I have seen the following term in MyHeritage: Relation to site manager: Related by marriage: 30 steps Can anyone explain this or point me to information that does explain it? * Kat**hie Fortner PLCGS* * <kathie.fortner@gmail.com>*

Jjim, This was very helpful! Lucky you to do the methodology workshop! Where was it? I have heard that sometimes clients contact several to see who offers the best deal. This may be what happened. He said several times he looked forward to my “proposal.” I haven’t even gotten to the point of telling him my fees, how it works with contract and hours, etc. I think it is good to follow my instincts, as you suggest. Thanks for passing on what Tom said! All the best, Ann Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> On Apr 1, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Jim Thornhill <jtcowman@cnextplus.com<mailto:jtcowman@cnextplus.com>> wrote: Ann, I too am new to professional genealogy, but my instincts tell me to suggest caution. If I understand Catherine's post, it sounds like you are not the first genealogist this potential client has consulted. They may be looking for someone who will do their bidding on their terms instead of doing sound research. I was in an advanced methodology workshop with Tom Jones last week, where he emphatically said that the first thing that we must do is to verify the background information we are given according to GPS standards, and the client has to pay for it. It doesn't get much clearer than that! Jim -- Create /Your/ Family's Legacy with Heroes of the Past <http://www.heroesofthepast.com> Family History problems solved Record Retrieval ** Individual Coaching (Dallas, TX) Speaking/Training ** Photography ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was helpful Phyllis, Thank you. The main thing is, he thinks that he is all done in Canada and thinks research should focus only in VT. Am I right that one cannot isolate a geographic area if the person spent time in several places? I think so. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> On Apr 1, 2017, at 5:44 PM, pgarratt@gessert.us<mailto:pgarratt@gessert.us> wrote: Hi Ann, This is an excellent question for many reason but I will focus on your question about whether or not you should take the case. Except in very specific generic situations, I refer out inquires if they require a good part of the research to be in an area where I don't have expertise or access to necessary records. Over the years I've learned which of my collegues to refer out to (and they refer cases to me), but if you don't have anyone in mind for this job you might consider having them go to the APG website. Eventually you'll network enought to know who is expert in particular areas and then be able to refer such cases (or parts of cases) out to collegues. It sounds like you already know this though. There is so much work out there, that I personally just stay focused on what I do best and also enjoy doing. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: "Ann Watson" <ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com>> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:17pm To: "transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com<mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com>" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com<mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com>> Subject: [TGF] Vermont/Canada case: whether I should take it Hi Everyone, I have had an inquiry about a man Luman Latham who was enlisted in the US army in 1819, deserted from his post at Sacketts Harbor NY (on Lake Ontario) in 1820, and spent the rest of his life in Ontario, Canada, marrying there in 1822 an dying there in 1875. There are some Canadian records for him on Ancestry. Two of the documents the client has obtained list his birthplace as Vermont, about 1800-1801. Witnesses with surname Edgely were apparently from Danville, VT. They appear in the 1800 census in Vermont but not thereafter. A Latham appears in the census for that county in 1800. No Latham that could be this man appears in the Vermont Vital Records Index. After talking some with the client I see that almost all of his research has been online at Ancestry and FamilySearch; he cites “27 family trees” that all have the same info. I tried to explain that people copy from others. My instinct tells me that this is a major FAN CLUB case that would require checking client's information, plus going back and forth between Canadian, Vermont, and NY records.( His wife may have been born in Canada, New York, or Vermont.) The client thinks he has "exhausted Canadian records” and is sure the next thing is research in Vermont; but he has basically found what he could find online and has not looked at any other documents. As I say, instinct tells me this case needs someone familiar with Canada, NY, and VT records and that it is a huge case that would be too difficult for my skill level at this point. (I am still pretty new to the field.) Am I not correct that a researcher cannot say they are done with Canada, when the man spent his entire adult life there? Plus, no one has analyzed the records he did find, using genealogical analysis methods. Any input as to whether I ought to take this job, would be appreciated. I am thinking that not being familiar with Canadian or New York records, this is beyond my expertise. Thank you. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com><mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com><http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I forgot to say, he is looking for the parents of the man. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Deanna Korte <deanna.korte@gmail.com<mailto:deanna.korte@gmail.com>> wrote: What is he looking to find out... what's the goal of the research? Yes, with that many family trees, likely wrong and copied to and from each other, you would absolutely start over from the beginning. Your client may not be interested in paying you for the time it would take to do that, but you've already had the feeling it's the right thing to do. As far as it being too difficult for you, that is how we learn... working on things a bit above our level. Do you have resources you can draw on if you do contract with this client and run into trouble? Deanna Korte deanna@dekgenealogy.com<mailto:deanna@dekgenealogy.com> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Ann Watson <ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> wrote: Hi Everyone, I have had an inquiry about a man Luman Latham who was enlisted in the US army in 1819, deserted from his post at Sacketts Harbor NY (on Lake Ontario) in 1820, and spent the rest of his life in Ontario, Canada, marrying there in 1822 an dying there in 1875. There are some Canadian records for him on Ancestry. Two of the documents the client has obtained list his birthplace as Vermont, about 1800-1801. Witnesses with surname Edgely were apparently from Danville, VT. They appear in the 1800 census in Vermont but not thereafter. A Latham appears in the census for that county in 1800. No Latham that could be this man appears in the Vermont Vital Records Index. After talking some with the client I see that almost all of his research has been online at Ancestry and FamilySearch; he cites “27 family trees” that all have the same info. I tried to explain that people copy from others. My instinct tells me that this is a major FAN CLUB case that would require checking client's information, plus going back and forth between Canadian, Vermont, and NY records.( His wife may have been born in Canada, New York, or Vermont.) The client thinks he has "exhausted Canadian records” and is sure the next thing is research in Vermont; but he has basically found what he could find online and has not looked at any other documents. As I say, instinct tells me this case needs someone familiar with Canada, NY, and VT records and that it is a huge case that would be too difficult for my skill level at this point. (I am still pretty new to the field.) Am I not correct that a researcher cannot say they are done with Canada, when the man spent his entire adult life there? Plus, no one has analyzed the records he did find, using genealogical analysis methods. Any input as to whether I ought to take this job, would be appreciated. I am thinking that not being familiar with Canadian or New York records, this is beyond my expertise. Thank you. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sounds to me as if the client expects this to be a records-based problem. Given the locations and time period, as well as the previous research (or "research") the client cites, that is unlikely. My advice is that, unless you and the client are up for a wide-ranging search of records and much correlation of information, steer clear. It strikes me at times that clients mistake "professional genealogist" for "magician." Denise Picard Lindgren

Ann, I too am new to professional genealogy, but my instincts tell me to suggest caution. If I understand Catherine's post, it sounds like you are not the first genealogist this potential client has consulted. They may be looking for someone who will do their bidding on their terms instead of doing sound research. I was in an advanced methodology workshop with Tom Jones last week, where he emphatically said that the first thing that we must do is to verify the background information we are given according to GPS standards, and the client has to pay for it. It doesn't get much clearer than that! Jim -- Create /Your/ Family's Legacy with Heroes of the Past <http://www.heroesofthepast.com> Family History problems solved Record Retrieval ** Individual Coaching (Dallas, TX) Speaking/Training ** Photography

Hi Everyone, I have had an inquiry about a man Luman Latham who was enlisted in the US army in 1819, deserted from his post at Sacketts Harbor NY (on Lake Ontario) in 1820, and spent the rest of his life in Ontario, Canada, marrying there in 1822 an dying there in 1875. There are some Canadian records for him on Ancestry. Two of the documents the client has obtained list his birthplace as Vermont, about 1800-1801. Witnesses with surname Edgely were apparently from Danville, VT. They appear in the 1800 census in Vermont but not thereafter. A Latham appears in the census for that county in 1800. No Latham that could be this man appears in the Vermont Vital Records Index. After talking some with the client I see that almost all of his research has been online at Ancestry and FamilySearch; he cites “27 family trees” that all have the same info. I tried to explain that people copy from others. My instinct tells me that this is a major FAN CLUB case that would require checking client's information, plus going back and forth between Canadian, Vermont, and NY records.( His wife may have been born in Canada, New York, or Vermont.) The client thinks he has "exhausted Canadian records” and is sure the next thing is research in Vermont; but he has basically found what he could find online and has not looked at any other documents. As I say, instinct tells me this case needs someone familiar with Canada, NY, and VT records and that it is a huge case that would be too difficult for my skill level at this point. (I am still pretty new to the field.) Am I not correct that a researcher cannot say they are done with Canada, when the man spent his entire adult life there? Plus, no one has analyzed the records he did find, using genealogical analysis methods. Any input as to whether I ought to take this job, would be appreciated. I am thinking that not being familiar with Canadian or New York records, this is beyond my expertise. Thank you. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com>

I would steer clear of folks that think they have done everything. I recently had someone contact me from Spain expecting me to find the history of an obscure point of land in BC with little information. Given the amount of work I did for which I will likely not be paid, I wish I had turned him down. Helen Edwards Victoria, BC On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Denise Picard Lindgren < negenealogist@gmail.com> wrote: > Sounds to me as if the client expects this to be a records-based problem. > Given the locations and time period, as well as the previous research (or > "research") the client cites, that is unlikely. > > My advice is that, unless you and the client are up for a > wide-ranging search of records and much correlation of information, steer > clear. > > It strikes me at times that clients mistake "professional genealogist" for > "magician." > > Denise Picard Lindgren > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I received this same inquiry. Catherine Desmarais Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Deanna Korte <deanna.korte@gmail.com> wrote: > > What is he looking to find out... what's the goal of the research? > > Yes, with that many family trees, likely wrong and copied to and from each other, you would absolutely start over from the beginning. Your client may not be interested in paying you for the time it would take to do that, but you've already had the feeling it's the right thing to do. > > As far as it being too difficult for you, that is how we learn... working on things a bit above our level. Do you have resources you can draw on if you do contract with this client and run into trouble? > > Deanna Korte > deanna@dekgenealogy.com > >> On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Ann Watson <ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I have had an inquiry about a man Luman Latham who was enlisted in the US army in 1819, deserted from his post at Sacketts Harbor NY (on Lake Ontario) in 1820, and spent the rest of his life in Ontario, Canada, marrying there in 1822 an dying there in 1875. There are some Canadian records for him on Ancestry. >> >> Two of the documents the client has obtained list his birthplace as Vermont, about 1800-1801. Witnesses with surname Edgely were apparently from Danville, VT. They appear in the 1800 census in Vermont but not thereafter. A Latham appears in the census for that county in 1800. No Latham that could be this man appears in the Vermont Vital Records Index. >> >> After talking some with the client I see that almost all of his research has been online at Ancestry and FamilySearch; he cites “27 family trees” that all have the same info. I tried to explain that people copy from others. >> >> My instinct tells me that this is a major FAN CLUB case that would require checking client's information, plus going back and forth between Canadian, Vermont, and NY records.( His wife may have been born in Canada, New York, or Vermont.) The client thinks he has "exhausted Canadian records” and is sure the next thing is research in Vermont; but he has basically found what he could find online and has not looked at any other documents. >> >> As I say, instinct tells me this case needs someone familiar with Canada, NY, and VT records and that it is a huge case that would be too difficult for my skill level at this point. (I am still pretty new to the field.) Am I not correct that a researcher cannot say they are done with Canada, when the man spent his entire adult life there? Plus, no one has analyzed the records he did find, using genealogical analysis methods. >> >> Any input as to whether I ought to take this job, would be appreciated. I am thinking that not being familiar with Canadian or New York records, this is beyond my expertise. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Family Pictures Genealogy >> Ann D. Watson >> ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> >> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is he looking to find out... what's the goal of the research? Yes, with that many family trees, likely wrong and copied to and from each other, you would absolutely start over from the beginning. Your client may not be interested in paying you for the time it would take to do that, but you've already had the feeling it's the right thing to do. As far as it being too difficult for you, that is how we learn... working on things a bit above our level. Do you have resources you can draw on if you do contract with this client and run into trouble? Deanna Korte deanna@dekgenealogy.com > On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Ann Watson <ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I have had an inquiry about a man Luman Latham who was enlisted in the US army in 1819, deserted from his post at Sacketts Harbor NY (on Lake Ontario) in 1820, and spent the rest of his life in Ontario, Canada, marrying there in 1822 an dying there in 1875. There are some Canadian records for him on Ancestry. > > Two of the documents the client has obtained list his birthplace as Vermont, about 1800-1801. Witnesses with surname Edgely were apparently from Danville, VT. They appear in the 1800 census in Vermont but not thereafter. A Latham appears in the census for that county in 1800. No Latham that could be this man appears in the Vermont Vital Records Index. > > After talking some with the client I see that almost all of his research has been online at Ancestry and FamilySearch; he cites “27 family trees” that all have the same info. I tried to explain that people copy from others. > > My instinct tells me that this is a major FAN CLUB case that would require checking client's information, plus going back and forth between Canadian, Vermont, and NY records.( His wife may have been born in Canada, New York, or Vermont.) The client thinks he has "exhausted Canadian records” and is sure the next thing is research in Vermont; but he has basically found what he could find online and has not looked at any other documents. > > As I say, instinct tells me this case needs someone familiar with Canada, NY, and VT records and that it is a huge case that would be too difficult for my skill level at this point. (I am still pretty new to the field.) Am I not correct that a researcher cannot say they are done with Canada, when the man spent his entire adult life there? Plus, no one has analyzed the records he did find, using genealogical analysis methods. > > Any input as to whether I ought to take this job, would be appreciated. I am thinking that not being familiar with Canadian or New York records, this is beyond my expertise. > > Thank you. > > > > > > Family Pictures Genealogy > Ann D. Watson > ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> > www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ann, This is an excellent question for many reason but I will focus on your question about whether or not you should take the case. Except in very specific generic situations, I refer out inquires if they require a good part of the research to be in an area where I don't have expertise or access to necessary records. Over the years I've learned which of my collegues to refer out to (and they refer cases to me), but if you don't have anyone in mind for this job you might consider having them go to the APG website. Eventually you'll network enought to know who is expert in particular areas and then be able to refer such cases (or parts of cases) out to collegues. It sounds like you already know this though. There is so much work out there, that I personally just stay focused on what I do best and also enjoy doing. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: "Ann Watson" <ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:17pm To: "transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TGF] Vermont/Canada case: whether I should take it Hi Everyone, I have had an inquiry about a man Luman Latham who was enlisted in the US army in 1819, deserted from his post at Sacketts Harbor NY (on Lake Ontario) in 1820, and spent the rest of his life in Ontario, Canada, marrying there in 1822 an dying there in 1875. There are some Canadian records for him on Ancestry. Two of the documents the client has obtained list his birthplace as Vermont, about 1800-1801. Witnesses with surname Edgely were apparently from Danville, VT. They appear in the 1800 census in Vermont but not thereafter. A Latham appears in the census for that county in 1800. No Latham that could be this man appears in the Vermont Vital Records Index. After talking some with the client I see that almost all of his research has been online at Ancestry and FamilySearch; he cites “27 family trees” that all have the same info. I tried to explain that people copy from others. My instinct tells me that this is a major FAN CLUB case that would require checking client's information, plus going back and forth between Canadian, Vermont, and NY records.( His wife may have been born in Canada, New York, or Vermont.) The client thinks he has "exhausted Canadian records” and is sure the next thing is research in Vermont; but he has basically found what he could find online and has not looked at any other documents. As I say, instinct tells me this case needs someone familiar with Canada, NY, and VT records and that it is a huge case that would be too difficult for my skill level at this point. (I am still pretty new to the field.) Am I not correct that a researcher cannot say they are done with Canada, when the man spent his entire adult life there? Plus, no one has analyzed the records he did find, using genealogical analysis methods. Any input as to whether I ought to take this job, would be appreciated. I am thinking that not being familiar with Canadian or New York records, this is beyond my expertise. Thank you. Family Pictures Genealogy Ann D. Watson ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com<mailto:ann@familypicturesgenealogy.com> www.familypicturesgenealogy.com<http://www.familypicturesgenealogy.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Somebody else has the same situation as you. Here is a link to a "Beach" family bible that has the same type of page. They mention who might be the publisher. I took your picture and did a google image search with it and came up with this result. Hope that helps. http://biblerecords.com/beach.html Tom McGee On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Laura Pernice < laura.pernice@rootingoutrelations.com> wrote: > I have several loose pages which were clearly cut from a larger family > bible > book. The pages do not have any identifier as to the publisher of the bible > so that I can date when these names and dates would have been added. > > > > I have carefully checked the decorative scrolling on each pages to make > certain the publisher name was not hidden within this element, but find > nothing. The latest entry on these pages was for an event in 1901, the > earliest was in 1862. > > > > Does anyone know of a reference or any tips that might help me date the > publication of this bible? I have included a link to a sample page here: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dc957ka9l5yedp/Bible%20Page.jpg?dl=0 > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > Laura Pernice > > Tooting Out Relations > > > > www.rootingoutrelations.com <http://www.rootingoutrelations.com> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have several loose pages which were clearly cut from a larger family bible book. The pages do not have any identifier as to the publisher of the bible so that I can date when these names and dates would have been added. I have carefully checked the decorative scrolling on each pages to make certain the publisher name was not hidden within this element, but find nothing. The latest entry on these pages was for an event in 1901, the earliest was in 1862. Does anyone know of a reference or any tips that might help me date the publication of this bible? I have included a link to a sample page here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4dc957ka9l5yedp/Bible%20Page.jpg?dl=0 Thank you! Laura Pernice Tooting Out Relations www.rootingoutrelations.com <http://www.rootingoutrelations.com>

Sorry, I meant to send this to the list and not to Karen only. Debbie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Debbie Parker Wayne <debbie@debbiewayne.com> Date: Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Terminology To: "Karen J. Matheson" <mathesonkarenj@gmail.com> Karen, Are you thinking of the discussion on one side of Elizabeth Shown Mills' "Evidence Analysis: A Research Process Map" Quicksheet? There is a discussion of original and derivative sources followed by a discussion of derivatives "that might be considered equivalent to originals," namely, duplicate original, image copy, and official record copy. There may have been some other terminology used while the evidence analysis map was being enhanced, but this was the main published source I could find with these distinctions. Regards, Debbie Debbie Parker Wayne, Certified Genealogist® -- http://debbiewayne.com/ DNA Project Chair, Texas State Genealogical Society -- http://txsgs.org/ ​Co-author of *Genetic Genealogy in Practice* with Blaine T. Bettinger​ On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Karen J. Matheson <mathesonkarenj@gmail.com > wrote: > Yes, in citations I would label it "digital image." > Preservation copy is not what I was thinking of. > It's a label I've heard in the past when discussing original and derivative > records. > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Dee Dee King < > king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > > > Are you asking about preservation copy? > > > > > On Mar 29, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Jill Morelli <jkmorelli@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > In my citations, I call it "digital image". > > > > > > Jill > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Karen J. Matheson < > > mathesonkarenj@gmail.com > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> What do you call a microfilmed or digital image of an original record > > that > > >> has not been altered? It's a term that reflects the "original" status > of > > >> the document + the duplicated image. I just can't recall it. Help! > > >> > ​... > >

Karen asked: " What do you call a microfilmed or digital image of an original record that has not been altered? It's a term that reflects the "original" status of the document + the duplicated image. I just can't recall it. Help!" Karen, in QuickLesson 10 at https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/quicklesson-10-original-records-im age-copies-and-derivatives, I covered a couple of dozen different terms for record and images. Might one of these be what you're thinking of? Elizabeth ------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG HistoricPathways.com EvidenceExplained.com AUTHOR/EDITOR OF Evidence! Citation & Analysis for the Family Historian Evidence Explained: Citing History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace Professional Genealogy: A Manual for Researchers, Writers, Editors, Lecturers & Librarians The Forgotten People: Cane River's Creoles of Color & other works on research methodology & Southern history

Are you asking about preservation copy? > On Mar 29, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Jill Morelli <jkmorelli@gmail.com> wrote: > > In my citations, I call it "digital image". > > Jill > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Karen J. Matheson <mathesonkarenj@gmail.com >> wrote: > >> What do you call a microfilmed or digital image of an original record that >> has not been altered? It's a term that reflects the "original" status of >> the document + the duplicated image. I just can't recall it. Help! >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since writing and reports are a frequent topic of discussion on this list, I thought some of you might be interested in this free webinar on research logs being offered tomorrow by the Association of Professional Genealogists. It is completely free and open to the public. Hope to see some of you there! Kimberly Powell *Write or Regret it! Research Logs: How, When, and Why* Thursday, 30 March 2017, 8:30 PM EDT https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/1890353339403707651 Research logs are an integral part of effective genealogical organization. Each project is different, so the research log should be adapted to each project. This lecture will introduce the importance of research logs, give examples of differing styles, and show how research logs are best used with other tools, including timelines and research plans. The research logs in this discussion will focus on using word document programs rather than specialized organizational programs. When used consistently, your research log will go from being a burden to keep up to a critical tool in your genealogical analysis arsenal. About the Presenter: Rebecca Whitman Koford holds a Certified Genealogist® credential. Her focus is in American research with special emphasis in Maryland and the War of 1812. She has been taking clients and lecturing since 2004. She has spoken for the National Genealogical Society Conference, Maryland State Archives, and for groups in Maryland, Virginia, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Washington, D.C., and Delaware. She is a board member of the Maryland Genealogical Society and volunteers at the Family History Center in Frederick, Maryland. She has published articles in the APG Quarterly, NGS Magazine and the Maryland Genealogical Society Journal. She is a graduate of the fourth ProGen Study Group, an online peer-led study program based on the book Professional Genealogy by Elizabeth Shown Mills, and was appointed ProGen Administrator in January 2015. Rebecca lives in Mt. Airy, Maryland, with three active teenagers and a very patient husband. More upcoming free webinars from APG: https://www.apgen.org/webinars/index.html

Yes, in citations I would label it "digital image." Preservation copy is not what I was thinking of. It's a label I've heard in the past when discussing original and derivative records. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Dee Dee King < king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > Are you asking about preservation copy? > > > On Mar 29, 2017, at 6:55 PM, Jill Morelli <jkmorelli@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In my citations, I call it "digital image". > > > > Jill > > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Karen J. Matheson < > mathesonkarenj@gmail.com > >> wrote: > > > >> What do you call a microfilmed or digital image of an original record > that > >> has not been altered? It's a term that reflects the "original" status of > >> the document + the duplicated image. I just can't recall it. Help! > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In my citations, I call it "digital image". Jill On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Karen J. Matheson <mathesonkarenj@gmail.com > wrote: > What do you call a microfilmed or digital image of an original record that > has not been altered? It's a term that reflects the "original" status of > the document + the duplicated image. I just can't recall it. Help! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What do you call a microfilmed or digital image of an original record that has not been altered? It's a term that reflects the "original" status of the document + the duplicated image. I just can't recall it. Help!