Dave, I list the birth and death with the actual town where the event took place.  I also include a separate entry with the same date as the birth and/or death, listed as RESIDENCE, and then list the home address with city & state.  That way I have all the information I actually need.  I know where to look for the birth or death certificate and where to look for employment, school, tax, or voting records. Barbara Munson ________________________________ From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before!  I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth.  Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth?  It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents.  And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred?  The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave, I always list the physical location of the event.  If the birth or death was in a hospital, then I list the city or town the hospital was located in (or whatever facility the event happened in).   The person's residence can yield clues to school enumerations or records, tax records, land records, census records, etc.   But the birth or death location is where it occurred.   Cheryl Proctor Southern Indiana ________________________________ From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before!  I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth.  Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth?  It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents.  And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred?  The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, the card entry in the Pension Application Files indicates that your target person was issued a Bounty Land Warrant pursuant to his service. The numbers are the Congressional Bounty Land Warrant number, 12, and the "450" indicates 450 acres. The Congressional Bounty Land documents were burned in one of the series of fires in Washington, DC, beginning during the War of 1812. The applications for them and nearly all papers relating to them do not survive. If there were a pension application under this person's service, the same card in the Pension Application Files would give the pension number (beginning with an S or W depending upon whether it was the veteran or his widow applying) at upper right. The pension application papers would immediately follow the card with the BLWt entry. The entry as you give it suggests that your target person may have died during the War. Many veterans did not leave widows who survived long enough to apply for and collect the Congressional pensions to which they were entitled under legislation in the 1830s. However, if the man was a Continental Army officer and died during the war, it is possible that a special bill in Congress may have allocated funds for such an officer's widow. If the deceased officer were from Virginia, a widow may have received the half-pay for seven years for which the veteran may have been eligible had he survived. Papers regarding State pensions are not included with the Congressional Pension Application Files. Most such Bounty Land Warrants were sold by their recipients soon after they received them. The Warrants were promises that the holder could claim s pecified acreage (say, 450 acres) in the geographical area governed by the State under which the veteran served. A MD veteran's Warrant could be used to claim land in the area set aside by that state, a VA veteran's Warrant could be used to claim land in KY or in the VA Military District in Ohio -- though there were other special arrangements made for land claims for particular situations: some States did not have land to allocate. The BLWts were not "for" specific land at the time they were issued. Neither Congress nor the States had any idea what land might exist to fulfill the promise. New York did not take possession of the Military Tracts for which its soldiers' BLWts were used until 1794, for example, and Massachusetts did not make land available for most of its veterans' claims until the 1830s. So what transpired with your target person's land entitlement depends much on what State he served from. Good hunting, Judy ************************************ Janeth writes: Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant?

Imho, use both, but differentiate which is which. It gives a more complete picture of the family at the time. Out here in the plains, even today, many rural doctors and hospitals don't provide obstetrical services, so women come into the larger towns and cities to deliver their babies. Same with deaths. My father-in-law died in Oklahoma City at the hospital where his heart operation took place, but he lived and was buried in Holdenville, OK, about 80 miles east of OKC.   Mary Clement Douglass Transcribing & publishing Kansas genealogical records Have lectures, Will travel! URL: www.historical-matters.com   "If you can’t get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you’d best teach it to dance." – George Bernard Shaw ________________________________ From: Dave Robison <dave@oldbones.co> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:00 PM Subject: [TGF] "Born in" or "Lived in" Although I've been researching my family and the families of others for a number of years, I have a very basic question which, for some reason, I've never asked before!  I am truly a "Transitional Genealogist" and I'd like to know how to list where a child is born in the case of a hospital birth.  Is it in city or town where the hospital is (or was) located or is it in the location where the mother lived at the time of the birth?  It's clear in the case of home births, but in modern times, obviously, the hospitals are often not located in the same place as the residence of the parents.  And the same with hospital deaths.which location is preferred?  The hospital location or the residence. Thanks! Dave Robison The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

BLM means Bureau of Land Management. The reference you saw refers to the fact that the Bounty Land application file was destroyed by fire in one of two fires in 1800 and 1814. The answer to your question lies in tracing down other bounty land records that are extant - warrants, patents if it was approved, etc. I suspect by now you have received many answers to your question for I get the messages by blocks, but if you don't get any answers, email to me. Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-request <transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 12:53 am Subject: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 651 The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. Today's Topics: 1. Revolutionary War Pension File Question (mrsmurphy1@aol.com) 2. Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question (mrsmurphy1@aol.com) 3. Re: Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question (John Yates) 4. Re: Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? [Cumi] (idamc@seanet.com) 5. Re: Vivian (idamc@seanet.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:13:02 -0500 From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com Subject: [TGF] Revolutionary War Pension File Question To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <2F68AB29-3A5D-49CE-B22E-FBBD0F888383@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! Janeth Murphy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:37:28 -0500 From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com Subject: [TGF] Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <64D36087-8CBF-4FF0-BEE0-BF01DA8D564C@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii After staring at this for a few hours, I realize my mistake on the notations. It is not B.L.M. but rather B.L.Wt. Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant? Thanks again Janeth Murphy > From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com > Date: December 11, 2012, 2:13:02 PM EST > To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Subject: Revolutionary War Pension File Question > > I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! > > Janeth Murphy > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:02:23 -0500 From: John Yates <john@jytangledweb.org> Subject: Re: [TGF] Correction - Revolutionary War Pension File Question To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <50C7C98F.2020806@jytangledweb.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Janeth, I have a copy of "Index of Revolutionary War Pension Applications in the National Archives", Bicentennial Edition (hasn't changed much since!). (includes BLWts). If you let us know the Patriot name I'll look him up. John On 12/11/2012 4:37 PM, mrsmurphy1@aol.com wrote: > After staring at this for a few hours, I realize my mistake on the notations. It is not B.L.M. but rather B.L.Wt. Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant? Thanks again > > Janeth Murphy > > > >> From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com >> Date: December 11, 2012, 2:13:02 PM EST >> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Revolutionary War Pension File Question >> >> I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! >> >> Janeth Murphy >> > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: idamc@seanet.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? [Cumi] To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <49756.71.212.125.201.1355288941.squirrel@wm.seanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 S. Rankin has hit the nail on the head with Cumi. Pat Dunford suggested a mistranscription of Curry. Lower-case M is hard to distinguish from 2 Rs in some handwriting. Curry/Currie is a surname that could be used as a middle name. It was the first explanation that occurred to me, also. However, in my opinion, Cumi is what was intended for Stephany's Cumy. It is not the name of a person in the Bible but rather a command in the Aramaic language: "arise!" Jesus said "cumi" to Jairus's daughter (Mark 5:22-24,35-43 and Matthew 9:25). Peter also said "cumi" to Tabitha (Acts 9:36-41). Tabitha is an Aramaic name which translates as Dorcas in Greek, as Luke the author of Acts said (translates as Gazelle in English). Thus Tabitha and Dorcas are considered the same name in genealogy. For example, a girl could be named Dorcas after a relative named Tabitha. --Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, Seattle -------------------------------- S. Rankin wrote: I have one relative who was named Martha Cumi Daniel, and in this case it was a given name, not a surname. -------------------------------- Stephany Berry asked: Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:19:50 -0800 (PST) From: idamc@seanet.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Vivian To: "'Transitional Genealogists forum'" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <49779.71.212.125.201.1355289590.squirrel@wm.seanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Patricia Hobbs wrote: "The grandson of her oldest child said that his grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a male child) because he was "full of life ----------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills replied: It might help someone to note here that Vivian was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne. ------------ Ida Skarson McCormick replies: Vivianus was a saint's name in ancient Roman times. The Normans brought it as a surname Vivian to England. It morphed into such surnames as Vidgeon, Fidgeon, Phythian, Fithian, Fithen, etc. Vivian became used as a male given name, then as a female given name. It's just another takeover like Shirley and Beverly. ------------------------------ End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 651 ***************************************************************

The secular name of the former Israeli President Chaim Herzog was Vivian. Israel Pickholtz Jerusalem On 12 Dec 2012 at 1:00, transitional-genealogists-forum- request@roTRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Is wrote: > Patricia Hobbs wrote: "The grandson of her oldest child said that his > grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a > male child) because he was "full of life ----------------- Elizabeth > Shown Mills replied: It might help someone to note here that Vivian > was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne.

I have a distant cousin in my family that was named "Cumi Eunice." I thought it was a strange name but it was spelled the same in several locations and someone I met that knew her. She was born in 1910 in Florida.   Lori Cook-Folger From: "idamc@seanet.com" <idamc@seanet.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [TGF] Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? [Cumi] S. Rankin has hit the nail on the head with Cumi. Pat Dunford suggested a mistranscription of Curry. Lower-case M is hard to distinguish from 2 Rs in some handwriting. Curry/Currie is a surname that could be used as a middle name. It was the first explanation that occurred to me, also. However, in my opinion, Cumi is what was intended for Stephany's Cumy. It is not the name of a person in the Bible but rather a command in the Aramaic language: "arise!" Jesus said "cumi" to Jairus's daughter (Mark 5:22-24,35-43 and Matthew 9:25). Peter also said "cumi" to Tabitha (Acts 9:36-41). Tabitha is an Aramaic name which translates as Dorcas in Greek, as Luke the author of Acts said (translates as Gazelle in English). Thus Tabitha and Dorcas are considered the same name in genealogy. For example, a girl could be named Dorcas after a relative named Tabitha. --Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, Seattle -------------------------------- S. Rankin wrote: I have one relative who was named Martha Cumi Daniel, and in this case it was a given name, not a surname. -------------------------------- Stephany Berry asked: Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Patricia Hobbs wrote: "The grandson of her oldest child said that his grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a male child) because he was "full of life ----------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills replied: It might help someone to note here that Vivian was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne. ------------ Ida Skarson McCormick replies: Vivianus was a saint's name in ancient Roman times. The Normans brought it as a surname Vivian to England. It morphed into such surnames as Vidgeon, Fidgeon, Phythian, Fithian, Fithen, etc. Vivian became used as a male given name, then as a female given name. It's just another takeover like Shirley and Beverly.

S. Rankin has hit the nail on the head with Cumi. Pat Dunford suggested a mistranscription of Curry. Lower-case M is hard to distinguish from 2 Rs in some handwriting. Curry/Currie is a surname that could be used as a middle name. It was the first explanation that occurred to me, also. However, in my opinion, Cumi is what was intended for Stephany's Cumy. It is not the name of a person in the Bible but rather a command in the Aramaic language: "arise!" Jesus said "cumi" to Jairus's daughter (Mark 5:22-24,35-43 and Matthew 9:25). Peter also said "cumi" to Tabitha (Acts 9:36-41). Tabitha is an Aramaic name which translates as Dorcas in Greek, as Luke the author of Acts said (translates as Gazelle in English). Thus Tabitha and Dorcas are considered the same name in genealogy. For example, a girl could be named Dorcas after a relative named Tabitha. --Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, Seattle -------------------------------- S. Rankin wrote: I have one relative who was named Martha Cumi Daniel, and in this case it was a given name, not a surname. -------------------------------- Stephany Berry asked: Has anyone heard of the name Cumy?

Janeth, I have a copy of "Index of Revolutionary War Pension Applications in the National Archives", Bicentennial Edition (hasn't changed much since!). (includes BLWts). If you let us know the Patriot name I'll look him up. John On 12/11/2012 4:37 PM, mrsmurphy1@aol.com wrote: > After staring at this for a few hours, I realize my mistake on the notations. It is not B.L.M. but rather B.L.Wt. Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant? Thanks again > > Janeth Murphy > > > >> From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com >> Date: December 11, 2012, 2:13:02 PM EST >> To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Revolutionary War Pension File Question >> >> I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! >> >> Janeth Murphy >> > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

After staring at this for a few hours, I realize my mistake on the notations. It is not B.L.M. but rather B.L.Wt. Would this mean that it was not in fact a pension application, but only a bounty land warrant? Thanks again Janeth Murphy > From: mrsmurphy1@aol.com > Date: December 11, 2012, 2:13:02 PM EST > To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Subject: Revolutionary War Pension File Question > > I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! > > Janeth Murphy >

I am hoping someone here with some expertise with these pensions can help. I am assisting someone with research and was able to locate the person of interest. However, all I was able to locate was a jacket with the following notation: "B.L.M. 12.450.Lt-Co Issued Mar. 8. 1782. No papers." All I think I can make out of this is that he was a Lt. Col (which we know he was) who received his pension 08 March 1792 and that 12.450 is his pension number. Does anyone know what the BLM means? There are no papers in the jacket. Could BLM mean Bureau of Land Management? I am at a loss to know where to go to try to find the documents since they are apparently not in the file - at least according to this microfilm scan at Fold3. Any help most appreciated! Janeth Murphy

Stephany This "may" be one of those "transcription errors." With the "m" in script, especially that long ago, I'd be looking for "Curry" or "Cunny" as well. I have an embarrassing story about when I assigned the name "Janus" to a good Scot, based on a handwritten version of "James." Pat Dunford Tucson, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stephany Berry Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:00 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? I noticed on a copy made from a family bible that my 4th great grandmother's middle name was Cumy. I am pretty sure that is what it said. Has anyone heard of that name as possible Surname? I am wondering if it was her mother's maiden name. Any suggestions will be appreciated! Stephany The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have one relative who was named Martha Cumi Daniel, and in this case it was a given name, not a surname. S Rankin ----- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:59:33 -0500 From: Stephany Berry <glitteringgem@gmail.com> Subject: [TGF] Has anyone heard of the name Cumy? To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAM+G1uri5k3Lm-zLFF4UWsw=TbswqgFznwXZMZvD32Phwh0bFw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I noticed on a copy made from a family bible that my 4th great grandmother's middle name was Cumy. I am pretty sure that is what it said. Has anyone heard of that name as possible Surname? I am wondering if it was her mother's maiden name. Any suggestions will be appreciated! Stephany

I noticed on a copy made from a family bible that my 4th great grandmother's middle name was Cumy. I am pretty sure that is what it said. Has anyone heard of that name as possible Surname? I am wondering if it was her mother's maiden name. Any suggestions will be appreciated! Stephany

Original entry on Scotlandspeople site. I had credits left so sent Nancy original. Just letting others know so they too don't send, lol. -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Wright Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2012 4:17 AM To: TGF List Subject: [TGF] Anestry.com World Subscription look up Would someone who has a subscription to the international/worldwide Ancestry.com please look up the marriage of George Lowrie and Janet Cowan. It is listed as being recorded in Midlothian (Edinburgh) Scotland extracted parish records. The marriage took place between 1798 and 1802. If there is a FHL film number attached, please let me know what it is. This couple is my gr gr gr grandparents. Nancy Lowrie Wright The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, Found the full text here: _http://archive.org/stream/registerofmarria53edin/registerofmarria53edin_djv u.txt_ (http://archive.org/stream/registerofmarria53edin/registerofmarria53edin_djvu.txt) Ann In a message dated 07-Dec-12 11:28:43 US Mountain Standard Time, tony@proctor.net writes: I see the following but can't get any further details Nancy: Text: Cowan, Janet; George Lowrie, labourer 27 Nov 1799 Book: Volume 5. The Register of Marriages. (Marriage) Collection: Midlothian: Edinburgh - Register of Marriages, 1751-1800 Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Wright" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: "TGF List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: [TGF] Anestry.com World Subscription look up > Would someone who has a subscription to the international/worldwide > Ancestry.com > please look up the marriage of George Lowrie and Janet Cowan. It is > listed > as being recorded in Midlothian (Edinburgh) Scotland extracted parish > records. > > The marriage took place between 1798 and 1802. If there is a FHL film > number attached, please let me know what it is. > > This couple is my gr gr gr grandparents. > > Nancy Lowrie Wright > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> The grandson of her oldest child said that his grandfather was supposedly named "Vivian" (yes, on the spelling for a male child) because he was "full of life It might help someone to note here that Vivian was, traditionally, a male name. The female counterpart was Vivienne. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for daily tips on records and record usage: www.Facebook.com/EvidenceExplained

I see the following but can't get any further details Nancy: Text: Cowan, Janet; George Lowrie, labourer 27 Nov 1799 Book: Volume 5. The Register of Marriages. (Marriage) Collection: Midlothian: Edinburgh - Register of Marriages, 1751-1800 Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Wright" <wright4766@bellsouth.net> To: "TGF List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 6:16 PM Subject: [TGF] Anestry.com World Subscription look up > Would someone who has a subscription to the international/worldwide > Ancestry.com > please look up the marriage of George Lowrie and Janet Cowan. It is > listed > as being recorded in Midlothian (Edinburgh) Scotland extracted parish > records. > > The marriage took place between 1798 and 1802. If there is a FHL film > number attached, please let me know what it is. > > This couple is my gr gr gr grandparents. > > Nancy Lowrie Wright > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message

I had a great aunt whose given name was Della. Some of her siblings used nicknames so I thought it might be a nickname she used until I found her birth certificate that contained her full name, Della Willet Birch. Chuck Mason -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eshown Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 12:08 PM To: 'Kim Ostermyer'; 'Transitional Genealogists forum' Subject: Re: [TGF] Nickname for Huldah? Kim asked: >Is Della a possible nickname for Huldha by chance? I have an abandoned picture that I'm working on and am trying to locate family members. Kim, it's not a substitution I've personally seen. In my own family, Della is a nickname for Dulcena. Elizabeth ---------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for daily tips on records and records analysis: www.Facebook.com/EvidenceExplained The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message