Would folks mind sharing tips about marketing? Since I started my business this past summer, I've mostly been working on my professional education and on doing pro bono work that will extend my skills. I've done some research for friends, some writing for a small museum, and I work with another friend once a month helping her learn how to research her family. My one paying client so far found me through my APG listing. I have a website and am on Facebook and Twitter. I belong to my local APG chapter and to a couple local societies. One participant in a recent APG webinar mentioned that she does presentations at senior centers and gets some clients that way. What other marketing strategies have you found to be successful? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Annette Annette Burke Lyttle HERITAGE DETECTIVE, LLC Westminster, Colorado 303-217-3452 [email protected] http://heritagedetective.com

Thank you so much for those who sent me notes and ideas on my SS-5 question. After looking more closely I realized they did not send me her SS-5, but they sent me a form called SSA-9638 which does not list her social security no., but it is a form that was filled out for her to make claims under her husband's no. which is also listed (great -- he died in 1945 and I didn't have his social security no.) The bottom line is that she (or her daughter) filled out this form when Minnie was in her late 80s. On this document Minnie's mother's maiden name was listed as Frieda Dubasarsky on this form in 1972. On Frieda's death certificate her father's name was listed a Samuel S?darsky in 1936, but no informant was identified. Either way, it is not primary information. Thank you. Shannon Green

I am enjoying this thread so much! I am interested in being a record retrieval version of genealogist and I am currently teaching myself where the records are located in East Central Alabama and in the state archives in Montgomery. I have not found a local mentor yet so I use this forum to learn from all of you. I really appreciate everything each of you do in taking time during your day to help beginners like me. If I can be of any help to any of you with research or record retrieval from Alabama repositories, please send me an email. It would help me as well by giving me some much needed experience in retrieving records for genealogists. Suzanne > On Nov 9, 2014, at 12:30 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Kara, > > I just saw your post and wanted to add my two cents. Remember that your > business will build slowly so you may not be spending as much time on your > business as you think initially. And I would stress one of the points > that others have made: you can subcontract work out to other genealogists. > That means that your responsibility is to create the research plan, > determine where the records can be found, and direct the research. These > steps really are the most important parts of the process; while it may be > enjoyable to work in archives and have the thrill of finding that record, > pulling records does not take enormous talent. > > I also recommend that you take some time to determine what part of the > "market" you wish to target (and how to target it) as this will determine > how much archival work you need to do. There really is a large part of > our market made up of people who are too busy to do, or want to do, any > research, including the easy online research. So, while that research is > generally much less interesting, it is profitable. > > Hope this helps, > > Mara > > > > Mara Fein, PhD, CG(SM) > [email protected] > www.ancestrywest.com > 310-487-5150 > > Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board > for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its > program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by > the Board's associates. > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the words of wisdom, Elissa. Denise Picard Lindgren On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 3:01 AM, < [email protected]> wrote: > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I need a clone or some advice (Elissa Scalise Powell) >

Elissa, thank you so much for sharing your advice and experience. I, too, have made certification my goal, though I'm fortunate enough to have been able to do genealogy full time for almost three years now. I spent two years working on my own family, and I began taking clients this year. Right now I'm working on my 2015 education and experience plan. Your message has helped me clarify my thinking about what that plan should include. One problem I have with research in repositories, which is where I want to put my emphasis for 2015, is that Colorado is the kind of place that is full of people whose families are from elsewhere. Neither my own family research nor my clients' families (so far) have sent me to the courthouse or the special collections in area libraries and archives. So I found a mug book from 1914 called "Representative Women of Colorado" and chose half a dozen Denver-area families (ones where both the woman's maiden name and her husband's name were included in her listing) to use as possible research subjects. So far, after some superficial research, I've hit the jackpot on one of the families. They have collections of family papers in both the University of Colorado library and in the Western History and Genealogy special collection at the Denver Public Library. All the families owned land and were involved in businesses and would have left wills, etc., so they should give me plenty of nearby research experience in the coming year. And by the way, if anybody needs a hand with Western research, I'd be happy to help. In addition to University of Colorado and Denver Public libraries, I also have access to NARA-Denver, the Stephen H. Hart Library at the Colorado Historical Society, Colorado courthouses, history museums, and other resources I haven't explored or even discovered yet. I've just learned of this group and joined it recently. I'm so glad I did! Annette Annette Burke Lyttle HERITAGE DETECTIVE, LLC Westminster, Colorado 303-217-3452 [email protected] http://heritagedetective.com -----Original Message----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:13:06 -0500 From: "Elissa Scalise Powell" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TGF] I need a clone or some advice To: "'TGF List'" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kara, When I was transitioning into becoming a professional I had young children ages 2 and 4. They were 8 and 10 when I became certified. I had been "doing" genealogy since the older one was born. The only time in the past three decades I have not done something genealogical on a daily basis was a six month stint when we moved from Massachusetts to Pennsylvania in 1990. As the t-shirt says, "Genealogy is not a hobby but a way of life." <G> That was back in the B.C. era (before computers <g>). The internet has brought research into our living rooms and office lunch hours. Previously, the only way to do it was visit libraries, archives, and court houses. Now, as every savvy researcher knows, there still is about 96% or more information that is not online. But that 4% or so of the low-hanging fruit certainly does speed things along. It is alluring and lulls some researchers into a sense that they have "done it all" when they do one Google search or comb through Ancestry. And for many hobbyists that is indeed enough. But as a transitional professional who wants to give good service to clients, we know there is more and there are also more educational opportunities to help us learn about the "more." The great thing about the ProGen Study program is that it is not just "book larnin'" but also gives practical experience in the types of things researchers encounter and also on the business side. Both giving feedback to your peer group of 7 or so and receiving feedback on your assignments from the same 7 is very beneficial to improving skills and understanding various approaches to the same assignment directions. I believe there are more successful certification applicants coming out of ProGen Study groups because of this very practical experience. Remember that certification tests experience (application of techniques and skills) and not just education (mentally understanding concepts). How many of us have sat through a class or lecture and understood the process being taught only to try it on our own and wonder how the instructor made it look so easy? It is this "rubber meets the road" that experience teaches us and which certification tests. That said, transitional genealogists should look for opportunities to gain experience in whatever circumstance they find themselves. Can you volunteer to answer some queries for a genealogical or historical society or library? This will help you to gain experience in other people's research, develop research plans, and write reports even if you can't do all the research required. Can you take on some clients with the understanding that you have limited access? Can you (as someone suggested) save your on-site research requirements for a vacation day and do several clients at a time? Professionals do that all the time and have the clients share your travel and parking costs. Someone else suggested subcontracting. Can you either ask another local research to retrieve some documents, or perhaps hand them a small part of the research? Or does it make sense for you to go so far and then refer the client on to the next researcher? Which leads to the thought of whether there is someone you can partner with to share in the same research business? Remember that if your goal is certification then gaining experience in the elements and skills tested will go a long way for you. Are there parts of your own genealogy that you could write up, share with relatives, create an anniversary book, write and publish case studies? So many society periodicals need fodder for their pages. Each time you demonstrate the GPS, adhere to standards, practice research plans and reporting, develop problem-solving techniques and narrative kinship studies, you are reinforcing your skills and making genealogy "a way of life and not a hobby." Best wishes, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 28 June-3 July 2015 and 19-24 July 2015 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. The board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Kara Sorenson via Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 1:56 PM Ok so I know that I can't be the only one with this issue, but let me give you my predicament and find out how those of you who have "been there, done that" or "are there, doing that" deal with it. I am wanting to transition into full-time research within 5 years. I figure this will give me time to obtain certification and build my business. I am currently participating in the current ProGen Study Group and plan on applying for certification once I complete it. I also work full time (Mon-Fri 8-5) and have 2 young children (9 months and 7 years old). In the past, I have had a work schedule which allowed me at least 1 day of the week for courthouse/archival research. However, this last year I have been working a schedule which doesn't give me any time for repository research. Without being able to access on-site records I don't feel that I can "hang my sign out" so to speak, and build a client base. What suggestions does anyone have on how to handle this situation? ------------------------------ End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 343 ***************************************************************

Kara, I just saw your post and wanted to add my two cents. Remember that your business will build slowly so you may not be spending as much time on your business as you think initially. And I would stress one of the points that others have made: you can subcontract work out to other genealogists. That means that your responsibility is to create the research plan, determine where the records can be found, and direct the research. These steps really are the most important parts of the process; while it may be enjoyable to work in archives and have the thrill of finding that record, pulling records does not take enormous talent. I also recommend that you take some time to determine what part of the "market" you wish to target (and how to target it) as this will determine how much archival work you need to do. There really is a large part of our market made up of people who are too busy to do, or want to do, any research, including the easy online research. So, while that research is generally much less interesting, it is profitable. Hope this helps, Mara Mara Fein, PhD, CG(SM) [email protected] www.ancestrywest.com 310-487-5150 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board's associates.

The letter sounds like it supports your belief that she applied for benefits under his number then later she applied for her own number. Maybe she needed it for business of her own where her husband's number could not come up in a system, banking, a will, insurance, etc. Things changed a lot for women in the late 60s and early 70s. I remember not being able to get credit in my own name in the early 70s without my husband's co-signature and approval. And I made 4 times his monthly Army salary. Everything we did was under his SSN. There were also changes to the SSA system requiring more people to have their own SSN, broader coverage of benefits, big push starting mid-60s. Have you tried writing a letter to SSA with an explanation that you appreciate the form they sent but you requested and paid for the application specifically for SSN xxx-xx-1995 and to please check again? "The[y] said she never had a social security no. before she filed a claim for benefits under her husband's no." Sounds like they based the response on the number from which she was receiving benefits, not her personal number. best regards, Dee > On November 9, 2014 at 5:39 AM Shannon Green via > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I would appreciate help understanding what I received from SSA so I can > evaluate the information items. > > > > * I am researching a family and I found a record in the SSDI on > Ancestry. Her name is Minnie and it listed her social security no. > > * I wrote away to the SSA and they sent me a copy of her > application. > > * The letter that accompanied the photocopy of her application says > that her application shows a social security no. of xxx-xx-5001 which is her > husband's number (he died in 1945). Her correct social security no. is > xxx-xx-1995 (which is the number I requested a copy of). The said she never > had a social security no. before she filed a claim for benefits under her > husband's no. > > * She got her social security no. in 1972 (which is 27 years after > her last husband died). > > * The application was for Minnie, but it was signed by her daughter. > > * Minnie died in 1986. > > > > Does this mean that Minnie waited until 1972 to file a claim for benefits > from her husband? Is this typical? What is the significance that her > daughter signed the form? Should I assume the daughter is the informant? > > > > The maiden name for Minnie's mother on this form is inconsistent with the > maiden name provided on Minnie's mother's death certificate where no > informant is identified. I thought that Minnie would be the informant on > the social security application, therefore, I thought it would be an > original source with secondary information providing direct evidence to the > question of "What is Minnie's mother's maiden name?" If her daughter was > the informant then I see the information item as less credible as it is less > likely for a granddaughter to know her grandmother's maiden name than it > would be for a daughter to know her mother's maiden name. > > > > I would appreciate if someone with knowledge of how the social security > applications worked would help me better understand what I am looking at! > Thank you. > > > > > > Shannon Green > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

I would appreciate help understanding what I received from SSA so I can evaluate the information items. * I am researching a family and I found a record in the SSDI on Ancestry. Her name is Minnie and it listed her social security no. * I wrote away to the SSA and they sent me a copy of her application. * The letter that accompanied the photocopy of her application says that her application shows a social security no. of xxx-xx-5001 which is her husband's number (he died in 1945). Her correct social security no. is xxx-xx-1995 (which is the number I requested a copy of). The said she never had a social security no. before she filed a claim for benefits under her husband's no. * She got her social security no. in 1972 (which is 27 years after her last husband died). * The application was for Minnie, but it was signed by her daughter. * Minnie died in 1986. Does this mean that Minnie waited until 1972 to file a claim for benefits from her husband? Is this typical? What is the significance that her daughter signed the form? Should I assume the daughter is the informant? The maiden name for Minnie's mother on this form is inconsistent with the maiden name provided on Minnie's mother's death certificate where no informant is identified. I thought that Minnie would be the informant on the social security application, therefore, I thought it would be an original source with secondary information providing direct evidence to the question of "What is Minnie's mother's maiden name?" If her daughter was the informant then I see the information item as less credible as it is less likely for a granddaughter to know her grandmother's maiden name than it would be for a daughter to know her mother's maiden name. I would appreciate if someone with knowledge of how the social security applications worked would help me better understand what I am looking at! Thank you. Shannon Green

Just a couple suggestions: Her mother may not have been competent to sign the form at that time and the daughter May have had Power of Attorney to do so Social Security laws changed dramatically in 1972: http://www.ssa.gov/history/1972amend.html I think there is more to this filing and that you only received partial information. Contacting Social Security would possibly clear this up for you. Regarding the death certificate information: Information on death certificates is frequently incorrect. When you say the maiden name is inconsistent do you mean completely different? Or similar but different? Phyllis Gessert Garratt -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shannon Green via Subject: [TGF] Help understanding SS Application I would appreciate help understanding what I received from SSA so I can evaluate the information items. * She got her social security no. in 1972 (which is 27 years after her last husband died). * The application was for Minnie, but it was signed by her daughter. Does this mean that Minnie waited until 1972 to file a claim for benefits from her husband? Is this typical? What is the significance that her daughter signed the form? Should I assume the daughter is the informant? The maiden name for Minnie's mother on this form is inconsistent with the maiden name provided on Minnie's mother's death certificate where no informant is identified.

Kara, When I was transitioning into becoming a professional I had young children ages 2 and 4. They were 8 and 10 when I became certified. I had been "doing" genealogy since the older one was born. The only time in the past three decades I have not done something genealogical on a daily basis was a six month stint when we moved from Massachusetts to Pennsylvania in 1990. As the t-shirt says, "Genealogy is not a hobby but a way of life." <G> That was back in the B.C. era (before computers <g>). The internet has brought research into our living rooms and office lunch hours. Previously, the only way to do it was visit libraries, archives, and court houses. Now, as every savvy researcher knows, there still is about 96% or more information that is not online. But that 4% or so of the low-hanging fruit certainly does speed things along. It is alluring and lulls some researchers into a sense that they have "done it all" when they do one Google search or comb through Ancestry. And for many hobbyists that is indeed enough. But as a transitional professional who wants to give good service to clients, we know there is more and there are also more educational opportunities to help us learn about the "more." The great thing about the ProGen Study program is that it is not just "book larnin'" but also gives practical experience in the types of things researchers encounter and also on the business side. Both giving feedback to your peer group of 7 or so and receiving feedback on your assignments from the same 7 is very beneficial to improving skills and understanding various approaches to the same assignment directions. I believe there are more successful certification applicants coming out of ProGen Study groups because of this very practical experience. Remember that certification tests experience (application of techniques and skills) and not just education (mentally understanding concepts). How many of us have sat through a class or lecture and understood the process being taught only to try it on our own and wonder how the instructor made it look so easy? It is this "rubber meets the road" that experience teaches us and which certification tests. That said, transitional genealogists should look for opportunities to gain experience in whatever circumstance they find themselves. Can you volunteer to answer some queries for a genealogical or historical society or library? This will help you to gain experience in other people's research, develop research plans, and write reports even if you can't do all the research required. Can you take on some clients with the understanding that you have limited access? Can you (as someone suggested) save your on-site research requirements for a vacation day and do several clients at a time? Professionals do that all the time and have the clients share your travel and parking costs. Someone else suggested subcontracting. Can you either ask another local research to retrieve some documents, or perhaps hand them a small part of the research? Or does it make sense for you to go so far and then refer the client on to the next researcher? Which leads to the thought of whether there is someone you can partner with to share in the same research business? Remember that if your goal is certification then gaining experience in the elements and skills tested will go a long way for you. Are there parts of your own genealogy that you could write up, share with relatives, create an anniversary book, write and publish case studies? So many society periodicals need fodder for their pages. Each time you demonstrate the GPS, adhere to standards, practice research plans and reporting, develop problem-solving techniques and narrative kinship studies, you are reinforcing your skills and making genealogy "a way of life and not a hobby." Best wishes, Elissa Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL www.PowellGenealogy.com www.GRIPitt.org 28 June-3 July 2015 and 19-24 July 2015 in Pittsburgh, PA CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. The board name is a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of Kara Sorenson via Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 1:56 PM Ok so I know that I can't be the only one with this issue, but let me give you my predicament and find out how those of you who have "been there, done that" or "are there, doing that" deal with it. I am wanting to transition into full-time research within 5 years. I figure this will give me time to obtain certification and build my business. I am currently participating in the current ProGen Study Group and plan on applying for certification once I complete it. I also work full time (Mon-Fri 8-5) and have 2 young children (9 months and 7 years old). In the past, I have had a work schedule which allowed me at least 1 day of the week for courthouse/archival research. However, this last year I have been working a schedule which doesn't give me any time for repository research. Without being able to access on-site records I don't feel that I can "hang my sign out" so to speak, and build a client base. What suggestions does anyone have on how to handle this situation?

Thank you guys for all of your helpful advice On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Kara Sorenson <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok so I know that I can't be the only one with this issue, but let me give > you my predicament and find out how those of you who have "been there, done > that" or "are there, doing that" deal with it. > > I am wanting to transition into full-time research within 5 years. I > figure this will give me time to obtain certification and build my > business. I am currently participating in the current ProGen Study Group > and plan on applying for certification once I complete it. I also work > full time (Mon-Fri 8-5) and have 2 young children (9 months and 7 years > old). In the past, I have had a work schedule which allowed me at least 1 > day of the week for courthouse/archival research. However, this last year > I have been working a schedule which doesn't give me any time for > repository research. Without being able to access on-site records I don't > feel that I can "hang my sign out" so to speak, and build a client base. > What suggestions does anyone have on how to handle this situation? > > Thanks, > Kara >

Kara, Do you have enough vacation time to use some of it to research? Its much easier to do when you don't have kids, but its something to think about. One of my sisters works full time and teaches skiing Fri-Sun during the winter. (for love, teaching pays minimum wage) Some years she doesn't get to take Friday off, some years she puts in 40 hrs in 4 days, and some years she takes Friday as a vacation day every week during the season. Of course, she doesn't have kids, she's got 4 wks of vacation, and her husband is self-employed and works practically constantly, so she has both more time than most and fewer demands on it than someone like you who has kids to factor in to the equation. Ann Gillespie http://anngillespieresearch.com/ <http://anngillespieresearch.weebly.com/> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Kara Sorenson via < [email protected]> wrote: > Ok so I know that I can't be the only one with this issue, but let me give > you my predicament and find out how those of you who have "been there, done > that" or "are there, doing that" deal with it. > > I am wanting to transition into full-time research within 5 years. I > figure this will give me time to obtain certification and build my > business. I am currently participating in the current ProGen Study Group > and plan on applying for certification once I complete it. I also work > full time (Mon-Fri 8-5) and have 2 young children (9 months and 7 years > old). In the past, I have had a work schedule which allowed me at least 1 > day of the week for courthouse/archival research. However, this last year > I have been working a schedule which doesn't give me any time for > repository research. Without being able to access on-site records I don't > feel that I can "hang my sign out" so to speak, and build a client base. > What suggestions does anyone have on how to handle this situation? > > Thanks, > Kara > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Subcontract when you can't access repositories, it's not unusual. First visit with your client to let them know and get approval for the extra funding. d Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Kara -- I have no help for your main question but would appreciate hearing about any cloning possibilities ;-) It's not a perfect substitute for being there, but check your states and countries of interest for the availability of *original* on-line records. I'm thinking of FamilySearch's fantastical collections of New York probate and land records but there are plenty more, some on well-known international pay sites and many local. Good luck! Harold Harold Henderson, CG midwestroots.net *Finding Ancestors in Fort Wayne: The Genealogist's Unofficial One-Stop Guide to the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center * http://www.midwestroots.net/ <http://www.midwestroots.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ACPLGC-April-2013.pdf> Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Kara Sorenson via < [email protected]> wrote: > Ok so I know that I can't be the only one with this issue, but let me give > you my predicament and find out how those of you who have "been there, done > that" or "are there, doing that" deal with it. > > I am wanting to transition into full-time research within 5 years. I > figure this will give me time to obtain certification and build my > business. I am currently participating in the current ProGen Study Group > and plan on applying for certification once I complete it. I also work > full time (Mon-Fri 8-5) and have 2 young children (9 months and 7 years > old). In the past, I have had a work schedule which allowed me at least 1 > day of the week for courthouse/archival research. However, this last year > I have been working a schedule which doesn't give me any time for > repository research. Without being able to access on-site records I don't > feel that I can "hang my sign out" so to speak, and build a client base. > What suggestions does anyone have on how to handle this situation? > > Thanks, > Kara > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive > environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to > professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ok so I know that I can't be the only one with this issue, but let me give you my predicament and find out how those of you who have "been there, done that" or "are there, doing that" deal with it. I am wanting to transition into full-time research within 5 years. I figure this will give me time to obtain certification and build my business. I am currently participating in the current ProGen Study Group and plan on applying for certification once I complete it. I also work full time (Mon-Fri 8-5) and have 2 young children (9 months and 7 years old). In the past, I have had a work schedule which allowed me at least 1 day of the week for courthouse/archival research. However, this last year I have been working a schedule which doesn't give me any time for repository research. Without being able to access on-site records I don't feel that I can "hang my sign out" so to speak, and build a client base. What suggestions does anyone have on how to handle this situation? Thanks, Kara

"I thought I was a good genealogist, but the only way to be sure was to have my work peer-reviewed." http://bcgcertification.org/blog/2014/11/introducing-bcgs-new-president-jeanne-larzalere-bloom-cg/ Harold Henderson, CG midwestroots.net *Finding Ancestors in Fort Wayne: The Genealogist's Unofficial One-Stop Guide to the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center * http://www.midwestroots.net/ <http://www.midwestroots.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ACPLGC-April-2013.pdf> Certified Genealogist (SM) No. 1029 Certified Genealogist and CG are proprietary service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists® used by the Board to identify its program of genealogical competency evaluation and used under license by the Board’s associates.

Elissa, Thank you for explaining about derivative sources. I will go back to the sources I used and determine if I can get closer to the original source. Stephany Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:32 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Derivative sources (Elissa Scalise Powell) > 2. Re: Finding KKK members (Daniel Sample) > 3. Re: Finding KKK members (Suzanne) > 4. Fwd: Re: 2015 educational scholarships > (Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist) > 5. CAFG Announces Scholarship Covering 50% of Tuition to the > 2015 Forensic Genealogy Institute (Leslie Lawson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 04:06:56 -0500 > From: "Elissa Scalise Powell" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Derivative sources > To: "'TGF List'" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Good genealogy should use the most reliable sources to provide the evidence > we seek of relationships and facts. Sometimes we cannot help but use > derivative sources but we do need to ask ourselves, what is it a derivative > of? And where can I see the original? The idea behind derivatives is that > errors can be introduced that will change our conclusion if we use them. By > trying to get to the most original source (the one closest to the event) we > improve the quality of the information. This is still no guarantee that it > is correct. All sources lie and only by comparing and analyzing them > together can we know which ones(s) are more reliable than others. > > Best wishes, > Elissa > > Elissa Scalise Powell, CG , CGL > www.PowellGenealogy.com > www.GRIPitt.org 28 June-3 July 2015 and 19-24 July 2015 in Pittsburgh, PA > CG, Certified Genealogist, CGL, and Certified Genealogical Lecturer are > service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under > license by board certificants after periodic evaluations. The board name is > a trademark registered in the US Patent and Trademark Office. > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Stephany Berry via > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:45 PM > > I am working on my BCG portfolio. I watched the video about the portfolio > process and when it said that one of ways to fail is using too many > derivative sources. I looked it up and i am confused about the fact > microfilm or court book is considered a derivative source. Does this mean I > can't use these sources? Did I misunderstand? Any help clarifying this is > much appreciated! > > Stephany > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 12:38:20 -0600 > From: Daniel Sample <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thanks for the replies. > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Trevia, >> I read the link. Very interesting. >> It made something come to mind for me. It was asked about membership >> lists, etc. >> There is a way to find out a few names when looking in the indexes to >> Civil and Criminal Records. See if anyone was beaten, tarred and >> feathered, hung, etc. >> >> Anyone who posted bond for the accused may have a connection with the Klan. >> >> Cheryl Proctor >> Southern Indiana >> >> >> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:45 PM, Trevia W Beverly < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> For Harris Co TX, specifically, Baytown area: >> http://www.ourbaytown.com/baytownklan.htm >> >> Wanda Orton still writes a column in the Baytown Sun, although she lives >> elsewhere. >> >> >> ~ Trevia >> Trevia Wooster Beverly >> Houston, Texas >> 713-864-6862 >> Corresponding Secretary, Harris County Historical Commission (1995-) - >> http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/ >> Chairman, Advisory Council, Baytown Historical Preservation Assoc. - >> http://www.baytownhistory.org/ >> Texas Association of Museums - http://www.prismnet.com/~tam/ >> American Association of State and Local History (AASLH) - >> http://about.aaslh.org/home/ >> Baytown Genealogy Society (Charter/Life Member,1965-) >> The Bay Area Hertiage Society of Baytown (1985- ) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Melissa Barker via >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:17 PM >> To: [email protected]; Daniel Sample; >> [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members >> >> >> >> David, >> >> I agree with Cheryl, those types of records are difficult to find. In our >> archives we do have a blank KKK membership form that we found in an old >> book >> that was donated to us, it is quite interesting and has some interesting >> questions. >> >> Melissa Barker >> Certified Archivist >> Houston County, TN. Archivist/Records Manager P.O. Box 366 Erin, TN. 37061 >> Phone: 931-289-4839 >> E-Mail: [email protected] Facebook Page: >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/190560887647081/ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] via >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:10 PM >> To: Daniel Sample ; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members >> >> If you find membership rolls to the Klan, you will be doing something >> rare. >> The Klan didn't advertise who their members were. It was a secret >> organization and they would be killed if any member told of the membership >> or betrayed the Klan. You have to realize that Judges, sheriffs, and people >> from all walks of life could be members. >> There are some Klans active today but at least I don't hear much about >> them. >> >> They still go after blacks. And in Meade County, Kentucky someone >> destroyed >> some political ad signs, which was the work of some kids, or was Klan >> related activity. >> >> They came to our town a number of years ago and the response to that an >> organization was formed, "Community Unity", which helps people understand >> each other, their races, and learn of the people of the world, etc. A >> great >> thing happened as a result of the Klan trying to recruit here. >> >> I know this doesn't answer your question, but I hope the information helps. >> Cheryl Proctor >> >> >> >> On Friday, October 31, 2014 4:28 PM, Daniel Sample via >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I received a question today regarding if it is possible to determine if >> someone was in the Klan or not. According to family lore, his gr gr great >> grandfather (or possibly one of his sons) was a slave owner who fathered >> children with one of his slaves. >> >> This person went on to join the Klan during its resurgence during the >> 1920's. He has a photograph of Klansmen during this time period on horses >> and one looks very much like other photographs of this ancestor. >> >> Just curious if there are any membership rolls available along with any >> other sources of information. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Daniel Sample >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:55:53 -0500 > From: Suzanne <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members > To: Daniel Sample <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi. Yesterday, I was at the archive department of my local university and they had a manuscript collection of local items concerning the KKK. You might try your nearest university library for their archives. Suzanne > > > >> On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Daniel Sample via <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the replies. >> >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM, [email protected] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Trevia, >>> I read the link. Very interesting. >>> It made something come to mind for me. It was asked about membership >>> lists, etc. >>> There is a way to find out a few names when looking in the indexes to >>> Civil and Criminal Records. See if anyone was beaten, tarred and >>> feathered, hung, etc. >>> >>> Anyone who posted bond for the accused may have a connection with the Klan. >>> >>> Cheryl Proctor >>> Southern Indiana >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:45 PM, Trevia W Beverly < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> For Harris Co TX, specifically, Baytown area: >>> http://www.ourbaytown.com/baytownklan.htm >>> >>> Wanda Orton still writes a column in the Baytown Sun, although she lives >>> elsewhere. >>> >>> >>> ~ Trevia >>> Trevia Wooster Beverly >>> Houston, Texas >>> 713-864-6862 >>> Corresponding Secretary, Harris County Historical Commission (1995-) - >>> http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/ >>> Chairman, Advisory Council, Baytown Historical Preservation Assoc. - >>> http://www.baytownhistory.org/ >>> Texas Association of Museums - http://www.prismnet.com/~tam/ >>> American Association of State and Local History (AASLH) - >>> http://about.aaslh.org/home/ >>> Baytown Genealogy Society (Charter/Life Member,1965-) >>> The Bay Area Hertiage Society of Baytown (1985- ) >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Melissa Barker via >>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:17 PM >>> To: [email protected]; Daniel Sample; >>> [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members >>> >>> >>> >>> David, >>> >>> I agree with Cheryl, those types of records are difficult to find. In our >>> archives we do have a blank KKK membership form that we found in an old >>> book >>> that was donated to us, it is quite interesting and has some interesting >>> questions. >>> >>> Melissa Barker >>> Certified Archivist >>> Houston County, TN. Archivist/Records Manager P.O. Box 366 Erin, TN. 37061 >>> Phone: 931-289-4839 >>> E-Mail: [email protected] Facebook Page: >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/190560887647081/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] via >>> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:10 PM >>> To: Daniel Sample ; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members >>> >>> If you find membership rolls to the Klan, you will be doing something >>> rare. >>> The Klan didn't advertise who their members were. It was a secret >>> organization and they would be killed if any member told of the membership >>> or betrayed the Klan. You have to realize that Judges, sheriffs, and people >>> from all walks of life could be members. >>> There are some Klans active today but at least I don't hear much about >>> them. >>> >>> They still go after blacks. And in Meade County, Kentucky someone >>> destroyed >>> some political ad signs, which was the work of some kids, or was Klan >>> related activity. >>> >>> They came to our town a number of years ago and the response to that an >>> organization was formed, "Community Unity", which helps people understand >>> each other, their races, and learn of the people of the world, etc. A >>> great >>> thing happened as a result of the Klan trying to recruit here. >>> >>> I know this doesn't answer your question, but I hope the information helps. >>> Cheryl Proctor >>> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 31, 2014 4:28 PM, Daniel Sample via >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I received a question today regarding if it is possible to determine if >>> someone was in the Klan or not. According to family lore, his gr gr great >>> grandfather (or possibly one of his sons) was a slave owner who fathered >>> children with one of his slaves. >>> >>> This person went on to join the Klan during its resurgence during the >>> 1920's. He has a photograph of Klansmen during this time period on horses >>> and one looks very much like other photographs of this ancestor. >>> >>> Just curious if there are any membership rolls available along with any >>> other sources of information. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Daniel Sample >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >>> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >>> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >>> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >>> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >>> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >>> professional level work. 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Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:04:23 -0600 (CST) > From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" > <[email protected]> > Subject: [TGF] Fwd: Re: 2015 educational scholarships > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > second try - For some reason this did not go through first time. > > d > > >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" >> <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Date: November 6, 2014 at 8:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [TGF] 2015 educational scholarships >> >> Reminder that tomorrow is the last day applications will be accepted. >> >> best regards, >> >> Dee Dee King >> >>> On November 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM [email protected] wrote: >> >> The application form for two types of educational scholarships is up at: >> http://www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/GivingBack.html >> >> Several educational scholarships will be available in 2015 for professional >> genealogists and those emerging in the field. Forensic Genealogy Services LLC >> has been providing scholarships to the professional genealogical community >> since >> 2010. In 2015, scholarships will be available for: >> >> Two general education scholarships to members of the Transitional >> Genealogists >> list. The scholarship will provide a partial reimbursement to attend >> career-building resources that are new for the applicant - first APG PMC, >> first >> IGHR, etc. >> >> Two scholarships for partial reimbursement for the 2015 Forensic Genealogy >> Institute (FGI). >> >> The window for applications for those two categories is November 1-7, 2014 > > > -- > Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 > Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch > > Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 > Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 > www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist > > Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification > of Genealogists?, conferred to > associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with > peer-reviewed evaluations every > five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark > Office. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:31:42 -0800 > From: Leslie Lawson <[email protected]> > Subject: [TGF] CAFG Announces Scholarship Covering 50% of Tuition to > the 2015 Forensic Genealogy Institute > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > /FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE/ -- Dallas, Texas -- November 6, 2014 -- The > Council for the Advancement of Forensic Genealogy (CAFG) is now > accepting applications for a $225 scholarship to the 4th Annual Forensic > Genealogy Institute (FGI), to be held March 26-28, 2015, at the Wyndham > Love Field Hotel in Dallas, Texas. > > Please see the full press release and links here: > http://www.forensicgenealogists.org/institute/cafg-announces-scholarship/ > > -- > Leslie Brinkley Lawson > Forensic Genealogist > 5180 SW 198th Ave., Aloha, OR 97078-2964 > 503-649-6679 or 503-848-3614 fax > Lawson Research Services, LLC; http://www.lawsonresearch.net > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/LawsonResearch > Twitter: @llawson3967 > Member: President CAFG; APG, Oregon Chapter; GSG; NGS > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of TRANSITIONAL-GENEALOGISTS-FORUM Digest, Vol 8, Issue 340 > ***************************************************************

/FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE/ -- Dallas, Texas -- November 6, 2014 -- The Council for the Advancement of Forensic Genealogy (CAFG) is now accepting applications for a $225 scholarship to the 4th Annual Forensic Genealogy Institute (FGI), to be held March 26-28, 2015, at the Wyndham Love Field Hotel in Dallas, Texas. Please see the full press release and links here: http://www.forensicgenealogists.org/institute/cafg-announces-scholarship/ -- Leslie Brinkley Lawson Forensic Genealogist 5180 SW 198th Ave., Aloha, OR 97078-2964 503-649-6679 or 503-848-3614 fax Lawson Research Services, LLC; http://www.lawsonresearch.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/LawsonResearch Twitter: @llawson3967 Member: President CAFG; APG, Oregon Chapter; GSG; NGS

second try - For some reason this did not go through first time. d > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist" > <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Date: November 6, 2014 at 8:35 AM > Subject: Re: [TGF] 2015 educational scholarships > > Reminder that tomorrow is the last day applications will be accepted. > > best regards, > > Dee Dee King > > > On November 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM [email protected] wrote: > > The application form for two types of educational scholarships is up at: > http://www.forensicgenealogyservices.com/GivingBack.html > > Several educational scholarships will be available in 2015 for professional > genealogists and those emerging in the field. Forensic Genealogy Services LLC > has been providing scholarships to the professional genealogical community > since > 2010. In 2015, scholarships will be available for: > > Two general education scholarships to members of the Transitional > Genealogists > list. The scholarship will provide a partial reimbursement to attend > career-building resources that are new for the applicant - first APG PMC, > first > IGHR, etc. > > Two scholarships for partial reimbursement for the 2015 Forensic Genealogy > Institute (FGI). > > The window for applications for those two categories is November 1-7, 2014 > -- Dee Dee King, Certified Genealogist (sm), Certificate 903 Contract Genealogist, US Navy POW/MIA Branch Mail address - PO Box 1085, Manvel TX 77578 Telephone/fax 281-595-3090 www.forensicgenealogyservices.com www.facebook.com/forensicgenealogist Certified Genealogist (CG) is a service mark (sm) of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, conferred to associates who consistently meet ethical and competency standards in accord with peer-reviewed evaluations every five years, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office.

Hi. Yesterday, I was at the archive department of my local university and they had a manuscript collection of local items concerning the KKK. You might try your nearest university library for their archives. Suzanne > On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Daniel Sample via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the replies. > > On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Trevia, >> I read the link. Very interesting. >> It made something come to mind for me. It was asked about membership >> lists, etc. >> There is a way to find out a few names when looking in the indexes to >> Civil and Criminal Records. See if anyone was beaten, tarred and >> feathered, hung, etc. >> >> Anyone who posted bond for the accused may have a connection with the Klan. >> >> Cheryl Proctor >> Southern Indiana >> >> >> On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:45 PM, Trevia W Beverly < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> For Harris Co TX, specifically, Baytown area: >> http://www.ourbaytown.com/baytownklan.htm >> >> Wanda Orton still writes a column in the Baytown Sun, although she lives >> elsewhere. >> >> >> ~ Trevia >> Trevia Wooster Beverly >> Houston, Texas >> 713-864-6862 >> Corresponding Secretary, Harris County Historical Commission (1995-) - >> http://www.historicalcommission.hctx.net/ >> Chairman, Advisory Council, Baytown Historical Preservation Assoc. - >> http://www.baytownhistory.org/ >> Texas Association of Museums - http://www.prismnet.com/~tam/ >> American Association of State and Local History (AASLH) - >> http://about.aaslh.org/home/ >> Baytown Genealogy Society (Charter/Life Member,1965-) >> The Bay Area Hertiage Society of Baytown (1985- ) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Melissa Barker via >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:17 PM >> To: [email protected]; Daniel Sample; >> [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members >> >> >> >> David, >> >> I agree with Cheryl, those types of records are difficult to find. In our >> archives we do have a blank KKK membership form that we found in an old >> book >> that was donated to us, it is quite interesting and has some interesting >> questions. >> >> Melissa Barker >> Certified Archivist >> Houston County, TN. Archivist/Records Manager P.O. Box 366 Erin, TN. 37061 >> Phone: 931-289-4839 >> E-Mail: [email protected] Facebook Page: >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/190560887647081/ >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] via >> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:10 PM >> To: Daniel Sample ; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [TGF] Finding KKK members >> >> If you find membership rolls to the Klan, you will be doing something >> rare. >> The Klan didn't advertise who their members were. It was a secret >> organization and they would be killed if any member told of the membership >> or betrayed the Klan. You have to realize that Judges, sheriffs, and people >> from all walks of life could be members. >> There are some Klans active today but at least I don't hear much about >> them. >> >> They still go after blacks. And in Meade County, Kentucky someone >> destroyed >> some political ad signs, which was the work of some kids, or was Klan >> related activity. >> >> They came to our town a number of years ago and the response to that an >> organization was formed, "Community Unity", which helps people understand >> each other, their races, and learn of the people of the world, etc. A >> great >> thing happened as a result of the Klan trying to recruit here. >> >> I know this doesn't answer your question, but I hope the information helps. >> Cheryl Proctor >> >> >> >> On Friday, October 31, 2014 4:28 PM, Daniel Sample via >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I received a question today regarding if it is possible to determine if >> someone was in the Klan or not. According to family lore, his gr gr great >> grandfather (or possibly one of his sons) was a slave owner who fathered >> children with one of his slaves. >> >> This person went on to join the Klan during its resurgence during the >> 1920's. He has a photograph of Klansmen during this time period on horses >> and one looks very much like other photographs of this ancestor. >> >> Just curious if there are any membership rolls available along with any >> other sources of information. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Daniel Sample >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. Please respect the kind intentions of this list. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> The Transitional Genealogists List was created to provide a supportive >> environment for genealogists to learn best practices as they transition to >> professional level work. 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