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Actually, I have made that mistake in both directions . . . I may be entirely adrift in time! Harold On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Patricia Hobbs <plhgenealogy@gmail.com>wrote: > LOL! I do that all the time! I think I'm stuck in the 19th century. > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Diane Giannini > <ancestrysleuths@gmail.com>wrote: > > > The date range for the birth records I need from Westmoreland County > > is 1916-1918. > > > > Diane L Giannini, CG > > Ancestry Sleuths > > > > *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for > > Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates > > following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition > to > > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Harold, I could just kick you right now! LOL. I thought I was going to get something else done today like cleaning! Ann Gilchrest In a message dated 01-Feb-13 09:15:20 US Mountain Standard Time, librarytraveler@gmail.com writes: One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the hardest to find. -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center

On 2/1/2013 11:06 AM, cynthia.turk@juno.com wrote: > Good Morning, Welcome aboard. > "A great document of our nation is the con- > -stitution." > I have heretofore simply transcribed line by line to avoid the > question. However, if the margins are large, it takes up a lot of space. > So should the word be: > a.) con--stitution This seems not to be the intention of the author and > makes one pause, but is "accurate." Thomas Jefferson was one of those who took the "belt and suspenders" approach to hyphenation, using one at the end of the one line and at the beginning of the next, in a divided word. When you're doing a transcription, your aim is to reproduce the document with complete fidelity. That would include using both hyphens. Hyphens to indicate divided words were fairly new at the end of the 18th century. Also used, not too long before that, was a colon at the end of the line where the word was divided. That never caught on. I deal often with 16th century Spanish documents, and in those days they divided words willy-nilly, without hyphens and without regard for syllables. That really gets wild! That's where you really have to know the vocabulary to even begin to figure out that it IS a divided word! Karen Packard Rhodes Currently residing in Pinellas Park, Pinellas County, Florida

LOL! I do that all the time! I think I'm stuck in the 19th century. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Diane Giannini <ancestrysleuths@gmail.com>wrote: > The date range for the birth records I need from Westmoreland County > is 1916-1918. > > Diane L Giannini, CG > Ancestry Sleuths > > *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for > Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates > following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The date range for the birth records I need from Westmoreland County is 1916-1918. Diane L Giannini, CG Ancestry Sleuths *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations

Dear All, A friend wants to self-publish his autobiography in 50 copies, hard back, cloth covered, durable binding. Do any of you have any personal experience working with self-publishing vendors? I'd love pro or con recommendations. I'm also searching the internet for vendors myself, but would love to hear personal opinions based on experience. He says that he is willing to pay the expense of going hard back, and wants the book to be durable. He does not want to go the paperback route. He does not want to sell the book to the public. I expect he will want the book to be 6x9, case wrap with dust jacket and a sewn binding. I looked at Lulu, which is a possibility, but he doesn't need the marketing services Thanks for any recommendations you can send my way, Sara Scribner

1816-1818 birth records in Pennsylvania? To my knowledge there are none unless they are church records. Maybe you mean 1916-1918? On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Diane Giannini <ancestrysleuths@gmail.com>wrote: > I am in need of two PA birth records from Westmoreland County - time > range 1816-1818. If you can obtain these for me, contact me off list > and I will provide the details. > > Thanks! > Diane L Giannini, CG > Ancestry Sleuths > > *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for > Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates > following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am in need of two PA birth records from Westmoreland County - time range 1816-1818. If you can obtain these for me, contact me off list and I will provide the details. Thanks! Diane L Giannini, CG Ancestry Sleuths *"CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations

Patti and Harold, Christy Fillerup searched one of these counties for me line by line a couple of years ago! (Remember George W. Gilmore?) Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Harold Henderson wrote: > Patti -- Yes, it is a shock even though a pleasant one. I've always enjoyed > working with the actual books when I'm there in person, but they weren't > indexed atall atall . . . -- Harold > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Patricia Hobbs <plhgenealogy@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Oh, my goodness. I have three counties' rolls from the FHL right now. It >> will be great not to have to order them. I even got one on extended loan. >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Harold Henderson < >> librarytraveler@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the >>> hardest >>> to find. >>> >>> -- >>> Harold Henderson midwestroots.net >>> Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana >>> Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center >>> >>> Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 >>> Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks >>> of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the >>> Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation >>> and used under license by the Board’s associates. >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >>> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >>> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > > -- > Harold Henderson midwestroots.net > Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana > Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center > > Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 > Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks > of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the > Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation > and used under license by the Board’s associates. > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Cynthia, Welcome to the list. Below, some resources resources for you on transcribing: Elizabeth Shown Mills, on the BCG website, "Skillbuilding: Transcribing Source Material" http://www.bcgcertification.org/skillbuilders/skbld961.html If you are a member of NGS, you might think about taking their course on transcription: http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/transcribing Kimberly Powell has a good article on transcription on About.com, "Abstracting & Transcribing Original Documents" http://genealogy.about.com/od/basics/a/abstracting.htm Also, if you have a copy of Professional Genealogy, edited by Elizabeth Shown Mills, there is some great help with transcribing and abstracting. Having said all of this, I do transcribe line by line, moving to the next line just as the original document does it, and that includes hyphenations. Including the double-line (equal sign) hyphenation mark, if they use it, or no hyphenation if it is omitted. It does require more space but it suits my sense of order. Janis Walker Gilmore Pawleys Island, SC On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:06 AM, cynthia.turk@juno.com wrote: > Good Morning, > > I am new to this list and have been lurking this week. Being > newly "transitional," it is obvious there is much to learn. I do > appreciate the expertise of those on the list and the wonderful > questions, many of which I also might ask. > So here is my first one. In doing a transcription, what do you > do with those words the author could not fit on the line and hyphenated? > Older documents also have a hyphen on the next line before the end of the > word like this: > "A great document of our nation is the con- > -stitution." > I have heretofore simply transcribed line by line to avoid the > question. However, if the margins are large, it takes up a lot of space. > So should the word be: > a.) con--stitution This seems not to be the intention of the author and > makes one pause, but is "accurate." > b.) con-stitution This is also not the intention but is less intrusive. > c.) constitution ? This is author's intention, but is not accurate. > The rule seems to be that all punctuation must be as written, but > is a hyphen in this case punctuation? > Thanks in advance. > Genially, > Cynthia Turk > ____________________________________________________________ > How to Stay Asleep > Researchers have discovered a revolutionary secret to stay asleep > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/510bf27f62c79727f3434st01vuc > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I always transcribe documents EXACTLY as they are written on the page. Michele -----Original Message----- From: transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:transitional-genealogists-forum-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cynthia.turk@juno.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 11:07 AM To: Transitional-Genealogists-Forum@rootsweb.com Subject: [TGF] Hyphenated words in transcriptions Good Morning, I am new to this list and have been lurking this week. Being newly "transitional," it is obvious there is much to learn. I do appreciate the expertise of those on the list and the wonderful questions, many of which I also might ask. So here is my first one. In doing a transcription, what do you do with those words the author could not fit on the line and hyphenated? Older documents also have a hyphen on the next line before the end of the word like this: "A great document of our nation is the con- -stitution." I have heretofore simply transcribed line by line to avoid the question. However, if the margins are large, it takes up a lot of space. So should the word be: a.) con--stitution This seems not to be the intention of the author and makes one pause, but is "accurate." b.) con-stitution This is also not the intention but is less intrusive. c.) constitution ? This is author's intention, but is not accurate. The rule seems to be that all punctuation must be as written, but is a hyphen in this case punctuation? Thanks in advance. Genially, Cynthia Turk ____________________________________________________________ How to Stay Asleep Researchers have discovered a revolutionary secret to stay asleep http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/510bf27f62c79727f3434st01vuc The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They have also added a lot of land records from NY. ---- Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> wrote: > One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the hardest > to find. > > -- > Harold Henderson midwestroots.net > Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana > Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center > > Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 > Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks > of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the > Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation > and used under license by the Board’s associates. > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did you sign in? ----- Original Message ----- From: AGilchrest@aol.com To: transitional-genealogists-forum@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 1:23:52 PM Subject: [TGF] Image not availabe NY 1855 state census on FamilySearch Has anyone encountered this message "Image not available" on FamilySearch? I went into the 1855 NY state census through the browse these images for Cayuga County there are 58 images but all I get is the message "Image not available." Maybe I will get my cleaning done! Ann Gilchrest The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, I did already know about the land records which is also fabulous. I also just found something the other night in the probate records for Washington County, NY. (I was off track in what my real genealogical goals were that night, but couldn't resist looking) They don't give the percentages indexed on FamilySearch, but they do say there are 594,539 records indexed, but there are 84,493 images. That means there are only 7 names indexed per image available. I checked one name I know to be there, and he didn't come up. It's not problem of course, since we can still browse through the pages, but the usual awareness factor was not given in the description (although maybe it is in the Wiki). On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:44 AM, <kathygrant@cinci.rr.com> wrote: > They have also added a lot of land records from NY. > > ---- Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com> wrote: > > One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the > hardest > > to find. > > > > -- > > Harold Henderson midwestroots.net > > Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana > > Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center > > > > Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 > > Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks > > of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the > > Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation > > and used under license by the Board’s associates. > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Good Morning, I am new to this list and have been lurking this week. Being newly "transitional," it is obvious there is much to learn. I do appreciate the expertise of those on the list and the wonderful questions, many of which I also might ask. So here is my first one. In doing a transcription, what do you do with those words the author could not fit on the line and hyphenated? Older documents also have a hyphen on the next line before the end of the word like this: "A great document of our nation is the con- -stitution." I have heretofore simply transcribed line by line to avoid the question. However, if the margins are large, it takes up a lot of space. So should the word be: a.) con--stitution This seems not to be the intention of the author and makes one pause, but is "accurate." b.) con-stitution This is also not the intention but is less intrusive. c.) constitution ? This is author's intention, but is not accurate. The rule seems to be that all punctuation must be as written, but is a hyphen in this case punctuation? Thanks in advance. Genially, Cynthia Turk ____________________________________________________________ How to Stay Asleep Researchers have discovered a revolutionary secret to stay asleep http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/510bf27f62c79727f3434st01vuc

Patti -- Yes, it is a shock even though a pleasant one. I've always enjoyed working with the actual books when I'm there in person, but they weren't indexed atall atall . . . -- Harold On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Patricia Hobbs <plhgenealogy@gmail.com>wrote: > Oh, my goodness. I have three counties' rolls from the FHL right now. It > will be great not to have to order them. I even got one on extended loan. > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Harold Henderson < > librarytraveler@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the >> hardest >> to find. >> >> -- >> Harold Henderson midwestroots.net >> Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana >> Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center >> >> Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 >> Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks >> of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the >> Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation >> and used under license by the Board’s associates. >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Oh, my goodness. I have three counties' rolls from the FHL right now. It will be great not to have to order them. I even got one on extended loan. On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Harold Henderson <librarytraveler@gmail.com > wrote: > One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the hardest > to find. > > -- > Harold Henderson midwestroots.net > Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana > Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center > > Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 > Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks > of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the > Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation > and used under license by the Board’s associates. > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

One of the best earliest censuses and until this morning one of the hardest to find. -- Harold Henderson midwestroots.net Research, Writing, and Brickwall Dismantling from Northwest Indiana Regularly Researching at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Tom, Thanks for the link to the Steal Like an Artist site. I see more commonalities than I do differences between his Good Theft vs. Bad Theft visual and Elizabeth Shown Mills' recent Quick Lesson 15 on plagiarism. Connie Sheets Phoenix