Things are obviously different in Canada, but I remember applications, such as passport applications always asking if you use any aliases, what were they and for how long they had been in use. There used to be a law (I believe) where if you used an assumed name (without intent of fraud) for more than two years, you were allowed to adopt it as your own. I don't know what procedures, if any, would have been necessary at that point. On 29 December 2012 15:14, Dave Liesse <Dave@skingcoservicesllc.com> wrote: > Whether or not his name was changed legally, it seems to me it is > everyone else's legal name. Presumably his wife went through the normal > processes when they got married; there is no law that I know of that > requires a wife to adopt his name, her maiden name, or any other name -- > if she changed hers to his new name, then that's her legal name. Same > for the kids; that's the name that was given to them when they were > born, and again I don't know of any law that absolutely requires their > name to be the same as their parents' (it's certainly a nice > convenience, though!). > > Dave Liesse > Skingco Services, LLC > > > On 12/29/2012 10:14, Michele Lewis wrote: > > One of my uncles was quite a rogue in his youth. He got mad at my > > grandparents back in the late 70s so he changed his surname to one he > made > > up. It isn't a real surname. It sounds like an American Indian name and > > very romantic sounding but is isn't a legitimate surname :) He also > > changed his first name though that wasn't a dramatic change and people > who > > knew his given name would have just thought it was a shortened nickname. > He > > later turned his life around, got married, went to college and became a > > teacher. His wife took the same last name. Apparently when they got > > married he didn't have to actually prove that was his legal name. They > had > > one daughter and her birth certificate has this same name on it. This > > daughter got married and her husband took HER surname (I can't blame him. > > It is really a cool name). My uncle ended up writing two nationally > > published middle school textbooks under his assumed name. It is funny > to me > > when I see his books on Amazon! > > > > Here is the interesting part. None of the extended family had no idea he > > had done any of this. Everyone would see him at reunions and such and > they > > had no clue he had been living under a totally different name for over 40 > > years! No one had a clue that his wife and child were living under this > same > > new name. Everyone thought their last name was the uncle's birth > surname. > > Guess how everyone figured it out. Facebook. My uncle is not on > Facebook > > but his daughter is. Myself and the other genealogists in the family > > routinely comb Facebook for possible kin. The daughter has an older half > > brother (from my uncle's first marriage) that has the correct surname. > The > > daughter has an unusual first name so when I was looking at the list of > > friends for my cousin (the older half brother) I saw a girl with this > > unusual first name but with this cool Indian sounding last name. I knew > it > > was my cousin but I wrongly assumed she had married someone with that > cool > > last name and that is how she ended up with it. When I went to her page > I > > saw her mother (my uncle's wife) with that same last name so then I > realized > > something was wrong. > > > > That is when I tracked down the birth certificate for the daughter > (Texas > > is very generous with their records) and it shows my uncle and his wife > with > > this unusual last name. When I went to the daughter's friend page, I > found > > her husband and then looked at his page. Both of his parents were listed > > (and they had been married forever) and they had a different last name > so he > > had dropped his ordinary last name and took his wife's cool name. > > > > I called my other uncle (the oldest of the siblings) and asked him about > it. > > That is when he related the story to me and told me that no one in the > > family knew any of this, including my own father (2nd oldest child and > just > > older than the man in question). I thought the whole thing was > absolutely > > fascinating. > > > > Believe it or not, there is a question in all of this. When my uncle got > > married, he gave a false name. His wife took that false name as her own > (I > > assume she knew it was false considering all of his siblings had a > different > > last name and his parents had only been married to each other). Their > child > > is also named this false name. LEGALLY, what does it all mean? Is the > > wife's legal name really the false name or is it my uncle's real last > name? > > What about the child? > > > > Michele > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. 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I have an accurate date range for when he changed his name and he only lived in one place so I queried the court in that location who did a search and they had no records of a legal name change (okay, I know, I know, I am being a little sneaky and nosy but those records are public records after all!). I have both of his marriage licenses (one in his birth surname and one in is assumed surname) as well as the birth certificates of his two children (the first with his birth surname and the second with the assumed surname). As a general rule he keeps pretty much to himself not having a lot of contact with his family other than his oldest brother (my dad and he couldn't stand each other so they had virtually no contact before my dad died.). He does come to the every other year reunion in Mississippi and when he shows up he is his normal happy-go-lucky self that he has always been. He interacts with everyone. Of course there is no reason whatsoever to discuss who is using what last name so how would anyone have known? I grew up with his son from his first marriage. We are only 1 year apart in age. Michele -----Original Message----- From: Kith-n-Kin [mailto:Kith-n-Kin@cox.net] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:00 PM To: 'Michele Lewis'; 'TGF Mailing List' Subject: RE: [TGF] A weird name scenario Michele Do you have reason to believe that at no time he legally changed his name? I don't know the state where this happened, but the "rule of thumb" *used to be* that you could use any name you wanted, as long as you weren't out to defraud someone. Not anymore. In recent times, I have found that if you want a drivers license, passport, or now, just about any old thing, you have to have some "proof" that you are who you say you are. I would be somewhat surprised that after all these years, that did not happen. Social Security comes to mind. I do have to chuckle, though. What did he talk about at those reunions? Or, was he the best listener there? Pat Dunford -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:14 AM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] A weird name scenario One of my uncles was quite a rogue in his youth. He got mad at my grandparents back in the late 70s so he changed his surname to one he made up. It isn't a real surname. It sounds like an American Indian name and very romantic sounding but is isn't a legitimate surname :) . . . . Believe it or not, there is a question in all of this. When my uncle got married, he gave a false name. His wife took that false name as her own (I assume she knew it was false considering all of his siblings had a different last name and his parents had only been married to each other). Their child is also named this false name. LEGALLY, what does it all mean? Is the wife's legal name really the false name or is it my uncle's real last name? What about the child? Michele

Whether or not his name was changed legally, it seems to me it is everyone else's legal name. Presumably his wife went through the normal processes when they got married; there is no law that I know of that requires a wife to adopt his name, her maiden name, or any other name -- if she changed hers to his new name, then that's her legal name. Same for the kids; that's the name that was given to them when they were born, and again I don't know of any law that absolutely requires their name to be the same as their parents' (it's certainly a nice convenience, though!). Dave Liesse Skingco Services, LLC On 12/29/2012 10:14, Michele Lewis wrote: > One of my uncles was quite a rogue in his youth. He got mad at my > grandparents back in the late 70s so he changed his surname to one he made > up. It isn't a real surname. It sounds like an American Indian name and > very romantic sounding but is isn't a legitimate surname :) He also > changed his first name though that wasn't a dramatic change and people who > knew his given name would have just thought it was a shortened nickname. He > later turned his life around, got married, went to college and became a > teacher. His wife took the same last name. Apparently when they got > married he didn't have to actually prove that was his legal name. They had > one daughter and her birth certificate has this same name on it. This > daughter got married and her husband took HER surname (I can't blame him. > It is really a cool name). My uncle ended up writing two nationally > published middle school textbooks under his assumed name. It is funny to me > when I see his books on Amazon! > > Here is the interesting part. None of the extended family had no idea he > had done any of this. Everyone would see him at reunions and such and they > had no clue he had been living under a totally different name for over 40 > years! No one had a clue that his wife and child were living under this same > new name. Everyone thought their last name was the uncle's birth surname. > Guess how everyone figured it out. Facebook. My uncle is not on Facebook > but his daughter is. Myself and the other genealogists in the family > routinely comb Facebook for possible kin. The daughter has an older half > brother (from my uncle's first marriage) that has the correct surname. The > daughter has an unusual first name so when I was looking at the list of > friends for my cousin (the older half brother) I saw a girl with this > unusual first name but with this cool Indian sounding last name. I knew it > was my cousin but I wrongly assumed she had married someone with that cool > last name and that is how she ended up with it. When I went to her page I > saw her mother (my uncle's wife) with that same last name so then I realized > something was wrong. > > That is when I tracked down the birth certificate for the daughter (Texas > is very generous with their records) and it shows my uncle and his wife with > this unusual last name. When I went to the daughter's friend page, I found > her husband and then looked at his page. Both of his parents were listed > (and they had been married forever) and they had a different last name so he > had dropped his ordinary last name and took his wife's cool name. > > I called my other uncle (the oldest of the siblings) and asked him about it. > That is when he related the story to me and told me that no one in the > family knew any of this, including my own father (2nd oldest child and just > older than the man in question). I thought the whole thing was absolutely > fascinating. > > Believe it or not, there is a question in all of this. When my uncle got > married, he gave a false name. His wife took that false name as her own (I > assume she knew it was false considering all of his siblings had a different > last name and his parents had only been married to each other). Their child > is also named this false name. LEGALLY, what does it all mean? Is the > wife's legal name really the false name or is it my uncle's real last name? > What about the child? > > Michele > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wow. What a remarkably generous group you are! Thank you so much for your guidance. I will follow all tips and advice from you. Wish me luck! Ann On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Patricia Hobbs <plhgenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > I think this is the same kind of similar scenario as with any genealogical > research project. No one is going to be able to say. You can have a range of > what the person knows about acceptable proof for lineage. Therefore, you may > only have to obtain necessary documents which may not take long at all. > However, if some generations have not really been proven, a lot of research > may be involved to find the proof ... or not find the proof. > > In my job at the library, I help a people determine if they have what is > needed to prove their lines. Most recently, I spent time with the patron > going through her information telling her what she should request and to > whom she should write (or what microfilm from FHL to order). Then I > recommended newspapers for one generation which we got through ILL, and that > turned out to be a gold mine which not only told about the connection to the > children, but also told who his parents were. BUT when we got to the last > generation to connect to the patriot, we had to try lots of things which was > quite time consuming -- mostly for her since I was just guiding her. This > connection has been accepted by the DAR before, but we never found any > direct evidence. Most of the "proof" comes from DAR sources including a > tombstone with children's names provided by a DAR member and descendant. > > > > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Ann Mulfort <annmulfort@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I have been contacted by a potential first client, and ask the >> collective wisdom on this list how many hours to estimate for >> completing the process of assisting with her application to DAR. >> >> Any help and advice would be very much appreciated! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Ann Mulfort >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, A friend is working to source and attach all the artifacts he has been given by his family to his ancestors in his genealogy program. He has some documents that are out of the ordinary and is struggling to figure out where to put them in RootsMagic and whether they are sources to events or just information (I'm jealous cuz he has some great bits of info). I have advised him to use Evidence Explained which he has been consulting and then try to find a corresponding source template in RM. He is doing that but there are still questions. What template would he use for work appraisals? I told him to attach it to the Occupation fact but in what format? He has school report cards, funeral programs... He asks, "I have report cards from school, appraisals from work, funeral programs, etc. Should they all be attached as sources or as media?" I offered that if they contain information such as names, dates and places, they should be used as a source, otherwise they are wonderful pieces of information to be used to enhance his ancestors' lives. Then he has some wonderful notes from an ancestor who was in the Civil War. He writes, "My great-great grandfather was the surgeon general for the Confederacy during the Civil War. I have a copy of his notes where he describes the herbs he collected and the equipment and how he made medicine and for the sick and wounded. I also have a copy of his notes he developed as a doctor and what he used for helping the sick. I'm having a difficult time finding a format for sourcing them. I did look up Mills' book, Evidence Explained, and I did review the various formats she suggests. The best option seems to be Miscellaneous Documents, Unpublished. That my be the best format for miscellaneous stories that I have for several of my ancestors." I suggested Diaries and Journals as that template is found in RM, but is Miscellaneous Documents, Unpublished a better choice? Or just another choice? Ms Mills has certainly hit the nail on the head when she states, "Sourcing is an art...". Thanks Margie in Washington State

I think this is the same kind of similar scenario as with any genealogical research project. No one is going to be able to say. You can have a range of what the person knows about acceptable proof for lineage. Therefore, you may only have to obtain necessary documents which may not take long at all. However, if some generations have not really been proven, a lot of research may be involved to find the proof ... or not find the proof. In my job at the library, I help a people determine if they have what is needed to prove their lines. Most recently, I spent time with the patron going through her information telling her what she should request and to whom she should write (or what microfilm from FHL to order). Then I recommended newspapers for one generation which we got through ILL, and that turned out to be a gold mine which not only told about the connection to the children, but also told who his parents were. BUT when we got to the last generation to connect to the patriot, we had to try lots of things which was quite time consuming -- mostly for her since I was just guiding her. This connection has been accepted by the DAR before, but we never found any direct evidence. Most of the "proof" comes from DAR sources including a tombstone with children's names provided by a DAR member and descendant. On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Ann Mulfort <annmulfort@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have been contacted by a potential first client, and ask the > collective wisdom on this list how many hours to estimate for > completing the process of assisting with her application to DAR. > > Any help and advice would be very much appreciated! > > Best regards, > > Ann Mulfort > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

One of my uncles was quite a rogue in his youth. He got mad at my grandparents back in the late 70s so he changed his surname to one he made up. It isn't a real surname. It sounds like an American Indian name and very romantic sounding but is isn't a legitimate surname :) He also changed his first name though that wasn't a dramatic change and people who knew his given name would have just thought it was a shortened nickname. He later turned his life around, got married, went to college and became a teacher. His wife took the same last name. Apparently when they got married he didn't have to actually prove that was his legal name. They had one daughter and her birth certificate has this same name on it. This daughter got married and her husband took HER surname (I can't blame him. It is really a cool name). My uncle ended up writing two nationally published middle school textbooks under his assumed name. It is funny to me when I see his books on Amazon! Here is the interesting part. None of the extended family had no idea he had done any of this. Everyone would see him at reunions and such and they had no clue he had been living under a totally different name for over 40 years! No one had a clue that his wife and child were living under this same new name. Everyone thought their last name was the uncle's birth surname. Guess how everyone figured it out. Facebook. My uncle is not on Facebook but his daughter is. Myself and the other genealogists in the family routinely comb Facebook for possible kin. The daughter has an older half brother (from my uncle's first marriage) that has the correct surname. The daughter has an unusual first name so when I was looking at the list of friends for my cousin (the older half brother) I saw a girl with this unusual first name but with this cool Indian sounding last name. I knew it was my cousin but I wrongly assumed she had married someone with that cool last name and that is how she ended up with it. When I went to her page I saw her mother (my uncle's wife) with that same last name so then I realized something was wrong. That is when I tracked down the birth certificate for the daughter (Texas is very generous with their records) and it shows my uncle and his wife with this unusual last name. When I went to the daughter's friend page, I found her husband and then looked at his page. Both of his parents were listed (and they had been married forever) and they had a different last name so he had dropped his ordinary last name and took his wife's cool name. I called my other uncle (the oldest of the siblings) and asked him about it. That is when he related the story to me and told me that no one in the family knew any of this, including my own father (2nd oldest child and just older than the man in question). I thought the whole thing was absolutely fascinating. Believe it or not, there is a question in all of this. When my uncle got married, he gave a false name. His wife took that false name as her own (I assume she knew it was false considering all of his siblings had a different last name and his parents had only been married to each other). Their child is also named this false name. LEGALLY, what does it all mean? Is the wife's legal name really the false name or is it my uncle's real last name? What about the child? Michele

Hello, I have been contacted by a potential first client, and ask the collective wisdom on this list how many hours to estimate for completing the process of assisting with her application to DAR. Any help and advice would be very much appreciated! Best regards, Ann Mulfort

Michele Do you have reason to believe that at no time he legally changed his name? I don't know the state where this happened, but the "rule of thumb" *used to be* that you could use any name you wanted, as long as you weren't out to defraud someone. Not anymore. In recent times, I have found that if you want a drivers license, passport, or now, just about any old thing, you have to have some "proof" that you are who you say you are. I would be somewhat surprised that after all these years, that did not happen. Social Security comes to mind. I do have to chuckle, though. What did he talk about at those reunions? Or, was he the best listener there? Pat Dunford -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:14 AM To: TGF Mailing List Subject: [TGF] A weird name scenario One of my uncles was quite a rogue in his youth. He got mad at my grandparents back in the late 70s so he changed his surname to one he made up. It isn't a real surname. It sounds like an American Indian name and very romantic sounding but is isn't a legitimate surname :) . . . . Believe it or not, there is a question in all of this. When my uncle got married, he gave a false name. His wife took that false name as her own (I assume she knew it was false considering all of his siblings had a different last name and his parents had only been married to each other). Their child is also named this false name. LEGALLY, what does it all mean? Is the wife's legal name really the false name or is it my uncle's real last name? What about the child? Michele

Caveat: not a lawyer. Was there an intent to deceive? It doesn't sound like it at any level. I think it's legit. Jill On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:14 AM, "Michele Lewis" <ancestoring@gmail.com> wrote: > One of my uncles was quite a rogue in his youth. He got mad at my > grandparents back in the late 70s so he changed his surname to one he made > up. It isn't a real surname. It sounds like an American Indian name and > very romantic sounding but is isn't a legitimate surname :) He also > changed his first name though that wasn't a dramatic change and people who > knew his given name would have just thought it was a shortened nickname. He > later turned his life around, got married, went to college and became a > teacher. His wife took the same last name. Apparently when they got > married he didn't have to actually prove that was his legal name. They had > one daughter and her birth certificate has this same name on it. This > daughter got married and her husband took HER surname (I can't blame him. > It is really a cool name). My uncle ended up writing two nationally > published middle school textbooks under his assumed name. It is funny to me > when I see his books on Amazon! > > Here is the interesting part. None of the extended family had no idea he > had done any of this. Everyone would see him at reunions and such and they > had no clue he had been living under a totally different name for over 40 > years! No one had a clue that his wife and child were living under this same > new name. Everyone thought their last name was the uncle's birth surname. > Guess how everyone figured it out. Facebook. My uncle is not on Facebook > but his daughter is. Myself and the other genealogists in the family > routinely comb Facebook for possible kin. The daughter has an older half > brother (from my uncle's first marriage) that has the correct surname. The > daughter has an unusual first name so when I was looking at the list of > friends for my cousin (the older half brother) I saw a girl with this > unusual first name but with this cool Indian sounding last name. I knew it > was my cousin but I wrongly assumed she had married someone with that cool > last name and that is how she ended up with it. When I went to her page I > saw her mother (my uncle's wife) with that same last name so then I realized > something was wrong. > > That is when I tracked down the birth certificate for the daughter (Texas > is very generous with their records) and it shows my uncle and his wife with > this unusual last name. When I went to the daughter's friend page, I found > her husband and then looked at his page. Both of his parents were listed > (and they had been married forever) and they had a different last name so he > had dropped his ordinary last name and took his wife's cool name. > > I called my other uncle (the oldest of the siblings) and asked him about it. > That is when he related the story to me and told me that no one in the > family knew any of this, including my own father (2nd oldest child and just > older than the man in question). I thought the whole thing was absolutely > fascinating. > > Believe it or not, there is a question in all of this. When my uncle got > married, he gave a false name. His wife took that false name as her own (I > assume she knew it was false considering all of his siblings had a different > last name and his parents had only been married to each other). Their child > is also named this false name. LEGALLY, what does it all mean? Is the > wife's legal name really the false name or is it my uncle's real last name? > What about the child? > > Michele > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ann, If the applicant has all the documentation required for each generation and all she is asking of you is to fill out the applicantion then it should only take you a couple of hours. Remember that for each and every name, date and place that is entered on the application there must be supporting documentation. Then you must provide proof that links child to parent for each generation from the applicant to the patriot ancestor. Of course if the applicant needs the research done for her, the amount of time needed is a whole research project on its own. Sheri Fenley Stockton, California On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Ann Mulfort <annmulfort@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I have been contacted by a potential first client, and ask the > collective wisdom on this list how many hours to estimate for > completing the process of assisting with her application to DAR. > > Any help and advice would be very much appreciated! > > Best regards, > > Ann Mulfort > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *The Educated Genealogist - Research Services* http://sherifenley.webs.com/ *The Educated Genealogist - The Blog* www.sherifenley.blogspot.com

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At least some ag schedules are available through Midwest Genealogy Center via inter-library loan. They have a pdf on this page: http://www.mymcpl.org/genealogy/resources-genealogy-family-history http://www.mymcpl.org/_uploaded_resources/MGC-microcensus.pdf which lists their holdings of "census" microfilm including ag and manufacturing schedules. On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Michele Lewis <ancestoring@gmail.com>wrote: > Ancestry.com has some of them now. The one I checked was there. They > don't > have all of them (as they don't have all of the mortality schedules) but > some is better than none J J J > > > > Michele > > > > From: MEMcDTT@aol.com [mailto:MEMcDTT@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 2:40 PM > To: ancestoring@gmail.com > Cc: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TGF] middle initial? > > > > Michele, > > Where can you find the agriculture schedules? Years? > > Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA > > > > In a message dated 12/22/2012 1:09:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > ancestoring@gmail.com writes: > > I just pulled up the ag schedule. Well it looks like the mystery letter is > a B :) :) :) > > Michele > > > -----Original Message----- > From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Laurie Huey > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:33 PM > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TGF] middle initial? > > > I can't tell from the image. On the slave schedule, he has no middle > initial, but on the agriculture schedule it is a "B." > > Laurie Huey > Jupiter, FL > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ancestry.com has some of them now. The one I checked was there. They don't have all of them (as they don't have all of the mortality schedules) but some is better than none J J J Michele From: MEMcDTT@aol.com [mailto:MEMcDTT@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 2:40 PM To: ancestoring@gmail.com Cc: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] middle initial? Michele, Where can you find the agriculture schedules? Years? Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA In a message dated 12/22/2012 1:09:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ancestoring@gmail.com writes: I just pulled up the ag schedule. Well it looks like the mystery letter is a B :) :) :) Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Huey Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:33 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] middle initial? I can't tell from the image. On the slave schedule, he has no middle initial, but on the agriculture schedule it is a "B." Laurie Huey Jupiter, FL

Michele, Where can you find the agriculture schedules? Years? Mike McDermott, San Jose, CA In a message dated 12/22/2012 1:09:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ancestoring@gmail.com writes: I just pulled up the ag schedule. Well it looks like the mystery letter is a B :) :) :) Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Huey Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:33 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] middle initial? I can't tell from the image. On the slave schedule, he has no middle initial, but on the agriculture schedule it is a "B." Laurie Huey Jupiter, FL

Vermont Warnings Out was out of print at one point. I'm not sure if it still is. I bought my copies used. It's a great resource. Alden Rollins also similarly compiled _Vermont Religious Certificates_. Cathi Desmarais CG (sm) Stone House Historical Research Vermont Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Martha Grenzeback <graymatters@windstream.net> wrote: > I'm not sure if you ever got an answer--many libraries have this work (ours does): Rollins, Alden M., Vermont Warnings Out (Camden, Me., 1995, 1997, in 2 vols.). I think you can still buy it from Picton Press, or probably on Amazon; or used volumes at bookbinder.com > > Martha Grenzeback > graymatters@windstream.net > > On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Marieta Grissom <marieta.grissom@msn.com> wrote: > >> I'm also interested in this topic. What is the name and author for these volumes? Can they be found elsewhere? >> Thank you. >> >> Marieta A. Grissom, CG (sm) >> Indianola, Iowa >> >> "CG" and "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by authorized associates >> following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations. Certificate No. 990, expires 12 March 2014. >> >> >> >> >>> From: stonehouseresearch@gmail.com >>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:01:38 -0500 >>> To: jns@wvi.com >>> CC: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [TGF] Vermont Warnings Out >>> >>> Sue, this is not online but I have copies of both volumes. I'd be happy to do a quick lookup for you. >>> >>> Cathi Desmarais CG >>> Stone House Historical Research >>> Vermont >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Sue Masse <jns@wvi.com> wrote: >>> >>>> A friend said that she thinks she saw this as a searchable database >>>> online, but I can't find it. Checked NEHGS (in library onsite but not >>>> online), FHL, Ancestry and USGenweb for Vermont. Has anyone seen this >>>> online? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Susan Wallace Masse >>>> A Bridge to the Past >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not sure if you ever got an answer--many libraries have this work (ours does): Rollins, Alden M., Vermont Warnings Out (Camden, Me., 1995, 1997, in 2 vols.). I think you can still buy it from Picton Press, or probably on Amazon; or used volumes at bookbinder.com Martha Grenzeback graymatters@windstream.net On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Marieta Grissom <marieta.grissom@msn.com> wrote: > I'm also interested in this topic. What is the name and author for these volumes? Can they be found elsewhere? > Thank you. > > Marieta A. Grissom, CG (sm) > Indianola, Iowa > > "CG" and "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by authorized associates > following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations. Certificate No. 990, expires 12 March 2014. > > > > >> From: stonehouseresearch@gmail.com >> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:01:38 -0500 >> To: jns@wvi.com >> CC: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TGF] Vermont Warnings Out >> >> Sue, this is not online but I have copies of both volumes. I'd be happy to do a quick lookup for you. >> >> Cathi Desmarais CG >> Stone House Historical Research >> Vermont >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 19, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Sue Masse <jns@wvi.com> wrote: >> >>> A friend said that she thinks she saw this as a searchable database >>> online, but I can't find it. Checked NEHGS (in library onsite but not >>> online), FHL, Ancestry and USGenweb for Vermont. Has anyone seen this >>> online? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Sue >>> >>> -- >>> Susan Wallace Masse >>> A Bridge to the Past >>> >>> >>> >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just pulled up the ag schedule. Well it looks like the mystery letter is a B :) :) :) Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Huey Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:33 PM To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] middle initial? I can't tell from the image. On the slave schedule, he has no middle initial, but on the agriculture schedule it is a "B." Laurie Huey Jupiter, FL The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My poor old eyes would have to say an R. Original Message ----- From: "Michele Lewis" <ancestoring@gmail.com> To: "TGF Mailing List" <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:04 PM Subject: [TGF] middle initial? > Here are two images of the same census page. Anyone want to venture a > guess > on the middle initial of Gaz Sims on line 2? > > > > FamilySearch > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12434-12000-76?cc=1401638 > <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12434-12000-76?cc=1401638&wc=M > MY6-9LV:324283485> &wc=MMY6-9LV:324283485 > > > > Ancestry http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View > <http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=8054&iid=4193235-00366& > fn=Gaz+B&ln=Sims&st=r&ssrc=&pid=18579481> > &r=an&dbid=8054&iid=4193235-00366&fn=Gaz+B&ln=Sims&st=r&ssrc=&pid=18579481 > > > > > > Michele > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > Ernest Leatherman http://sites.google.com/site/maapplegroup/

I can't tell from the image. On the slave schedule, he has no middle initial, but on the agriculture schedule it is a "B." Laurie Huey Jupiter, FL