Amy, I am unsure if my earlier post arrived safely or not. I am currently giving away a 2012 version of FTM. I mistakenly bought the Windows version instead of MAC. I thought it would be a great drive for my blog and decided instead of a refund to conduct a giveaway. You can find the giveaway at Digging Up Your Roots<http://www.diggingupyourroots.us/celebration/> . -- Cathy von Hassel-Davies Searching: von Hassel Borchers Tighe Davies Blair Carter 336 405-8773 "In all of us there is a hunger, marrow deep, to know our heritage - to know who we are and where we came from. Without this enriching knowledge, there is a hollow yearning. No matter what our attainments in life, there is still a vacuum, an emptiness, and the most disquieting loneliness." -- *Alex Haley*, Roots On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:01 AM, <dunna@roadrunner.com> wrote: > I am using Family Tree Maker (FTM) 2010 and I needed a new computer. I > also have a large genealogy project as well. I was attempting to > use FTM 2010 as a way to keep all the various family lines straight. Sad > to say I am afraid I am afraid that I am going to spend most of > tomorrow morning creating Word documents trying to sort all this mess out > and hope FTM doesn't take delete any more of the project. > > FTM 2010 is technically working on Windows 8, but the following things > occur: > > --Person A is added as a child of Parents M & N who are not related to her > and the only option I have is to delete. > > --People are disappearing from the file. Yes I know I can delete > individuals or merge them, but this many. > > --It does not always go back to the last person I was on even if I did a > backup of it. > > I do not have time to recreate the file to see if there is a bug or if it > is corrupt. I've just never had this issue before with FTM and I > just thought I would let others know of the possible issue. > > Amy > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I also looked it up and received the same information as Tony Proctor. Cathy von Hassel-Davies Searching: von Hassel Borchers Tighe Davies Blair Carter 336 405-8773 "In all of us there is a hunger, marrow deep, to know our heritage - to know who we are and where we came from. Without this enriching knowledge, there is a hollow yearning. No matter what our attainments in life, there is still a vacuum, an emptiness, and the most disquieting loneliness." -- *Alex Haley*, Roots On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Nancy Wright <wright4766@bellsouth.net>wrote: > Would someone who has a subscription to the international/worldwide > Ancestry.com > please look up the marriage of George Lowrie and Janet Cowan. It is listed > as being recorded in Midlothian (Edinburgh) Scotland extracted parish > records. > > The marriage took place between 1798 and 1802. If there is a FHL film > number attached, please let me know what it is. > > This couple is my gr gr gr grandparents. > > Nancy Lowrie Wright > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --

You can search for name variants here: https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/NameStandardLookup.jsp On Dec 7, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Kim Ostermyer <kim_ostermyer@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Is Della a possible nickname for Huldha by chance? I have an abandoned picture that I'm working on and am trying to locate family members. > > Thanks, > Kim Ostermyer > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would someone who has a subscription to the international/worldwide Ancestry.com please look up the marriage of George Lowrie and Janet Cowan. It is listed as being recorded in Midlothian (Edinburgh) Scotland extracted parish records. The marriage took place between 1798 and 1802. If there is a FHL film number attached, please let me know what it is. This couple is my gr gr gr grandparents. Nancy Lowrie Wright

Nancy,   Try searching the FamilySearch catalog for the "Register of marriages of the city of Edinburgh, 1751-1800" which appears to be the item cited by Tony P. below. It's available on FamilySearch -scanned! It is 800 pages so it takes a while to load. Janet and George appear on p. 159. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have much more information than what Tony P. gave you.   Try this link - you may need Internet Explorer and may need to allow the file to load:   https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE518282   You could also try searching "Edinburgh marriage registers" in the catalog which may have some more leads. You should be able to find all the film numbers also if you still need them.   Let me know if any of this helps or you have any questions.   Tony L. --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Tony Proctor <tony@proctor.net> wrote: From: Tony Proctor <tony@proctor.net> Subject: Re: [TGF] Anestry.com World Subscription look up To: "Nancy Wright" <wright4766@bellsouth.net>, "TGF List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 12:27 PM I see the following but can't get any further details Nancy:       Text: Cowan, Janet; George Lowrie, labourer 27 Nov 1799       Book: Volume 5. The Register of Marriages. (Marriage)       Collection: Midlothian: Edinburgh - Register of Marriages, 1751-1800     Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Wright" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: "TGF List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: [TGF] Anestry.com World Subscription look up > Would someone who has a subscription to the international/worldwide > Ancestry.com > please look up the marriage of George Lowrie and Janet Cowan.  It is > listed > as being recorded in Midlothian (Edinburgh) Scotland extracted parish > records. > > The marriage took place between 1798 and 1802.  If there is a FHL film > number attached, please let me know what it is. > > This couple is my gr gr gr grandparents. > > Nancy Lowrie Wright > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And it may be that she just decided to use another name. My great-grandmother's name was Amanda Sarah Jane, but I have not seen that on any paper work from 1900 and after for her. For awhile she used "Desa," and then went to "Dulcie." The grandson of her oldest child said that his grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a male child) because he was "full of life." Since "Dulcie" means sweet in Latin, I figured she must have been on a Latin kick. And despite disagreement on the list about Lurancy being a form of Urania, I am convinced that they are the same person. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Sherry Chapman <sherry1chapman@yahoo.com>wrote: > You can search for name variants here: > > https://familysearch.org/stdfinder/NameStandardLookup.jsp > > On Dec 7, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Kim Ostermyer <kim_ostermyer@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Is Della a possible nickname for Huldha by chance? I have an abandoned > picture that I'm working on and am trying to locate family members. > > > > Thanks, > > Kim Ostermyer > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kim asked: >Is Della a possible nickname for Huldha by chance? I have an abandoned picture that I'm working on and am trying to locate family members. Kim, it's not a substitution I've personally seen. In my own family, Della is a nickname for Dulcena. Elizabeth ---------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for daily tips on records and records analysis: www.Facebook.com/EvidenceExplained

Hi all, Is Della a possible nickname for Huldha by chance? I have an abandoned picture that I'm working on and am trying to locate family members. Thanks, Kim Ostermyer

Thanks everyone. I think that even though FTM 2010 will technically work on Windows 8 that it is really not compatible with it. I had based the Compatibility on https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/win8/CompatCenter/Home where Microsoft says it does work. Anyway the compact file fixed part of my problem temporary. Looks like I will have to get FTM 2012. Amy

Amy, FTM2010 will work on Windows 8, as it does with Windows 7. I think you will find that the Compact File will help you in the future IF you experience this problem again. Russ ___________________________ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: "dunna@roadrunner.com" <dunna@roadrunner.com> To: TGF forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, December 6, 2012 1:07:29 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] FTM and Windows 8 Thanks everyone. I think that even though FTM 2010 will technically work on Windows 8 that it is really not compatible with it. I had based the Compatibility on https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/compatibility/win8/CompatCenter/Home where Microsoft says it does work. Anyway the compact file fixed part of my problem temporary. Looks like I will have to get FTM 2012. Amy The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm new here, and swore to myself I would listen longer before I dove in. But I just had to. I find land records so valuable! And websites are not great sources, but they can be incredible finding aids. First, a lot of big cities do have indices searchable by grantor/grantee. Just indirectly, usually through the county. When you head to the repository for originals, their indexing systems may be entirely different, but more information is available before you go there. You have to head for the government websites, and all are a little different. Detroit records, including recent ones, are searchable by name through the Wayne County Recorder of Deeds site. This then provides the liber and page number, the reception dates, entry dates, etc, for individual deeds. So are Chicago's through the Cook County Recorder of Deeds site (click 'search criteria'). That provides the 'pin number' to access the the history of the property and related documents as it changed hands. Lake Co IL also seems to have a friendlier and searchable site, but they wanted $5 for one day access. I wasn't willing to pay just to see what they did there.... For older land research, I have found the glorecords.blm.gov site invaluable! It is limited in that it only covers the original grantee/warrant/patent, and does not include the original colonies, or states directly derived from them. Different surveying scheme. But most of the country is included. Searches by name. And by then searching by township, range, section, etc, you can then 'map' the surrounding owners of your ancestor's property. I have found so many cousins, in-laws, old neighbors that moved to the same area.... ... Wasn't intended to be, originally, but this seems to be related to the "digging in anyway" part of Sarah's note. On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 18:50:09 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >I'm weird - I nearly started my genealogy with land records. I think they were >third after census and vital. Mainly because they were readily accessible - I >still have relatives in locations near over 200 years of ancestors. > >However, big city records - specifically Detroit and Chicago - intimidate me. In >both locations it is because they don't use grantee/grantor indices as the entry >point. Lake County, Illinois is similar (at least for recent records). Instead >they use a variant of the property description/property identification number to >index records. The intimidating part - if I knew the description I wouldn't be >looking!!! (At least some of the time.) > > >It would be great to have a list of locales that don't use grantee/grantor - and >then have a pile of folks attack making detailed instructions for digging in >anyway. > > -------------------- >Sarah A. V. Kirby >sarah@vandeventer.net (primary) >kirby-s@sbcglobal.net (alternate) >LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahavkirby >The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I can't help myself ... I must respond to this. As someone who has used Apple computers for 20+ years, I find that these kinds of issues rarely – and I really mean rarely – come up when I upgrade from one Mac computer to another. Or even when I upgrade operating systems. I don't know how you fix the problems you are having with Windows, but I urge anyone who needs to upgrade to consider getting a Mac instead. FTM finally has created software for Macs, so you should be able to upgrade flawlessly from one platform to the other. (A few years ago, when I got my first MacBook Pro, I sent an email to FTM to find out how to get the Mac software. At the time, I was told that they had absolutely no plans to make the software available for Mac users. Apparently, they realized their mistake.) Yes, Macs ARE more expensive, but when you consider how often you have to get your PC "debugged" and replaced because of viruses and other malware, and how much you spend on so-called "anti-virus" software – in the long run, you will actually spend less money. I got my husband to get an iMac when his Hewlitt-Packard computer started acting up. He was hesitant, because there is a bit of a learning curve as the system is a bit different. But Macs are really more intuitive -- it doesn't take long to learn how to use them. It's been 4 years; his iMac runs as fast now as it did when we bought it, and he's never had to take it in to have it repaired or virus-scanned. He's not anything near being a computer whiz, but he's convinced and will never go back to a PC. Just so you know, while I SHOULD be getting some kind of commission from Apple (I've sent many people over to "the other side"), I don't. I just really believe in the product. Phyllis McLaughlin Editor, APG eNews On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Kimberly Nagy wrote: > I am having similar issues with FTM 2010 but on my windows 7 > laptop. I > look forward to suggestions others may have on how to fix this. > Kimberly Nagy > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM, <dunna@roadrunner.com> wrote: > >> I am using Family Tree Maker (FTM) 2010 and I needed a new >> computer. I >> also have a large genealogy project as well. I was attempting to >> use FTM 2010 as a way to keep all the various family lines >> straight. Sad >> to say I am afraid I am afraid that I am going to spend most of >> tomorrow morning creating Word documents trying to sort all this >> mess out >> and hope FTM doesn't take delete any more of the project. >> >> FTM 2010 is technically working on Windows 8, but the following >> things >> occur: >> >> --Person A is added as a child of Parents M & N who are not related >> to her >> and the only option I have is to delete. >> >> --People are disappearing from the file. Yes I know I can delete >> individuals or merge them, but this many. >> >> --It does not always go back to the last person I was on even if I >> did a >> backup of it. >> >> I do not have time to recreate the file to see if there is a bug or >> if it >> is corrupt. I've just never had this issue before with FTM and I >> just thought I would let others know of the possible issue. >> >> Amy >> >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a >> supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they >> transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this >> list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a > supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as > they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind > intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Mary The Kentucky Secretary of State office has most, if not all, of the KY and pre-KY Virginia records: http://www.sos.ky.gov/land/ To do metes and bounds, I use multiple programs, depending on my needs. The first is Deed Mapper from Direct Line http://directlinesoftware.com/ . This is essentially a drafting program you install on your computer, where you can enter plats and place them on various topo or other maps. There is good support via a mail-list. By the way, the new version works on Win7 - 64. Others are "Deed Platter" http://www.genealogytools.net/deeds/ and http://www.tractplotter.com/ http://map-pass.mytopo.com/index.asp is a subscription service that allows you place plats on modern day maps easily. I was able to plat several neighboring plats easily, in some hilly country. Both Deed Mapper and Map-Pass have fees attached. One particularly nice thing about Deed Mapper is that many people have uploaded their compilations of maps to the website, especially for Virginia and some for Kentucky, which is very helpful. Saves time if "yours" are already platted. Hope you enjoy this foray into mapping! Pat Dunford Tucson, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary E Hall Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:48 AM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] Bounty land "warrants", neighborhood maps The discussion on land records was timely as I've had a couple of people ask me about Bounty land warrants, and if we could get the original records if we have a warrant "number" or other reference (like bundle)? One warrant is in Kentucky (issued from Virginia) and the other is in Tennessee, issued from either North or South Carolina. Assuming these records still exist, would they be at the respective state archives or a national repository (NARA) or ? (I imagine Greenwood's book cover this...it's on my Christmas list!) Also, I'd like to be able to fairly quickly create maps showing neighboring property owned in the metes & bounds system. There's nothing like seeing who owned property near your people through the years. The neighbors are usually referenced as part of the border description but I struggle with tying them all together on one map. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am having similar issues with FTM 2010 but on my windows 7 laptop. I look forward to suggestions others may have on how to fix this. Kimberly Nagy On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM, <dunna@roadrunner.com> wrote: > I am using Family Tree Maker (FTM) 2010 and I needed a new computer. I > also have a large genealogy project as well. I was attempting to > use FTM 2010 as a way to keep all the various family lines straight. Sad > to say I am afraid I am afraid that I am going to spend most of > tomorrow morning creating Word documents trying to sort all this mess out > and hope FTM doesn't take delete any more of the project. > > FTM 2010 is technically working on Windows 8, but the following things > occur: > > --Person A is added as a child of Parents M & N who are not related to her > and the only option I have is to delete. > > --People are disappearing from the file. Yes I know I can delete > individuals or merge them, but this many. > > --It does not always go back to the last person I was on even if I did a > backup of it. > > I do not have time to recreate the file to see if there is a bug or if it > is corrupt. I've just never had this issue before with FTM and I > just thought I would let others know of the possible issue. > > Amy > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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I too agree with the value of Greenwood's text. When I committed to being a professional, I read this cover to cover. Mara Fein, PhD, CG(SM) mfein@ancestrywest.com www.ancestrywest.com 310-487-5150 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board's associates.

I too agree with the importance of Greenwood's text. When I committed

Amy I hear your pain. Can you clarify whether these issues started immediately after you installed FTM 2010 on your new Windows 8 computer? It sounds to me like the ftm data file has been corrupted. Have you tried opening a backup file or an earlier version of your data file, that was created before upgrading your computer? Are the issues still present? If you haven't got backups, I sympathise and I'll plug my ears while you scream. Sometimes a file can be repaired by running 'Compact file' on the 'Tools' menu. Sue Adams Family Folk Blog: http://familyfolklore.wordpress.com/ On 05/12/2012 05:01, dunna@roadrunner.com wrote: > I am using Family Tree Maker (FTM) 2010 and I needed a new computer. I also have a large genealogy project as well. I was attempting to > use FTM 2010 as a way to keep all the various family lines straight. Sad to say I am afraid I am afraid that I am going to spend most of > tomorrow morning creating Word documents trying to sort all this mess out and hope FTM doesn't take delete any more of the project. > > FTM 2010 is technically working on Windows 8, but the following things occur: > > --Person A is added as a child of Parents M & N who are not related to her and the only option I have is to delete. > > --People are disappearing from the file. Yes I know I can delete individuals or merge them, but this many. > > --It does not always go back to the last person I was on even if I did a backup of it. > > I do not have time to recreate the file to see if there is a bug or if it is corrupt. I've just never had this issue before with FTM and I > just thought I would let others know of the possible issue. > > Amy > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The discussion on land records was timely as I've had a couple of people ask me about Bounty land warrants, and if we could get the original records if we have a warrant "number" or other reference (like bundle)? One warrant is in Kentucky (issued from Virginia) and the other is in Tennessee, issued from either North or South Carolina. Assuming these records still exist, would they be at the respective state archives or a national repository (NARA) or ? (I imagine Greenwood's book cover this...it's on my Christmas list!) Also, I'd like to be able to fairly quickly create maps showing neighboring property owned in the metes & bounds system. There's nothing like seeing who owned property near your people through the years. The neighbors are usually referenced as part of the border description but I struggle with tying them all together on one map.