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    1. Re: [TGF] Harold Henderson's column "Why We Don't Write, and How We Can"
    2. Karen Rhodes
    3. Thanks, Janis, and good work, Harold. I especially like ". . . the spirit takes precedence in writing a first draft, and the mechanics take precedence when revising." Excellent statement of the process. Karen Packard Rhodes Home for the holidays in Middleburg, Clay County, Florida Author of /Non-Federal Censuses of Florida, 1784-1945: A Guide to Sources/ On 12/20/2012 1:16 PM, Janis L Gilmore wrote: > Dear List, > > Most of you have probably already seen this column by our own Harold Henderson--but just in case, I am posting here. It is an excellent piece reminding us that we haven't really done anything until we have written it up! > > http://www.archives.com/experts/henderson-harold/genealogy-writing-tips.html > >

    12/20/2012 09:12:01
    1. [TGF] Applying Harold Henderson's "Why We Don't Write, and How We Can"
    2. Harold, I enjoyed reading "Why We Don't Write, and How We Can."   I've been working on a biography of my 3rd gr grandfather who served in the Civil War who was captured at the Battle of Chickamauga and sent to Libby prison.   What I did was construct a very detailed time line of his experiences in the Civil War using county clerk records, his military file, his pension file, a regimental history of his unit and his diary of his experiences while a prisoner in Libby prison.  I also took notes of the Libby prison system itself, studied histories, etc., etc.   I want to share this with my peers, posterity and other relatives.  I want to make it flow, keep it enjoyable to read and have certain details in it.  My problem is I can't seem to stop the project.   I have about 17 pages written on his biography so far.  What I am wondering is "how much is enough or how much is too much?"  I have taken a writing course, but always feel I could take more.  Time constraints and finances won't let me now.   What do you suggest?   Cheryl Proctor in very windy Southern Indiana ________________________________ From: Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> To: Debra Hoffman <dalhoffman@gmail.com> Cc: TGF Mailing List <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Harold Henderson's column "Why We Don't Write, and How We Can" Thanks, guys, and Happy New Year! On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Debra Hoffman <dalhoffman@gmail.com> wrote: > Excellent article Harold! It certainly touched a cord with me. I have good > intentions, but life intervenes and soon the backlog grows! > > A New Year is coming and time for a new habit! > > --Debra A. Hoffman > New Windsor, MD > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Janis L Gilmore <janis.gilmore@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > Most of you have probably already seen this column by our own Harold > > Henderson--but just in case, I am posting here. It is an excellent piece > > reminding us that we haven't really done anything until we have written > it > > up! > > > > > > > http://www.archives.com/experts/henderson-harold/genealogy-writing-tips.html > > > > Janis Walker Gilmore > > Pawleys Island, SC > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition > to > > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Harold Henderson            midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2012 09:08:58
    1. Re: [TGF] Vermont Warnings Out
    2. Marieta Grissom
    3. I'm also interested in this topic. What is the name and author for these volumes? Can they be found elsewhere? Thank you. Marieta A. Grissom, CG (sm) Indianola, Iowa "CG" and "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations. Certificate No. 990, expires 12 March 2014. > From: stonehouseresearch@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:01:38 -0500 > To: jns@wvi.com > CC: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TGF] Vermont Warnings Out > > Sue, this is not online but I have copies of both volumes. I'd be happy to do a quick lookup for you. > > Cathi Desmarais CG > Stone House Historical Research > Vermont > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Sue Masse <jns@wvi.com> wrote: > > > A friend said that she thinks she saw this as a searchable database > > online, but I can't find it. Checked NEHGS (in library onsite but not > > online), FHL, Ancestry and USGenweb for Vermont. Has anyone seen this > > online? > > > > Thanks > > > > Sue > > > > -- > > Susan Wallace Masse > > A Bridge to the Past > > > > > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2012 08:43:23
    1. [TGF] Harold Henderson's column "Why We Don't Write, and How We Can"
    2. Janis L Gilmore
    3. Dear List, Most of you have probably already seen this column by our own Harold Henderson--but just in case, I am posting here. It is an excellent piece reminding us that we haven't really done anything until we have written it up! http://www.archives.com/experts/henderson-harold/genealogy-writing-tips.html Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC

    12/20/2012 06:16:56
    1. [TGF] Obituary needed
    2. Diane Giannini
    3. I need an obituary from the Tacoma, Washington library. Please contact me off list if you are able to help. Diane L Giannini, CG Ancestry Sleuths *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations

    12/20/2012 02:46:15
    1. [TGF] Thanks for your excellent input
    2. Claudia Breland
    3. I just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my post about the difficult client report, both on the list and privately! You've all shared your collective wisdom, and confirmed, again, that every research project and report is a learning experience. I sent off my report to the client last night - I'll let you know what her reaction is! Claudia Breland http://www.ccbreland.com

    12/20/2012 12:59:52
    1. Re: [TGF] Obituary needed
    2. Claudia Breland
    3. Hi Diane, I live about a half hour away from the Tacoma library, and have been there often to look at the microfilmed newspapers. My current rate is $35 an hour, with a professional discount to other professional genealogists of $30 an hour. Travel time is included, since it's within 25 miles of my home. I would be able to do this lookup by December 31, or sooner if you need it. Claudia Breland http://www.ccbreland.com -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Giannini Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:46 AM To: transitional-genealogists-forum Subject: [TGF] Obituary needed I need an obituary from the Tacoma, Washington library. Please contact me off list if you are able to help. Diane L Giannini, CG Ancestry Sleuths *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/20/2012 12:54:14
    1. Re: [TGF] Census Images
    2. Martha Grenzeback
    3. HeritageQuest does have everything except (I think) some of 1940...? Not all years are indexed, so you have to choose the "browse" option. Martha Grenzeback graymatters@windstream.net On Dec 18, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Sue & Bob McCormick <mccormack44@mchsi.com> wrote: > I need a free online source for census images so that I can compare images with the easily accessible images of FamilySearch and Ancestry. HeritageQuest doesn't have a complete set. > > Sometime this year I found (and then lost the location of) a complete set of all the census images. It wan't indexed; you needed to know the Publication Number, Roll, County (perhaps page) in order to find you information, but that wouldn't be a problem for me. > > Can anyone here help me locate such a source? > > Sue McCormick > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/19/2012 05:19:16
    1. Re: [TGF] Vermont Warnings Out
    2. Cathi
    3. Sue, this is not online but I have copies of both volumes. I'd be happy to do a quick lookup for you. Cathi Desmarais CG Stone House Historical Research Vermont Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Sue Masse <jns@wvi.com> wrote: > A friend said that she thinks she saw this as a searchable database > online, but I can't find it. Checked NEHGS (in library onsite but not > online), FHL, Ancestry and USGenweb for Vermont. Has anyone seen this > online? > > Thanks > > Sue > > -- > Susan Wallace Masse > A Bridge to the Past > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/19/2012 03:01:38
    1. [TGF] Book help
    2. Suzanne Stewart
    3. Hi, I have a question about something recently mentioned on this forum. I thought that a book had been mentioned that contains an example of document order forms in it that you can copy and use.I tried to find the thread again but now I can't find it. Do any of you remember the book in question? Thank you, Suzanne

    12/19/2012 02:49:03
    1. Re: [TGF] Consanguinity and Canon Law: Relationship Between Marriage Partners
    2. LeRoy Atkins
    3. Elizabeth wrote: "Leroy, the first statement you quote below, "the 3rd to the 4th degree of consanguinity," makes sense. I'm wondering if there wasn't a typo in the subsequent sentence in this article. Have you contacted George to verify what the original record said"? Thank you for the suggestion. And for whomever contacted him on my behalf. LeRoy

    12/19/2012 02:03:50
    1. Re: [TGF] Consanguinity and Canon Law: Relationship Between Marriage Partners
    2. eshown
    3. Leroy, the first statement you quote below, "the 3rd to the 4th degree of consanguinity," makes sense. I'm wondering if there wasn't a typo in the subsequent sentence in this article. Have you contacted George to verify what the original record said? Elizabeth --------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for daily tips on records and record usage: www.Facebook.com/EvidenceExplained -----Original Message----- The quote, "double impediment of the 4th to the 4th degree of consanguinity," is taken from p. 138 in George L. Findlen's article, "The 1917 Code of Canon Law: A Resource for Understanding Catholic Church Registers," NGSQ 93 (June 2005.) The couple in the case had received permission for marriage "of an impediment of the 3rd to the 4th degree of consanguinity." Subsequently they sought for and received clearance of the "double impediment of the 4th to the 4th degree of consanguinity,"

    12/19/2012 11:31:09
    1. [TGF] Vermont Warnings Out
    2. Sue Masse
    3. A friend said that she thinks she saw this as a searchable database online, but I can't find it. Checked NEHGS (in library onsite but not online), FHL, Ancestry and USGenweb for Vermont. Has anyone seen this online? Thanks Sue -- Susan Wallace Masse A Bridge to the Past

    12/19/2012 10:55:10
    1. Re: [TGF] Citations Needed or Not?
    2. J. Mulder
    3. I wanted to thank everyone who responded, both here on the list and privately, to my question about citations in the introduction of a biography I am writing about Lodewijk Wesselo. The general consensus was that these sentences did not need citations, because they were merely an introduction and the facts in them appear in greater detail with proper citations later on in the story. Joyce

    12/19/2012 09:32:22
    1. Re: [TGF] TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 6, Issue 664
    2. Onondaga County, New York, was part of the military bounty land awarded to soldiers by the State of New York for Revolutionary War service. Some states gave bounty land during that war, though some states were too small to grant state bounty land. These state bounty grants are apart from federal bounty land. Hope this helps! Christine [Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG] See: Christine Rose, Military Bounty Land 1776-1855 (San Jose, Calif.: CR Publications, 2011. See specifically Chapter Three. >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM, unique64 Riley <unique64@msn.com<mailto:unique64@msn.com>> wrote:>> Could someone help me understand what exactly these records are documenting? They are at familysearch.org<http://familysearch.org/> and listed as Awards, 1798-1802 for Onondaga County New York. I am guessing that they are a type of court record granting land when there was a dispute. Are they from a federal or county court?>>

    12/19/2012 06:46:08
    1. Re: [TGF] writing a report for a difficult client
    2. Christopher Gray
    3. Claudia - given that you are where you are, and so it doesn't matter what you could have done up front, then I fully support your approach. I have found on a number of occasions that a well written report - aimed at the individual - often softens the disappointment and sometimes even makes you client very happy. So now you're trying to understand the style that would make your client happy. All the best. Chris -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claudia Breland Sent: 19 December 2012 3:28 AM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] writing a report for a difficult client I'm doing research (unfortunately limited to 4 hours) and writing a report for a difficult client. We met in person, and she told me what she wanted, which was to trace her paternal ancestry back to the immigrant ancestor. After our meeting, she sent me an email that stated, in no uncertain terms, that she was not interested in children or siblings, and that she wanted birth and death certificates. Well. I've taken her furthest known ancestor (born 1848 in Missouri) back 2 generations, going by census records. That ancestor's grandfather was born about 1785 in North Carolina, but obviously I'm not going to be able to conjure up birth and death certificates. In fact, I'm depending heavily on indirect evidence, such as emigration patterns from North Carolina to Missouri in the early 1800's, on land purchases, and on the grandfather's daughter-in-law's father (also living in the same county in Missouri in 1850) also being born in North Carolina about 1790. Who's to say they didn't know each other before they had children who would grow up and marry? So I'm writing my report, making it as fascinating as I can, and as educational as I can (this is a teachable moment, here), without actually answering her question. One of the concepts I'm going to present to her is that genealogists not only want to know who, and where, and when, but why. Why did they leave North Carolina? Why did they leave Missouri and cross over into Kansas Territory and then to Iowa? I'm fairly sure she won't be happy that my 4 hours didn't find the answer she wanted, and I don't think she has the resources to have me do more research - which will obviously have to be with documents that are not online, but are on microfilm or in archives. What I'm hoping for is that she will get a real sense of who her ancestors were. Just thinking out loud here.. Claudia The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/19/2012 06:36:24
    1. Re: [TGF] writing a report for a difficult client
    2. Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL
    3. Someone asked me about my “smiley” sentence. Although tongue in cheek, it is also a business practice. Here is how I explained it to her. “When or if you do [take clients], it is a *business* decision on how you will be paid. The common way for most professionals (not just board-certified) is to ask for a specific retainer or half of the anticipated total up front to engage the professional. Then when work is completed the professional can decide as part of the way they conduct their own business whether to ask for the remainder before delivery of the report or after. My smiley comment was to have Claudia consider asking for the full payment before delivery of the report (a normal practice).” I hope anyone else wondering about the comment now has a greater understanding of the common business practices of professional genealogists. As long as your business practice is explained in your contract or an email before work starts, the client should understand it. -- Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL" [Elissa@powellgenealogy.com] Date: 12/18/2012 08:07 PM Get the money up front. (smile)

    12/19/2012 05:49:20
    1. Re: [TGF] writing a report for a difficult client
    2. Rondina Muncy
    3. Elissa, While I email the contact, I prefer to have a hard-copy signature returned to me. A bit old-fashioned. Rondina _______________________ Rondina P. Muncy Ancestral Analysis 4008 Linden Avenue Fort Worth, Texas 76107 682.224.6584 rondina.muncy@gmail.com www.ancestralanalysis.com On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL < Elissa@powellgenealogy.com> wrote: > Someone asked me about my “smiley” sentence. Although tongue in cheek, it > is also a business practice. Here is how I explained it to her. > > > > “When or if you do [take clients], it is a *business* decision on how you > will be paid. The common way for most professionals (not just > board-certified) is to ask for a specific retainer or half of the > anticipated total up front to engage the professional. Then when work is > completed the professional can decide as part of the way they conduct their > own business whether to ask for the remainder before delivery of the report > or after. > > > > My smiley comment was to have Claudia consider asking for the full payment > before delivery of the report (a normal practice).” > > > > I hope anyone else wondering about the comment now has a greater > understanding of the common business practices of professional > genealogists. As long as your business practice is explained in your > contract or an email before work starts, the client should understand it. > > > > -- Elissa > > > > Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL > > www.PowellGenealogy.com > > www.GRIPitt.org > > CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are > Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under > license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and > the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark > Office. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL" [Elissa@powellgenealogy.com] > Date: 12/18/2012 08:07 PM > > Get the money up front. (smile) > > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/19/2012 05:34:28
    1. Re: [TGF] NY Land Records- Awards
    2. Sue Adams
    3. What a gloriously messy history to these lands! I had 'flicked' through the other pages and found lists of deceased soldiers at the back, so was wondering what the military connection was. Sue Adams Family Folk Blog: http://familyfolklore.wordpress.com/ On 19/12/2012 04:41, unique64 Riley wrote: > Patricia, > > Thank you very much! I am still learning and had not did any land research in NY before this week. I did wonder if this law was unique to the state. > > I have since found some info which explains what was happening at the time and why the law was enacted. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nycoloni/cnmtrct.html<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nycoloni/cnmtrct.html> > > Thanks again. > > Monique > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patricia Hobbs<mailto:plhgenealogy@gmail.com> > To: unique64 Riley<mailto:unique64@msn.com> > Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com<mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [TGF] NY Land Records- Awards > > > Monique: > > > I did not know about this and my ancestors were in a part of Onondaga that later became part of Preble, so I am interested. Here is the act in the New York statutes: http://books.google.com/books?id=qnw4AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=new+york+law+an+act+to+settle+disputes+to+titles+of+land+onondaga&source=bl&ots=AmCttMyfdL&sig=3Bq74j_oExT-wuQvE_umlp0FIz8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-z3RUJuLJOjY2gWRuoGIBw&ved=0CEoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=new%20york%20law%20an%20act%20to%20settle%20disputes%20to%20titles%20of%20land%20onondaga&f=false<http://books.google.com/books?id=qnw4AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=new+york+law+an+act+to+settle+disputes+to+titles+of+land+onondaga&source=bl&ots=AmCttMyfdL&sig=3Bq74j_oExT-wuQvE_umlp0FIz8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-z3RUJuLJOjY2gWRuoGIBw&ved=0CEoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=new%20york%20law%20an%20act%20to%20settle%20disputes%20to%20titles%20of%20land%20onondaga&f=false> > > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:22 PM, unique64 Riley <unique64@msn.com<mailto:unique64@msn.com>> wrote: > > Could someone help me understand what exactly these records are documenting? They are at familysearch.org<http://familysearch.org/> and listed as Awards, 1798-1802 for Onondaga County New York. I am guessing that they are a type of court record granting land when there was a dispute. Are they from a federal or county court? > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32981-23434-29?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462<https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32981-23434-29?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462><https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32981-23434-29?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462<https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-32981-23434-29?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462>> > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32981-23928-46?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462<https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32981-23928-46?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462><https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32981-23928-46?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462<https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-32981-23928-46?cc=2078654&wc=M9M4-DJ8:n1312137462>> > > Thank you, > Monique > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/19/2012 04:42:02
    1. Re: [TGF] writing a report for a difficult client
    2. Michael Hait
    3. I have to agree 100% with Mara. In my experience, four hours is barely enough to read and evaluate all of their previous research, and maybe conduct a few simple Ancestry searches, and even the writing the report will usually take it past four hours. You may want to consider raising your minimum hour requirement (or instituting one). I won't accept any research project less than 10 hours, and I explain to them that more than this will likely be necessary to achieve their goals. Michael Hait, CG(sm) michael.hait@hotmail.com http://www.haitfamilyresearch.com "Planting the Seeds" Blog: http://michaelhait.wordpress.com CG and Certified Genealogist are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: Mara Fein, PhD, CG Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:22 AM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] writing a reply for a difficult client I would add to the comments on your difficult client by saying that when only 4 hours research is authorized for the amount of work you describe, you probably need to either walk away from the client or educate that client about the amount of work involved. You won't be a satisfied professional until you believe you are being paid fairly. Mara Fein, PhD, CG(SM) mfein@ancestrywest.com www.ancestrywest.com 310-487-5150 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board's associates. The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/19/2012 04:41:49