Greetings Everyone, Last week I attended a family history event in Arizona as a presenter. I live in Canada. I woke up presentation day with a headache. As I prepared in my hotel room to go through my presentations, I discovered I had forgotten the projector connector cord for my Mac. The cord was still on my desk at home. Slight panic attack. Fortunately, there was a computer place close to hotel that had the cord I needed. Meanwhile, my headache was progressing to the point where the light was starting to hurt my eyes. I returned to the hotel only to realize I had the wrong computer cord. I made a second trip to the computer store with my computer in hand, and purchased the correct connector cord. Whew! By this time, my headache was so bad, I thought I was going to be sick. I stopped at local Walmart to get headache medicine on the way back to the hotel. Back in my hotel room, I took the medicine with the hope that it would work. All I wanted to do was sleep, but there was no time for that. Two hours to go until presentation time. Just as I successfully got the computer and projector set up, the lamp on my projector burned out! At that point, I was starting to think that I wouldn't be presenting at all. Anyway, the conference organizers had extra projectors, and by the time my presentation began, my headache calmed down enough I could present without being nauseous. Even when we think we are prepared, there are times when things like this happen. Kathryn Lake Hogan UE, PLCGS http://about.me/looking4ancestors

Tryel, that is to say, trial. Spelling was not a strong point back then, you know. Karen Packard Rhodes currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida On 1/25/2013 4:47 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > I need some help with a word in a will, Washington County, New York, Wills > vol. 3 p. 121 at this link on Family Search > > _https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc= > MM5Y-DXC:909508860_ > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc=MM5Y-DXC:909508860) > > 7th line from the bottom > > ...discover after ______ that he will take education and that the > > Thanks, > Ann Gilchrest >

The main reason I went to the Georgia Archives yesterday was to see Calvin Russell Lewis’ probate file. These records were transferred to the Georgia Archives from the Columbia County courthouse in the 1980s and they were never microfilmed. I was hoping that Calvin’s alleged father John Lewis had been made administrator but no such luck. I did find something interesting/puzzling though. Calvin Russell Lewis was born 23 Feb 1824 in North Carolina (Wayne County, most likely). He died on 26 Jan 1851 in Columbia County, Georgia. He was only 26 when he died so it was no surprise that he died intestate. Calvin was married and had 2 small children, ages one and two. Calvin did not own any land and on the 1850 census he was listed as “overseer for Burt” which would be Moody Burt listed as a planter on the same page. Calvin’s wife Emily (Miles) Lewis was named administrix of the estate. The inventory of his possessions amounted to $142.87. You would think that this would be a cut and dried case with a very thin probate packet but that wasn’t the case. His probate drug out for 12 years and I am not sure why. One of the odd things found was there were several people that paid IN to the estate. Emily collected over $2300! These people apparently owed Calvin money. After reading the probate file I am beginning to think he was a loan shark or something. The archi! vist at the Archives looked over the entire probate file with me and he couldn’t figure it out either. He is pretty accepting of the loan shark theory though☺ Michele

discover after Tryel that he will take education and that the On 1/25/2013 4:47 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > I need some help with a word in a will, Washington County, New York, Wills > vol. 3 p. 121 at this link on Family Search > > _https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc= > MM5Y-DXC:909508860_ > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc=MM5Y-DXC:909508860) > > 7th line from the bottom > > ...discover after ______ that he will take education and that the > > Thanks, > Ann Gilchrest > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tryel meaning trial makes sense in the context of the will. Thank you everyone! In a message dated 25-Jan-13 14:59:12 US Mountain Standard Time, 6500lzim@gmail.com writes: Is that "Tryel" -- meaning trial? "...discover after [Tryel] that he will take education and that the" Leon E. Zimlich 6500lzim@gmail.com On 1/25/2013 3:47 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > ...discover after ______ that he will take education and that the

I need some help with a word in a will, Washington County, New York, Wills vol. 3 p. 121 at this link on Family Search _https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc= MM5Y-DXC:909508860_ (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc=MM5Y-DXC:909508860) 7th line from the bottom ...discover after ______ that he will take education and that the Thanks, Ann Gilchrest

Is that "Tryel" -- meaning trial? "...discover after [Tryel] that he will take education and that the" Leon E. Zimlich 6500lzim@gmail.com On 1/25/2013 3:47 PM, AGilchrest@aol.com wrote: > ...discover after ______ that he will take education and that the >

Tryel = trial On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:47 PM, <AGilchrest@aol.com> wrote: > I need some help with a word in a will, Washington County, New York, Wills > vol. 3 p. 121 at this link on Family Search > > _ > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc= > MM5Y-DXC:909508860_ > ( > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-24594-16342-54?cc=1920234&wc=MM5Y-DXC:909508860 > ) > > 7th line from the bottom > > ...discover after ______ that he will take education and that the > > Thanks, > Ann Gilchrest > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

I would love to go to IGHR but June is typically a difficult month in my schedule due to family events. This year is my mother's 90th in mid-June so it was out of the question. I am going to NERGC in April and the APG PMC/RootsTech conference in SLC in March. I really looking forward to the PMC, especially your presentation, Elissa. I also want to have a better grasp on the right mix of instruction, practice, and reflection in scheduling these opportunities.

I have not found much on newspapers.com but before you buy, go to Browse, then click on United States, choose a state, city and see what newspapers and years they have. They may only have one or two issues for a year. I use GenealogyBank, WorldVital Records, and NewspaperArchive. Dawn -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janis L Gilmore Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:03 AM To: Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com; Molly Subject: Re: [TGF] Opinions on newspapers.com? I have found both NewpaperArchive.com and GenealogyBank.com to be more than useful. I have yet to find anything on newspapers.com, though I did sign up and try it. Of course, as we know, it depends to some extent on the geography of your work. Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist wrote: > Has anyone looked at their lists of offerings and made a comparison? I subscribe to both newspaperarchive.com and genealogybank.com. Even at only $39, newspapers.com would have to offer what the other two did not have to draw my attention. > > I agree with your assessment of archive.com, and add worldvitalrecords.com to the list I tried and found not worth giving them my money. > > best regards, > > Dee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Molly" <mkcindc@yahoo.com> > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09:16 AM > Subject: [TGF] Opinions on newspapers.com? > > As you all know, there are lots if sites we can subscribe to. Given the discount Fold3 is offering to members for newspapers.com, I thought it prudent to leverage the collective wisdom of the group. Is an annual subscription worth it (for $40)? I do have one to newspaperarchive.com and have had great success - as long as the people I'm looking for we're in one of the major cities. Would they be about the same? > > I ask bc I did get a subscription to Archives.com and have been very disappointed - at least for the people I need, they've had only the same index info I find on familysearch and ancestry. > > Thanks for your insights! > ~KC~ > www.finddeeperroots.com > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat also asked if the APG Professional Management Conference (PMC) was going to be held at RootsTech. Better than that it is the day before in the hotel next to the Salt Palace. This means you won't miss one minute of one or the other and can attend both! See you there, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org registration opens 7 Feb 2013 CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are Service Marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations by the Board and the board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of corey@genealogyheroes.com > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:10 PM > > Pat wrote: > "I'm not sure what APG "PMC" is and where? I didn't find it on the website." > > > Hi Pat, > I'm glad you asked. APG's Professional Management Conference ( > http://www.apgen.org/conferences/index.html )is coming up in Salt Lake City in March. > > Details below. It's open to APG members and non-members and you can sign up for the > entire conference or a single day. Early bird discounts end 15 February. > > Hope you can make it! > Corey Browder Oiesen > Communications Officer > Association of Professional Genealogists > ------------------------------------------------------ > Association of Professional Genealogists Professional Management Conference > 19-20 March, 2012 > Salt Lake City, Utah > > Speakers and Sessions: > > Thomas W. Jones, Ph.D., CG, CGL, FASG, FUGA, FNGS > •Workshop: Overcoming Research Barriers---An Interactive Case Study; •Variables in > Professional Genealogists’ Approaches to Research; •Client Reports: Dos, Don’t, and > Maybes > > Judy G. Russell, J.D., CG > Wednesday, 20 March 2012 > •Order in the Court: Hands-on with Court Records; •More Than the Begats: Using the > Law to Spice up a Research Report > > Thomas MacEntee > Launching an Effective Marketing Campaign > > Lisa Louise Cooke > Video Marketing: Killer YouTube Strategies > > Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL > The Best Educational Plan for You: The Workshop > > Jean Wilcox Hibben, Ph.D., M.A., CG > Organization for Genealogy Speakers > > APG will also hold at reception and roundtable from 6:30–8:30 p.m. on Wednesday, 20 > March, which is open to members and non-members. > > Register Now for APG PMC 2013 > Attendance at PMC is open to members and non-members. Attendees may choose to > attend the full conference or a single day. Details on pricing and the conference sessions > are available at http://www.apgen.org/conferences/index.html . > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for > genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please > respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL- > GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat wrote: "I'm not sure what APG "PMC" is and where? I didn't find it on the website." Hi Pat, I'm glad you asked. APG's Professional Management Conference ( http://www.apgen.org/conferences/index.html )is coming up in Salt Lake City in March. Details below. It's open to APG members and non-members and you can sign up for the entire conference or a single day. Early bird discounts end 15 February. Hope you can make it! Corey Browder Oiesen Communications Officer Association of Professional Genealogists ------------------------------------------------------ Association of Professional Genealogists Professional Management Conference 19-20 March, 2012 Salt Lake City, Utah Speakers and Sessions: Thomas W. Jones, Ph.D., CG, CGL, FASG, FUGA, FNGS •Workshop: Overcoming Research Barriers---An Interactive Case Study; •Variables in Professional Genealogists’ Approaches to Research; •Client Reports: Dos, Don’t, and Maybes Judy G. Russell, J.D., CG Wednesday, 20 March 2012 •Order in the Court: Hands-on with Court Records; •More Than the Begats: Using the Law to Spice up a Research Report Thomas MacEntee Launching an Effective Marketing Campaign Lisa Louise Cooke Video Marketing: Killer YouTube Strategies Elissa Scalise Powell, CG, CGL The Best Educational Plan for You: The Workshop Jean Wilcox Hibben, Ph.D., M.A., CG Organization for Genealogy Speakers APG will also hold at reception and roundtable from 6:30–8:30 p.m. on Wednesday, 20 March, which is open to members and non-members. Register Now for APG PMC 2013 Attendance at PMC is open to members and non-members. Attendees may choose to attend the full conference or a single day. Details on pricing and the conference sessions are available at http://www.apgen.org/conferences/index.html .

I need help to determine the court which would have heard and decreed on the behalf of the Governor....at least as it's stated. The action against the defendants resulted in a sheriff's sale in Jefferson County, GA as recorded in a Louisville, GA newspaper dated 1803. Louisville was the capital of the state at the time. Superior Court? Inferior Court? State Court? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks all. Greg Hilton Sent from my iPod

Anyone going to the Georgia Archives tomorrow (Friday)? Michele

I have found both NewpaperArchive.com and GenealogyBank.com to be more than useful. I have yet to find anything on newspapers.com, though I did sign up and try it. Of course, as we know, it depends to some extent on the geography of your work. Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist wrote: > Has anyone looked at their lists of offerings and made a comparison? I subscribe to both newspaperarchive.com and genealogybank.com. Even at only $39, newspapers.com would have to offer what the other two did not have to draw my attention. > > I agree with your assessment of archive.com, and add worldvitalrecords.com to the list I tried and found not worth giving them my money. > > best regards, > > Dee > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Molly" <mkcindc@yahoo.com> > To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09:16 AM > Subject: [TGF] Opinions on newspapers.com? > > As you all know, there are lots if sites we can subscribe to. Given the discount Fold3 is offering to members for newspapers.com, I thought it prudent to leverage the collective wisdom of the group. Is an annual subscription worth it (for $40)? I do have one to newspaperarchive.com and have had great success - as long as the people I'm looking for we're in one of the major cities. Would they be about the same? > > I ask bc I did get a subscription to Archives.com and have been very disappointed - at least for the people I need, they've had only the same index info I find on familysearch and ancestry. > > Thanks for your insights! > ~KC~ > www.finddeeperroots.com > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would be most interested in learning which for pay web sites are considered "the best bang for the buck" without duplicating too much. Thanks, Connie Bradshaw In a message dated 1/24/2013 9:22:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, king@forensicgenealogyservices.com writes: Has anyone looked at their lists of offerings and made a comparison? I subscribe to both newspaperarchive.com and genealogybank.com. Even at only $39, newspapers.com would have to offer what the other two did not have to draw my attention. I agree with your assessment of archive.com, and add worldvitalrecords.com to the list I tried and found not worth giving them my money. best regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly" <mkcindc@yahoo.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09:16 AM Subject: [TGF] Opinions on newspapers.com? As you all know, there are lots if sites we can subscribe to. Given the discount Fold3 is offering to members for newspapers.com, I thought it prudent to leverage the collective wisdom of the group. Is an annual subscription worth it (for $40)? I do have one to newspaperarchive.com and have had great success - as long as the people I'm looking for we're in one of the major cities. Would they be about the same? I ask bc I did get a subscription to Archives.com and have been very disappointed - at least for the people I need, they've had only the same index info I find on familysearch and ancestry. Thanks for your insights! ~KC~ www.finddeeperroots.com The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did a comparison of the service to both NewspaperArchive and GenealogyBank when it was first announced: http://genealogy.about.com/b/2012/12/01/why-newspapers-com.htm They've since added another 6 million newspaper pages, but I don't know how many of these are exclusive to Newspapers.com. They do offer a 7-day free trial. You are required to give a credit-card, but you CAN cancel online within the 7 days. You can also browse the lists of available newspaper issues and dates without subscribing at all. Those lists exist on NewspaperArchive and GenealogyBank as well. Hope this helps! Kimberly On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist < king@forensicgenealogyservices.com> wrote: > Has anyone looked at their lists of offerings and made a comparison? I > subscribe to both newspaperarchive.com and genealogybank.com. Even at > only $39, newspapers.com would have to offer what the other two did not > have to draw my attention. >

Some of us must have trusted certificates in order to log into some internet sites. If you get an email entitled ADP Generated Message: Final Notice - Digital Certificate Expiration or anything similar, don't open it. It points to malware. -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy Casualty POW/MIA Branch Co-Director, Forensic Genealogy Institute http://www.forensicgenealogists.com/forensic-genealogy-institute.html Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/NavyCasualty.html www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

I have always been curious about Newspaper Archive, and wondering if the full version offers any advantage over the library version, which I'm able to access at home from my local library. Recently I saw an offer on the APG Member Discount Program (http://www.apgen.org/members/discounts.html) for a 1-month free subscription to Newspaper Archive. When I called the company to set it up, I asked if there was any difference, and the customer service representative said no. A little research on my part verified that answer. So, if you're able to access Newspaper Archive through your local library, don't spend money on a subscription! I have found GenealogyBank worth the money, and have subscribed to it for almost 5 years now. Claudia Breland -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rvsailor@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:39 AM To: king@forensicgenealogyservices.com; mkcindc@yahoo.com Cc: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TGF] Opinions on newspapers.com? I would be most interested in learning which for pay web sites are considered "the best bang for the buck" without duplicating too much. Thanks, Connie Bradshaw In a message dated 1/24/2013 9:22:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, king@forensicgenealogyservices.com writes: Has anyone looked at their lists of offerings and made a comparison? I subscribe to both newspaperarchive.com and genealogybank.com. Even at only $39, newspapers.com would have to offer what the other two did not have to draw my attention. I agree with your assessment of archive.com, and add worldvitalrecords.com to the list I tried and found not worth giving them my money. best regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly" <mkcindc@yahoo.com> To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09:16 AM Subject: [TGF] Opinions on newspapers.com? As you all know, there are lots if sites we can subscribe to. Given the discount Fold3 is offering to members for newspapers.com, I thought it prudent to leverage the collective wisdom of the group. Is an annual subscription worth it (for $40)? I do have one to newspaperarchive.com and have had great success - as long as the people I'm looking for we're in one of the major cities. Would they be about the same? I ask bc I did get a subscription to Archives.com and have been very disappointed - at least for the people I need, they've had only the same index info I find on familysearch and ancestry. Thanks for your insights! ~KC~ www.finddeeperroots.com The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ditto on your observations, Dee, and to Molly, I totally agree about Archives.com. I've not had much luck with FamilySearch since it's been changed but I have to admit that I've not spent too much time there.   Cathy Champion     Fenton, MO 63026 (near St. Louis)   Make yourself familiar with the angels and behold them frequently in spirit; for without being seen, they are present with you.   - St. Francis De Sales ________________________________  Even at only $39, newspapers.com would have to offer what the other two did not have to draw my attention. I agree with your assessment of archive.com, and add worldvitalrecords.com to the list I tried and found not worth giving them my money. best regards, Dee From: "Molly" <mkcindc@yahoo.com> I ask bc I did get a subscription to Archives.com and have been very disappointed - at least for the people I need, they've had only the same index info I find on familysearch and ancestry. Thanks for your insights! ~KC~