The part of my collection that has actually made it to a bookcase isn't large, so I'm not really in need of any type of "organization," yet. I simply have them in an order that means the one on the end won't fall over! Dave

Elroy Davis <eveningmaple@gmail.com> wrote: > How do you all keep your published materials organized? If I ever get them re-organized after my most recent move, they will be grouped according to locality, general reference, surname (research binders and published genealogies), and non-locality periodicals. I then arrange each of these four basic groups as follows:  locality alphabetical by state, then by county within the state, then by record type. Reference alphabetical by author. Surnames and periodicals alphabetical. Not exactly the Dewey system, but as close as I care to get and functional for me;-) Connie 

Meant to send this to the list. > Karen, it's my understanding that you compose the report, using _Numbering > Your Genealogy_ by Curran, Crane and Wray as your guide, and then save the > report as a template for future reports. > > Bonnie Dunphy Kohler > South Florida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Stanbary" <karenstanbary@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:40 AM > Subject: [TGF] Word template for Genealogical Summary, NGS Quarterly style > > >> Does anyone have a resource for a Microsoft Word template that >> establishes >> format for the NGS Quarterly Style, particularly the Genealogical >> Summary? >

Have a look at the New England Historic Genealogy Society publication _Genealogical Writing in the 21st Century_ which contains the essay "Writing Using Word for Genealogy: Utilizing Microsoft Word in Genealogical Documents in Register, or Modified Register [NGSQ], Format" by Alvy Ray Smith. Smith's method addresses how to automate numbering and subsequent renumbering in genealogies. see Smith, Alvy Ray. "Writing Using Word for Genealogy: Utilizing Microsoft Word in Genealogical Documents in Register, or Modified Register [NGSQ], Format" _Genealogical Writing in the 21st Century: A Guide to Register Style and More_, Michael J. Leclerc and Henry B. Hoff, eds. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2006: 65-107. The essay was reprinted from articles in four issues of _New England Ancestors_ magazine which ran from Summer 2004 to Winter 2005. While Smith developed the method using Microsoft Word 2002 you may have success using it with other versions of the software. Good luck with it, Leon E. Zimlich 6500lzim@gmail.com On 11/12/2012 8:40 AM, Karen Stanbary wrote: > Does anyone have a resource for a Microsoft Word template that establishes > format for the NGS Quarterly Style, particularly the Genealogical Summary? > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't know about a template, but here is a tutorial by Alvy Ray Smith, updated February 2012, that explains how to do it: http://www.alvyray.com/NGStutorial/Word%20Genealogy%20Tutorial_v1.11.pdf Patti On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Karen Stanbary <karenstanbary@gmail.com>wrote: > Does anyone have a resource for a Microsoft Word template that establishes > format for the NGS Quarterly Style, particularly the Genealogical Summary? > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone have a resource for a Microsoft Word template that establishes format for the NGS Quarterly Style, particularly the Genealogical Summary?

Hello all- I've been helping a lovely person try to find her grandparents origins, pro bono, and we need help. Her father's family is from England. He was the only offspring or known family member to immigrate to North America in ~ 1920. She knows essentially nothing about his family, other than the immediate group (his parents and sisters). The areas in England we've uncovered so far are primarily South & West Yorkshire and Leicestershire. Her maternal family is from the Sonora region of Mexico, came across the boarder to Bisbee (Cochise Co) Arizona in the 1870's....the REAL wild, wild west era and place. They called themselves "Spanish" and "Argentinean", and from what I can find, I think this is true, at least in their recent history. (She did do a DNA test and her mitochondrial DNA haplogroup is B, consistent with a native American maternal line.) I've gone as far as I can with my limited subject matter experience in these 2 different areas. She would like to go as far back as "we" can go on her paternal line in England (yes, I know....), and confirm the story of Spain and Argentina origins on her maternal line. She knows that to go further, she will have to pay for help on her genealogy. Any ideas for gaining assistance? Please contact me directly if you have a personal interest or can provide a recommendation. Thank you! Mary E Hall Santa Barbara, CA mehall2@cox.net (805) 687-7403

Hello, Does anyone know if any federal records exist from the US Army companies that were part of the "Utah War" (http://www.historynet.com/utah-war-us-government-versus-mormon-settlers.htm)? My gg-grandfather who lived in Salt Lake wrote in his journal that one of his favorite childhood memories was seeing his uncle, James Mathers, who joined the Army in Michigan so that he could come to Utah and see his nephew and brought him some red boots. I would love to find something detailing James' experiences, and even better, proving that he was there. Thanks! Lori Lyn

For my own genealogical materials (those pertaining to my family), I use binders organized by individual or by married couple. I don't have my magazines and journals really organized yet, but as our daughter is about to close on a house, I will have an office and be able to organize my stuff more -- I hope! My books: The Dewey Decimal System! (I'm a former librarian). Karen Packard Rhodes currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida On 11/10/2012 1:50 PM, Elroy Davis wrote: > I was reading Michael Hait's blog last night, which led me to an archived > discussion here on the Transitional Genealogists list which discussed each > of the BCG standards one by one (the the blog and discussions are good > reading by the way). > > In the discussion of the first standard about how to handle research > materials, a couple of people mentioned trying to handle their own > collections better. > > This led me, this morning, to start going through my own collection to at > least sort it. I found that I mostly kept my reference books and magazines > separated from my photos and documents, but I didn't have the published > material in any sort of order. > > I've seen a lot of discussions about organizing documents and photographs. > I'm curious how other members organize their books and periodicals? After > sorting, I found that I had reference books (ProGen, Evidence!, etc.), > published genealogies, town histories, an autobiography written by my > great-aunt, my grand-father's high-school year books, and several > periodicals (American Ancestors, NGS Quarterly, etc.), as well as a series > of yearly Vermont almanacs from the 1800's. > > How do you all keep your published materials organized? > > -Elroy >

Roma, The Social Security Administration made a decision to pull death records from the Death Master File (what they call the SSDI) in November 2011. Your father's death might have been pulled if the information was given to the Social Security Administration by a state vital records office in a state with closed records. If a person dies in a closed records state, the Social Security Administration will publish the death in the DMF if the family rather than the state notified them. http://www.ntis.gov/pdf/import-change-dmf.pdf You don't mention where your father died, but this action immediately pulled 4.2 million deaths out of the file. The SSA stated that the decision will "add about 1 million fewer records annually." Yours, Barbara

I was reading Michael Hait's blog last night, which led me to an archived discussion here on the Transitional Genealogists list which discussed each of the BCG standards one by one (the the blog and discussions are good reading by the way). In the discussion of the first standard about how to handle research materials, a couple of people mentioned trying to handle their own collections better. This led me, this morning, to start going through my own collection to at least sort it. I found that I mostly kept my reference books and magazines separated from my photos and documents, but I didn't have the published material in any sort of order. I've seen a lot of discussions about organizing documents and photographs. I'm curious how other members organize their books and periodicals? After sorting, I found that I had reference books (ProGen, Evidence!, etc.), published genealogies, town histories, an autobiography written by my great-aunt, my grand-father's high-school year books, and several periodicals (American Ancestors, NGS Quarterly, etc.), as well as a series of yearly Vermont almanacs from the 1800's. How do you all keep your published materials organized? -Elroy

While we are talking about land records... Does anyone know of a good resource that discusses Land Contracts as a way of acquiring property? I have had several cases lately in which it appeared as though a land contract had been used (late 19th and early 20th century land/property transfers in Michigan). I don't know a lot about the process and therefore don't know what records would have been created (and thus should be searched for). Bethany Waterbury Ancestor Hound Research East Lansing, Michigan

The SSDI is updated weekly - but very few of the SSDI sites update their data weekly. Use GenealogyBank's free SSDI site - it has the best display of the information and is updated weekly: http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/ The Social Security Administration updates the SSDI as they are notified by state health departments and funeral homes that there has been a death. Once they complete their internal processes - the data on the deceased is added to the SSDI and distributed by weekly, monthly and quarterly updates. GenealogyBank is one of the few free SSDI sites that makes the extra effort to update their SSDI data weekly. Send me (privately) your father's name, death date and place and I can look in to it for you. Tom On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Roma Miller <romamiller@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Does anyone know how often the SSDI is updated? I've noticed that my father's information is not listed. He passed away in August. > > > > Roma Miller > Ancestors of Yesteryear > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bethany -- Please let us all know when you find it! I have not encountered this in genealogy, but in a previous life in central Illinois it was called "contract for deed" and the purchaser got no equity until he or she had fully paid the price (as I recall); not sure if the contracts were recorded anywhere. I suspect a lot of local variation in legal practice and terminology. If your counties of interest had WPA inventories of county records, you might peruse that and see whether there was a legal statement of what records of this sort were supposed to be kept and where. Harold On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Bethany Waterbury < bethanywaterbury@gmail.com> wrote: > While we are talking about land records... > > Does anyone know of a good resource that discusses Land Contracts as a way > of acquiring property? I have had several cases lately in which it > appeared as though a land contract had been used (late 19th and early 20th > century land/property transfers in Michigan). I don't know a lot about the > process and therefore don't know what records would have been created (and > thus should be searched for). > > Bethany Waterbury > Ancestor Hound Research > East Lansing, Michigan > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competencyevaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Does anyone know how often the SSDI is updated? I've noticed that my father's information is not listed. He passed away in August. Roma Miller Ancestors of Yesteryear

Has anyone done a big genealogy project with a company, person, or organization without doing a contract? I have client A the genealogists work on the project are the only ones who can see the information. It is a legit project, but considering who it is and what all is being involved I figured that a contract even a simple one would of been done. Yes I am going to do the work and I know I'll get paid, still there is nothing in writing about this. Just curious as I know some of you have worked for lawyers and have had larger projects before while I have not. I did not know if this type of thing that I was experiencing was common. This is actually my first non-contract work besides a few record retrievals and and volunteer record look-ups. Also I wonder if this is treated tax wise as any other client or something else. Would this depend how much I take it from this particular client? Yes I am thinking ahead. Amy

Hi Angela, Thanks for writing and letting me know about the classes offered. Elissa had written and told me about GRIP, but I was unaware of the land class offered at IGHR. I will check it out and start saving to be able to go to one of them. I do have the Hone book. It is wonderful! A great addition to my personal library - something I learned about in ProGen 9! This list is the best. Thanks to all of you and your comments this week on my part. It has really helped me and gave me a jump start when I needed it. Onward! Patty McIntyre On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Angela McGhie < mcghiefamilyhistory@gmail.com> wrote: > > Patricia McIntyre said: > > > > 2nd question: I have an interest in land records. I have used them some > and > > am intrigued about the information that can be available when researching > > them. Are there any good land classes out there? ... Are there other > options available to gain some in-depth training pertaining to land > records? > > For studying land records I would recommend the following book and courses: > > E. Wade Hone.* Land and Property Research in the United States. *Salt Lake > City, Utah: Ancestry, 1997. > > For in-depth training in any genealogical subject there is nothing that > compares to the genealogy institutes. Here are two courses on land records > in 2013. > > The "Advanced Land Research: Locating, Analyzing, Mapping" course with > coordinators Rick and Pam Sayre at the Genealogical Research Institute of > Pittsburgh (GRIP) in July 2013. The description from the website: "Land > genealogy is as important as people genealogy for overcoming family history > research barriers. This course explores land distribution in the current > United States by colonial powers, private land claims, federal land records > at both the National Archives and the General Land Office, and local-level > county or town deeds. Students will learn about the Public Land Survey > System and the metes and bound system. Course content illustrates the use > of land records to prove kinship. Use of software and Internet resources > for finding land records, mapping, and deed platting is demonstrated and > practiced in hands-on computer labs." > For a listing of the classes included and more details see > http://www.gripitt.org/?page_id=670 > [Disclaimer: I am an instructor for this course.] > > Another option would be the "Understanding Land Records" course with > coordinator Christine Rose at the Institute of Genealogy and Historical > Research (IGHR) at Samford University (June 2013). The description from the > website: "This course will include local land records, pre-federal land, > federal land, bounty land (Colonial, Revolutionary, and later), Private > Land Claims, and land platting." > See http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/IGHR_courses.html > > I hope this is helpful. > > Angela McGhie > www.genealogyeducation.blogspot.com > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> Patricia McIntyre said: > > 2nd question: I have an interest in land records. I have used them some and > am intrigued about the information that can be available when researching > them. Are there any good land classes out there? ... Are there other options available to gain some in-depth training pertaining to land records? For studying land records I would recommend the following book and courses: E. Wade Hone.* Land and Property Research in the United States. *Salt Lake City, Utah: Ancestry, 1997. For in-depth training in any genealogical subject there is nothing that compares to the genealogy institutes. Here are two courses on land records in 2013. The "Advanced Land Research: Locating, Analyzing, Mapping" course with coordinators Rick and Pam Sayre at the Genealogical Research Institute of Pittsburgh (GRIP) in July 2013. The description from the website: "Land genealogy is as important as people genealogy for overcoming family history research barriers. This course explores land distribution in the current United States by colonial powers, private land claims, federal land records at both the National Archives and the General Land Office, and local-level county or town deeds. Students will learn about the Public Land Survey System and the metes and bound system. Course content illustrates the use of land records to prove kinship. Use of software and Internet resources for finding land records, mapping, and deed platting is demonstrated and practiced in hands-on computer labs." For a listing of the classes included and more details see http://www.gripitt.org/?page_id=670 [Disclaimer: I am an instructor for this course.] Another option would be the "Understanding Land Records" course with coordinator Christine Rose at the Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research (IGHR) at Samford University (June 2013). The description from the website: "This course will include local land records, pre-federal land, federal land, bounty land (Colonial, Revolutionary, and later), Private Land Claims, and land platting." See http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/IGHR_courses.html I hope this is helpful. Angela McGhie www.genealogyeducation.blogspot.com

Hi, I am trying to figure what the best way to organize family research. I was wondering what you guys do with pedigree charts. I mean do you use one that start with you or do you do separate ones starting with different ancestors in few generations back such as a great grandparent to keep a good track of each generation? Not only I need tips, I also have a question for certification process that has something to do with these pedigree charts. There is a question where I can use my ancestors for the kinship-determination project except I cannot use anything on me or my sibling. I am refering to Ahnentafel generation chart, I am wondering if I should start the chart with my grandparent or myself for the kinship-determination project. I hope this makes sense. Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks!

Dear Glittering Gem (sorry, you did not sign your email), The Kinship Determination Project (KDP) is a BCG certification requirement where you demonstrate that you can determine how three generations are related to each other. Applicants may choose to do a lineage of three generations or go up a pedigree and discuss three generations. They may also do all descendants of a couple through children and grandchildren and naming the great-grandchildren. This only loosely has to do with a pedigree chart in that the chart would be an outline of the people involved in the KDP. Following the directions in the free downloadable _BCG Application Guide_ you have already noted that you or your siblings cannot be part of the KDP. Many people choose a branch of the family, or an individual and their kinships, that fascinate them. It can be from anywhere in your tree and does not have to tie to you directly. It does not even have to be your own family. As for format, please note that a pedigree chart is not what is being asked for in the KDP but a "clear, comprehensive format that follows the appropriate style--i.e, NGS Quarterly, Register, or Sosa-Stradonitz Systems." To understand these systems, please refer to the book, _Numbering Your Genealogy_ by Curran, Crane, and Wray. Best, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of GlitteringGem@gmail.com > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:55 AM > > There is a question where I can use my ancestors for the kinship-determination project > except I cannot use anything on me or my sibling. I am refering to Ahnentafel generation > chart, I am wondering if I should start the chart with my grandparent or myself for the > kinship-determination project. I hope this makes sense. Any suggestions will be > appreciated, thanks!