Thank you, Ann, for your guidance concerning this issue. Now I know how to handle the citations for the approved pension applications (yes, they do have both application and certificate numbers). I still need to find out if all unapproved applications would be filed under “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” , or if there was another designation for applications for which the applicant didn't submit all necessary information. Thanks again, Cindy Kennedy ________________________________ From: Ann Gillespie <[email protected]> To: Cynthia Kennedy <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] First Reference Note for Civil War Pension Applications (Union): "Approved" or "Rejected" Cindy, If a Union pension file has both an application number and a certificate number, it was approved. If it only has an application number, it was not approved. That doesn't mean that it was rejected, per se, since in a number of cases the applicant never submitted all of the information necessary for the application to be considered. Ann Gillespie http://anngillespieresearch.com/ On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Cynthia Kennedy via <[email protected]> wrote: > >I need help with an issue concerning citations for Civil >War Pension application files (Union). I >have studied 11.40 (page 603-604 in EE), as well as this information from NARA http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/015.html#15.7.3 > >Most of the pension application files that I have ordered >from NARA show that the men did receive a pension. I have two files for >men who did not receive a pension. Both of these files contain statements that >the application was submitted for rejection. > >My question is about the wording in the examples for the >first reference notes on page 604 in EE, “Case Files of Approved Pension >Applications…” and “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” Maybe the answer to this question is obvious, >but since I did not receive documentation from NARA concerning in which of the >above groups (approved or rejected) the files that I ordered are located at >NARA, should I include the phrases “Case Files of Approved Pension Applications…” >or “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” based on my reading of the files? I hesitate to do this, without documentation. > >How else would I know the classification of >these pension application files? I have >also checked indexes on Fold3 and Ancestry, but did not find anything there, >either, about approved and rejected files. > >Any assistance would be much appreciated. > >Cindy Kennedy > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cindy, If a Union pension file has both an application number and a certificate number, it was approved. If it only has an application number, it was not approved. That doesn't mean that it was rejected, per se, since in a number of cases the applicant never submitted all of the information necessary for the application to be considered. Ann Gillespie http://anngillespieresearch.com/ <http://anngillespieresearch.weebly.com/> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Cynthia Kennedy via < [email protected]> wrote: > > > I need help with an issue concerning citations for Civil > War Pension application files (Union). I > have studied 11.40 (page 603-604 in EE), as well as this information from > NARA > http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/015.html#15.7.3 > > Most of the pension application files that I have ordered > from NARA show that the men did receive a pension. I have two files for > men who did not receive a pension. Both of these files contain statements > that > the application was submitted for rejection. > > My question is about the wording in the examples for the > first reference notes on page 604 in EE, “Case Files of Approved Pension > Applications…” and “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” Maybe > the answer to this question is obvious, > but since I did not receive documentation from NARA concerning in which of > the > above groups (approved or rejected) the files that I ordered are located at > NARA, should I include the phrases “Case Files of Approved Pension > Applications…” > or “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” based on my reading of > the files? I hesitate to do this, without documentation. > > How else would I know the classification of > these pension application files? I have > also checked indexes on Fold3 and Ancestry, but did not find anything > there, > either, about approved and rejected files. > > Any assistance would be much appreciated. > > Cindy Kennedy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need help with an issue concerning citations for Civil War Pension application files (Union). I have studied 11.40 (page 603-604 in EE), as well as this information from NARA http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/015.html#15.7.3 Most of the pension application files that I have ordered from NARA show that the men did receive a pension. I have two files for men who did not receive a pension. Both of these files contain statements that the application was submitted for rejection. My question is about the wording in the examples for the first reference notes on page 604 in EE, “Case Files of Approved Pension Applications…” and “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” Maybe the answer to this question is obvious, but since I did not receive documentation from NARA concerning in which of the above groups (approved or rejected) the files that I ordered are located at NARA, should I include the phrases “Case Files of Approved Pension Applications…” or “Case Files of Rejected Pension Applications…” based on my reading of the files? I hesitate to do this, without documentation. How else would I know the classification of these pension application files? I have also checked indexes on Fold3 and Ancestry, but did not find anything there, either, about approved and rejected files. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Cindy Kennedy

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My apologies everybody. Somehow when I typed “TSC” into my “to” line, Outlook decided I meant to type TGF. Please ignore! Elizabeth From: eshown [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:52 PM To: TGF ([email protected]) Subject: RE: [TSC-public] Never Married Luther wrote: >but it is the third that I think you are referring to here: a claim of the non-existence of something. I cannot seem to find a term for that in our lexicon or any other I have looked at. Luther, it seems to me that what we have here is an assertion that directly addresses an issue—be it rightly or wrongly. As such, it would be direct evidence for that issue, no? Elizabeth

Luther wrote: >but it is the third that I think you are referring to here: a claim of the non-existence of something. I cannot seem to find a term for that in our lexicon or any other I have looked at. Luther, it seems to me that what we have here is an assertion that directly addresses an issue—be it rightly or wrongly. As such, it would be direct evidence for that issue, no? Elizabeth From: TSC-public [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Luther Tychonievich Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:57 AM To: Justin York Cc: tsc-public Subject: Re: [TSC-public] Never Married It is important to distinguish between negative claims, negative search, and negative evidence Two of these are in the lexicon-EG's current lexicon: * http://fhiso.org/lexeg/lexicon-snapshot/#negative%20evidence.md * http://fhiso.org/lexeg/lexicon-snapshot/#negative%20search.md … but it is the third that I think you are referring to here: a claim of the non-existence of something. I cannot seem to find a term for that in our lexicon or any other I have looked at. An indirect definition can be found in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Proving_a_negative and I tried to define it in the "Negative" entry of http://fhiso.org/files/cfp/cfps74.pdf I have encountered many sources that claim someone did not do something, including "single-never married" or "spinster" or "bachelor" status on documents, as well as claims such as "childless", "never visited another country", "never served in the military", and even "was not counted in the census" in journals, letters, obituaries, and the like. I would like to be able to represent all of these negative claims as data, and preferably all in a similar way. Can the _STAT solution (or the like) from GEDCOM L handle these other kinds of negative claims? ​

For those of you with British royalty/aristocracy experience: When Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, and Magna Carta Ancestors by Douglas Richardson, are in conflict about the lineage of an early Colonial immigrant, would they be considered authorities of equal weight, or would one be given preference over the other? And what would be your next step? Many thanks. Jillaine Smith

Good evening and Happy Thanksgiving to All I just read a very interesting article published in a respected genealogy publication but my question has to do with the authors use of the phrase "graduate of IGHR". Can someone help me with what that means? I have attended 4 sessions there. Does that qualify me to be a graduate? Douglas Burnett Satellite Beach FL

Doug wrote: >I just read a very interesting article published in a respected genealogy publication but my question has to do with the authors use of the phrase "graduate of IGHR". Can someone help me with what that means? I have attended 4 sessions there. Does that qualify me to be a graduate? Doug, after 35 years at IGHR, I would not say I was a graduate of IGHR. If we go to the simplest of dictionaries (Dictionary.com), we find this: graduate [n., adj. graj-oo-it, -eyt; v. graj-oo-eyt] noun 1. a person who has received a degree or diploma on completing a course of study, as in a university, college, or school. 2. a student who holds the bachelor's or the first professional degree and is studying for an advanced degree. Samford students receive a certificate of completion to attest that they attended a particular class. They don't receive a degree or a diploma. Elizabeth ---------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG www.HistoricPathways.com www.EvidenceExplained.com & for tips on records and record usage: QuickTips at www.EvidenceExplained.com/blogs/ee

Charles, The 1911 edition of "A Calendar of Delaware Wills New Castle County 1682-1800" is available on archive.org at https://archive.org/stream/acalendardelawa00commgoog#page/n8/mode/2up if that helps. Juliann Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 23:11:55 -0500 From: Charles Purvis <[email protected]> Is there someone on this list with access to this document that would send me an image or PDF of page 30. "A Calendar of Delaware Wills New Castle County 1682-1800", Abstracted and Compiled by The Historical Research Committee of the Colonial Dames of Delaware, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1969, *Page 30. WILL of Mary REES, widow of William. Apr. 30, 1734. May 10, 1734. *

Both the Calendar and the Will Books themselves are uploaded at Ancestry.com, which has a free trial period during which you can access the documents. It is not ethical for a subscriber to send you copies from the site. See Judy G. Russell's discussion of this issue, here: http://www.legalgenealogist.com/blog/2014/11/05/it-bears-repeating-just-say- no/ You might find another uploaded copy of the Calendar by a search on Worldcat, although it is still copyright-protected. Good hunting, Judy **************************************************************************** * Charles Purvis writes: Is there someone on this list with access to this document that would send me an image or PDF of page 30. "A Calendar of Delaware Wills New Castle County 1682-1800", Abstracted and Compiled by The Historical Research Committee of the Colonial Dames of Delaware, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1969, *Page 30. WILL of Mary REES, widow of William. Apr. 30, 1734. May 10, 1734.

Charles, This book is on Ancestry.com, and also available through FamilySearch's digitized collection of family history books. The direct link to the latter is https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE82664&from=fhd. If the direct link doesn't work, go to familysearch.org>Search>Books, and search for "New Castle Wills". Chris Staats On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Charles Purvis via < [email protected]> wrote: > > > Is there someone on this list with access to this document that would > send me an image or PDF of page 30. > > "A Calendar of Delaware Wills New Castle County 1682-1800", > Abstracted and Compiled by The Historical Research Committee of the > Colonial Dames of Delaware, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1969, > *Page 30. WILL of Mary REES, widow of William. Apr. 30, 1734. May 10, 1734. > > * > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is there someone on this list with access to this document that would send me an image or PDF of page 30. "A Calendar of Delaware Wills New Castle County 1682-1800", Abstracted and Compiled by The Historical Research Committee of the Colonial Dames of Delaware, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1969, *Page 30. WILL of Mary REES, widow of William. Apr. 30, 1734. May 10, 1734. *

A reminder was sent out by Marie V. Melchiori via BKLYN Rootsweb (Brooklyn Rootsweb) and thought this would be good to pass on to APG and Transistional list for those that may not have seen this. I am unable to view the webinar and it won't be recorded so I hope that someone who does will share thoughts or notes. *Records Found” Case Studies* A bi-monthly “teaching with documents” webinar presenting selected documents from among those processed by the USCIS Genealogy Program or found among agency records at the National Archives or online. Professional genealogists, genealogical writers and educators. *Date/Time* *Friday, November 21, 2014 1:00 PM (Eastern) * Join this LIVE web meeting/webinar with US Citizenship and Immigration Service’s Marian Smith to learn how to identify immigrants whose 1906-1921 arrival records were filed separately from traditional passenger manifest records. *Back-Dated Arrival Records: Nunc Pro Tunc (“Now for Then”) Examinations at Ellis Island, 1911-1921* After 1911, many immigrants living in the New York City area found they could not naturalize and become US citizens because there was no record of their lawful admission to the United States. Almost all of these immigrants arrived after ca. 1905 and before 1921. Most arrived as young men, and as seamen, at a variety of US ports of entry. This presentation will focus on official arrival records created for those immigrants when they later visited Ellis Island for belated examination under US immigration law. Those records supported the immigrants' eventual naturalization petitions claiming arrival on ships where their names cannot be found on the passenger manifest. *The presentation is not recorded*. Link to site: http://www.uscis.gov/HGWebinars

Thanks for all the responses regarding copywright. They all gave me new things to consider. Kathie Fortner On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > If you know any instructor in a college level environment, especially > English or History dept, they have specialized software that looks for > existing copies of documents or portions thereof submitted by students. The > purpose is checking for plagiarism. You might be able to get some help from > some one like that. > Douglas Burnett > > In a message dated 11/19/2014 10:22:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I have a four page typewritten essay that I picked up in a used book > store. It has the author's name but no date. It is mainly about changing > customs. For example an oil lamp being a new invention. And people taking > off their shoes and walking to town and then putting them back on as shoes > were scarce. So it is talking about the early 1800's in Ontario, Canada. > For the most part no names of people are mentioned and a generic name like > Mrs. Smith could be substituted with no loss of coherence. > > Because it is typewritten is it correct to assume a copywright exists? I'm > guessing the author is no longer living. Would I need to find who is the > heir to her estate and get permission to post online? My only reason would > be that it is an interesting document that I would like to share, I have no > desire to make any money. > > Any thoughts? > > -- > > *Kathie Fortner* > > *[email protected] <[email protected]>* > > *www.fortner.50megs.com <http://www.fortner.50megs.com>* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- *Kathie Fortner* *[email protected] <[email protected]>* *www.fortner.50megs.com <http://www.fortner.50megs.com>*

If you know any instructor in a college level environment, especially English or History dept, they have specialized software that looks for existing copies of documents or portions thereof submitted by students. The purpose is checking for plagiarism. You might be able to get some help from some one like that. Douglas Burnett In a message dated 11/19/2014 10:22:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have a four page typewritten essay that I picked up in a used book store. It has the author's name but no date. It is mainly about changing customs. For example an oil lamp being a new invention. And people taking off their shoes and walking to town and then putting them back on as shoes were scarce. So it is talking about the early 1800's in Ontario, Canada. For the most part no names of people are mentioned and a generic name like Mrs. Smith could be substituted with no loss of coherence. Because it is typewritten is it correct to assume a copywright exists? I'm guessing the author is no longer living. Would I need to find who is the heir to her estate and get permission to post online? My only reason would be that it is an interesting document that I would like to share, I have no desire to make any money. Any thoughts? -- *Kathie Fortner* *[email protected] <[email protected]>* *www.fortner.50megs.com <http://www.fortner.50megs.com>* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As part of its genealogical education mission, the Minnesota Genealogical Society publishes a quarterly journal, Minnesota Genealogist. We welcome a variety of articles, including research reports, teaching articles, and family history memoirs. Minnesota Genealogist is not a peer-reviewed journal, but editors do work with authors to help them improve their writing. We are now welcoming submissions for our 2015 issues. For more information, you can read about our writers' guidelines and tips for authors at http://www.mngs.org/cpage.php?pt=41. If you'd like to pitch an idea for an article, feel free to get in touch. J. H. ("Jay") Fonkert, CG Managing Editor Minnesota Genealogist "CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations. Certificate No. 965, issued 11 May 2012, expires 11 May 2017.

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I can't answer the legal copyright parts of the question, but I would wonder about the origins of the typewritten pages. Where they someone's original writing, or did the person who typed them borrow or transcribe from some other document? J. H. ("Jay") Fonkert, CG Roseville, MN 55113 651-735-8630 [email protected] "CG" & "Certified Genealogist" are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, and are used by authorized associates following periodic, peer-reviewed competency evaluations. Certificate No. 965, issued 11 May 2012, expires 11 May 2017. -----Original Message----- From: Kathie Fortner via <[email protected]> To: TGF List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Nov 19, 2014 9:22 am Subject: [TGF] Copywright I have a four page typewritten essay that I picked up in a used book store. It has the author's name but no date. It is mainly about changing customs. For example an oil lamp being a new invention. And people taking off their shoes and walking to town and then putting them back on as shoes were scarce. So it is talking about the early 1800's in Ontario, Canada. For the most part no names of people are mentioned and a generic name like Mrs. Smith could be substituted with no loss of coherence. Because it is typewritten is it correct to assume a copywright exists? I'm guessing the author is no longer living. Would I need to find who is the heir to her estate and get permission to post online? My only reason would be that it is an interesting document that I would like to share, I have no desire to make any money. Any thoughts? -- *Kathie Fortner* *[email protected] <[email protected]>* *www.fortner.50megs.com <http://www.fortner.50megs.com>* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message