-----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Denise Cross Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:30 AM Did this law evolve from the practice of warnings out? I've seen interesting patterns of registrations in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries where a family that moved between locations would reregister births in the new town. I've also seen a family move out of and back into a town that registered only the children born while resident and had a gap in the middle for children born while living elsewhere. Each town must have decided on its level of interest in supporting said children should the family become unable to do so. -Denise On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Barbara Mathews < barbara@demandinggenealogist.com> wrote: > As Judy Russell states in almost all her speeches, "You have to know > the laws of the place and time." > > For Massachusetts, I googled "Massachusetts General Law out-of-state births" This is a great demonstration on how understanding the history of laws helps us to understand our ancestors who had to operate under them (or not!). How old did someone have to be to inherit, or to marry, or to be a witness? The answer can help you determine if this Silas Harnden was your Silas Harnden or another same-named individual. Understanding the laws also gives us backgrounds. "Grandpa and Grandma had to elope because they were not 21 yet and their parents would not consent to the marriage. So they went to a different state (or county) where they were not known and lied about their ages." Now isn't that an interesting detail gleaned from the laws at the time and explains discrepancies in birth years if someone only took the marriage application as gospel? Or this one: "Mary's application for marriage was just 3 days after she asked for John to be her guardian. At age 20 and a half she still needed permission to marry from a parent or guardian, so she had asked the court to appoint her fiancé as her guardian." If you want to know more about how to find laws, how they affected our ancestors and learn from the top "Legal Genealogist" in our field, you may want to consider the Genealogical Research Institute of Pittsburgh's course with Judy G. Russell, J.D., CG, CGL. Held July 16-21, 2017, at La Roche College in Pittsburgh, PA, there are still seats available in the course. A detailed schedule including a paragraph on each of the 18 sessions in the course can be found at http://www.gripitt.org/courses/law-school-for-genealogists/ Here is a synopsis: Monday 8:30: Freshman Orientation (Russell) 10:15: Courts 101: Federal Courts and their Records (Russell) 1:00: Courts 102: State Courts and their Records (Russell) 2:45: Legal Research 101: Century of Lawmaking (legislative process through the resources of the LOC) (R. Sayre) Tuesday 8:30: Legal Research 102: The Serial Set, American State Papers, and Territorial Papers (R. Sayre) 10:15: Legal Research 103: The Serial Set et al Illustrated (case studies and usage concepts) (R. Sayre) 1:00: Estate Law 101: Wills, Intestacy and Probate (Russell) 2:45: Estate Law 102: Dower, Curtesy and Guardianships (Russell) Wednesday 8:30: Immigration Law 101: Immigration laws generally (Smith) 10:15: Immigration Law 102: Naturalization laws generally (Smith) 1:00: Property 101: Federal Land Law The Public Domain (R. Sayre) 2:45: Property 102: State Land Law Deeds, Mortgages and More (Russell) Thursday 8:30: Military Law 101: Military Pension Laws (R. Sayre) 10:15: Legal Research 104: The Claims Committees of the Congress and the U.S. Court of Private Land Claims (R. Sayre) 1:00: Family Law 101: The Law of Marriage and Divorce (Russell) 2:45: Family Law 102: The Law of Women and Children (Russell) Friday 8:30: Legal Research 105: Federal Prisons and Investigation (R. Sayre) 10:15: Evidence 101: Using the Law to Prove a Case (case studies) (R. Sayre & Russell) 11:30 AM: Certificates and farewell before lunch Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 25-30 June 2017 and 16-21 July 2017 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. Certified Genealogist and the board name are trademarks registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office.
I dont know the why but I know when I moved to Massachusetts in the 80s the town we lived in at the time registered my son's birth from the US Army hospital in Germany and his brother that was ultimately born in a different town I'm Massachusettes. The clerk told me it was for convenience and they could issue a certified copy from filling it with them if we ever needed it in the future. They even took a copy of my military discharge. On Mar 21, 2017 9:30 AM, "Denise Cross" <crossd4@gmail.com> wrote: Did this law evolve from the practice of warnings out? I've seen interesting patterns of registrations in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries where a family that moved between locations would reregister births in the new town. I've also seen a family move out of and back into a town that registered only the children born while resident and had a gap in the middle for children born while living elsewhere. Each town must have decided on its level of interest in supporting said children should the family become unable to do so. -Denise On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Barbara Mathews < barbara@demandinggenealogist.com> wrote: > As Judy Russell states in almost all her speeches, "You have to know the > laws of the place and time." > > For Massachusetts, I googled "Massachusetts General Law out-of-state > births" > and immediately found a reference to the law. There was the answer in > chapter 46, section 1B. IT seems to be related to having a birth registered > at the residence of the mother or father. Even today, clerks in towns in > which there are birthing centers forward birth records to clerks in towns > in > which the parents reside. A friend who was an assistant town clerk for > Burlington had just this task because her town housed Lahey Hospital. > > M.G.L., Chapter 46, Section 1B. Any resident of the commonwealth who is the > parent of a child born outside the commonwealth may personally present to > the town clerk of the town where such parent was domiciled at the time of > such birth, or in the case of an adopted child, at the time of such > adoption, an original certificate or other written evidence of the birth, > and a certified copy of the adoption decree if adopted, or a duly > authenticated photostatic copy thereof. The town clerk may file such > documents as evidence establishing such birth or adoption, or may make a > copy thereof, which he shall attest as a true copy, and which he may then > file as such evidence. > > If such evidence is not, in the opinion of the town clerk, sufficient to > establish such birth or adoption, and he refuses to file the same, a judge > of probate in the county where such town lies may, on petition and after a > hearing at which the clerk shall have an opportunity to be heard, order him > to receive such certificate, written evidence or photostatic copy as > sufficient evidence to establish such birth or adoption, whereupon such > clerk shall file the same. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -Denise ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Did this law evolve from the practice of warnings out? I've seen interesting patterns of registrations in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries where a family that moved between locations would reregister births in the new town. I've also seen a family move out of and back into a town that registered only the children born while resident and had a gap in the middle for children born while living elsewhere. Each town must have decided on its level of interest in supporting said children should the family become unable to do so. -Denise On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Barbara Mathews < barbara@demandinggenealogist.com> wrote: > As Judy Russell states in almost all her speeches, "You have to know the > laws of the place and time." > > For Massachusetts, I googled "Massachusetts General Law out-of-state > births" > and immediately found a reference to the law. There was the answer in > chapter 46, section 1B. IT seems to be related to having a birth registered > at the residence of the mother or father. Even today, clerks in towns in > which there are birthing centers forward birth records to clerks in towns > in > which the parents reside. A friend who was an assistant town clerk for > Burlington had just this task because her town housed Lahey Hospital. > > M.G.L., Chapter 46, Section 1B. Any resident of the commonwealth who is the > parent of a child born outside the commonwealth may personally present to > the town clerk of the town where such parent was domiciled at the time of > such birth, or in the case of an adopted child, at the time of such > adoption, an original certificate or other written evidence of the birth, > and a certified copy of the adoption decree if adopted, or a duly > authenticated photostatic copy thereof. The town clerk may file such > documents as evidence establishing such birth or adoption, or may make a > copy thereof, which he shall attest as a true copy, and which he may then > file as such evidence. > > If such evidence is not, in the opinion of the town clerk, sufficient to > establish such birth or adoption, and he refuses to file the same, a judge > of probate in the county where such town lies may, on petition and after a > hearing at which the clerk shall have an opportunity to be heard, order him > to receive such certificate, written evidence or photostatic copy as > sufficient evidence to establish such birth or adoption, whereupon such > clerk shall file the same. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -Denise
As Judy Russell states in almost all her speeches, "You have to know the laws of the place and time." For Massachusetts, I googled "Massachusetts General Law out-of-state births" and immediately found a reference to the law. There was the answer in chapter 46, section 1B. IT seems to be related to having a birth registered at the residence of the mother or father. Even today, clerks in towns in which there are birthing centers forward birth records to clerks in towns in which the parents reside. A friend who was an assistant town clerk for Burlington had just this task because her town housed Lahey Hospital. M.G.L., Chapter 46, Section 1B. Any resident of the commonwealth who is the parent of a child born outside the commonwealth may personally present to the town clerk of the town where such parent was domiciled at the time of such birth, or in the case of an adopted child, at the time of such adoption, an original certificate or other written evidence of the birth, and a certified copy of the adoption decree if adopted, or a duly authenticated photostatic copy thereof. The town clerk may file such documents as evidence establishing such birth or adoption, or may make a copy thereof, which he shall attest as a true copy, and which he may then file as such evidence. If such evidence is not, in the opinion of the town clerk, sufficient to establish such birth or adoption, and he refuses to file the same, a judge of probate in the county where such town lies may, on petition and after a hearing at which the clerk shall have an opportunity to be heard, order him to receive such certificate, written evidence or photostatic copy as sufficient evidence to establish such birth or adoption, whereupon such clerk shall file the same.
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, "M. A. Beldin" <mabeldin@gmail.com> wrote: I remember reading something about having to register a marriage but can no > longer find the source or reason. My great grandparents were from > Pittsfield, but apparently eloped and married in New Lebanon, NY, but then > registered in Pittsfield when they returned to live there. > I haven't tracked down the statutes yet, but one of the joys and pitfalls of research in Massachusetts is that the marriages can be registered three times -- one each for the residence of the bride and groom, and once for the place the event happened -- if all three towns are different. I've also seen out-of-state marriages recorded, mostly when the marriage took place in Vermont. On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Deborah HAM <debiham@comcast.net> wrote: > I have noticed this practice as well (deaths in my case). I live in Mass. > but don't know the reason out-of-state events are registered in the local > Mass. town. I figured it was commonplace in all states, so I'll be > interested to see if anyone out there has an explanation. > For deaths, it may be that the double registration was required when a body was transported across jurisdictional lines -- have you looked for a burial transfer permit? I have a possible double death registration in two neighboring counties, and two cases where I have people whose obituaries say they are buried in Massachusetts, but who are also recorded back home in the parish registers in England. One of the registers lists the Massachusetts cemetery and town in the space for the residence of the deceased. (Ordering the certificates for all these, getting cemetery records from Massachusetts, and looking for the burial transfer permits, are on my To Do List.) For other examples of finding death certificates in two states, see Judy G. Russell's posts on The Legal Genealogist from Jan 21 and 22, 2015: http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2015/01/21/death-in-the-wrong-place/ http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2015/01/22/following-up-on-death/ The state has guidance on the current laws here: http://www.mass.gov/courts/case-legal-res/law-lib/laws-by-subj/about/burial.html including a Death Registration Fact Book <http://fcaemass.org/CFYOD/FactbookR301deathregistration2006.pdf> (PDF). The fact sheet for births outside of Massachusetts is here: http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/gov/departments/dph/programs/admin/dmoa/vitals/amendments-corrections-and-delayed-records.html and further guidance for researchers is here: http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/gov/departments/dph/programs/admin/dmoa/vitals/data.html The current fact sheets can be useful as a starting point if one wants to walk backwards through the statutes to find the law for the time period of the event in question. Jan Murphy packrat74@gmail.com Moderator Pro Tempore genealogy.stackexchange.com
I have noticed this practice as well (deaths in my case). I live in Mass. but don't know the reason out-of-state events are registered in the local Mass. town. I figured it was commonplace in all states, so I'll be interested to see if anyone out there has an explanation Debi Ham > On March 21, 2017 at 3:00 AM transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Send TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM mailing list submissions to > transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/transitional-genealogists-forum > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > transitional-genealogists-forum-owner@rootsweb.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Registering out-of-state births in Massachusetts (M. A. Beldin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:35:12 -0700 > From: "M. A. Beldin" <mabeldin@gmail.com> > To: Transitional-Genealogists-Forum@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TGF] Registering out-of-state births in Massachusetts > Message-ID: > <CABy+r=Ro7hEw7CdxY+0uSxEPgso=hnFh4P-fGqcDxRWg0p_bSQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Why do people who have children born in other states or countries register > their infants with the state of Massachusetts when they move there? > > I remember reading something about having to register a marriage but can no > longer find the source or reason. My great grandparents were from > Pittsfield, but apparently eloped and married in New Lebanon, NY, but then > registered in Pittsfield when they returned to live there. > > But i am also finding births that occurred out of state, or out of country > as with my Great Grandfather's family who immigrated from Scotland to > Boston and registered their young son, born in Jan 1886, immigrated in Sep > 1886. > > Yesterday, I found a registration of a baby who was born in Plattsburgh, > NY, in 1892, but apparently moved to Springfield, Massachusetts the same > year and his registration is in the birth registers. I also noticed several > others from Albany, NY. It is only the young babies, none of the older > children are registered. > > I just wrote to my cousin in Massachusetts but she does not know why. > However, says it still happens for marriages and deaths, she didn't mention > births. > > I searched online, and the two wikis, FS.org and Ancestry, but can't find > the explanation I have found in the past. > > Thanks > Margie Beldin > Washington State > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 11, Issue 65 > ***************************************************************
Why do people who have children born in other states or countries register their infants with the state of Massachusetts when they move there? I remember reading something about having to register a marriage but can no longer find the source or reason. My great grandparents were from Pittsfield, but apparently eloped and married in New Lebanon, NY, but then registered in Pittsfield when they returned to live there. But i am also finding births that occurred out of state, or out of country as with my Great Grandfather's family who immigrated from Scotland to Boston and registered their young son, born in Jan 1886, immigrated in Sep 1886. Yesterday, I found a registration of a baby who was born in Plattsburgh, NY, in 1892, but apparently moved to Springfield, Massachusetts the same year and his registration is in the birth registers. I also noticed several others from Albany, NY. It is only the young babies, none of the older children are registered. I just wrote to my cousin in Massachusetts but she does not know why. However, says it still happens for marriages and deaths, she didn't mention births. I searched online, and the two wikis, FS.org and Ancestry, but can't find the explanation I have found in the past. Thanks Margie Beldin Washington State
Read the terms and conditions of each site. That will help to understand what you can and can't do. Just because a site is free, doesn't mean you can copy and use the material. Wells Genealogical ResearchCrystal Lake, Illinois815.519.5715wellsresearch.net From: "bmd101@netzero.net" <bmd101@netzero.net> To: dlhmda@gmail.com Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Copyright question As a general rule, posting anything to FB from a pay site violates their terms of use - basically stealing. I always ignore requests for "lookups" - I pays my money and they can, too. On the other hand, if the information is available from a free, publicly available site, just copy & paste the URL. Pauline Merrick Brookfield, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Deb" <dlhmda@gmail.com> To: "TGF" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TGF] Copyright question Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 11:54:10 -0400 Hi all, I have a question about copyright. I am a member of several closed genealogy Facebook groups where there are requests for lookups, documents, obits, etc. What are the issues regarding posting a copy of a recent newspaper obituary whether from the paper itself or from an online source such as newspapers.com? I have transcribed info but have been leery of providing an actual copy. I have read the Ancestry Terms and Conditions and I think I understand how I personally can use the content, I am not sure about this particular issue. Thanks for any help or insight, Deb --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
As a general rule, posting anything to FB from a pay site violates their terms of use - basically stealing. I always ignore requests for "lookups" - I pays my money and they can, too. On the other hand, if the information is available from a free, publicly available site, just copy & paste the URL. Pauline Merrick Brookfield, MA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Deb" <dlhmda@gmail.com> To: "TGF" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TGF] Copyright question Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 11:54:10 -0400 Hi all, I have a question about copyright. I am a member of several closed genealogy Facebook groups where there are requests for lookups, documents, obits, etc. What are the issues regarding posting a copy of a recent newspaper obituary whether from the paper itself or from an online source such as newspapers.com? I have transcribed info but have been leery of providing an actual copy. I have read the Ancestry Terms and Conditions and I think I understand how I personally can use the content, I am not sure about this particular issue. Thanks for any help or insight, Deb --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
About 20 years ago my cousin and I were researching at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. He was using international films in the basement and I was working upstairs. I went to the basement to see if he was ready to go to dinner. While passing through the book stacks, I noticed a large 8-volume set bearing the surname of my husband's maternal grandmother. It was in German, but after much searching I was able to find his grandmother and her family in the 7th book. The book traced her line back to the 1600s. The publication date was fairly recent and the author's address in Germany was included. I wrote to compliment him on his work, and he replied. Fortunately he was fluent in English. We corresponded several times. I was able to update him on the family--all he had was the grandmother's birth date and marriage, as she and her husband had immigrated to the U.S. in 1902. He was unaware of a second marriage of the grandmother's father and was able to locate that record, as well as the death date of the second wife. I wouldn't be able to have this serendipitous experience today, as the books are in storage. The spelling variation the grandmother's family used for their name is not included in the catalog record, so I might not have found the books by searching the catalog. I was in the right place at the right time! Donna Meszaros
Hi all, I have a question about copyright. I am a member of several closed genealogy Facebook groups where there are requests for lookups, documents, obits, etc. What are the issues regarding posting a copy of a recent newspaper obituary whether from the paper itself or from an online source such as newspapers.com? I have transcribed info but have been leery of providing an actual copy. I have read the Ancestry Terms and Conditions and I think I understand how I personally can use the content, I am not sure about this particular issue. Thanks for any help or insight, Deb --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
What a fabulous opportunity. I love working with academia. Great job! ---------------------- Barbara J. Ball, GISP, CG℠ GIS Analyst & Genealogist Copestone Resources, LLC "From nowhere we came, into nowhere we go... What is life? It is the little shadow that runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset." - Chief Crowfoot
My best serendipity story: A cousin of mine went to the historical society to do some research on a building that had been in our family for years, but was sold decades ago. Found little in the records, but as she signed the visitor's log, noticed that the person who had signed just above her had given her address as the very building we were interested in! She copied down her contact information, got in touch, and we got an awesome tour of the building that my great-grandparents, 2x great-grandparents, and 3x great-grandparents had lived in. And this was in NYC, not some little town historical society, so the odds of coming across that address are something like astronomical! Kathleen
When I was researching my great grandmother a few years ago (SMITH married to a DAKIN). Lots of information on her hubby the former postmaster & general store owner before they married not so much on her. I emailed the historical society, didn't hear back for a while, and got busy other leads. A few weeks later I heard from the town historian. Very apologetic. She had found my email in the "spam" folder when she looked for another expected letter. We set up a time the next day to talk, since she had a researcher coming in that afternoon to pick up stuff. Sounded good to me. The researcher came in to pick up pictures for a house history report for a client. She said she noticed the brother-in-law of the original home owner named DAKIN and she had some DAKINs just over the NY/CT border. Did the researcher know if this was the same family? DAKIN -- gee I've not had any question on the DAKINs in years and then 2 in one day. Would we like her to introduce us?! It turns out that we share our 4th great grandparents Timothy DAKIN and Lydia FISH who were Quakers just over the border in NY. We joined forces in our research. The next spring, I took a trip to CT, stayed with her. Her sister and father joined us and we did a research trip out each day visiting repositories all up and down the border. Erica Erica Dakin Voolich •Genealogist, PLCGS, check out my genealogy blogs http://genea-adventures.blogspot.com http://ursulawright.blogspot.com http://geneabloggers.com/introduce-erica-dakin-voolich/ •Secretary, Middlesex Chapter, Massachusetts Society of Genealogists •Mathematics Tutor (grades 4 - algebra2, geometry) •President Somerville Mathematics Fund Listen to my TEDxSomerville talk on the work of the Somerville Math Fund <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rayp2ujjLA> Support the Math Fund when you shop on Amazon, https://smile.amazon.com/ch/46-2840495 Support the Math Fund when you shop using Giving Assistant <https://givingassistant.org/np#somerville-mathematics-fund-inc>. Chapter, Winner of the 2011, New England Chapter of the Year Award Chapter, Winner of the 2003-2004 *Golden Tassel* Service Award We celebrate and encourage mathematics achievement in Somerville MA! http://www.somervillemathematicsfund.org Become a fan on our Facebook page: Facebook | Somerville Mathematics Fund Check out my blog: http://somervillemathematics.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Jan Murphy <packrat74@gmail.com> wrote: > There's also the series of "Serendipity in Genealogy" posts on The Ancestry > Insider blog. Fun stuff. > > http://www.ancestryinsider.org/search/label/serendipity > > Jan Murphy > packrat74@gmail.com > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:25 AM, ccr <ggfdcdf@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for all the book suggestions! There were so many, I created a > > new WorldCat list to jot the titles down for safe-keeping. > > > > I also searched for "serendipity" and browsed through dissertation > > titles. It's interesting to imagine how it might apply in other > > fields. > > > > Cyndy > > > > Cynthia Richardson > > Orange County, CA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Karen,I am so excited for your being involved in this project about St. Augustine. Your work and encouragement from others must be a high like no other. When your heart is in any project, you will turn out superior work.Cheryl Proctor On Friday, March 17, 2017 5:03 PM, Karen Rhodes <bitbucket001@comcast.net> wrote: I received a phone call from my major professor last week, and he was excited about a project he is spearheading to gather data on, identify, and relate people who lived in Florida during the Spanish colonial periods, 1565-1763 and 1784-1821. My work on St. Augustine's population during that latter period fits in like a hand in a glove, he said, and he wanted me to take charge of that portion of this project, to be called the Colonial Florida Digital History Institute. This will be a huge collection of data to be fed into a relational database that will be mounted online and available to the public. Teachers and students can use it for research; family historians and genealogists can use it, as well. The project will be launched on the web this fall, beginning with coverage of all the individuals who were part of an expedition to La Florida in 1566. Other data sets covering other expeditions, settlements at St. Augustine, Santa Elena (today's Parris Island, SC), and other locations, will be mounted as the data are input and prepared for the site. This is an ongoing project. My part won't be mounted probably for another two years, at least. Participation in the project comes with a title, but without compensation of the economic sort. Oh, well. My participation will constitute publication for academic purposes, and will look really good on the curriculum vitae. The title is Principal Investigator for East Florida in the Second Spanish Period. Hey -- I'm a P.I.! I told my major professor, now my colleague (I got my master's degree in May of 2015), that I was sure my genealogical training would work well in this project, and he said that it would, indeed. Here is a way in which genealogy is putting its foot in the door of academia. I'm all for that! The website will have more than the aggregation of data in a searchable, relatable format. There will be digital scans of original documents from the diocesan archives of the Catholic cathedral at St. Augustine, some 6,000 baptism, marriage, and burial records, and other documents. There will be stories -- tales that we research staff will glean or have gleaned from our researches in the original documents. I have a couple of highly amusing stories from the marriage petitions in St. Augustine from 1784-1803, and one very sad story of the suicide of a St. Augustine doctor. And there are more stories lurking in the documents. I've already talked to descendants of Minorcan (came from the Balearic Island of Minorca, just southeast of Spain) and Floridano (of Spanish ancestry born in Florida) who live in the north Florida area, and they are excited about the project. I'm excited, too. Karen Packard Rhodes Middleburg, Clay County, Florida ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There's also the series of "Serendipity in Genealogy" posts on The Ancestry Insider blog. Fun stuff. http://www.ancestryinsider.org/search/label/serendipity Jan Murphy packrat74@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:25 AM, ccr <ggfdcdf@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for all the book suggestions! There were so many, I created a > new WorldCat list to jot the titles down for safe-keeping. > > I also searched for "serendipity" and browsed through dissertation > titles. It's interesting to imagine how it might apply in other > fields. > > Cyndy > > Cynthia Richardson > Orange County, CA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Wonderful news! Denise On Mar 17, 2017 5:03 PM, "Karen Rhodes" <bitbucket001@comcast.net> wrote: > > I received a phone call from my major professor last week, and he was > excited about a project he is spearheading to gather data on, identify, and > relate people who lived in Florida during the Spanish colonial periods, > 1565-1763 and 1784-1821. My work on St. Augustine's population during that > latter period fits in like a hand in a glove, he said, and he wanted me to > take charge of that portion of this project, to be called the Colonial > Florida Digital History Institute. This will be a huge collection of data > to be fed into a relational database that will be mounted online and > available to the public. Teachers and students can use it for research; > family historians and genealogists can use it, as well. > > The project will be launched on the web this fall, beginning with coverage > of all the individuals who were part of an expedition to La Florida in > 1566. Other data sets covering other expeditions, settlements at St. > Augustine, Santa Elena (today's Parris Island, SC), and other locations, > will be mounted as the data are input and prepared for the site. This is > an ongoing project. My part won't be mounted probably for another two > years, at least. > > Participation in the project comes with a title, but without compensation > of the economic sort. Oh, well. My participation will constitute > publication for academic purposes, and will look really good on the > curriculum vitae. The title is Principal Investigator for East Florida in > the Second Spanish Period. Hey -- I'm a P.I.! > > I told my major professor, now my colleague (I got my master's degree in > May of 2015), that I was sure my genealogical training would work well in > this project, and he said that it would, indeed. Here is a way in which > genealogy is putting its foot in the door of academia. I'm all for that! > > The website will have more than the aggregation of data in a searchable, > relatable format. There will be digital scans of original documents from > the diocesan archives of the Catholic cathedral at St. Augustine, some > 6,000 baptism, marriage, and burial records, and other documents. There > will be stories -- tales that we research staff will glean or have gleaned > from our researches in the original documents. I have a couple of highly > amusing stories from the marriage petitions in St. Augustine from > 1784-1803, and one very sad story of the suicide of a St. Augustine > doctor. And there are more stories lurking in the documents. > > I've already talked to descendants of Minorcan (came from the Balearic > Island of Minorca, just southeast of Spain) and Floridano (of Spanish > ancestry born in Florida) who live in the north Florida area, and they are > excited about the project. > > I'm excited, too. > > Karen Packard Rhodes > > Middleburg, Clay County, Florida > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I received a phone call from my major professor last week, and he was excited about a project he is spearheading to gather data on, identify, and relate people who lived in Florida during the Spanish colonial periods, 1565-1763 and 1784-1821. My work on St. Augustine's population during that latter period fits in like a hand in a glove, he said, and he wanted me to take charge of that portion of this project, to be called the Colonial Florida Digital History Institute. This will be a huge collection of data to be fed into a relational database that will be mounted online and available to the public. Teachers and students can use it for research; family historians and genealogists can use it, as well. The project will be launched on the web this fall, beginning with coverage of all the individuals who were part of an expedition to La Florida in 1566. Other data sets covering other expeditions, settlements at St. Augustine, Santa Elena (today's Parris Island, SC), and other locations, will be mounted as the data are input and prepared for the site. This is an ongoing project. My part won't be mounted probably for another two years, at least. Participation in the project comes with a title, but without compensation of the economic sort. Oh, well. My participation will constitute publication for academic purposes, and will look really good on the curriculum vitae. The title is Principal Investigator for East Florida in the Second Spanish Period. Hey -- I'm a P.I.! I told my major professor, now my colleague (I got my master's degree in May of 2015), that I was sure my genealogical training would work well in this project, and he said that it would, indeed. Here is a way in which genealogy is putting its foot in the door of academia. I'm all for that! The website will have more than the aggregation of data in a searchable, relatable format. There will be digital scans of original documents from the diocesan archives of the Catholic cathedral at St. Augustine, some 6,000 baptism, marriage, and burial records, and other documents. There will be stories -- tales that we research staff will glean or have gleaned from our researches in the original documents. I have a couple of highly amusing stories from the marriage petitions in St. Augustine from 1784-1803, and one very sad story of the suicide of a St. Augustine doctor. And there are more stories lurking in the documents. I've already talked to descendants of Minorcan (came from the Balearic Island of Minorca, just southeast of Spain) and Floridano (of Spanish ancestry born in Florida) who live in the north Florida area, and they are excited about the project. I'm excited, too. Karen Packard Rhodes Middleburg, Clay County, Florida
There is no one better qualified! Dee > On March 17, 2017 at 4:02 PM Karen Rhodes <bitbucket001@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > I received a phone call from my major professor last week, and he was > excited about a project he is spearheading to gather data on, identify, > and relate people who lived in Florida during the Spanish colonial > periods, 1565-1763 and 1784-1821. My work on St. Augustine's population > during that latter period fits in like a hand in a glove, he said, and > he wanted me to take charge of that portion of this project, to be > called the Colonial Florida Digital History Institute. This will be a > huge collection of data to be fed into a relational database that will > be mounted online and available to the public. Teachers and students > can use it for research; family historians and genealogists can use it, > as well. > > The project will be launched on the web this fall, beginning with > coverage of all the individuals who were part of an expedition to La > Florida in 1566. Other data sets covering other expeditions, > settlements at St. Augustine, Santa Elena (today's Parris Island, SC), > and other locations, will be mounted as the data are input and prepared > for the site. This is an ongoing project. My part won't be mounted > probably for another two years, at least. > > Participation in the project comes with a title, but without > compensation of the economic sort. Oh, well. My participation will > constitute publication for academic purposes, and will look really good > on the curriculum vitae. The title is Principal Investigator for East > Florida in the Second Spanish Period. Hey -- I'm a P.I.! > > I told my major professor, now my colleague (I got my master's degree in > May of 2015), that I was sure my genealogical training would work well > in this project, and he said that it would, indeed. Here is a way in > which genealogy is putting its foot in the door of academia. I'm all > for that! > > The website will have more than the aggregation of data in a searchable, > relatable format. There will be digital scans of original documents from > the diocesan archives of the Catholic cathedral at St. Augustine, some > 6,000 baptism, marriage, and burial records, and other documents. There > will be stories -- tales that we research staff will glean or have > gleaned from our researches in the original documents. I have a couple > of highly amusing stories from the marriage petitions in St. Augustine > from 1784-1803, and one very sad story of the suicide of a St. Augustine > doctor. And there are more stories lurking in the documents. > > I've already talked to descendants of Minorcan (came from the Balearic > Island of Minorca, just southeast of Spain) and Floridano (of Spanish > ancestry born in Florida) who live in the north Florida area, and they > are excited about the project. > > I'm excited, too. > > Karen Packard Rhodes > > Middleburg, Clay County, Florida > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Forensic Genealogy Services LLC and Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty, POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist CG is a service mark and Certified Genealogist is a registered certification mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluations, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.
Terrific. And a wonderful period to do work--and much needed. Jill On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Karen Rhodes <bitbucket001@comcast.net> wrote: > > I received a phone call from my major professor last week, and he was > excited about a project he is spearheading to gather data on, identify, and > relate people who lived in Florida during the Spanish colonial periods, > 1565-1763 and 1784-1821. My work on St. Augustine's population during that > latter period fits in like a hand in a glove, he said, and he wanted me to > take charge of that portion of this project, to be called the Colonial > Florida Digital History Institute. This will be a huge collection of data > to be fed into a relational database that will be mounted online and > available to the public. Teachers and students can use it for research; > family historians and genealogists can use it, as well. > > The project will be launched on the web this fall, beginning with coverage > of all the individuals who were part of an expedition to La Florida in > 1566. Other data sets covering other expeditions, settlements at St. > Augustine, Santa Elena (today's Parris Island, SC), and other locations, > will be mounted as the data are input and prepared for the site. This is > an ongoing project. My part won't be mounted probably for another two > years, at least. > > Participation in the project comes with a title, but without compensation > of the economic sort. Oh, well. My participation will constitute > publication for academic purposes, and will look really good on the > curriculum vitae. The title is Principal Investigator for East Florida in > the Second Spanish Period. Hey -- I'm a P.I.! > > I told my major professor, now my colleague (I got my master's degree in > May of 2015), that I was sure my genealogical training would work well in > this project, and he said that it would, indeed. Here is a way in which > genealogy is putting its foot in the door of academia. I'm all for that! > > The website will have more than the aggregation of data in a searchable, > relatable format. There will be digital scans of original documents from > the diocesan archives of the Catholic cathedral at St. Augustine, some > 6,000 baptism, marriage, and burial records, and other documents. There > will be stories -- tales that we research staff will glean or have gleaned > from our researches in the original documents. I have a couple of highly > amusing stories from the marriage petitions in St. Augustine from > 1784-1803, and one very sad story of the suicide of a St. Augustine > doctor. And there are more stories lurking in the documents. > > I've already talked to descendants of Minorcan (came from the Balearic > Island of Minorca, just southeast of Spain) and Floridano (of Spanish > ancestry born in Florida) who live in the north Florida area, and they are > excited about the project. > > I'm excited, too. > > Karen Packard Rhodes > > Middleburg, Clay County, Florida > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >