Someone posted something very disturbing on the Edgefield County, SC mailing list at Rootsweb. This is copy and pasted from the publically available archives on Rootsweb: "It came to my attention, at the last meeting of the Nevada State Genealogical Society that some tombstones found on Find-A-Grave, may not really exist. The wife of one of the Society members received a message through Ancestry that there was a tombstone at FAG for someone in her family tree. When she checked, there was a tombstone for her husband's great-grandfather. They had visited the grave in a San Francisco cemetery at Colma, and knew the grave had no tombstone. He called the cemetery, they confirmed the grave had no tombstone. He wrote to the submitter who was only willing to provide general information as to the location and finally stopped answering his e-mails. This individual has a website that offers find-a-tombstone service for a fee. The image did not correspond to the location of the grave, although the information on the fake tombstone was correct, it was incomplete. This and other clues indicate the tombstone itself was Photo Shopped. Another member told about tombstones in FAG for a cemetery in Virginia City, Nevada, where someone has posted photos of actual graves, along with biographical information and photos of the dead person. The problem is the biography is fiction and the photos are those of other people and were copied from the collection in the local historical society. My advice is to be very careful of the information you find on Find-A-Grave, and give it the same kind of scrutiny you should give any other genealogical information you find on the web." Call me naïve but I would have never suspected that people were photoshopping tombstone pictures for profit. I am sure that this is very isolated but still. Michele

Thanks, Michele. We can all use the reminder that photographs are not unquestionable truth, especially when it can be so convenient to think that they are. In more mundane realms of well-meant errors, many Find A Grave postings include information not found on the grave marker, and not otherwise sourced: that is, information the poster thinks they know but did not bother to explain why. These can sometimes be cross-checked against more careful or earlier readings of the same cemetery. But in the end there still is no substitute for primary information: being there or having a trusted friend or colleague be there for you. Harold On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Michele Lewis <ancestoring@gmail.com>wrote: > Someone posted something very disturbing on the Edgefield County, SC > mailing > list at Rootsweb. This is copy and pasted from the publically available > archives on Rootsweb: > > "It came to my attention, at the last meeting of the Nevada State > Genealogical Society that some tombstones found on Find-A-Grave, may not > really exist. The wife of one of the Society members received a message > through Ancestry that there was a tombstone at FAG for someone in her > family > tree. When she checked, there was a tombstone for her husband's > great-grandfather. They had visited the grave in a San Francisco cemetery > at > Colma, and knew the grave had no tombstone. He called the cemetery, they > confirmed the grave had no tombstone. He wrote to the submitter who was > only > willing to provide general information as to the location and finally > stopped answering his e-mails. This individual has a website that offers > find-a-tombstone service for a fee. The image did not correspond to the > location of the grave, although the information on the fake tombstone was > correct, it was incomplete. This and other clues indicate the tombstone > itself was Photo Shopped. > > Another member told about tombstones in FAG for a cemetery in Virginia > City, > Nevada, where someone has posted photos of actual graves, along with > biographical information and photos of the dead person. The problem is the > biography is fiction and the photos are those of other people and were > copied from the collection in the local historical society. My advice is to > be very careful of the information you find on > Find-A-Grave, and give it the same kind of scrutiny you should give any > other genealogical information you find on the web." > > Call me naïve but I would have never suspected that people were > photoshopping tombstone pictures for profit. I am sure that this is very > isolated but still. > > > Michele > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competencyevaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Kay -- In my experience, which includes neither Alabama nor Mississippi, the choice of paper for legal notices was determined by the government (court) involved, not the individual. The chosen paper at one time might be different from another, and the chosen papers had no guarantee of being preserved. Legal advertisements would not be like articles about sensational deaths or melodramatic events that papers might copy across the region or the country. If there were any less speculative way to approach the problem I'd probably try that first! Harold On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Katherine Rudolph <khrhome@yahoo.com>wrote: > I'm researching Franklin and Marion Counties, two burned counties (1890 > and 1883 respectively) in Alabama, and would like to review > newspapers that might have printed legal announcements in the > 1820s-1830s—I'm hoping for a probate notice that will confirm a > relationship between Isaac Taylor and his possible father, Robert Taylor > (whose last census was 1830 in Marion Co.). Yes, I know I'm grasping at > straws. > Chronicling America’s “US Newspaper Directory 1690-present” does not list > any newspapers published in Franklin or Marion Counties in this time > period, but I've identified seven papers that were published in surrounding > counties in Alabama and Mississippi. > I'm just not sure what to do next. Is there any way to narrow down which > of these papers would have been used by residents of Franklin and Marion > for printing legal notices? > I don’t have any idea what the date of death might have been, and am only > working on the assumption that Robert died between 1830 and 1840 because of > a rather elaborate house of cards I've built up based on evidence about > Isaac and two possible brothers (William and Simeon). > Any advice? > Kay Rudolph > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competencyevaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Thank you, Melanie, and all for the great organizational suggestions....can never get enough of those, nor the good humor! Also, the latest APG Quarterly's availability online was timely with some great articles on "productivity". I sense that part of the challenge is the type of the client load. A couple of the 6 or so projects I work on, time permitting, are southern families....you know, cousins marrying cousins and each family naming their offspring the same names, in some variation, for many subsequent generations. Whenever I step back into either of those 2, it's not so much tackling the next task on the project list but rather getting reacquainted with the rhythm of those families. They make my hair hurt...but in a good way! But maybe the relearning curve would be required whether or not I have other, less challenging, projects running concurrently or not? Mary E Hall Santa Barbara, CA ---- "Melanie D. Holtz CG" <melanie_holtz@hotmail.com> wrote: Mary, My way may be simplistic but it works for me. I keep a document for each client project within my iPad. In each document I make running notes, which is especially helpful when you are also managing the work of subcontractors. For example a current one reads, in part: 9-3-12 Salerno archives found document and requested 8 Euro by Western Union. Asked Michele to order. 9-6-12 Have report nearly ready to go. Michele checking marriage in Salerno before I send. 9-13-12 Client anxious so I sent first report. Send second when receive response from Salerno. As you can see, this helps keep the research on track. Also, if you write the report as you go along, the report can serve as a reference point when refamiliarizing yourself with the details of a project. Sincerely, Melanie D. Holtz, CG Holtz Research Services 7283-102 NC Hwy 42 W, #402 Raleigh, NC 27603 Melanie@holtzresearch.com www.holtzresearch.com > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:27:46 -0700 > From: mehall2@cox.net > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > CC: transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TGF] Concurrent client load > > I enjoy this transitional forum very much, as I've been encouraged to "go pro" and I'm exploring this option, at least part-time. > > My professional career is in finance, and as an independent contractor, I'm ever aware that each hour of our day is precious. Is there any experience based opinion on how to manage multiple client loads? I've undertaken a few projects - pro bono - and I'm finding that, not unlike my own genealogical research, I need to focus on each project one at a time or I'll lose my place and have to spend time again re familiarizing myself with where I am in the project. This wastes time. > > OTOH, it's not realistic to think one research intensive client at time is going to provide any kind of reasonable income. > > Thoughts? > > Mary E Hall > Santa Barbara, CA > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm researching Franklin and Marion Counties, two burned counties (1890 and 1883 respectively) in Alabama, and would like to review newspapers that might have printed legal announcements in the 1820s-1830s—I'm hoping for a probate notice that will confirm a relationship between Isaac Taylor and his possible father, Robert Taylor (whose last census was 1830 in Marion Co.). Yes, I know I'm grasping at straws.  Chronicling America’s “US Newspaper Directory 1690-present” does not list any newspapers published in Franklin or Marion Counties in this time period, but I've identified seven papers that were published in surrounding counties in Alabama and Mississippi.  I'm just not sure what to do next. Is there any way to narrow down which of these papers would have been used by residents of Franklin and Marion for printing legal notices? I don’t have any idea what the date of death might have been, and am only working on the assumption that Robert died between 1830 and 1840 because of a rather elaborate house of cards I've built up based on evidence about Isaac and two possible brothers (William and Simeon). Any advice? Kay Rudolph

Margie, I don't think you have an issue of comparative worth.. Greenwood is a college-level introductory text on methodology--how to use what you find in sources. The Source is a detailed reference guide to various sources, how to find them, and what they cover. Both need to be considered for effective genealogical research. Rubincam is focused more on sources than methodology, despite its title, and is important historically. However, its current usefulness is limited, considering developmentw of the past 40 years. Greenwood's 3d edition is still in print and available from the publisher, Genealogical Publishing Co. Donn Donn Devine, CG Wilmington, Delaware, USA CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. In a message dated 10/10/2012 mabeldin@gmail.com writes: Our plan is to read an NGSQ article of our choosing and pair it with a chapter in *The Source* or Greenwood's book that helps us better understand at least one kind of record used in the case study. My question is: Why does Greenwood's book seem to be valued over *The Source*? Does it really matter what reference book we read to expand our knowledge of records for genealogical research?

In this case, A.G.O. is more likely Adjutant General's Office ( the commander of the Army). You can read the list on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Adjutants_General_of_the_U.S._Army -Bryna O'Sullivan On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM, <AGilchrest@aol.com> wrote: > Michele, > > All government forms have a number and letters associated with them. The > letters are the department that printed the form. In this case I believe A. > G. O. may be Attorney Generals Office. > > Ann > > > In a message dated 09-Oct-12 20:17:07 US Mountain Standard Time, > ancestoring@gmail.com writes: > > This is a fill in the blank form letter. At the bottom it says Form No. > 638-2 A.G.O. if that means anything. I can scan it and email it to you > if > you want to see it. > > > Michele > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary, My way may be simplistic but it works for me. I keep a document for each client project within my iPad. In each document I make running notes, which is especially helpful when you are also managing the work of subcontractors. For example a current one reads, in part: 9-3-12 Salerno archives found document and requested 8 Euro by Western Union. Asked Michele to order. 9-6-12 Have report nearly ready to go. Michele checking marriage in Salerno before I send. 9-13-12 Client anxious so I sent first report. Send second when receive response from Salerno. As you can see, this helps keep the research on track. Also, if you write the report as you go along, the report can serve as a reference point when refamiliarizing yourself with the details of a project. Sincerely, Melanie D. Holtz, CG Holtz Research Services 7283-102 NC Hwy 42 W, #402 Raleigh, NC 27603 Melanie@holtzresearch.com www.holtzresearch.com > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 07:27:46 -0700 > From: mehall2@cox.net > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > CC: transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TGF] Concurrent client load > > I enjoy this transitional forum very much, as I've been encouraged to "go pro" and I'm exploring this option, at least part-time. > > My professional career is in finance, and as an independent contractor, I'm ever aware that each hour of our day is precious. Is there any experience based opinion on how to manage multiple client loads? I've undertaken a few projects - pro bono - and I'm finding that, not unlike my own genealogical research, I need to focus on each project one at a time or I'll lose my place and have to spend time again re familiarizing myself with where I am in the project. This wastes time. > > OTOH, it's not realistic to think one research intensive client at time is going to provide any kind of reasonable income. > > Thoughts? > > Mary E Hall > Santa Barbara, CA > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"I'm not writing it down to remember it later, I'm writing it down to remember it now." This should be included in my signature line. : ) Rondina On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Leon Zimlich <6500lzim@gmail.com> wrote: > Only just a little bit off topic, but apropos of writing things down is > this Pickles comic strip from 29 May 2012: > > http://www.gocomics.com/**pickles/2012/05/29<http://www.gocomics.com/pickles/2012/05/29> > > "If it ain't writ, it ain't." > > and this unattributed quote and marketing slogan from the Field Notes > notebook website: > > http://fieldnotesbrand.com/ > > "I'm not writing it down to remember it later, I'm writing it down to > remember it now." > > Leon > ----- > Leon E. Zimlich > 6500LZIM@gmail.com >

Only just a little bit off topic, but apropos of writing things down is this Pickles comic strip from 29 May 2012: http://www.gocomics.com/pickles/2012/05/29 "If it ain't writ, it ain't." and this unattributed quote and marketing slogan from the Field Notes notebook website: http://fieldnotesbrand.com/ "I'm not writing it down to remember it later, I'm writing it down to remember it now." Leon ----- Leon E. Zimlich 6500LZIM@gmail.com

Wow! What an interesting substitute for my ubiquitous "composition books" and their "all alike" black and white mottled covers. Thanks, Leon! Pat Dunford Tucson, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Leon Zimlich Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:22 PM To: 'TGF' Subject: Re: [TGF] Concurrent client load + writing things down Only just a little bit off topic, but apropos of writing things down is this Pickles comic strip from 29 May 2012: http://www.gocomics.com/pickles/2012/05/29 "If it ain't writ, it ain't." and this unattributed quote and marketing slogan from the Field Notes notebook website: http://fieldnotesbrand.com/ "I'm not writing it down to remember it later, I'm writing it down to remember it now." Leon ----- Leon E. Zimlich 6500LZIM@gmail.com The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dee, I think you hit the most important piece of advice that we can give Mary---don't try to keep it in your head. We don't keep our sources in our head---we write them down. We don't keep our conclusions in our head---we write them down. We don't even keep our grocery lists in our head---we write them down. I read David Allen's book *Getting Things Done* and now have a running list of everything. If an item needs several steps, there is a secondary list WRITTEN DOWN. Getting it out of our head is the point. It kind of unclutters the mind and you don't have to worry about forgetting. Even that 'Aha' you had in the shower. Rondina _______________________ Rondina P. Muncy Ancestral Analysis 4008 Linden Avenue Fort Worth, Texas 76107 682.224.6584 rondina.muncy@gmail.com www.ancestralanalysis.com On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist < king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > Mary, I feel for you. I think some of us are born multi-taskers and some > are not. I frequently work on 20+ Navy cases and one or more probate cases > all at the same time. > > I don't try to keep it all in my head. Instead, I make use of the > genealogy software, research logs, my personal notes, and source citations > so that I can come back to the same place each time. > > best regards, > > Dee Dee King > > > -- > Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 > Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch > Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute > http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html > Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 > Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 > www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html > www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist > > Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for > Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently > meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed > evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US > Patent & Trademark Office. > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I find that five or six clients is about what my plate can handle. I have some that need my home county research, some that need a neighboring county and some I do in Salt Lake City (although I have been known to do my home county in SLC too). It just depends on how you want to work. Sometimes you have to wait for something to come in or can put a couple of clients together who need the same repository (so they can share the travel expenses). You state a good reason as to how you like to work. Working back up to speed is not always a waste because you will see new things in the research when you revisit it after a break. In fact that is a piece of advice usually given when doing a piece of writing (like a report): put it away for a day or two and reread it. Best wishes, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Mary E Hall > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:28 AM > > I enjoy this transitional forum very much, as I've been encouraged to "go pro" and I'm > exploring this option, at least part-time. > > My professional career is in finance, and as an independent contractor, I'm ever aware that > each hour of our day is precious. Is there any experience based opinion on how to > manage multiple client loads? I've undertaken a few projects - pro bono - and I'm finding > that, not unlike my own genealogical research, I need to focus on each project one at a > time or I'll lose my place and have to spend time again re familiarizing myself with where > I am in the project. This wastes time. > > OTOH, it's not realistic to think one research intensive client at time is going to provide > any kind of reasonable income.

Good Job, Ann C Gilchrest A very well written article in the autumn edition of "Kentucky Ancestors" Vol 48, No 1 p 4 - 8, on her ancestor John William Uptegrove...[plus various spellings] Like the format with questions and answers. Well researched and presented in my personal opinion. Annette DeCourcy Towler With also many KY ancestors.

Michele, All government forms have a number and letters associated with them. The letters are the department that printed the form. In this case I believe A. G. O. may be Attorney Generals Office. Ann In a message dated 09-Oct-12 20:17:07 US Mountain Standard Time, ancestoring@gmail.com writes: This is a fill in the blank form letter. At the bottom it says Form No. 638-2 A.G.O. if that means anything. I can scan it and email it to you if you want to see it. Michele

Mary, I feel for you. I think some of us are born multi-taskers and some are not. I frequently work on 20+ Navy cases and one or more probate cases all at the same time. I don't try to keep it all in my head. Instead, I make use of the genealogy software, research logs, my personal notes, and source citations so that I can come back to the same place each time. best regards, Dee Dee King -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Hi Margie -- We have a couple of genealogy discussion/study groups sponsored by our local genealogy society (http://slocgs.org/interestgroups.html), one titled "Mentored Intermediate Genealogy Study Group," and the second called "Implementing Professional Standards: Advanced Genealogy Discussion." The second group has met for more than two years, and has been able to dispense with most planned activities. Although that group initially began with assignments/activities, we have evolved into a discussion format because the participants usually show up with more than we have time to address. This works REALLY well for the organizer because there is NO preparation. Occasionally (this happened recently), we sense things beginning to lag, and we then create an optional assignment. Right now, we are working our way through ESM's Evidence Explained QuckLesson Archive. All of the members of this group have been to advanced institutes and completed narrative client reports. The first group, the "intermediate" group, has only been meeting for about 6-7 months. In that group, we devote 3-4 months to each element of the Genealogical Proof Standard, working on a research problem from our individual family trees. Our references are *Evidence Explained*; *QuckSheet: Genealogy Problem Analysis* (ESM), *Evidence Analysis: A Research Process Map* (ESM), and the *Family Tree Problem Solver* by Marsha Hoffman Rising. Every month, participants bring in their research logs, footnotes, narratives, and so on for group discussion. Both groups focus on methodology over sources, although we certainly share new, interesting sources when we come across them. Your primary references (than the Q articles, of course), sound as if you may be focusing on sources. I DO think that the reference books that you choose matter. Do you want to focus on "source knowledge," relatively easy to obtain, according to Tom Jones? Or do you want to focus on "methodological knowledge," more difficult to obtain, according to Jones? Or both equally? A bigger question -- can you outline goals for this group? The content of this outline will depend on the goals, experience, and formal traning of your group members. Have they been to state and national conferences? Have they attended institutes? Do they subscribe to the Q? Cafi in California Hi, Several of us in my town have decided to form a study group loosely based on the NGSQ Study Group format. In all the information I have read (BCG, APGen, E.S. Mills 10-Points, etc) no one ever mentions reading *The Source*. Why? All of us (4) have *The Source* and I have both *The Researcher's Guide to American Genealogy* and *Genealogical Research: Methods and Sources, Vol 1 & 2* (which I notice Greenwood's book refers to from time to time) edited by Milton Rubincam. Only one of our libraries has a copy of Greenwood's book and, of course, it is a reference book so cannot be checked out. Our plan is to read an NGSQ article of our choosing and pair it with a chapter in *The Source* or Greenwood's book that helps us better understand at least one kind of record used in the case study. My question is: Why does Greenwood's book seem to be valued over *The Source*? Does it really matter what reference book we read to expand our knowledge of records for genealogical research? Thanks Margie in Washington State

Hi, Several of us in my town have decided to form a study group loosely based on the NGSQ Study Group format. In all the information I have read (BCG, APGen, E.S. Mills 10-Points, etc) no one ever mentions reading *The Source*. Why? All of us (4) have *The Source* and I have both *The Researcher's Guide to American Genealogy* and *Genealogical Research: Methods and Sources, Vol 1 & 2* (which I notice Greenwood's book refers to from time to time) edited by Milton Rubincam. Only one of our libraries has a copy of Greenwood's book and, of course, it is a reference book so cannot be checked out. Our plan is to read an NGSQ article of our choosing and pair it with a chapter in *The Source* or Greenwood's book that helps us better understand at least one kind of record used in the case study. My question is: Why does Greenwood's book seem to be valued over *The Source*? Does it really matter what reference book we read to expand our knowledge of records for genealogical research? Thanks Margie in Washington State

I enjoy this transitional forum very much, as I've been encouraged to "go pro" and I'm exploring this option, at least part-time. My professional career is in finance, and as an independent contractor, I'm ever aware that each hour of our day is precious. Is there any experience based opinion on how to manage multiple client loads? I've undertaken a few projects - pro bono - and I'm finding that, not unlike my own genealogical research, I need to focus on each project one at a time or I'll lose my place and have to spend time again re familiarizing myself with where I am in the project. This wastes time. OTOH, it's not realistic to think one research intensive client at time is going to provide any kind of reasonable income. Thoughts? Mary E Hall Santa Barbara, CA

Michelle, if you Google Form No. 638-2 A.G.O. you will find a couple of hits describing this army form. best regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <ancestoring@gmail.com> To: Dave@skingcoservicesllc.com, transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:11:52 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Confused by this form This is a fill in the blank form letter. At the bottom it says Form No. 638-2 A.G.O. if that means anything. I can scan it and email it to you if you want to see it. Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Liesse Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 8:51 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Confused by this form I certainly can't explain why the document was signed so late. In 1935 the military leaders had put together plans for a draft in case one was reinstituted, and I suppose it's possible they did a review of veterans and found that your great uncle didn't have any type of discharge. "The Discharge from Draft Form No. 638, referred to in Circular 651, was originally prepared for draftees rejected at camp after induction 'on account of physical unfitness, dependency, etc.' ... Had the Armistice not been declared, had respondent gone to Camp Dodge, and had he then been rejected for any reason there, he would have received not an honorable discharge from the Army, but a 'Discharge from Draft.'" (U.S. Supreme Court, Patterson v. Lamb, 329 U.S. 539 (1947), available at http://supreme.nolo.com/us/329/539/case.html). I had never heard of a Discharge from Draft, and this court decision is the only reference I've found so far. At least now we all know what it is! Dave Liesse On 10/9/2012 16:38, Michele Lewis wrote: > I have a "Discharge from Draft" for my great uncle (WWII). This copy > was found in my grandpa's papers. I am not sure why he had it but I > would guess he got the paper when his brother died in 1943. I am not > sure how to cite this paper. I've not seen one of these before. > > Also, the form states that he was inducted on 06 Sep 1918 and was > discharged on 23 Sec 1918 by reason of disability (doesn't say what), > BUT, the form is actually signed 27 Mar 1935! > > Given at Washington D.C. this 27th day of March, 1935 By authority of > the Secretary of War: Chas. C. Quigley, Adjunct General > > Why would they issue this document so long after the event? > > Michele > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message