Michele, Thanks for sharing this. It is very interesting. Chuck Mason -----Original Message----- From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestoring@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 6:57 PM To: cgrs791@netscape.com; 'TGF Mailing List' Subject: RE: [TGF] a delayed death certificate This is in Georgia. Here is a link to the death certificate on Georgia's Virtual Vault (Georgia Archives). http://cdm.sos.state.ga.us:8888/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/gadeaths&CISO PTR=334484&CISOBOX=1&REC=2 Michele -----Original Message----- From: Charles S. Mason, Jr. [mailto:cgrs791@netscape.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 6:11 PM To: 'Michele Lewis'; 'TGF Mailing List' Subject: RE: [TGF] a delayed death certificate Michele, You have found an unusual certificate. It would be interesting to know the whole story of why it was filed so late. What state did this take place in. Chuck Mason

This is in Georgia. Here is a link to the death certificate on Georgia's Virtual Vault (Georgia Archives). http://cdm.sos.state.ga.us:8888/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/gadeaths&CISOPTR=334484&CISOBOX=1&REC=2 Michele -----Original Message----- From: Charles S. Mason, Jr. [mailto:cgrs791@netscape.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 6:11 PM To: 'Michele Lewis'; 'TGF Mailing List' Subject: RE: [TGF] a delayed death certificate Michele, You have found an unusual certificate. It would be interesting to know the whole story of why it was filed so late. What state did this take place in. Chuck Mason

82 years? GOOD GRIEF! :) :) :) Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 6:01 PM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: Re: [TGF] a delayed death certificate I've seen lots of these. The oldest was 82 years difference in date claimed at death and the issuance of the certificate. d

Michele, You have found an unusual certificate. It would be interesting to know the whole story of why it was filed so late. What state did this take place in. Chuck Mason -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 3:44 PM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] a delayed death certificate I just found a delayed death certificate. I’ve not seen one of these before. The death occurred 01 Oct 1907. It was filed 23 June 1934. I’ve seen plenty of delayed birth certificates but not this. I guess the family needed a death certificate for some reason. What is really interesting is that this death certificate is VERY filled out. I guess since they had 27 years to think about the answers to the questions they knew the full names of both parents and their exact birth places ☺ Michele The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've never seen one either! 27 yrs. later ... if I were researching this person, I'd want some back-up .. obituary, cemetery marker info, funeral home records, etc. What state? Filed with the state or the county? ~ Trevia Trevia Wooster Beverly Houston, Texas 713-864-6862 Harris County Historical Commission (1995-) - http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/ Clayton Library Friends (1987-) - http://www.claytonlibraryfriends.org/ Advisory Board, Baytown Historical Preservation Assoc. - http://www.baytownhistory.org/ Association of Professional Genealogists - http://www.apgen.org/ (Conference Coordinator) Angelina College Genealogy Conference - http://www.angelina.edu/genealogy/genealogy.html -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 2:44 PM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] a delayed death certificate I just found a delayed death certificate. I’ve not seen one of these before. The death occurred 01 Oct 1907. It was filed 23 June 1934. I’ve seen plenty of delayed birth certificates but not this. I guess the family needed a death certificate for some reason. What is really interesting is that this death certificate is VERY filled out. I guess since they had 27 years to think about the answers to the questions they knew the full names of both parents and their exact birth places ☺ Michele The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The problem with this one is that I had already seen three other death certs and none of them matched the info we needed for "this" woman. The delayed cert 82 years later did "match" the info needed to make it look like the same woman. This was an oil mineral rights case. The family went to the county clerk and submitted sworn statements. None of them were alive when she died! I did not accept that death certificate or any of the other three!! best regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <ancestoring@gmail.com> To: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" <king@forensicgenealogyservices.com>, "TGF Mailing List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 5:52:07 PM Subject: RE: [TGF] a delayed death certificate 82 years? GOOD GRIEF! :) :) :) Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 6:01 PM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: Re: [TGF] a delayed death certificate I've seen lots of these. The oldest was 82 years difference in date claimed at death and the issuance of the certificate. d

I just found a delayed death certificate. I’ve not seen one of these before. The death occurred 01 Oct 1907. It was filed 23 June 1934. I’ve seen plenty of delayed birth certificates but not this. I guess the family needed a death certificate for some reason. What is really interesting is that this death certificate is VERY filled out. I guess since they had 27 years to think about the answers to the questions they knew the full names of both parents and their exact birth places ☺ Michele

I've seen lots of these. The oldest was 82 years difference in date claimed at death and the issuance of the certificate. d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <ancestoring@gmail.com> To: "TGF Mailing List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 2:44:19 PM Subject: [TGF] a delayed death certificate I just found a delayed death certificate. I’ve not seen one of these before. The death occurred 01 Oct 1907. It was filed 23 June 1934. I’ve seen plenty of delayed birth certificates but not this. I guess the family needed a death certificate for some reason. What is really interesting is that this death certificate is VERY filled out. I guess since they had 27 years to think about the answers to the questions they knew the full names of both parents and their exact birth places ☺ Michele The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One can only hope it is correct.....27 years later.   Ann L. Wells ________________________________ From: Michele Lewis <ancestoring@gmail.com> To: TGF Mailing List <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: [TGF] a delayed death certificate I just found a delayed death certificate.  I’ve not seen one of these before.  The death occurred 01 Oct 1907.  It was filed 23 June 1934.  I’ve seen plenty of delayed birth certificates  but not this.  I guess the family needed a death certificate for some reason.  What is really interesting is that this death certificate is VERY filled out.  I guess since they had 27 years to think about the answers to the questions they knew the full names of both parents and their exact birth places ☺ Michele The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I went to NIGR last year and it was a wonderful learning experience. They usually open applications up in January. I would recommend that you go online now and put your name on their list. They will notify you when it is time to apply. You won't hear back from them that they received your mail however, which makes you feel like they didn't get it. I put my name on there list several times last year. They take about 40 people. Diane On 10/1/2012 1:01 AM, transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. National Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 in DC > (mrsmurphy1@aol.com) > 2. National Park "industry," 1940 Indiana (Connie Sheets) > 3. Re: National Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 in DC > (Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 19:38:58 -0400 > From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com > Subject: [TGF] National Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 in DC > To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <EF53F530-B1D4-46F6-BC96-C5B2685CEC9B@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Would anyone happen to know when the sign up for the mailing list for the National Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 will come on-line? All I can locate is the 2012 info. I know it is probably very early, but I have to get planning and I would like to try to get into this in the spirit of my continuing education plan. Thanks! > > Janeth L. Murphy > Moyock, NC > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:00:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Connie Sheets <clsheets1@yahoo.com> > Subject: [TGF] National Park "industry," 1940 Indiana > To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1349049606.68592.YahooMailClassic@web122602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Several individuals residing in Franklin Twp., Pulaski Co., Indiana at the time of the 1940 census were recorded as laborers in the "National Park" industry. I'm thinking they were probably employed with the Recreation Demonstration Area program that became Tippecanoe River State Park and the Winamac Fish and Wildlife Area in 1943. Does that hypothesis sound reasonable to those of you familiar with the area, or are there other possibilities I may be overlooking? > > Connie Sheets > Phoenix? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:40:41 -0400 > From: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL" <Elissa@powellgenealogy.com> > Subject: Re: [TGF] National Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 in > DC > To: <TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <013201cd9f6d$630c6220$29252660$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > NIGR has a different system than other institutes because they can only take > the number of people that fit in one classroom. So sign up for their mailing > list now and in February they will send you the brochure. *Immediately* the > same day return the information they request (including a biography that you > can prepare in advance) and your check. Registrations are by postmark. > > At least this has been the system for several years. > > The Institute is wonderful for further understanding federal records. This > is not a beginner's course and some familiarity with federal records will > enhance your learning experience. There is nothing like getting instruction > from the top people who know the records and then putting that knowledge > into effect by conducting research right at the National Archives. I had one > of my best finds with the guidance of Marie Melchiori, an expert in military > records. Thanks, Marie! > > -- Elissa > > Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL > www.PowellGenealogy.com > www.GRIPitt.org > CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are > Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under > license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and > the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark > Office. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: On Behalf Of mrsmurphy1@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:39 PM >> >> Would anyone happen to know when the sign up for the mailing list for the > National >> Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 will come on-line? All I can > locate is the 2012 >> info. I know it is probably very early, but I have to get planning and I > would like to try to >> get into this in the spirit of my continuing education plan. Thanks! >> >> Janeth L. Murphy >> Moyock, NC > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 532 > *************************************************************** >

NIGR has a different system than other institutes because they can only take the number of people that fit in one classroom. So sign up for their mailing list now and in February they will send you the brochure. *Immediately* the same day return the information they request (including a biography that you can prepare in advance) and your check. Registrations are by postmark. At least this has been the system for several years. The Institute is wonderful for further understanding federal records. This is not a beginner's course and some familiarity with federal records will enhance your learning experience. There is nothing like getting instruction from the top people who know the records and then putting that knowledge into effect by conducting research right at the National Archives. I had one of my best finds with the guidance of Marie Melchiori, an expert in military records. Thanks, Marie! -- Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of mrsmurphy1@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:39 PM > > Would anyone happen to know when the sign up for the mailing list for the National > Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 will come on-line? All I can locate is the 2012 > info. I know it is probably very early, but I have to get planning and I would like to try to > get into this in the spirit of my continuing education plan. Thanks! > > Janeth L. Murphy > Moyock, NC

Would anyone happen to know when the sign up for the mailing list for the National Institute on Genealogical Research 2013 will come on-line? All I can locate is the 2012 info. I know it is probably very early, but I have to get planning and I would like to try to get into this in the spirit of my continuing education plan. Thanks! Janeth L. Murphy Moyock, NC

Several individuals residing in Franklin Twp., Pulaski Co., Indiana at the time of the 1940 census were recorded as laborers in the "National Park" industry. I'm thinking they were probably employed with the Recreation Demonstration Area program that became Tippecanoe River State Park and the Winamac Fish and Wildlife Area in 1943. Does that hypothesis sound reasonable to those of you familiar with the area, or are there other possibilities I may be overlooking? Connie Sheets Phoenix 

Many thanks to all who responded! The input helped me on two fronts: one, I feel encouraged by the educational choices I have already made and two, I have a whole new set of avenues to explore. What a great group this is! Janeth Murphy Moyock, NC -----Original Message----- From: mrsmurphy1 <mrsmurphy1@aol.com> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM <TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Sep 29, 2012 8:57 am Subject: [TGF] Recommendations for Educational Progression? I am a transitional genealogist and am hoping to make the leap to full time practitioner within a two year time frame. I've completed the Boston University Certificate Program, and continue to work on completion of the NGS Home Study Program (Graded). I'm wondering what my next educational step should be and am hoping for some input/guidance. I would love to be able to attend on-site courses, but that just isn't a feasible option for me at this point in time. Any recommendations for web-based educational programs that would enhance (rather than repeat) the programs I have already completed/am already enrolled in? I understand that there will always be some overlap in training courses. My intended areas of specialty are Civil War and Native American (New York State) research. Thanks in advance for any advice! Janeth L. Murphy Moyock, NC The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janeth said, I am a transitional genealogist and am hoping to make the leap to full time practitioner within a two year time frame. <snip> I'm wondering what my next educational step should be and am hoping for some input/guidance. To all of the insightful suggestions, I add "credentialing." Many of us look at this as an "eventually"-type goal. The process is also a wonderful educational opportunity whether or not it results in a credential on the first (or second, or third!) try. Best wishes, Charlene M. Pipkin, A.G.®

Congratulations, Daniela, and the McClelland Irish Library! Stefani Evans, CG Conference Chair National Genealogical Society 2013 Family History Conference Las Vegas, Nevada 8-11 May 2013 www.ngsgenealogy.org sevans@ngsgenealogy.org CG and Certified Genealogist are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used under license by associates who meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the Board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. http://www.bcgcertification.org/ -----Original Message----- From: Daniela Moneta <dmoneta@cox.net> To: transitional-genealogists-forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Sep 29, 2012 8:09 am Subject: [TGF] New McClelland Irish Library in Phoenix, Arizona Today is the dedication and gala for the McClelland Irish Library where I work. Festivities will go on until midnight with ambassadors, dignitaries, citizens of Phoenix, Irish music and dancing. We have the library all polished and clean and I will be sitting at my desk on the second floor, ready to tell people about our genealogy service. I can't believe that I finally work for a library where genealogy is considered number one! If ever you are in Phoenix, please stop by for a visit. Daniela Moneta, CG, CGL Genealogy Librarian McClelland Irish Library 1106 North Central Ave. Phoenix, AZ 85004 CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to add a few things to Harold's message. These have a little less to do with education, and more to do with your desire to become a full-time genealogist. 1. Writing a business plan is essential. I know this is one of the assignments in ProGen, but you have to keep up with it. A business plan should be a "living document." As you learn things that do and do not work in a practical sense, you should change your business plan to reflect your experience. 2. Definitely join APG and the NC chapter of APG. APG has made its GoToWebinar account available to chapters for meetings, and the NC chapter has made use of this if you are unable to attend every meeting in person. The chapter has a great membership, with wide and varied experience--not just within genealogy but also outside genealogy. The APG Virtual Chapter is based in the "Second Life" platform, so you have to be able to run that to attend any meeting. I cannot do so myself. (Or I got frustrated and gave up trying.) 3. Before taking the plunge into full-time genealogy, you should start by taking a few clients on a part-time basis. One of the keys to my success in transitioning genealogy into my full-time career was having an established client base grown over a few years of part-time work. Return/repeat clients and referred clients are a major part of my business. 4. Consider the resources you have easy access to when advertising your specialties. When I first started, my specialties included upstate (Albany) New York and Connecticut, because that is where my family is from and therefore where the majority of my experience lay. However, I was only one or two clients in when I realized that I could not remotely research these areas from Maryland in an effective and timely manner. There are certainly a lot more online resources available now than there were in 2005-2006 when I was getting started, but that still does not allow me to examine the original records in New York. So I spent months building a knowledge base in Maryland resources and records--the area where I lived, though I had never done any research there. Even today, though I now live in Delaware, the majority of my research cases are based in Maryland--I'm still only an hour from the Maryland State Archives and go there on a regular basis. More on 4--your desired specialties are the Civil War and New York Native American research. How will you market yourself in order to compete with professionals in the Washington, DC, area who have daily direct access to the National Archives' military collections (essential for CW research) or the professionals in New York who specialize in Native American research? This is not something you have to answer here but something you have to consider for yourself and include in your business plan before you begin your career. 5. Marketing is not just advertising. Marketing is establishing your business as a brand--that brand being your own professional reputation. The genealogical community is a relatively small world, and the professional genealogy community is far smaller. Every time you write or publish, every time you lecture, and indeed every client report that you send to a client constitutes marketing to a much higher extent than some might believe. Every time you post online, on the TGF list, on the APG members list, on a local genealogy list, on your blog, on a genealogy Facebook page... you get the idea. Building a reputation for research skill and knowledge of records and analysis is not something that you can intentionally set out to do. It is something that grows organically as you work. You can't be afraid to take advantage of the networking opportunities available to learn more--that is, don't be afraid to ask questions like you have done today, for fear of appearing ignorant or inexperienced. Everyone understands that no one knows everything. Intelligent and thoughtful questions are as respected as intelligent and thoughtful answers. 6. On education--I definitely agree with all of Harold's comments, but I want to highlight two of them. First, I want to second his endorsement of genealogy institutes. My first "national" genealogy event was the Institute of Genealogical & Historical Research at Samford University, in 2010. I could never afford to travel for education before then (and actually lost my job a month after registering, so I couldn't really afford it even at the time I went). My experience that week--not just educational, but also the opportunities for networking that existed and the relationships that were formed over that week--made me vow that no matter what, if I had to move the heavens and earth, I would never again miss IGHR. In 2011, I barely made it by the skin of my teeth, but I moved said heavens and earth, and bought the plane tickets to Birmingham less than a month before the Institute. But I made it, and took Elizabeth Shown Mills's Advanced Methodology course. Well worth every struggle. Second, I want to reiterate the importance of meeting people face-to-face. A lot of conversations simply cannot be held effectively by email. There is something to be said for being able to look people in the eye. Relationships formed in person tend to be stronger than those formed online. A lot of professional opportunities arise because of relationships built with other professionals. These opportunities may be as important as or even more important than those built with your own independent ideas and marketing. And they may be the difference between being successful in your career and unsuccessful. I hope this advice helped, and good luck with your career! Michael Hait, CG(sm) michael.hait@hotmail.com http://www.haitfamilyresearch.com "Planting the Seeds" Blog: http://michaelhait.wordpress.com CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Henderson Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:32 AM To: mrsmurphy1@aol.com Cc: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Recommendations for Educational Progression? Janeth -- Welcome to the list! Sounds like you are on a good path. A few thoughts: (1) In general, the further you go, the more you have to create, or at least mix & match, your own educational opportunities. It's always good to review and re-hear things you think you know about, but as you advance fewer of the general conference offerings will be as helpful as they once were. (2) As you get closer to going full-time, business knowledge becomes as important as substantive knowledge. APG has more webinars and discussions available now than before and they are business-focused. You may want to consider the ProGen Study Group. I benefited from it but at that time I had not done as much as you already have. ProGen is interactive and by breaking up the big book _Professional Genealogy_ it forces one to pay attention to one thing at a time and in depth. (3) Contrary to the opinion of some, there are many and increasing ways of learning without spending a week or more far from home. One has long existed: ordering recordings of relevant lectures from conferences. Besides free and paid webinars (Illinois has a series), there are free web sites, of which by far the best are Elizabeth Shown Mills's Historic Pathways and Evidence Explained, easily reached by googling. Finally there are five top-notch genealogy publications whose articles show how the best people have solved problems: NEHGR, NGSQ, NYGBR, TAG, and The Genealogist. If the subscriptions/memberships are too steep, use the library and the photocopier. (4) Angela McGhie's blog, "Adventures in Genealogy Education," is the most focused on this topic, but other blogs touch on it from time to time and they are free. (5) Various kinds of virtual groups are available or can be created. NGSQ discussion groups are organized by Sheri Fenley of California. APG has a virtual chapter if you are really too far from the NC one. If you can assemble a group of folks that will criticize one another freely and fairly (not always easy), you may be able to learn a lot about writing that way. (6) Having said all this, I realize that while I met many current valued friends on-line first, it does make a difference, when you can, to move heaven and earth and take a course like Elizabeth's Advanced Methodology at Samford or Tom Jones's writing or methodology courses at various venues. The courses are great but the people who made the effort to come and take them are your peer group and a week with them is worth a lot too. These institutes are a different animal from conferences -- more in-depth -- and while I enjoy both if I had to choose I would go the institute route. I'm pretty sure I've left some things out but I hope to make a blog post on this subject soon anyway, so hopefully by then I'll have remembered it or been reminded of it on here! Harold On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:49 AM, <mrsmurphy1@aol.com> wrote: > I am a transitional genealogist and am hoping to make the leap to full > time practitioner within a two year time frame. I've completed the Boston > University Certificate Program, and continue to work on completion of the > NGS Home Study Program (Graded). I'm wondering what my next educational > step should be and am hoping for some input/guidance. I would love to be > able to attend on-site courses, but that just isn't a feasible option for > me at this point in time. Any recommendations for web-based educational > programs that would enhance (rather than repeat) the programs I have > already completed/am already enrolled in? I understand that there will > always be some overlap in training courses. My intended areas of specialty > are Civil War and Native American (New York State) research. Thanks in > advance for any advice! > > Janeth L. Murphy > Moyock, NC > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competencyevaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. 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Hi Jaeth, To add to the wonderful suggestions you've already received: The North Carolina APG chapter holds their monthly meetings via GoToMeeting - so you can meet online with your local chapter members :) Craig Scott has a good independent study course on the Civil War available from NGS - look under their Online Courses. There are also a wide variety of online courses available through the National Institute for Genealogical Studies (http://www.genealogicalstudies.com) if you want to focus on specific topics of interest. When you can find a way to make travel happen, I would absolutely recommend attending one of the week-long institutes. They are the best thing I've ever done for myself in terms of genealogical education. Kimberly On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:55 AM, <mrsmurphy1@aol.com> wrote: > > Harold - thank you - those are terrific recommendations. I had not even > considered looking at state/local webinars and was not aware that there was > an APG virtual chapter - excellent! I was fortunate enough to participate > in Dr. Jones' evidence class at BU and am on the lookout for a live seminar > somewhere near the wilds of NC to attend. I like free and fair criticism - > toughens the character for the real genealogical world! Many thanks. > > Jaeth Murphy > Moyock, NC > >

I think that is a terrific point Michele. I just ordered the Intro Civil War CD from NGS with that thinking in mind. Thanks! Janeth Murphy Moyock, NC -----Original Message----- From: Michele Lewis <ancestoring@gmail.com> To: TGF Mailing List <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Sep 29, 2012 9:54 am Subject: [TGF] Recommendations for Educational Progression? Great post, Harold! I would add that if you want to specialize in a particular area (geographically or topically) I would investigate educations opportunities in that specific area as well so that you have a "niche" making you more valuable to other researchers. If you choose some area that isn't well represented in the literature then maybe you can author something as you do your research to learn more about it and that too will give you more credibility and authority in that area of expertise. Michele The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Harold - thank you - those are terrific recommendations. I had not even considered looking at state/local webinars and was not aware that there was an APG virtual chapter - excellent! I was fortunate enough to participate in Dr. Jones' evidence class at BU and am on the lookout for a live seminar somewhere near the wilds of NC to attend. I like free and fair criticism - toughens the character for the real genealogical world! Many thanks. Jaeth Murphy Moyock, NC -----Original Message----- From: Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> To: mrsmurphy1 <mrsmurphy1@aol.com> Cc: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM <TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Sep 29, 2012 9:32 am Subject: Re: [TGF] Recommendations for Educational Progression? Janeth -- Welcome to the list! Sounds like you are on a good path. A few thoughts: (1) In general, the further you go, the more you have to create, or at least mix & match, your own educational opportunities. It's always good to review and re-hear things you think you know about, but as you advance fewer of the general conference offerings will be as helpful as they once were. (2) As you get closer to going full-time, business knowledge becomes as important as substantive knowledge. APG has more webinars and discussions available now than before and they are business-focused. You may want to consider the ProGen Study Group. I benefited from it but at that time I had not done as much as you already have. ProGen is interactive and by breaking up the big book _Professional Genealogy_ it forces one to pay attention to one thing at a time and in depth. (3) Contrary to the opinion of some, there are many and increasing ways of learning without spending a week or more far from home. One has long existed: ordering recordings of relevant lectures from conferences. Besides free and paid webinars (Illinois has a series), there are free web sites, of which by far the best are Elizabeth Shown Mills's Historic Pathways and Evidence Explained, easily reached by googling. Finally there are five top-notch genealogy publications whose articles show how the best people have solved problems: NEHGR, NGSQ, NYGBR, TAG, and The Genealogist. If the subscriptions/memberships are too steep, use the library and the photocopier. (4) Angela McGhie's blog, "Adventures in Genealogy Education," is the most focused on this topic, but other blogs touch on it from time to time and they are free. (5) Various kinds of virtual groups are available or can be created. NGSQ discussion groups are organized by Sheri Fenley of California. APG has a virtual chapter if you are really too far from the NC one. If you can assemble a group of folks that will criticize one another freely and fairly (not always easy), you may be able to learn a lot about writing that way. (6) Having said all this, I realize that while I met many current valued friends on-line first, it does make a difference, when you can, to move heaven and earth and take a course like Elizabeth's Advanced Methodology at Samford or Tom Jones's writing or methodology courses at various venues. The courses are great but the people who made the effort to come and take them are your peer group and a week with them is worth a lot too. These institutes are a different animal from conferences -- more in-depth -- and while I enjoy both if I had to choose I would go the institute route. I'm pretty sure I've left some things out but I hope to make a blog post on this subject soon anyway, so hopefully by then I'll have remembered it or been reminded of it on here! Harold -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist andCG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification ofGenealogists® used by the Board to identify its program ofgenealogical competencyevaluation and used under license by theBoard’s associates.