks for posting this piece. >> >> Among my favorites: "We often discuss art this way: the artist had >> something he 'wanted to express,' and then he just, you know … expressed >> it.” I also loved the Einstein quote, "No worthy problem is ever solved in >> the plane of its original conception.” And the political commentary >> commentary. (Intentional repetition.) >> >> Oh. And I would much rather NOT think of myself as preferring writing to >> speaking because when I write I appear as “less of a dope than usual.” The >> truth hurts. : ) >> >> Janis Walker Gilmore >> Pawleys Island, SC, & Seattle, WA (but back in SC, so might drop that >> “Seattle” part for a while!) >> >> >> >>> On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/04/what- >> writers-really-do-when-they-write >>> >>> This is by a fiction writer about his kind of writing but I found plenty >> of >>> interesting nuggets, especially in the first part. From one of my >> favorite >>> aggregator websites, Three Quarks Daily. >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> >>> Harold Henderson, Certified Genealogist ® midwestroots.net >>> Genealogical writing and editing >>> Current research: Boren 1750-1840 PA, >>> Flint/Gedney 1800-1950 IL/MO, Thrall 1792-1934 VT/OH/IL >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Harold, Thanks for posting this piece. Among my favorites: "We often discuss art this way: the artist had something he 'wanted to express,' and then he just, you know … expressed it.” I also loved the Einstein quote, "No worthy problem is ever solved in the plane of its original conception.” And the political commentary commentary. (Intentional repetition.) Oh. And I would much rather NOT think of myself as preferring writing to speaking because when I write I appear as “less of a dope than usual.” The truth hurts. : ) Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC, & Seattle, WA (but back in SC, so might drop that “Seattle” part for a while!) > On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> wrote: > > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/04/what-writers-really-do-when-they-write > > This is by a fiction writer about his kind of writing but I found plenty of > interesting nuggets, especially in the first part. From one of my favorite > aggregator websites, Three Quarks Daily. > > Harold > > > Harold Henderson, Certified Genealogist ® midwestroots.net > Genealogical writing and editing > Current research: Boren 1750-1840 PA, > Flint/Gedney 1800-1950 IL/MO, Thrall 1792-1934 VT/OH/IL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message