Greg wrote: > I am working on the NGS Home Study Course and am using AniMap from Gold Bug Software to produce county maps for several states at different time points for the migraton study required in Lesson 11 of the course. I am at a loss as to what citation format to use. As an example, I am using the software to produce a map of counties in South Carolina in 1800. I am exporting that map to a gif file which I am then opening in Photoshop to edit, removing text I do not want and shading the county of interest. While the original map is produced by the software, the final has been edited by me. How do I cite this map? BTW, I have written the author of the software and obtained his permission to use the maps. >Any assistance would be appreciated. Greg, if you had made a notes from a publication and, for some reason, you wanted to cite your own notes? Would you identify whether you had used a pen, a pencil, or a keyboard to create those notes? No. You would simply cite your notes and identify the publication from which the notes were made. The same principle would apply to your adaptation of a published map. Elizabeth ------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com www.Facebook.com/EvidenceExplained

At first glance, I read it as Jerome. Zooming in on the image, I'm not as sure. Based on other names on the page (John, Joshua, Joseph), I do believe the first three letters are Jer. The last letter appears to be an n. -Elroy On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Robert M. Ankenbauer Jr. < robert@yesterdaysmysteries.com> wrote: > Folks, > > I need some opinions on an 1860 US Census from Worcester MA. I have > provided a link to the image. I am looking for assistance with the name on > line 8. I have the last name as Dasher, no problem. Unfortunately his first > name has been indexed two different ways and I'm not sure I agree with > either. I have tried to locate both indexed names and my variation in other > online records/ images with no real luck. > > I will tell you that the enumerator had a tough time with these folks as > you can tell by Edward Bowshet on line 2. > > *http://tinyurl.com/8j7m2xb* > * > * > Any help is appreciated! > > -- > Sincerely, > > Robert M Ankenbauer Jr > -Genealogist- >

On 10/3/2012 12:48 PM, Lisa McKinney wrote: > One of the things I learned in my 1940s Census research is that it was > the first one where the ability to read and write was a job requirement. > LOL! And even then, going by some of the ones I indexed, it seems that read and write "well" wasn't always in play! Karen Packard Rhodes currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida

I agree with Karen that this is a tough one. It looks like "Jerman," but the rampant misspellings cause me to wonder if the final letter could be an "h" and it is an attempt at "Jeremiah?" Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Karen Rhodes wrote: > > This is a tough one, not just for the handwriting, but the enumerator > couldn't spell very well. > > Look at line 14. He's spelled the name Izroll. It's probably Israel, > if you look at the other names in the list: Abraham (which took time to > figure out, it's so badly written), Joseph, and Moses -- all Biblical > names. So it looks like the first letter in your guy's name is an I. > For all the world, it looks to me like "Irmon," and the name was > probably Herman, but this guy botched it up royally. He sometimes makes > his r funny, too; viz. the name "Ezra" on the line above. That's the > best I can come up with, anyway. > > Enumerator errors can be amusing. My father-in-law, who was called > Marshall (which was actually his middle name) is listed as an infant on > the 1920 census as "Marsha." LOL! > > Karen Packard Rhodes > currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida > > > > > On 10/3/2012 11:58 AM, Robert M. Ankenbauer Jr. wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I need some opinions on an 1860 US Census from Worcester MA. I have >> provided a link to the image. I am looking for assistance with the name on >> line 8. I have the last name as Dasher, no problem. Unfortunately his first >> name has been indexed two different ways and I'm not sure I agree with >> either. I have tried to locate both indexed names and my variation in other >> online records/ images with no real luck. >> >> I will tell you that the enumerator had a tough time with these folks as >> you can tell by Edward Bowshet on line 2. >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/8j7m2xb* >> * >> * >> Any help is appreciated! >> > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a tough one, not just for the handwriting, but the enumerator couldn't spell very well. Look at line 14. He's spelled the name Izroll. It's probably Israel, if you look at the other names in the list: Abraham (which took time to figure out, it's so badly written), Joseph, and Moses -- all Biblical names. So it looks like the first letter in your guy's name is an I. For all the world, it looks to me like "Irmon," and the name was probably Herman, but this guy botched it up royally. He sometimes makes his r funny, too; viz. the name "Ezra" on the line above. That's the best I can come up with, anyway. Enumerator errors can be amusing. My father-in-law, who was called Marshall (which was actually his middle name) is listed as an infant on the 1920 census as "Marsha." LOL! Karen Packard Rhodes currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida On 10/3/2012 11:58 AM, Robert M. Ankenbauer Jr. wrote: > Folks, > > I need some opinions on an 1860 US Census from Worcester MA. I have > provided a link to the image. I am looking for assistance with the name on > line 8. I have the last name as Dasher, no problem. Unfortunately his first > name has been indexed two different ways and I'm not sure I agree with > either. I have tried to locate both indexed names and my variation in other > online records/ images with no real luck. > > I will tell you that the enumerator had a tough time with these folks as > you can tell by Edward Bowshet on line 2. > > *http://tinyurl.com/8j7m2xb* > * > * > Any help is appreciated! >

Folks, I need some opinions on an 1860 US Census from Worcester MA. I have provided a link to the image. I am looking for assistance with the name on line 8. I have the last name as Dasher, no problem. Unfortunately his first name has been indexed two different ways and I'm not sure I agree with either. I have tried to locate both indexed names and my variation in other online records/ images with no real luck. I will tell you that the enumerator had a tough time with these folks as you can tell by Edward Bowshet on line 2. *http://tinyurl.com/8j7m2xb* * * Any help is appreciated! -- Sincerely, Robert M Ankenbauer Jr -Genealogist- <http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=genealogist> Yesterday's Mysteries PO Box 51 Nutting Lake MA 01865 Visit My Blog <http://yesterdaysmysteries.blogspot.com/> Yesterday's Mysteries; Where your past comes to life! P Go Green: Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to.

On 10/3/2012 11:09 AM, Desta Elliott wrote: > [Desta Elliott] Did I disrespect the kind intentions of this list by > pointing out there is no distinction between the footnote or the endnote?? > Nah. The only distinction a lot of us see (including me) is the tedium of paging back and forth with endnotes. I've used them, and will (as a historian), but I despise the dratted things! I'm in the ranks of those who'd rather be able to just look down at the bottom of the page. Karen Packard Rhodes currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida

I'm inclined to go with "Jermon," myself. The first letter is similar to the capital I in lines 10 and 12, to be sure, but it's also similar to the capital J on line 1 (at least there's no mistaking "John" on that line). I vote for the "o" over an "a" because with all his faults this enumerator is pretty much consistent with the line coming off the top of his o and the bottom of his a (as we were all taught, but don't necessarily practice so well). The other possibility I see readily is "Junior" with the dot missing over the i. Dave Liesse On 10/3/2012 08:58, Robert M. Ankenbauer Jr. wrote: > Folks, > > I need some opinions on an 1860 US Census from Worcester MA. I have > provided a link to the image. I am looking for assistance with the name on > line 8. I have the last name as Dasher, no problem. Unfortunately his first > name has been indexed two different ways and I'm not sure I agree with > either. I have tried to locate both indexed names and my variation in other > online records/ images with no real luck. > > I will tell you that the enumerator had a tough time with these folks as > you can tell by Edward Bowshet on line 2. > > *http://tinyurl.com/8j7m2xb* > * > * > Any help is appreciated! >

I had the same reaction as Janis... Janis L Gilmore <janis.gilmore@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with Karen that this is a > tough one. It looks like "Jerman," but the rampant > misspellings cause me to wonder if the final letter could be > an "h" and it is an attempt at "Jeremiah?" >

[Desta Elliott] Did I disrespect the kind intentions of this list by pointing out there is no distinction between the footnote or the endnote?? -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Desta Elliott Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:18 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Footnotes with explanations I am not sure there is a distinction between footnotes and endnotes; just where they are placed in the document. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 537 ***************************************************************

Hmmm. "J" or "I" and then?? The first letter more resembles the "I" in the name in line 14, which is probably "Izroll" (Israel?) and line 15 "Ireland" than the "J" in line 15, John". Also, note line 11 on the next page, "Ira" The second letter has an extra half-loop beginning the letter, which then could be a "u". However, a few pages earlier, there is a Bridgit, where the "r" resembles this letter. (Page 139, image 58,line 3). In fact, if you look at the "Ireland" on the right here, the "Ir" is very similar. The second to last letter is probably an "o" or an "a" (note the "a" separated from the "s" in Dasher)and the last letter an "n". My guess is: Irman Which would be "Herman" Pat Dunford Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert M. Ankenbauer Jr. Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:59 AM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] Help with 1860 handwriting Folks, I need some opinions on an 1860 US Census from Worcester MA. I have provided a link to the image. I am looking for assistance with the name on line 8. I have the last name as Dasher, no problem. Unfortunately his first name has been indexed two different ways and I'm not sure I agree with either. I have tried to locate both indexed names and my variation in other online records/ images with no real luck. I will tell you that the enumerator had a tough time with these folks as you can tell by Edward Bowshet on line 2. *http://tinyurl.com/8j7m2xb* * * Any help is appreciated! -- Sincerely, Robert M Ankenbauer Jr -Genealogist- <http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=genealogist> Yesterday's Mysteries PO Box 51 Nutting Lake MA 01865 Visit My Blog <http://yesterdaysmysteries.blogspot.com/> Yesterday's Mysteries; Where your past comes to life! P Go Green: Please do not print this e-mail unless you really need to. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Phyllis, I'm able to bring it up now. It may have been a problem between my server and theirs. Thank you. Rondina On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Phyllis Garratt <pgarratt@gessert.us> wrote: > I am in there right now (United States records) viewing images and no > problems. It is actually loading very fast. > > Phyllis > > -----Original Message----- > From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Rondina Muncy > Subject: [TGF] FamilySearch problem > > Is anyone currently having a problem getting results from FamilySearch? For > 'Historical Records Collection' (digital images placed on the site) I > cannot > get pass 'United States' signed in. > > Thank you. > > >

Is anyone currently having a problem getting results from FamilySearch? For 'Historical Records Collection' (digital images placed on the site) I cannot get pass 'United States' signed in. Thank you. Rondina _______________________ Rondina P. Muncy Ancestral Analysis 4008 Linden Avenue Fort Worth, Texas 76107 682.224.6584 rondina.muncy@gmail.com www.ancestralanalysis.com

I am in there right now (United States records) viewing images and no problems. It is actually loading very fast. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rondina Muncy Subject: [TGF] FamilySearch problem Is anyone currently having a problem getting results from FamilySearch? For 'Historical Records Collection' (digital images placed on the site) I cannot get pass 'United States' signed in. Thank you.

For those who are also on the APG List, please excuse the cross-post. Tina, Had that very conversation with fellow G+ people in July after my last adventure out. Here is the link for the blog post for my cemetery bucket. Comments add to the conversation as well. http://lawsonresearch.blogspot.com/2012/07/cemetery-cleaning-kit.html Regards, Leslie Brinkley Lawson 5180 SW 198th Ave., Aloha, OR 97007 503-649-6679 or 503-848-3614 fax Lawson Research Services, LLC; http://www.lawsonresearch.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/LawsonResearch Twitter: @llawson3967 Member: President CAFG; APG, Oregon Chapter; GSG; NGS On 10/3/2012 12:01 AM, transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:55:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tina Sansone <gtownma@yahoo.com> > Subject: [TGF] Genea-tool Box > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1349236522.24370.YahooMailClassic@web121701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I am preparing for a future article/lecture. ?If you have a bag or briefcase that you keep your genealogical tools in, here is what I am looking for: > 1. ?Name or Anonymous2. Your Blog or Website - optional3. What is in your genea-tool bag4. ?What is not in your bag that you would like to add to it > Please email me your answers to tinahsansone@gmail.com > Thanks, Tina Sansone > Tina SansoneTN Genealogical Society, Vice Presidenthttp://www.tngsblog.orgGenealogy@Bellaonline.com > > -

I thought this would be of interest... http://creativesatworkblog.com/2012/09/freelancers-can-thrive-in-new-era-of-independent-workers/?goback=%2Egde_2877_member_171225752 Sincerely, Melanie D. Holtz, CG Holtz Research Services Melanie@holtzresearch.com www.holtzresearch.com

In a message dated 10/2/2012 "Desta Elliott" _d.j.elliott@comcast.net_ (mailto:d.j.elliott@comcast.net) wrote >I am not sure there is a distinction between footnotes and endnotes; just where they are placed in the document. Desta, it's the tedium of paging back and forth to endnotes to find the source for each assertion that I find frustrating. I would rather be able to just glance down to the bottom of the page for the information I want. That said, I do use chapter endnotes in a family history I'm writing primarily for family members, many of whom would be just as content with an Ancestry.com tree with no sources. They can't understand my idiosycarcies about matters they take to be common knowledge, as long as they've appeared in text somewhere. Their attitude is, "Why would somebody have written it, if it wasn't so?" Donn Donn Devine, CG Wilmington, Delaware, USA CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Footnotes are placed at the bottom of the pages of articles or books. Endnotes are either placed at the end of an article, or the end of the chapters or at the back of a book. Chuck Mason -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Desta Elliott Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:18 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Footnotes with explanations I am not sure there is a distinction between footnotes and endnotes; just where they are placed in the document. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am preparing for a future article/lecture.  If you have a bag or briefcase that you keep your genealogical tools in, here is what I am looking for: 1.  Name or Anonymous2. Your Blog or Website - optional3. What is in your genea-tool bag4.  What is not in your bag that you would like to add to it Please email me your answers to tinahsansone@gmail.com Thanks, Tina Sansone Tina SansoneTN Genealogical Society, Vice Presidenthttp://www.tngsblog.orgGenealogy@Bellaonline.com

OK, kind people. One more question before I put this all to bed for the evening. I am working on the NGS Home Study Course and am using AniMap from Gold Bug Software to produce county maps for several states at different time points for the migraton study required in Lesson 11 of the course. I am at a loss as to what citation format to use. As an example, I am using the software to produce a map of counties in South Carolina in 1800. I am exporting that map to a gif file which I am then opening in Photoshop to edit, removing text I do not want and shading the county of interest. While the original map is produced by the software, the final has been edited by me. How do I cite this map? BTW, I have written the author of the software and obtained his permission to use the maps. Any assistance would be appreciated. Peace, Part of the Tree, Greg