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I can attest to the fact that although I feel complimented, it would have been nice to know the handout for the "Choosing the Best Educational Opportunities" lecture was being used and in what context. Most lecturers like to know their information useful as well as how it was put to use. I also understand that the video is on FamilySearch.org where societies are encouraged to play videos and use the handout given for their group. This particular video was taped at the APG Professional Management Conference in 2008. An updated workshop will be held at the APG PMC March 20, 2013, at the Radisson in Salt Lake City. www.apgen.org/conferences/index.html In asking for permission to use you might also be offered an updated version of whatever you are asking about, or learn more about how the information came to be created. Tom is correct in that you might gain a collegial relationship from it. Unfortunately, Sandra Luebking is no longer with us but IGHR is. Best wishes, -- Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org registration opens 7 Feb 2013 CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Tom Jones > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:37 AM > > Why don't you ask IGHR? When you ask an author, copyright holder, or publisher to > quote part of their work, you compliment them, act professionally and create a good > impression. Even if the answer is "no," > the result is much better than their later discovering your use of their material and asking > you to take it down. Asking permission also is a contact that may lead to a valued > professional relationship. ---- Tom > > > On 1/11/2013 11:05 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > > I would like to know if I can reprint, in my society's blog, the 8 > > steps to determine if one is an intermediate researcher that I found > > on the IGHR website in. The 8 statements were written by Sandra H > > Luebking to help registrants know what course to register for. I want > > to include those 8 statements in our society blog because Wed evening > > I gave a presentation on genealogy education. > > > > I passed out a form at the presentation created by Elissa Scalise > > Powell from her presentation on "Choosing the Best Educational Opportunities" > > found in the learning courses at FamilySearch.org. The first question > > was to grade your genealogy experience level. I thought giving our > > society members some way to "grade" themselves would be helpful.

Why don't you ask IGHR? When you ask an author, copyright holder, or publisher to quote part of their work, you compliment them, act professionally and create a good impression. Even if the answer is "no," the result is much better than their later discovering your use of their material and asking you to take it down. Asking permission also is a contact that may lead to a valued professional relationship. ---- Tom On 1/11/2013 11:05 AM, M. A. Beldin wrote: > I would like to know if I can reprint, in my society's blog, the 8 steps > to determine if one is an intermediate researcher that I found on the IGHR > website in. The 8 statements were written by Sandra H Luebking to help > registrants know what course to register for. I want to include those 8 > statements in our society blog because Wed evening I gave a presentation on > genealogy education. > > I passed out a form at the presentation created by Elissa Scalise Powell > from her presentation on "Choosing the Best Educational Opportunities" > found in the learning courses at FamilySearch.org. The first question was > to grade your genealogy experience level. I thought giving our society > members some way to "grade" themselves would be helpful. > > I just found these 8 statements at IGHR and would like to copy and paste > them into my blog giving full source and citation and, therefore, credit to > IGHR and Sandra Luebking. Is that sufficient to allow use of this work? > > from the Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research (IGHR) ( > http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/IGHR_Course02.html) > > *What's an "Intermediate"? Or should I take Course 1 or Course 2?* > > > 1. An intermediate is familiar with at least one basic how-to guide, > i.e., Morgan's *How to Do Everything with Your Genealogy*, Porter and > Crow's *Online Roots*, or Renick's *Genealogy 101.* > 2. An intermediate has mastered basic record keeping skills: can > properly complete a pedigree and family group sheet, and research log; can > maintain and organize the genealogical data they have collected; knows a > numbering system; and knows how to link entries to properly cited sources. > 3. An intermediate has researched in at least one line, four > generations, including themselves, or back to 1880, using all records > described in IGHR-Course I and citing them properly. > 4. An intermediate has conducted 20 or more hours research in a > genealogical or historical library AND 20 or more hours research at The > Family History Library or a Center. An intermediate has conducted 20 or > more hours research in a courthouse. > 5. An intermediate has written an appropriate letter of inquiry or > placed a coherent query online or in a periodical. > 6. An intermediate has properly abstracted and cited an original will or > deed, and extracted a census entry accurately, and understands the > difference between an original and derivative source. > 7. An intermediate has become reasonably proficient in the use of the > more common 20th century county sources, i.e., vitals, newspapers, > cemeteries, probate, and land records, as well as post-1880 federal > censuses. > 8. An intermediate belongs to one or more genealogical societies and is > aware of the national-level groups. > > Prepared by Sandra H. Luebking > > > > Thanks > Margie in Washington State > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When you copy something in its entirety you have gone past the principle of "fair use." You would need permission from the author. If you don't want to do that, you can just give the website address for the IGHR page you are referencing and let your readers access it themselves. You could type up an intro paragraph introducing it and explaining why you think it is so helpful. Hmmmmm... I feel a blog post of my own starting to form :) Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of M. A. Beldin Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:06 AM To: Transitional-Genealogists-Forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] Reprinting info from another website I would like to know if I can reprint, in my society's blog, the 8 steps to determine if one is an intermediate researcher that I found on the IGHR website in. The 8 statements were written by Sandra H Luebking to help registrants know what course to register for. I want to include those 8 statements in our society blog because Wed evening I gave a presentation on genealogy education. I passed out a form at the presentation created by Elissa Scalise Powell from her presentation on "Choosing the Best Educational Opportunities" found in the learning courses at FamilySearch.org. The first question was to grade your genealogy experience level. I thought giving our society members some way to "grade" themselves would be helpful. I just found these 8 statements at IGHR and would like to copy and paste them into my blog giving full source and citation and, therefore, credit to IGHR and Sandra Luebking. Is that sufficient to allow use of this work? from the Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research (IGHR) ( http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/IGHR_Course02.html) *What's an "Intermediate"? Or should I take Course 1 or Course 2?* 1. An intermediate is familiar with at least one basic how-to guide, i.e., Morgan's *How to Do Everything with Your Genealogy*, Porter and Crow's *Online Roots*, or Renick's *Genealogy 101.* 2. An intermediate has mastered basic record keeping skills: can properly complete a pedigree and family group sheet, and research log; can maintain and organize the genealogical data they have collected; knows a numbering system; and knows how to link entries to properly cited sources. 3. An intermediate has researched in at least one line, four generations, including themselves, or back to 1880, using all records described in IGHR-Course I and citing them properly. 4. An intermediate has conducted 20 or more hours research in a genealogical or historical library AND 20 or more hours research at The Family History Library or a Center. An intermediate has conducted 20 or more hours research in a courthouse. 5. An intermediate has written an appropriate letter of inquiry or placed a coherent query online or in a periodical. 6. An intermediate has properly abstracted and cited an original will or deed, and extracted a census entry accurately, and understands the difference between an original and derivative source. 7. An intermediate has become reasonably proficient in the use of the more common 20th century county sources, i.e., vitals, newspapers, cemeteries, probate, and land records, as well as post-1880 federal censuses. 8. An intermediate belongs to one or more genealogical societies and is aware of the national-level groups. Prepared by Sandra H. Luebking Thanks Margie in Washington State The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I found naturalization index cards on Fold3 (and Ancestry) for Joseph Kreutzmann (NY Common Pleas Court, 12 June 1866) and Samuel Kritzmann (NY Common Pleas Court, 21 Apr 1882). My question is, is it worth going after the actual naturalization records? Will they have specific information about their date & place of birth, and date of immigration? And where would these records be held? Thanks, Claudia

First, let me apologize to Mrs. Luebking's family and associates for copying and pasting her statements into my email query. That, in fact, is a violation of copyright and I am embarrassed to have made such a faux pas. Thanks to Michelle and Tom for their suggestions. Yes, I have absolutely NO problem writing to IGHR and requesting permission. I am in no hurry to publish the blog (well, within the next week or so would be timely) so I have time to seek permission before publication. My apologies to Elissa for not asking permission either. Because I found the form in a "teaching" format, it did not dawn on me I should request permission to use it. I will seek forgiveness and permission in an off-list email. I will qualify in the society blog the meaning of "intermediate". I did speak to that during my presentation helping the audience understand each of us has experience in different areas thus making us a beginner in one area but an intermediate or advanced genealogist in another. Thanks to all on the list for their help and again, my sincerest apologies for violating the copyright of Mrs. Luebking and the IGHR website. Margie Beldin Washington State

Defining what is meant by "intermediate" is a good idea. Remember that this definition was created for a specific purpose at IGHR. Keep your audience in mind. You may want to suggest a definition that more closely relates to your society. Are you showing an example definition? Defining class levels for a workshop? Experience levels of researchers on a list? Charlene M. Pipkin, AG® >________________________________ > From: M. A. Beldin <mabeldin@gmail.com> >I would like to know if I can reprint, in my society's blog,  the 8 steps >to determine if one is an intermediate researcher that I found on the IGHR >website in. The 8 statements were written by Sandra H Luebking to help >registrants know what course to register for. > >

I would like to know if I can reprint, in my society's blog, the 8 steps to determine if one is an intermediate researcher that I found on the IGHR website in. The 8 statements were written by Sandra H Luebking to help registrants know what course to register for. I want to include those 8 statements in our society blog because Wed evening I gave a presentation on genealogy education. I passed out a form at the presentation created by Elissa Scalise Powell from her presentation on "Choosing the Best Educational Opportunities" found in the learning courses at FamilySearch.org. The first question was to grade your genealogy experience level. I thought giving our society members some way to "grade" themselves would be helpful. I just found these 8 statements at IGHR and would like to copy and paste them into my blog giving full source and citation and, therefore, credit to IGHR and Sandra Luebking. Is that sufficient to allow use of this work? from the Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research (IGHR) ( http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/IGHR_Course02.html) *What's an "Intermediate"? Or should I take Course 1 or Course 2?* 1. An intermediate is familiar with at least one basic how-to guide, i.e., Morgan's *How to Do Everything with Your Genealogy*, Porter and Crow's *Online Roots*, or Renick's *Genealogy 101.* 2. An intermediate has mastered basic record keeping skills: can properly complete a pedigree and family group sheet, and research log; can maintain and organize the genealogical data they have collected; knows a numbering system; and knows how to link entries to properly cited sources. 3. An intermediate has researched in at least one line, four generations, including themselves, or back to 1880, using all records described in IGHR-Course I and citing them properly. 4. An intermediate has conducted 20 or more hours research in a genealogical or historical library AND 20 or more hours research at The Family History Library or a Center. An intermediate has conducted 20 or more hours research in a courthouse. 5. An intermediate has written an appropriate letter of inquiry or placed a coherent query online or in a periodical. 6. An intermediate has properly abstracted and cited an original will or deed, and extracted a census entry accurately, and understands the difference between an original and derivative source. 7. An intermediate has become reasonably proficient in the use of the more common 20th century county sources, i.e., vitals, newspapers, cemeteries, probate, and land records, as well as post-1880 federal censuses. 8. An intermediate belongs to one or more genealogical societies and is aware of the national-level groups. Prepared by Sandra H. Luebking Thanks Margie in Washington State

For those who have not seen this, the registration schedule for Samford University's Institute of Genealogy and Historical Research's ten courses has been released. They stagger the courses in order to not overload the system. They also can sell out within minutes of the registration opening. In that case do get on the waitlist since things do happen between January 22 and June 9. The courses themselves are offered concurrently June 9-14. You receive an in-depth education on the topic and get to know your classmates and instructors in a campus atmosphere. Many friendships and lasting collegial relationships are formed at institutes where you study and eat together. Prioritize your courses now and look over their website. Plan which ones you might be interested in this year or next year (not all courses are offered every year). Create your continuing education plan along with other opportunities offered this year. Look for scholarships if budget is a concern. See you there! -- Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org registration opens 7 Feb 2013 CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:29 AM > > This message is to let you know that registration for this summer's Institute of Genealogy > and Historical Research (IGHR) will open on Tuesday, January 22, 2013. > > To prevent an overload of the online registration system, the opening of course > registration will be staggered with different courses being opened each half-hour. The > registration schedule will be as follows: > > Opening at 10:00 AM CST: > Course 1: Techniques & Technology > Course 4: Advanced Methodology and Evidence Analysis > > Opening at 10:30 AM CST: > Course 3: Research in the South, Part II Course 6: Genealogy as a Profession Course 9: > The Five Civilized Tribes > > Opening at 11:00 AM CST: > Course 2: Intermediate Genealogy and Historical Studies Course 8: Understanding Land > Records > > Opening at 11:30 AM CST: > Course 7: Reading German Records > Course 5: Writing and Publishing for Genealogists Course 10: Scottish Genealogical > Research > > Every year, some courses fill up in a matter of minutes so be sure to be wherever you have > your fastest internet connection at registration time. > > Each time a new set of courses opens for registration, an email will be sent to the IGHR-L > list. If you do not wish to receive these emails, please unsubscribe from the list at: > <http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/ighr-l> http://maillists.samford.edu/mailman/listinfo/ighr-l > > The Institute itself will take place on June 9-14, 2013. > > For more information, including the courses being offered and how to register on the Jan. > 22, visit the IGHR website at <http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/> http://www4.samford.edu/schools/ighr/. > > We hope to see you this summer!

My interpretation of your question may differ from the other responses. 1. FamilySearch accepts donations. I suggest that the material be put in a PDF for submission. That way it can be scanned as a family history book, made every-name searchable, and available online for free. 2. Another free option: WikiTree. Privacy options are available. 3. State and regional genealogical publications welcome contributions of relevant, well-documented material. These are indexed by PERSI (although not every-name indexed). Best wishes, Charlene M. Pipkin, Accredited Genealogist® >________________________________ > From: Cohen Swiney > >I am in need of some suggestions from the group.  I am working with a client who would like for me to place his family tree data on the internet.  Suggestions for the best vehicle to do so, both paid or free.  Client in interested in making the data available for others to access.  The collection seems well documented and thorough.  Thanks in advance for your input.  I really am learning lots through this group and certainly appreciate everyone's contributions. >

BOARD FOR CERTIFICATION OF GENEALOGISTS P. O. Box 14291 Washington, DC 20044 For Immediate Release DATE: 8 January 2013 SUBJECT: BCG’s New Blog: *SpringBoard: News and Notes* The 49-year-old Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG), the group that wrote the book on genealogical standards, recently joined the blogosphere with its blog, *SpringBoard: News and Notes, *accessed from http://www.BCGcertification.org. According to BCG president Elissa Scalise Powell, CGSM, CGLSM, of Pennsylvania, the blog will communicate news about BCG and events it sponsors or participates in. Early posts introduced officers Powell; vice-president Michal Ramage, J.D., CG, of Pennsylvania; secretary Dawne Slater-Putt, CG, of Indiana; treasurer Jeanne Larzalere Bloom, CG, of Illinois; and member-at-large Stefani Evans, CG, of Nevada; and gave notice of a fee change effective January 1. Another post announced new audio clips from three Board-certified genealogists describing why they chose to seek certification. Future posts will come from BCG officers, trustees, and committee members and will include - names and profiles of new certificants (whose portfolios of work have been judged to meet the standards set out in the *BCG Genealogical Standards Manual*), - news of conferences and events where BCG will have a presence through exhibit booths, lectures, certification seminars, and social events, and - information, advice, and explanation on genealogy standards, the certification procedures, and other items of interest. In addition a current-events calendar lists where BCG will have a presence. Anyone may subscribe to email notifications of new posts from the site as well. Using blog software through its website allows BCG to communicate more frequently than its triannual newsletter, *OnBoard*, to which anyone may subscribe for a yearly fee. The organization also has a presence on Facebook (currently open to the public) and LinkedIn® (for associates). Said Powell, “We enjoy being able to offer timely news and notes to help advance the mission we began in 1964–defining, supporting, explaining, and advocating high standards in genealogy.” FYI: BCG is an independent certifying body recognized nationally and internationally. It is not affiliated with, or part of, any group. More information is available at * http://www.bcgcertification.org/aboutbcg/index.html*. Certified Genealogist, Certified Genealogical Lecturer, CG and CGL are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency and evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates. The Board’s name is registered with the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office. # # # # # # Contact Information: Nicki Birch, CG, Executive Director for BCG*office@BCGcertification.org* * www.BCGcertification.org* -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

I just found a Philadelphia Birth Record from 1894 listing the occupation of the father as Tavern Pat O'Donnell Kuhn On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:00 AM, < transitional-genealogists-forum-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Retired Spinster (AGilchrest@aol.com) > 2. Re: Retired Spinster (Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG) > 3. New year and taxes (Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist) > 4. Re: Retired Spinster (Janet Evertsen) > 5. Re: Retired Spinster (Ida Nystrom) > 6. Re: Retired Spinster (AGilchrest@aol.com) > 7. Re: Retired Spinster (Karen Rhodes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:15:40 -0500 (EST) > From: AGilchrest@aol.com > Subject: [TGF] Retired Spinster > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8eee.7e5746f0.3e1dd86a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from Pennsylvania > is > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > Ann Gilchrest > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:04:23 -0500 > From: "Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG" <sully1@carolina.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Retired Spinster > To: AGilchrest@aol.com > Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <50EC89D7.4040602@carolina.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? > > Kathy > > > On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate > > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from > Pennsylvania is > > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > > > Ann Gilchrest > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 13:18:36 -0800 (PST) > From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" > <king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> > Subject: [TGF] New year and taxes > To: Transitional Genealogists forum > <transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > 1805991556.52515677.1357679916447.JavaMail.root@forensicgenealogyservices.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Now is a great time to take a look at the 2013 tax changes and make plans > for the coming year. Last night I saw that my tax rate probably will not > change. Oh Boy! :-) Income adjusted for deductions and credits will > probably remain close to the same and the tax rates stayed the same. > > But the Social Security tax for the self-employed has gone back up to > 12.4% from 10.4%. Now we have to set aside 2% more each payday to cover > those quarterly estimated tax payments. > > Self-employed get a triple whammy. We have to pay last year's 4th quarter > taxes on January 15th of the new year. We have to pay any extra for the > previous year by April 15th. And we have to pay our 1st quarter of the new > year by April 15th as well. [The 15th or the next business day if the 15th > is a weekend or holiday.] > > Food for thought for those thinking about starting a new business - and > those with existing businesses. > > best regards, > Dee > > > > > -- > Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 > Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch > Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute > http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html > Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 > Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 > www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html > www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist > > Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for > Certification of Genealogists?, conferred to associates who consistently > meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed > evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US > Patent & Trademark Office. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 16:40:06 -0500 > From: Janet Evertsen <j.evertsen2@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Retired Spinster > To: Transitional Genealogists > <TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CAPWTAT8kpfgw+3R2T-yaJm_8r98rC-5seEAEqttFu-YhBTa5MQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > When Kathy's response came through, I saw that "Housewife" disappeared. > Even retired spinsters need to do housework! > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG < > sully1@carolina.rr.com> wrote: > > > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? > > > > Kathy > > > > > > On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > > > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death > certificate > > > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from > > Pennsylvania is > > > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > > > > > Ann Gilchrest > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition > to > > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition > to > > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:53:36 -0500 > From: Ida Nystrom <inystrom@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Retired Spinster > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <50EC9560.60709@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I have a death certificate for a relative who died in 1911. It lists > her as "retired housewife". Even the town clerk laughed when she saw that. > On 1/8/2013 4:04 PM, Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG wrote: > > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? > > > > Kathy > > > > > > On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > >> I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death > certificate > >> in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from > Pennsylvania is > >> "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > >> > >> Ann Gilchrest > >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 17:19:36 -0500 (EST) > From: AGilchrest@aol.com > Subject: Re: [TGF] Retired Spinster > To: TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d5b7.48463a31.3e1df578@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Kathy wrote: > > > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? > > She died 31 May 1943 > > Ann Gilchrest > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:28:35 -0500 > From: Karen Rhodes <bitbucket001@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Retired Spinster > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <50ECF1F3.2050909@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate > > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from > Pennsylvania is > > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > > > > > > In the 1935 Florida state census, in an example I use on my talk on > "Quirks in the Florida State Census," there is one man whose occupation > was listed as "lobster." > > I'm sure he was a lobsterman, and the enumerator didn't have enough room > for the qualifying suffix "-man." But it's certainly good for a laugh. > > Karen Packard Rhodes > Currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 7, Issue 13 > ************************************************************** >

On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from Pennsylvania is > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > In the 1935 Florida state census, in an example I use on my talk on "Quirks in the Florida State Census," there is one man whose occupation was listed as "lobster." I'm sure he was a lobsterman, and the enumerator didn't have enough room for the qualifying suffix "-man." But it's certainly good for a laugh. Karen Packard Rhodes Currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida

Kathy wrote: > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? She died 31 May 1943 Ann Gilchrest

I have a death certificate for a relative who died in 1911. It lists her as "retired housewife". Even the town clerk laughed when she saw that. On 1/8/2013 4:04 PM, Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG wrote: > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? > > Kathy > > > On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: >> I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate >> in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from Pennsylvania is >> "retired spinster." I am still laughing. >> >> Ann Gilchrest >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

When Kathy's response came through, I saw that "Housewife" disappeared. Even retired spinsters need to do housework! On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Kathy Gunter Sullivan, CG < sully1@carolina.rr.com> wrote: > Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation > was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? > > Kathy > > > On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate > > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from > Pennsylvania is > > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > > > Ann Gilchrest > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Interesting. What was her death date? Any chance that her occupation was Spinster (spinner of materials into fabric)? Kathy On 1/8/2013 3:15 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate > in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from Pennsylvania is > "retired spinster." I am still laughing. > > Ann Gilchrest > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I just have to share. I was just putting my Great Aunts death certificate in by database. Her occupation of her death certificate from Pennsylvania is "retired spinster." I am still laughing. Ann Gilchrest

Now is a great time to take a look at the 2013 tax changes and make plans for the coming year. Last night I saw that my tax rate probably will not change. Oh Boy! :-) Income adjusted for deductions and credits will probably remain close to the same and the tax rates stayed the same. But the Social Security tax for the self-employed has gone back up to 12.4% from 10.4%. Now we have to set aside 2% more each payday to cover those quarterly estimated tax payments. Self-employed get a triple whammy. We have to pay last year's 4th quarter taxes on January 15th of the new year. We have to pay any extra for the previous year by April 15th. And we have to pay our 1st quarter of the new year by April 15th as well. [The 15th or the next business day if the 15th is a weekend or holiday.] Food for thought for those thinking about starting a new business - and those with existing businesses. best regards, Dee -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Thank you Frank I went to the West Yorkshire Archive website and found a listing for Thomas Taylor's ledgers. Now to find a way to get a copy. Ann In a message dated 07-Jan-13 09:30:56 US Mountain Standard Time, southfran@aol.com writes: Try contacting the West Yorkshire Archive Service directly for their suggestion... _www_ (http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/) _.archives_ (http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/) _.wyjs_ (http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/) _.org_ (http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/) _.uk_ (http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/) / Cheers, Frank Sent from my android device. -----Original Message----- From: AGilchrest@aol.com To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 6:57 Subject: [TGF] Yorkshire England Coroners Inquest I have a death record from the Dewsbury PRO, in the box for informant is "Certificate received from Thomas Taylor Coroner for Yorkshire Inquest held 15 May 1893" I searched the catalogue at FamilySearch but didn't find any records from the Coroner. Does anyone know if these records are available for research and where they might be located? The cause of death that generated the inquest was a fall due to hanging clothes up to dry. Thank you, Ann Gilchrest The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to _TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com) with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message