Sue, The last thing I have from you was back in August. Chuck Mason -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue & Bob McCormick Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:24 PM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] Checking Earlier Message On December 15, 2012 I sent a query about Census images. Did the message get posted or did I make a mistake somehow in the posting? I can resend the message but don't wish to clog the message board with multiple postings. Sue McCormick The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On December 15, 2012 I sent a query about Census images. Did the message get posted or did I make a mistake somehow in the posting? I can resend the message but don't wish to clog the message board with multiple postings. Sue McCormick

I need someone to go to the Mississippi Archives for me in Jackson for a specific task. If you are interested, send me a private email at ancestoring@gmail.com and I will give you the details and discuss your fee. Michele

Michael S. Ramage, J.D., Certified Genealogist (sm) has published an article that is a must-read for those considering heir searching or already engaged in the service. Michael's article begins, "...Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, filed a 72-page Petition for Discipline against state Senator Jeffery E. Piccola, Esquire, alleging numerous ethical violations relating to his representation of an heir-hunting firm and the estate heirs that the heir-hunting firm took on as one-third contingency fee clients." The article is published in the Forensic Genealogy News (newsletter of Council for the Advancement of Forensic Genealogy). The newsletter is available at http://www.forensicgenealogists.org/Resources.html Click the link to Vol 2 #4 to view or download the pdf. -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Council for the Advancement of Forensic Genealogy announces its second Forensic Genealogy Institute. The first Institute held in October generated such a large wait-list that CAFG has scheduled an encore for April 11-13, 2013 at the Wyndham Love Field in Dallas, Texas. Public registration is scheduled to begin 21 January 2013 through the 123SignUp link on the CAFG Forensic Genealogy Institute website http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html More detailed information about the Institute to follow. -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Dana, Hi! As Dee Dee posted, death certificates for New Jersey can be ordered if they are for deaths more than 40 years ago. You didn't say when the death occurred, but you do have some other options before sending to the NJ State Health Dept and spending the $25. 1) For deaths up to 1955, you utilize the holdings of the NJ State Archives. (They offer a mail reference service for May 1848 - December 1900.) 2) Deaths 1956-1972, if you know the town where the person died, then you can request the death certificate from the town's health department. Most health departments that I've dealt with do genealogical searches and can be cheaper than the state fee. 3) Post-1972, an alternate route to the certificate would be to search for an estate file for the decedent. Death certs are part of the files for testate and intestate filings. 4) NJ Health Department request... If you have other questions on NJ research, ask away. :) Michelle -- Michelle Tucker Chubenko Member, Association of Professional Genealogists www.chubenko.us/profgen/ www.facebook.com/JerseyRootsGenealogy www.twitter.com/JerseyRootsGeni "Things don't turn up in this world until somebody turns them up." - James A. Garfield On 12/15/2012 11:57 AM, transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > 3. Ordering documents for clients (Genealady) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:56:45 -0800 > From: Genealady <genealady@gmail.com> > Subject: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients > To: "transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com" > <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <344149CC-C8CE-4E60-A766-1D40BDED740A@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello everyone! > > I accepted my first paying client recently (woo!) and I've tracked his family to the point I need the death certificate to look for the parents. Long story short - when you need to order documents but the state (NJ in this case) wants direct descendants to order only, what do you do? My client doesn't want to do that stuff, wants me to do it, but how does that work? It said I'd need a copy of his ID, but he lives in Ireland. Advice would be welcome! > > Thank you! > Dana Elliott > www.justfolks.us

They said "direct descendants" in their response to my document request. On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Lisa McKinney <lisakaymckinney@yahoo.com> wrote: > Was it only direct descendants or heirs? (Not sure what difference that would make to them, but I am just curious.) > > Thank you, > Lisa McKinney, MLA > Genealogy Research > From: Suzanne <sjs867@gmail.com> > To: > Cc: Transitional Genealogists forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients > > Hi, I am having the same problem except with a death record for a person who died in Mississippi. I sent for the record of a person who has no direct descendants. She was my Mother's aunt by marriage and they sent back a notice that only direct descendants can request a copy of her death certificate. What do you do next in a case like that? Thanks, Suzanne > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:08 AM, "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" <king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > > > Did the death occur more than 40 years ago? If so, anyone can make a genealogical request. > > > > http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/gen.shtml > > > > > > d > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Genealady" <genealady@gmail.com> > > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:56:45 AM > > Subject: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients > > > > Hello everyone! > > > > I accepted my first paying client recently (woo!) and I've tracked his family to the point I need the death certificate to look for the parents. Long story short - when you need to order documents but the state (NJ in this case) wants direct descendants to order only, what do you do? My client doesn't want to do that stuff, wants me to do it, but how does that work? It said I'd need a copy of his ID, but he lives in Ireland. Advice would be welcome! > > > > Thank you! > > Dana Elliott > > www.justfolks.us > > > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Phyllis McLaughlin <pcmclaughlin@writeaway-online.com> wrote: > > > >> i'm sure you could resell it on eBay. :) > >> > >> Phyllis McLaughlin > >> Editor, APG eNews > >> > >> On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:34 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > >> > >>> Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could > >>> not > >>> download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the > >>> Nook was > >>> to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to > >>> carry > >>> with me when we travel. > >>> > >>> I should have waited a little longer :-( > >>> > >>> Good to know for the future. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Margie in Washington State > >>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 4 > >>>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 > >>>> From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> > >>>> Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones > >>>> To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > >>>> Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>>> > >>>> Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have > >>>> asked . . . > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for > >>>> desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software > >>>> did not, > >>>> at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com > >>>> has > >>>> just > >>>> upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of > >>>> device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. > >>>> (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to > >>>> play in its > >>>> own sandbox. :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE > >>>> license > >>>> to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that > >>>> license, you have two options: > >>>> > >>>> 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other > >>>> desktop > >>>> or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was > >>>> attached to the license email you received when you made your > >>>> purchase. > >>>> Nothing has changed for you. > >>>> > >>>> 2. 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But the question is - what type of record was requested and when did the person die? If the death record is over 40 years old and you request a non-certified, or genealogy-purpose copy, anyone can order a photocopy. If under 40 years, or over 40 and a certified copy is requested, then one must jump through the hoops with ID and relationships. The information is towards the bottom of the page in the link sent earlier. I missed that the first time I needed a NJ record, until someone pointed it out to me. If you still can't get the death record, have you looked for obits or cemetery records for info on the parents? best regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne" <sjs867@gmail.com> Cc: "Transitional Genealogists forum" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:24:31 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients They said "direct descendants" in their response to my document request. On Dec 15, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Lisa McKinney <lisakaymckinney@yahoo.com> wrote: > Was it only direct descendants or heirs? (Not sure what difference that would make to them, but I am just curious.) > > Thank you, > Lisa McKinney, MLA > Genealogy Research > From: Suzanne <sjs867@gmail.com> > To: > Cc: Transitional Genealogists forum <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients > > Hi, I am having the same problem except with a death record for a person who died in Mississippi. I sent for the record of a person who has no direct descendants. She was my Mother's aunt by marriage and they sent back a notice that only direct descendants can request a copy of her death certificate. What do you do next in a case like that? Thanks, Suzanne > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:08 AM, "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" <king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > > > Did the death occur more than 40 years ago? If so, anyone can make a genealogical request. > > > > http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/gen.shtml > > > > > > d > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Genealady" <genealady@gmail.com> > > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:56:45 AM > > Subject: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients > > > > Hello everyone! > > > > I accepted my first paying client recently (woo!) and I've tracked his family to the point I need the death certificate to look for the parents. Long story short - when you need to order documents but the state (NJ in this case) wants direct descendants to order only, what do you do? My client doesn't want to do that stuff, wants me to do it, but how does that work? It said I'd need a copy of his ID, but he lives in Ireland. Advice would be welcome! > > > > Thank you! > > Dana Elliott > > www.justfolks.us > > > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Phyllis McLaughlin <pcmclaughlin@writeaway-online.com> wrote: > > > >> i'm sure you could resell it on eBay. :) > >> > >> Phyllis McLaughlin > >> Editor, APG eNews > >> > >> On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:34 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > >> > >>> Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could > >>> not > >>> download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the > >>> Nook was > >>> to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to > >>> carry > >>> with me when we travel. > >>> > >>> I should have waited a little longer :-( > >>> > >>> Good to know for the future. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Margie in Washington State > >>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Message: 4 > >>>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 > >>>> From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> > >>>> Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones > >>>> To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > >>>> Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> > >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>>> > >>>> Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have > >>>> asked . . . > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for > >>>> desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software > >>>> did not, > >>>> at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com > >>>> has > >>>> just > >>>> upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of > >>>> device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. > >>>> (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to > >>>> play in its > >>>> own sandbox. :) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE > >>>> license > >>>> to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that > >>>> license, you have two options: > >>>> > >>>> 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other > >>>> desktop > >>>> or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was > >>>> attached to the license email you received when you made your > >>>> purchase. > >>>> Nothing has changed for you. > >>>> > >>>> 2. An upgrade is available if you have downloads remaining and you > >>>> want to > >>>> upgrade to the new software that enables tablet and smartphone > >>>> devices and > >>>> eReaders. However: (a) because the more-advanced reader software is > >>>> totally > >>>> different software, the conversion process has to be manually > >>>> performed by > >>>> the site administrator; and (b) converting to the new super-duper > >>>> software > >>>> with expanded capability carries a $5 upgrade fee. For the > >>>> conversion, > >>>> email > >>>> StoreManager@EvidenceExplained.com, supply your original order > >>>> number and > >>>> the email address under which you ordered, and he will process the > >>>> upgrade > >>>> for you. > >>>> > >>>> If you are a new purchaser of EE or if you purchased the desktop- > >>>> laptop > >>>> version and have already used all your downloads, then downloading > >>>> the > >>>> electronic edition to work on whatever devices you have is a > >>>> "Bookstore" > >>>> transaction at EE's website. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Elizabeth > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG > >>>> > >>>> www.HistoricPathways.com > >>>> > >>>> www.EvidenceExplained.com > >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a > >>> supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as > >>> they transition to professional level work. 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Thanks to everyone who responded. A small scanned image of the two signatures from the xeroxed copy of the land deed can be seen here: http://carolinafamilyroots.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-elusive-parents-of-james-p-j-purvis.html I think this is a Father & Son witness of a land deed for an Uncle in the case of James P. J. and a 1st Cousin in the case of James Purvis Charlie Purvis On 12/15/2012 1:18 PM, Fredric Z. Saunders wrote: > Another thing regarding a "slanted E" is that if was a mark used for a > signature, the angle "might" depend on where the signer was sitting in > relation to the person who wrote the deed. I've seen recorded marks for the > same person in different documents that were a regular "E", a "backwards E" > (which is really just an upside down E), and an E laying on it's side. > > I don't think that the person changed the way they wrote the E (assuming it > was transcribed accurately by the clerk), but that the angle depended on > where the person was when they made it. If they were sitting across from the > person who wrote the deed, and he said "put your mark here" without turning > the deed "right side up" for them, the E would be "upside down" [the same as > backwards]. If they were sitting to the side, the E could look like it was > laying on it's side on the original document. > > When a clerk tries to makes an accurate rendition of a mark, I don't think > the orientation is as important as the actual shape. I've also what would > be read as a "3" as a mark in one record, be a rounded "W" or rounded "M" or > rounded "E" in another. > > Try writing a three a turn it, and you have a W, M, or E. The initials of > the signer "might" give a clue as to which it actually is. > > Rick Saunders > > -----Original Message----- > From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Chaelie > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:43 AM > To: TGF Mailing List > Subject: [TGF] Brands & Signature Marks > > > I have a Land deed from Clarke county, AL (DB6:366-367) in which one of the > witness singed his name with an "X" followed by a slanted E. > > Are there Signature Marks recorded like Cattle Brands in the said county or > at state level? > > Charlie Purvis > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5960 - Release Date: 12/14/12 > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am having the same problem except with a death record for a person who died in Mississippi. I sent for the record of a person who has no direct descendants. She was my Mother's aunt by marriage and they sent back a notice that only direct descendants can request a copy of her death certificate. What do you do next in a case like that? Thanks, Suzanne On Dec 15, 2012, at 11:08 AM, "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" <king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > Did the death occur more than 40 years ago? If so, anyone can make a genealogical request. > > http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/gen.shtml > > > d > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Genealady" <genealady@gmail.com> > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:56:45 AM > Subject: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients > > Hello everyone! > > I accepted my first paying client recently (woo!) and I've tracked his family to the point I need the death certificate to look for the parents. Long story short - when you need to order documents but the state (NJ in this case) wants direct descendants to order only, what do you do? My client doesn't want to do that stuff, wants me to do it, but how does that work? It said I'd need a copy of his ID, but he lives in Ireland. Advice would be welcome! > > Thank you! > Dana Elliott > www.justfolks.us > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Phyllis McLaughlin <pcmclaughlin@writeaway-online.com> wrote: > >> i'm sure you could resell it on eBay. :) >> >> Phyllis McLaughlin >> Editor, APG eNews >> >> On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:34 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: >> >>> Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could >>> not >>> download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the >>> Nook was >>> to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to >>> carry >>> with me when we travel. >>> >>> I should have waited a little longer :-( >>> >>> Good to know for the future. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Margie in Washington State >>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 >>>> From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> >>>> Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones >>>> To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> >>>> Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have >>>> asked . . . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for >>>> desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software >>>> did not, >>>> at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com >>>> has >>>> just >>>> upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of >>>> device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. >>>> (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to >>>> play in its >>>> own sandbox. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE >>>> license >>>> to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that >>>> license, you have two options: >>>> >>>> 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other >>>> desktop >>>> or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was >>>> attached to the license email you received when you made your >>>> purchase. >>>> Nothing has changed for you. >>>> >>>> 2. An upgrade is available if you have downloads remaining and you >>>> want to >>>> upgrade to the new software that enables tablet and smartphone >>>> devices and >>>> eReaders. However: (a) because the more-advanced reader software is >>>> totally >>>> different software, the conversion process has to be manually >>>> performed by >>>> the site administrator; and (b) converting to the new super-duper >>>> software >>>> with expanded capability carries a $5 upgrade fee. For the >>>> conversion, >>>> email >>>> StoreManager@EvidenceExplained.com, supply your original order >>>> number and >>>> the email address under which you ordered, and he will process the >>>> upgrade >>>> for you. >>>> >>>> If you are a new purchaser of EE or if you purchased the desktop- >>>> laptop >>>> version and have already used all your downloads, then downloading >>>> the >>>> electronic edition to work on whatever devices you have is a >>>> "Bookstore" >>>> transaction at EE's website. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG >>>> >>>> www.HistoricPathways.com >>>> >>>> www.EvidenceExplained.com >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a >>> supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as >>> they transition to professional level work. 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Genealogical citations seem to me to be useful only if the cited source can be revisited, That means Facebook postings, like conversations, interviews, chalk-board presentations or lectures, need to be captured in some more lasting form before they are used, and the citation should be to the lasting form, rather than the ephemeral original. Donn Donn Devine, CG Wilmington, Delaware, USA CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Not to my knowledge. Many people did not have *unique* signature marks. Also, keep in mind that you are looking at a deed book written by the clerk, as opposed to the original deed. Some clerks tried to faithfully reproduce signature marks; others did not. Either way, what you are looking at in a deed book would not have been the witness's own signature--at best it would have been a reproduction of his signature. Michael Hait, CG(sm) michael.hait@hotmail.com http://www.haitfamilyresearch.com "Planting the Seeds" Blog: http://michaelhait.wordpress.com CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: Chaelie Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:43 AM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] Brands & Signature Marks I have a Land deed from Clarke county, AL (DB6:366-367) in which one of the witness singed his name with an "X" followed by a slanted E. Are there Signature Marks recorded like Cattle Brands in the said county or at state level? Charlie Purvis The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a Land deed from Clarke county, AL (DB6:366-367) in which one of the witness singed his name with an "X" followed by a slanted E. Are there Signature Marks recorded like Cattle Brands in the said county or at state level? Charlie Purvis

Another thing regarding a "slanted E" is that if was a mark used for a signature, the angle "might" depend on where the signer was sitting in relation to the person who wrote the deed. I've seen recorded marks for the same person in different documents that were a regular "E", a "backwards E" (which is really just an upside down E), and an E laying on it's side. I don't think that the person changed the way they wrote the E (assuming it was transcribed accurately by the clerk), but that the angle depended on where the person was when they made it. If they were sitting across from the person who wrote the deed, and he said "put your mark here" without turning the deed "right side up" for them, the E would be "upside down" [the same as backwards]. If they were sitting to the side, the E could look like it was laying on it's side on the original document. When a clerk tries to makes an accurate rendition of a mark, I don't think the orientation is as important as the actual shape. I've also what would be read as a "3" as a mark in one record, be a rounded "W" or rounded "M" or rounded "E" in another. Try writing a three a turn it, and you have a W, M, or E. The initials of the signer "might" give a clue as to which it actually is. Rick Saunders -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Chaelie Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:43 AM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] Brands & Signature Marks I have a Land deed from Clarke county, AL (DB6:366-367) in which one of the witness singed his name with an "X" followed by a slanted E. Are there Signature Marks recorded like Cattle Brands in the said county or at state level? Charlie Purvis The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5960 - Release Date: 12/14/12

i'm sure you could resell it on eBay. :) Phyllis McLaughlin Editor, APG eNews On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:34 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could > not > download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the > Nook was > to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to > carry > with me when we travel. > > I should have waited a little longer :-( > > Good to know for the future. > > Thanks > Margie in Washington State > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 >> From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> >> Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones >> To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have >> asked . . . >> >> >> >> Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for >> desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software >> did not, >> at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com >> has >> just >> upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of >> device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. >> (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to >> play in its >> own sandbox. :) >> >> >> >> For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE >> license >> to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that >> license, you have two options: >> >> 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other >> desktop >> or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was >> attached to the license email you received when you made your >> purchase. >> Nothing has changed for you. >> >> 2. An upgrade is available if you have downloads remaining and you >> want to >> upgrade to the new software that enables tablet and smartphone >> devices and >> eReaders. However: (a) because the more-advanced reader software is >> totally >> different software, the conversion process has to be manually >> performed by >> the site administrator; and (b) converting to the new super-duper >> software >> with expanded capability carries a $5 upgrade fee. For the >> conversion, >> email >> StoreManager@EvidenceExplained.com, supply your original order >> number and >> the email address under which you ordered, and he will process the >> upgrade >> for you. >> >> If you are a new purchaser of EE or if you purchased the desktop- >> laptop >> version and have already used all your downloads, then downloading >> the >> electronic edition to work on whatever devices you have is a >> "Bookstore" >> transaction at EE's website. >> >> >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> >> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG >> >> www.HistoricPathways.com >> >> www.EvidenceExplained.com >> >> >> > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a > supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as > they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind > intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

Or the "slanted E" could be some mark added at a different time that had nothing to do with the deed or transaction. best regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hait" <michael.hait@hotmail.com> To: "Chaelie" <MPurvis16@gmail.com>, "TGF Mailing List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 10:57:23 AM Subject: Re: [TGF] Brands & Signature Marks Not to my knowledge. Many people did not have *unique* signature marks. Also, keep in mind that you are looking at a deed book written by the clerk, as opposed to the original deed. Some clerks tried to faithfully reproduce signature marks; others did not. Either way, what you are looking at in a deed book would not have been the witness's own signature--at best it would have been a reproduction of his signature. Michael Hait, CG(sm) michael.hait@hotmail.com http://www.haitfamilyresearch.com "Planting the Seeds" Blog: http://michaelhait.wordpress.com CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: Chaelie Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:43 AM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] Brands & Signature Marks I have a Land deed from Clarke county, AL (DB6:366-367) in which one of the witness singed his name with an "X" followed by a slanted E. Are there Signature Marks recorded like Cattle Brands in the said county or at state level? Charlie Purvis The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did the death occur more than 40 years ago? If so, anyone can make a genealogical request. http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/gen.shtml d ----- Original Message ----- From: "Genealady" <genealady@gmail.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 9:56:45 AM Subject: [TGF] Ordering documents for clients Hello everyone! I accepted my first paying client recently (woo!) and I've tracked his family to the point I need the death certificate to look for the parents. Long story short - when you need to order documents but the state (NJ in this case) wants direct descendants to order only, what do you do? My client doesn't want to do that stuff, wants me to do it, but how does that work? It said I'd need a copy of his ID, but he lives in Ireland. Advice would be welcome! Thank you! Dana Elliott www.justfolks.us On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Phyllis McLaughlin <pcmclaughlin@writeaway-online.com> wrote: > i'm sure you could resell it on eBay. :) > > Phyllis McLaughlin > Editor, APG eNews > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:34 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > >> Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could >> not >> download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the >> Nook was >> to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to >> carry >> with me when we travel. >> >> I should have waited a little longer :-( >> >> Good to know for the future. >> >> Thanks >> Margie in Washington State >> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 >>> From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> >>> Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones >>> To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have >>> asked . . . >>> >>> >>> >>> Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for >>> desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software >>> did not, >>> at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com >>> has >>> just >>> upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of >>> device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. >>> (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to >>> play in its >>> own sandbox. :) >>> >>> >>> >>> For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE >>> license >>> to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that >>> license, you have two options: >>> >>> 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other >>> desktop >>> or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was >>> attached to the license email you received when you made your >>> purchase. >>> Nothing has changed for you. >>> >>> 2. An upgrade is available if you have downloads remaining and you >>> want to >>> upgrade to the new software that enables tablet and smartphone >>> devices and >>> eReaders. However: (a) because the more-advanced reader software is >>> totally >>> different software, the conversion process has to be manually >>> performed by >>> the site administrator; and (b) converting to the new super-duper >>> software >>> with expanded capability carries a $5 upgrade fee. For the >>> conversion, >>> email >>> StoreManager@EvidenceExplained.com, supply your original order >>> number and >>> the email address under which you ordered, and he will process the >>> upgrade >>> for you. >>> >>> If you are a new purchaser of EE or if you purchased the desktop- >>> laptop >>> version and have already used all your downloads, then downloading >>> the >>> electronic edition to work on whatever devices you have is a >>> "Bookstore" >>> transaction at EE's website. >>> >>> >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> >>> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG >>> >>> www.HistoricPathways.com >>> >>> www.EvidenceExplained.com >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a >> supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as >> they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind >> intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. 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Hello everyone! I accepted my first paying client recently (woo!) and I've tracked his family to the point I need the death certificate to look for the parents. Long story short - when you need to order documents but the state (NJ in this case) wants direct descendants to order only, what do you do? My client doesn't want to do that stuff, wants me to do it, but how does that work? It said I'd need a copy of his ID, but he lives in Ireland. Advice would be welcome! Thank you! Dana Elliott www.justfolks.us On Dec 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Phyllis McLaughlin <pcmclaughlin@writeaway-online.com> wrote: > i'm sure you could resell it on eBay. :) > > Phyllis McLaughlin > Editor, APG eNews > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 10:34 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > >> Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could >> not >> download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the >> Nook was >> to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to >> carry >> with me when we travel. >> >> I should have waited a little longer :-( >> >> Good to know for the future. >> >> Thanks >> Margie in Washington State >> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 >>> From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> >>> Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones >>> To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have >>> asked . . . >>> >>> >>> >>> Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for >>> desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software >>> did not, >>> at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com >>> has >>> just >>> upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of >>> device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. >>> (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to >>> play in its >>> own sandbox. :) >>> >>> >>> >>> For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE >>> license >>> to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that >>> license, you have two options: >>> >>> 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other >>> desktop >>> or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was >>> attached to the license email you received when you made your >>> purchase. >>> Nothing has changed for you. >>> >>> 2. An upgrade is available if you have downloads remaining and you >>> want to >>> upgrade to the new software that enables tablet and smartphone >>> devices and >>> eReaders. However: (a) because the more-advanced reader software is >>> totally >>> different software, the conversion process has to be manually >>> performed by >>> the site administrator; and (b) converting to the new super-duper >>> software >>> with expanded capability carries a $5 upgrade fee. For the >>> conversion, >>> email >>> StoreManager@EvidenceExplained.com, supply your original order >>> number and >>> the email address under which you ordered, and he will process the >>> upgrade >>> for you. >>> >>> If you are a new purchaser of EE or if you purchased the desktop- >>> laptop >>> version and have already used all your downloads, then downloading >>> the >>> electronic edition to work on whatever devices you have is a >>> "Bookstore" >>> transaction at EE's website. >>> >>> >>> >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> >>> >>> Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG >>> >>> www.HistoricPathways.com >>> >>> www.EvidenceExplained.com >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a >> supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as >> they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind >> intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Darn! I just bought the hard-cover book (5 days ago) because I could not download an e-version onto my Nook. The whole reason I bought the Nook was to be able to download books, especially large genealogy books, to carry with me when we travel. I should have waited a little longer :-( Good to know for the future. Thanks Margie in Washington State > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:34:21 -0600 > From: "eshown" <eshown@comcast.net> > Subject: [TGF] Evidence Explained for tablets and smart phones > To: <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004a01cdda29$a274f2a0$e75ed7e0$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Pardon the one-time "commercial" here, but many of you have asked . . . > > > > Since April, EvidenceExplained (2d ed., rev.) has been available for > desktops and laptops, both Windows and Macs. The delivery software did not, > at that time, cover tablets and smart phones. EvidenceExplained.com has > just > upgraded to software that makes it readable on almost every kind of > device-e-readers, droid tablets and phones, iPads and iPhones, etc. > (Amazon's proprietary Kindle is an exception. Amazon prefers to play in its > own sandbox. :) > > > > For current users of EE's electronic edition: If you purchased an EE > license > to use on PCs or Macs and you have one or two downloads left on that > license, you have two options: > > 1. You may still download the version you purchased onto any other desktop > or laptop, whenever you need it. Simply use the license file that was > attached to the license email you received when you made your purchase. > Nothing has changed for you. > > 2. An upgrade is available if you have downloads remaining and you want to > upgrade to the new software that enables tablet and smartphone devices and > eReaders. However: (a) because the more-advanced reader software is totally > different software, the conversion process has to be manually performed by > the site administrator; and (b) converting to the new super-duper software > with expanded capability carries a $5 upgrade fee. For the conversion, > email > StoreManager@EvidenceExplained.com, supply your original order number and > the email address under which you ordered, and he will process the upgrade > for you. > > If you are a new purchaser of EE or if you purchased the desktop-laptop > version and have already used all your downloads, then downloading the > electronic edition to work on whatever devices you have is a "Bookstore" > transaction at EE's website. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG > > www.HistoricPathways.com > > www.EvidenceExplained.com > > >

I'm in the process of writing a (short) biography for one of my ancestors, Lodewijk Wesselo. It's almost finished, and I'm not going through it to make sure everything that needs a citation has one. But now I'm stumbling over several sentences in my introduction - or more accurately, over the question if I need to attach a citation to them. They are general sentences about his life, to catch the attention of the readers, and these events are named in more detail with proper citations in the biography. Below is the paragraph I'm talking about. [Preceding this paragraph, a paragraph long quote by Lodewijk Wesselo, with citation] Words written bij Lodewijk Wesselo in a letter to his brother Abraham Bernardus Wesselo, in which he tells of the bombardment of Rotterdam in May 1940 by German forces invading the Netherlands. By this time, Lodewijk had already lived through his share of ups and downs. During his life, he kept his faith throughout two world wars and one of the greatest floods the Netherlands has ever seen. He also experienced tragedy on a more personal scale, but his character and faith have helped him stand strong no matter how fierce the storm. his life's story, not even close to the end when the bombs were falling, starts many years earlier, back in 1875. [That ends the introduction, then a new "chapter" starts with: "Lodewijk, affectionately known as Lo, was born on 22 December 1875 in Voorschoten to Hendrik Wesselo and Alida Petronella van Grasstek." with a proper citation for this fact.] Now, there are several sentences in this paragraph that I am now thinking may need a citation. Or maybe not, since I don't exactly go into detail and I have them properly cited later on in the text when I do mention details. So I'm hesitating, about every sentence except for the first two of that paragraph, if I should add citations to them or not. What do you think? Joyce